The Syndicate

i just didn't even care to change accounts whooops

Fratyo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:14 am My entire experience on this site is Donald Glover walking into the room with pizza boxes and everything is on fire

Come play with us.

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:37 am Oh lol my other head suspects Fractyo.

. . .

Question for those that played Courage (my other head included, maybe): do you see similarities between Fratyo’s behavior here and Fractal’s play there especially re: behavior around the end of day? I’m not made up one way or another.

It’s also worth noting that sprit was scum in Retro with me so people from that game should remember that performance in evaluating the hydra.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:14 am My entire experience on this site is Donald Glover walking into the room with pizza boxes and everything is on fire

Welcome to this site. We like pizza, and we like to burn it.

Yikes, guys. This is what happens when dunya dies, and the mafia know it. We can't let them win just by thwarting discussion. I know I am as guilty as anyone else of quietness so I will post reads a bit later when I have time but in the meantime please talk people, jesus

Lunatella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:08 pm Yikes, guys. This is what happens when dunya dies, and the mafia know it. We can't let them win just by thwarting discussion. I know I am as guilty as anyone else of quietness so I will post reads a bit later when I have time but in the meantime please talk people, jesus

This feel like a "salutations, fellow townies" kind of post to anyone else? just me? k.

I agree with my other head for now.

[VOTE: LUNATELLA] aubergine

Well...

Cuphead and his pal Mugman
Are on vacation now
They regret to say
It's hard to play
When the fun times won't allow

Won't allow!

They're keeping up as best they can
So to make an informed vote
But the commentary
Won't be visionary

And...

They're just trying to stay afloat!

I have to admit I have not followed this game really at all since I said the thing about fucking spiders. Someone point at something to sink my teeth into and I'll try to do a thing with the finding bad guys and stuff

M Plus 1
The Dry Flood
Cuphead and Mugman
Galactic Mac
Rimworld Boyz
Fratyo

Lunatella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:16 am M Plus 1
The Dry Flood
Cuphead and Mugman
Galactic Mac
Rimworld Boyz
Fratyo

Cute

But where in your logic will this fit

Where in any logic would I kill dunya. I was prepared for an embittered game of trying figure out if they were bad or not but the mafia just made my job 10x easier

I’m starting to abhor rainbow lists as well conceptually. I can guarantee scum between rimworld boyz/lunatella/colinspeed. The last being left out of your rainbow list for whatever reason

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:54 pm I agree with my other head for now.

[VOTE: LUNATELLA] aubergine

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:34 am

Lunatella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:16 am M Plus 1
The Dry Flood
Cuphead and Mugman
Galactic Mac
Rimworld Boyz
Fratyo
ColinIsSpeed

Cute

But where in your logic will this fit

Where in any logic would I kill dunya. I was prepared for an embittered game of trying figure out if they were bad or not but the mafia just made my job 10x easier

I’m starting to abhor rainbow lists as well conceptually. I can guarantee scum between rimworld boyz/lunatella/colinspeed. The last being left out of your rainbow list for whatever reason

Oops, fixed it.

Lunatella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:16 am M Plus 1
The Dry Flood
Cuphead and Mugman
Galactic Mac
Rimworld Boyz
Fratyo

talk to me about fratyo

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:18 am

Lunatella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:16 am M Plus 1
The Dry Flood
Cuphead and Mugman
Galactic Mac
Rimworld Boyz
Fratyo

talk to me about fratyo

I can't shake the bad feeling from this post. I wouldn't jump to calling it a scum-slip, but the way Fratyo responded to the accusations definitely looks shady.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:56 pm wagons are far too small for my liking considering there are 3 scum..

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:01 pm

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:59 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:56 pm wagons are far too small for my liking considering there are 3 scum..

where did the third come from?

oh shit.. sorry. Ignore that.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:01 pm

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:00 pm This lynch is bad and you should all feel had.

Don’t look past fratyo’s mistake about the scum total, by the way. That could be a calculated “slip”.

Yes, just ignore it. Could be a mistake, could be a "slip". See it as NAI

hey isn't a lynch happening in like an hour

because only one player has voted and that seems less than ideal

Galactic Mac wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:11 am I have to admit I have not followed this game really at all since I said the thing about fucking spiders. Someone point at something to sink my teeth into and I'll try to do a thing with the finding bad guys and stuff

This looks like an admission of guilt to me.

iso'd fracto and i think he's town, his efforts in scum hunting seem earnest and i left the experience feeling warm inside. if they're mafia then they're doing a very good job of seeming like they aren't.

where are you guys? day ends in like an hour and 5 minutes, are all of you in bed playing octopath traveler too?

hi my name's quin and i don't know how to read numbers or tell time it's a great burger

burden*

everything about MP1's early rainbow list and the following explainations still fucks me up. esp regarding his ability to read me based on tone. he hasn't demonstrated that in any past games that I remember and I don't feel like the post he cited should have been totally significant, since rambling about bullshit is easier to fake than rambling about game shit. even as a reason for a weak read, to pull that kind of thing out seems weird to me. it seems like doing work for the sake of doing work rather than doing work for the sake of getting results.

MP is town Quintucky. Accept it and lynch the mafia.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:40 pm MP is town Quintucky. Accept it and lynch the mafia.

what makes you trust mp?

My head tells me a scumteam that includes Lunatella probably wouldn't n1 kill the hydra that's gonna hard defend them if they were alive today. But I know NK analysis is a risky path to tread. Still kinda wanna give them a day more just for that even though I don't get a great feel from them apart from the NK stuff + 2Dogs townread.

Still wouldn't kill m1 mostly based on our mindmeld reaction on Luna's question d1.

My other head got a gut scumread on Rimworld, don't think he voiced it in the thread, so thought I should. Personally I don't hate the way they're focused on m1's handling on them d1 (Kyle toneread stuff). I can buy that he's genuinely irked by that read and keeps harping on it. Not a strong read though.

If I got to choose who to lynch it'd still be Mac for me. That post last EoD is still the strongest scum-ping i've gotten this game, and I haven't seen anything towny from there otherwise. I buy their reason (at least Daisy's moving stuff) but regardless of that I think it's the best lynch from my PoV.

I could potentially be convinced on Colin or something, since that slot's been kinda meh while both of the players in that hydra was opinionated/pushing townplayers in the last game (this game i admit has been a bit more stale overall so it could influence it)

But for now [VOTE: Galactic Mac] aubergine

I wouldn’t vote MP1 or lunatella or Cup/mug.

[VOTE: Fratyo] aubergine

I continue to think galactic Mac is a cop out vote.

I really dislike their read on lunatella. There’s plenty in that iso to read as town. It reeks of courage Luna.

I can’t help but feel that fratyo is bad. Especially since I think the baddies are likely two of them, rimworld and Colin.

So here’s the thing. I actually really disliked fratyos vote for rimworld boyz... that was even before the cfd. It felt like a safe bus because rimworld could still move to voting drsloogy. It came without justification. That vote alone felt bad. The cfd that took rimworld out of the discussion only added to that feeling. Nothing in fratyos motivations towards the end of that day made sense to me. It all felt nanufactured.

Also I hate that ‘townslip’. If you’re town and you think there’s three baddies you’d be reminding people it’s MYLO already and that we can’t afford to make a mistake. There’d be greater urgency.

The momentum of this game is somewhat hampered by ninja and boomslang's wedding, you can tell, what with at least 4 people going and another 2 hosting some of them on their travels. We're likely in for a couple of quiet phased.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:10 pm [VOTE: Fratyo] aubergine

I continue to think galactic Mac is a cop out vote.

I really dislike their read on lunatella. There’s plenty in that iso to read as town. It reeks of courage Luna.

I can’t help but feel that fratyo is bad. Especially since I think the baddies are likely two of them, rimworld and Colin.

So here’s the thing. I actually really disliked fratyos vote for rimworld boyz... that was even before the cfd. It felt like a safe bus because rimworld could still move to voting drsloogy. It came without justification. That vote alone felt bad. The cfd that took rimworld out of the discussion only added to that feeling. Nothing in fratyos motivations towards the end of that day made sense to me. It all felt nanufactured.

This game has seriously inducted me into the Golden-mindmelding club.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:14 pm Also I hate that ‘townslip’. If you’re town and you think there’s three baddies you’d be reminding people it’s MYLO already and that we can’t afford to make a mistake. There’d be greater urgency.

Did you confuse which gameday i made the mistake, or how would 7-3 be mylo?

Re the Luna thing: I really disagree with you there. I might be a little biased since everything looks so much more obvious-town when you're scum and know who the towns are like i was that game, but still i think there's been a pretty clear difference, even if she is town here.

Re Mac being a cop-out: So you have a townread there or..? Or would it look like a cop-out to you even if Mac is scum, just because it's an easy vote to make?

to the head of Lunatella that's here whoever it is, do you think Luna (potentially you) has played a similar game to the courage game thus far?

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:52 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:14 pm Also I hate that ‘townslip’. If you’re town and you think there’s three baddies you’d be reminding people it’s MYLO already and that we can’t afford to make a mistake. There’d be greater urgency.

Did you confuse which gameday i made the mistake, or how would 7-3 be mylo?

Re the Luna thing: I really disagree with you there. I might be a little biased since everything looks so much more obvious-town when you're scum and know who the towns are like i was that game, but still i think there's been a pretty clear difference, even if she is town here.

Re Mac being a cop-out: So you have a townread there or..? Or would it look like a cop-out to you even if Mac is scum, just because it's an easy vote to make?

OK, that's fine then, re the slip.

I don't think there's anything to read Daisy or Mac bad on. I don't think you've really indicated anything that looks bad. Mac isn't engaged - there's a chance that means he's bad but I find it much more likely he would be disengaged as town than bad. Daisy is travelling (note MPs absence as well). It's just a bad call altogether.

What's more it's like you suspect others more but you are 'giving them a day' in favour of that vote.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:00 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:52 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:14 pm Also I hate that ‘townslip’. If you’re town and you think there’s three baddies you’d be reminding people it’s MYLO already and that we can’t afford to make a mistake. There’d be greater urgency.

Did you confuse which gameday i made the mistake, or how would 7-3 be mylo?

Re the Luna thing: I really disagree with you there. I might be a little biased since everything looks so much more obvious-town when you're scum and know who the towns are like i was that game, but still i think there's been a pretty clear difference, even if she is town here.

Re Mac being a cop-out: So you have a townread there or..? Or would it look like a cop-out to you even if Mac is scum, just because it's an easy vote to make?

OK, that's fine then, re the slip.

I don't think there's anything to read Daisy or Mac bad on. I don't think you've really indicated anything that looks bad. Mac isn't engaged - there's a chance that means he's bad but I find it much more likely he would be disengaged as town than bad. Daisy is travelling (note MPs absence as well). It's just a bad call altogether.

What's more it's like you suspect others more but you are 'giving them a day' in favour of that vote.

I agree what i've pointed out isn't like super "objectively scummy", but i really got a scum gut feel from the pop-in post daisy made at EoD, and didn't really like her reaction trying to call mine + 2Dogs suspicions of it as wording problems, when both of us im pretty sure got the core of her message. My top suspicion is definetly there or i wouldn't have voted them, I'm "giving Luna a day" for the NK stuff BECAUSE i think it makes them look more towny, not just "because why not" like you're phrasing it here.

honestly i don't think your tunnel on me feels very genuine, reminds me slightly of your forced T.H push last game, even if not as intense. Are you really evaluating me?

If it's a genuine read on Daisy's posts, its wrong.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:05 pm honestly i don't think your tunnel on me feels very genuine, reminds me slightly of your forced T.H push last game, even if not as intense. Are you really evaluating me?

Yeah, I'm very happy with my vote.

Fractal knows full well that I fully believed TH was Ramses.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:06 pm If it's a genuine read on Daisy's posts, its wrong.

Not sure how to respond to this

linki: honestly i'd forgotten that, but reagrdless of that you pushed that he was scum, not ramses, so it's pretty irrelevant

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:09 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:06 pm If it's a genuine read on Daisy's posts, its wrong.

Not sure how to respond to this

linki: honestly i'd forgotten that, but reagrdless of that you pushed that he was scum, not ramses, so it's pretty irrelevant

Daisy's behaviour is on her town meta, those posts particularly. When she's pressured and busy and has to respond,t hose posts are very town. If anyone's behaviour is more concerning, it's Macs.

You are knotting yourself in knots. You said that my read on you is lacking analysis, like my TH read in the other game. It's not irrelevant, because my TH read wasn't lacking analysis, even if I was falsely pushing him as scum. Perhaps you did 'forget it', but you're the one who chose to use that as a reason to cast doubt on me.

Townies look for genuine patterns, they feel with their guts that something feels the same to them as it did another time. Your assessment of me in that moment lacks that emotional honesty. It could be honest, in the sense that you weren't town that game so had no reason to grab an emotional read on me.

But I don't think it is. Just looks like a reason to give others doubt about my read to me.

If you're bad, it sort of sucks that you got two bad cards in a row. If you're town and I'm wrong, I know part of it will be that I haven't seen your town game. But I'm feeling pretty good about it. Your pushes and votes all feel calculated to me, every single one.

I didnt say it lacked analysis. I just said it felt forced, in the way that you lined up stuff you didnt like, with an agenda in mind rather than actually thinking about my actions with both a town and a scum perspective in mind. I might be wrong but thats what i meant

sorry, posted from phone, didn't realize it wasn't logged onto the right account. voting lunatella now for self-press

can i get a summary of the deal on fractal plz

was the player who moved their vote from spacemac to lunatella without posting just now fratyo or colinisspeed?

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:45 pm can i get a summary of the deal on fractal plz

-lunatella thinks my reaction to my "how many scum in the game" was poor
-Golden thinks my pushes have felt calculated

you can basically just skim this page looking for my name, think most of the suspicion on me is voiced here

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:46 pm was the player who moved their vote from spacemac to lunatella without posting just now fratyo or colinisspeed?

was me, for selfpress mainly, but wouldn't exactly hate the lynch either. Just would prefer Mac if i could get it

and i did post about it, just not the vote-tags

ah okay. so it's not as shady as I thought