The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:56 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:36 pm Alright champs game over time to fuck

Well ffuck

You aren't coming with me?

Oh baby

*claims voyeur*

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:25 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:09 pm @speedchuck you have played a lot with Owner? If yes, have you seen anything hinky out of her so far?

Owner is usually a big question mark for me, and she still is. Her hunting style is weird. She suspects people for the gifs they use, their avatar changes, and the jokes they make.

It always comes off as nonsense to people that haven't played with her, and often develops into a scumread.

That said, I don't know the difference between town and scum Owner, so I'm not defending her with this either. Just giving context.

Gotcha. I appreciate the context.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:16 pm
What does scum indiglo look like?

Almost as sexy as town indiglo.

If indiglo is scum here I would be so mindblown lol

[mention] MacDougall[/mention] did you win the champs game? Looking forward to hearing your input.

Ok, so might be seeing Owner's town game. Interesting. Which means it might be time to look elsewhere.

If I get real paranoid and tin foil, I ask myself how totally out of the loop and not caught up Kyle got lucky by voting Soneji, helping secure the mafia lynch Day 1.

Worth considering that the Daisy/Sloon wagon may have been a mafia lynch too. So Kyle was maybe safe either way, maybe he's mafia and knew that, or maybe he's town and had no idea and genuinely guessed right.

EBWOP: This evening I want to take a closer look at Long Con too.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:37 pm furry zombie

My favorite kind!

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:59 pm @ MacDougall did you win the champs game? Looking forward to hearing your input.

Ok, so might be seeing Owner's town game. Interesting. Which means it might be time to look elsewhere.

If I get real paranoid and tin foil, I ask myself how totally out of the loop and not caught up Kyle got lucky by voting Soneji, helping secure the mafia lynch Day 1.

Worth considering that the Daisy/Sloon wagon may have been a mafia lynch too. So Kyle was maybe safe either way, maybe he's mafia and knew that, or maybe he's town and had no idea and genuinely guessed right.

Thanks for asking. No I was a civilian and the wolves didn't get lynched once. So I am obviously crap.

And the only important metric in the entire world is popularity. So let's move on.

@Epignosis what's your read on Sloonei here?

Don't have one. I haven't read anything since my last post in this and don't intend to do so until tomorrow.

Fair cop.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:14 pm Everyone loved him though - so much love in the MU spectator chat for him.

Ain't nothing grander than that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:31 pm Don't have one. I haven't read anything since my last post in this and don't intend to do so until tomorrow.

You read Mac's question to you.

Bazinga!

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:31 pm Don't have one. I haven't read anything since my last post in this and don't intend to do so until tomorrow.

You read Mac's question to you.

Bazinga!

And what does that mean?

I see no reason not to vote Sloon at this point. Except this, and let me tin foil.

How likely do I think it is that on Day 1, two of the main wagons were on Mafia? (That being Soneji and Sloon - the artist formerly known as Daisy.) Are statistics a good defense? Not necessarily, it's just that it's giving me pause.

Then I think about that in regards to Kyle. How likely do I think it is that 2 of the main wagons AND 1 of the other suspects several folks were talking about (Kyle) are all mafia together?



Then I wonder if there is some bastard element to this game, and I return to drinking my disgusting hard root beer. I purchased it, dammit, and it has alcohol in it.

So I'll go ahead and put another vote on Sloonei, and then sleep on it and see how it feels in the morning.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:07 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:31 pm Don't have one. I haven't read anything since my last post in this and don't intend to do so until tomorrow.

You read Mac's question to you.

Bazinga!

And what does that mean?

You said you hadn't read anything since your last post. I, quite wittily, pointed out that you read Mac's question to you.

Then, in a jovial tone, I said "bazinga", because Big Bang Theory is on TV and I'm drinking.

Then I added a smilie, to indicate such.

Sloonei is a replacement. He should be policy lynched. Replacements are scum more often than they aren't and he hasn't done any town Sloon things anyway. No better lynch here imo.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:16 pm Sloonei is a replacement. He should be policy lynched. Replacements are scum more often than they aren't and he hasn't done any town Sloon things anyway. No better lynch here imo.

I hate to say such a thing, but that thought crossed my mind as well. I feel like hosts generally replace mafias before they replace towns. I mean, we've got BWT and Neverwhere as pretty much total no-shows too... and yet only Daisy got replaced. Imagine you're a host, and you have 3 no-shows and 1 replacement. Town can absorb no-shows better than a mafia team... so you go with mafia no-show first. (At least that's what I think if I put on my Host Hat.)

Also leads me to be less likely to look at BWT and Neverwhere, at least for now.


(Also found nothing helpful on my Long Con ISO.)

Y'all epi replaced in d0, are you saying we should L
lynch him too?

I've seen the whole 'mafia get replaced first' thing on other sites, but not that often here.

Mafia DO request replacement more often than town, though, for whatever reason. Weirdos.

Given that, I think it's more important to look at the reason for replacement. Epi popped in practically before the game started. This is probably an indicator that whoever it was that signed up just didn't show up, or bowed out quickly for RL reasons. (My opinion.) That's null.

Sloonei replaced Daisy, who is busy, sure, but around more. That's more suspicious.

It's also possibly angle-shooting?

I think that falls under the angle-shooting category. Cheap damn way to catch a baddie, I think we should make it one of our understood 'house rules' on Syndicate that we don't bring it up. Believe it in your own mind, no one can stop that, but don't bring it up in the thread.

Speedchuck, are you the kind of guy who busses a teammate, or tries to save?

Only one substantial wagon exists today and it’s on a player slot that hasn’t made any on-topic posts. Y’all are being just as lazy as me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:57 am I think that falls under the angle-shooting category. Cheap damn way to catch a baddie, I think we should make it one of our understood 'house rules' on Syndicate that we don't bring it up. Believe it in your own mind, no one can stop that, but don't bring it up in the thread.

Speedchuck, are you the kind of guy who busses a teammate, or tries to save?

Depends on the situation. I would bus a teammate if they looked doomed. I won't defend a teammate unless there is something really good to defend, or unless there's a good target other than them that I can believably push.

Basically I'll try to save a drowning teammate if there's almost no way it comes back to bite me, I'll bus them if not.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:00 pm Only one substantial wagon exists today and it’s on a player slot that hasn’t made any on-topic posts. Y’all are being just as lazy as me.

Laziness is a distinct possibility. Who is a better option in your mind?



Also, just a heads up, I won't be able to be here at EoD, so any work for me to be a part of will have to happen before then.

indiglo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:49 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:00 pm Only one substantial wagon exists today and it’s on a player slot that hasn’t made any on-topic posts. Y’all are being just as lazy as me.

Laziness is a distinct possibility. Who is a better option in your mind?



Also, just a heads up, I won't be able to be here at EoD, so any work for me to be a part of will have to happen before then.

I have not read anything yet.

Sloonmeister, you must read, Sloonmeister.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:15 pm And the only important metric in the entire world is popularity. So let's move on.

The sadness.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:15 pm And the only important metric in the entire world is popularity. So let's move on.

The sadness.

Correct this to the gladness.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:02 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:15 pm And the only important metric in the entire world is popularity. So let's move on.

The sadness.

Correct this to the gladness.

Madness.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:35 am Y'all epi replaced in d0, are you saying we should L
lynch him too?

Quite possibly actually.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:45 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:57 am I think that falls under the angle-shooting category. Cheap damn way to catch a baddie, I think we should make it one of our understood 'house rules' on Syndicate that we don't bring it up. Believe it in your own mind, no one can stop that, but don't bring it up in the thread.

Speedchuck, are you the kind of guy who busses a teammate, or tries to save?

Depends on the situation. I would bus a teammate if they looked doomed. I won't defend a teammate unless there is something really good to defend, or unless there's a good target other than them that I can believably push.

Basically I'll try to save a drowning teammate if there's almost no way it comes back to bite me, I'll bus them if not.

That conforms to your Soneji stuff on Day 1. What better evidence is out there to lynch someone?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:32 amIt's also possibly angle-shooting?

If so, I've seen that angle-shooting in other games too. It's quite impossible to not take into account when it's known information.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:57 am I think that falls under the angle-shooting category. Cheap damn way to catch a baddie, I think we should make it one of our understood 'house rules' on Syndicate that we don't bring it up. Believe it in your own mind, no one can stop that, but don't bring it up in the thread.

Speedchuck, are you the kind of guy who busses a teammate, or tries to save?

On PerC we have a rule that we don't discuss replacement. You could do that here. *shrug*

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:06 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:45 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:57 am I think that falls under the angle-shooting category. Cheap damn way to catch a baddie, I think we should make it one of our understood 'house rules' on Syndicate that we don't bring it up. Believe it in your own mind, no one can stop that, but don't bring it up in the thread.

Speedchuck, are you the kind of guy who busses a teammate, or tries to save?

Depends on the situation. I would bus a teammate if they looked doomed. I won't defend a teammate unless there is something really good to defend, or unless there's a good target other than them that I can believably push.

Basically I'll try to save a drowning teammate if there's almost no way it comes back to bite me, I'll bus them if not.

That conforms to your Soneji stuff on Day 1. What better evidence is out there to lynch someone?

Talking about D1? There wasn't much.

Is it fair to say that there is an alarming lack of scum hunting this game? Is that normal? Cause I don't think it's normal?

Soneji voted Kyle to a three way tie between him, Daisy and Bob.
The votes were very close and it was close to EoD.
The reason Soneji gave for the vote was silly.

Why did Soneji feel like he had to vote? Does Soneji make sure to definitely vote every D1? Cause he seems to be quite the AFK player, especially early. I would think he's had D1s where he doesn't vote (?)

In other words, this fact in itself may point towards either of Bob or Daisy.

This post irks me as well. It's a sandwich.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:32 am I've seen the whole 'mafia get replaced first' thing on other sites, but not that often here.

Mafia DO request replacement more often than town, though, for whatever reason. Weirdos.

Given that, I think it's more important to look at the reason for replacement. Epi popped in practically before the game started. This is probably an indicator that whoever it was that signed up just didn't show up, or bowed out quickly for RL reasons. (My opinion.) That's null.

Sloonei replaced Daisy, who is busy, sure, but around more. That's more suspicious.

It's also possibly angle-shooting?

"It's not a good scum tell around here"

"Uncited fact is that they're more likely scum"

"Nullish exposition"

They are suspicious for the replacement"

"Maybe we shouldn't"

If my LC-meter is working, I would think he is town this game.

That gives me indiglo, Kyle, Owner and LC as town.

The rest can hang =D

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:11 pm Soneji voted Kyle to a three way tie between him, Daisy and Bob.
The votes were very close and it was close to EoD.
The reason Soneji gave for the vote was silly.

Why did Soneji feel like he had to vote? Does Soneji make sure to definitely vote every D1? Cause he seems to be quite the AFK player, especially early. I would think he's had D1s where he doesn't vote (?)

In other words, this fact in itself may point towards either of Bob or Daisy.

If he avoided voting Bob and Daisy because they're his teammates... I don't know if that makes sense. They should have been bussing by that point, right?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:08 pm Is it fair to say that there is an alarming lack of scum hunting this game? Is that normal? Cause I don't think it's normal?

I would say people are complacent with the Day 1 scum lynch, but such complacency should at least be accompanied by a clear path forward based on that.

We lynched the scum too early. Needed more interactions, dammit town!

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:13 pm This post irks me as well. It's a sandwich.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:32 am I've seen the whole 'mafia get replaced FIRST' thing on other sites, but not that often here.

Mafia DO request replacement more often than town, though, for whatever reason. Weirdos.

Given that, I think it's more important to look at the reason for replacement. Epi popped in practically before the game started. This is probably an indicator that whoever it was that signed up just didn't show up, or bowed out quickly for RL reasons. (My opinion.) That's null.

Sloonei replaced Daisy, who is busy, sure, but around more. That's more suspicious.

It's also possibly angle-shooting?

"It's not a good scum tell around here"

"Uncited fact is that they're more likely scum"

"Nullish exposition"

They are suspicious for the replacement"

"Maybe we shouldn't"

You missed a word.

That first sentence was a different topping. This was more like a pizza.
And I never said we 'shouldn't'.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:14 pmIf he avoided voting Bob and Daisy because they're his teammates... I don't know if that makes sense. They should have been bussing by that point, right?

Why would he bus someone who only had two votes? Especially if that player was Daisy, who had two votes for absolutely no reason. All the wagons were weak as hell. The fact that he made sure to vote at all, and made Kyle effectively a competing wagon just by bringing him up to two votes may be significant.

Why did Soneji cate to vote at all if all of Kyle, Daisy and Bob are town for example?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:16 pmI would say people are complacent with the Day 1 scum lynch, but such complacency should at least be accompanied by a clear path forward based on that.

We lynched the scum too early. Needed more interactions, dammit town!

Honestly, from what I've seen, mafia do better overall on this site than on my home site. I think town sometimes lack a sense of urgency and it often frustrates me. I'm not trying to playstyle police here though. I also find it genuinely interesting.