The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:44 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:42 pm If S~V~S is good, then my one-hour POE already feels decent at:

MacDougall
nutella
Long Con
Nanook

I was strong town reading nutella, but I’m finding it strange we can’t connect on our views and I’m also not see that intense revelation she can have as a townie, so I’m increasingly worried there. I’m torn though because I still feel like she’s been for the most part really trying to figure people out. What’s your more detailed opinion of her?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:44 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:42 pm Do you really think Long Con fucked off somewhere because a wild JJJ appeared?

You're effectively calling him a coward.

I think he’s just gone coincidentally.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:45 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:41 pm subjunctive, fuck.

This game will teach me some grammar

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:45 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:41 pm subjunctive, fuck.

You used "was" instead of "were"

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:45 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:44 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:42 pm If S~V~S is good, then my one-hour POE already feels decent at:

MacDougall
nutella
Long Con
Nanook
I was strong town reading nutella, but I’m finding it strange we can’t connect on our views and I’m also not see that intense revelation she can have as a townie, so I’m increasingly worried there. I’m torn though because I still feel like she’s been for the most part really trying to figure people out. What’s your more detailed opinion of her?

nutella is going to have to give me a lot more to earn that kind of credit. She has done some shit in recent games.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:46 pm**

My primary gripe with nutella is that I don't agree with anything she says.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:46 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:45 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:44 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:42 pm If S~V~S is good, then my one-hour POE already feels decent at:

MacDougall
nutella
Long Con
Nanook
I was strong town reading nutella, but I’m finding it strange we can’t connect on our views and I’m also not see that intense revelation she can have as a townie, so I’m increasingly worried there. I’m torn though because I still feel like she’s been for the most part really trying to figure people out. What’s your more detailed opinion of her?
nutella is going to have to give me a lot more to earn that kind of credit. She has done some shit in recent games.

What do you mean by your second sentence?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:47 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:45 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:44 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:42 pm If S~V~S is good, then my one-hour POE already feels decent at:

MacDougall
nutella
Long Con
Nanook
I was strong town reading nutella, but I’m finding it strange we can’t connect on our views and I’m also not see that intense revelation she can have as a townie, so I’m increasingly worried there. I’m torn though because I still feel like she’s been for the most part really trying to figure people out. What’s your more detailed opinion of her?
nutella is going to have to give me a lot more to earn that kind of credit. She has done some shit in recent games.

Eh?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:47 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:42 pm Do you really think Long Con fucked off somewhere because a wild JJJ appeared?

You're effectively calling him a coward.
It's not cowardice. It's strategy. I've done the same thing before. There's nothing to gain from entertaining a newcomer that you're trying to kill when a day is about to end.

I misunderstood your meaning then.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:28 pm Long Con was here when I arrived. He told me he suspects me. I am his best opportunity to realize he should take a different course.

Instead he has gone *poof*

I would do that too if I was a mafioso and my mislynch target got replaced with JaggedJimmyJay at the last second.

You mean that he doesn't care about trying to figure you out at the eleventh hour, right?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:47 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:46 pm What do you mean by your second sentence?

She wasn't just given a Lifetime Achievement induction for nothing. She can be a baddo with the best of baddos. We played on Mafia451 in Nanook's game recently, and she made me look like a turd. I defended her wrongly while the entire local population rightly suspected her.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:48 pm**

Jay is in total fuck mountain mode. I’ve seen him fake it; I don’t think this is faked.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:48 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:47 pm You mean that he doesn't care about trying to figure you out at the eleventh hour, right?

Essentially. A mafioso Long Con has planted his flag on a mislynch, and new information at this stage doesn't have to sway him if he decides it won't.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:48 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:45 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:41 pm subjunctive, fuck.
You used "was" instead of "were"

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:49 pm**

LC could just be away coincidentally. I don't really care. Zero points awarded regardless.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:49 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:47 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:46 pm What do you mean by your second sentence?
She wasn't just given a Lifetime Achievement induction for nothing. She can be a baddo with the best of baddos. We played on Mafia451 in Nanook's game recently, and she made me look like a turd. I defended her wrongly while the entire local population rightly suspected her.

Oh okay, I see what you mean now. That’s fair. I just feel good enough about her that she shouldn’t be on the table for anything today, which to varying degrees is admittedly how I feel about everyone that isn’t LC and Mac.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:49 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:47 pm You mean that he doesn't care about trying to figure you out at the eleventh hour, right?
Essentially. A mafioso Long Con has planted his flag on a mislynch, and new information at this stage doesn't have to sway him if he decides it won't.

I hope he comes back and responds to this then.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:50 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:47 pm You mean that he doesn't care about trying to figure you out at the eleventh hour, right?
Essentially. A mafioso Long Con has planted his flag on a mislynch, and new information at this stage doesn't have to sway him if he decides it won't.

That’s true, and if you and Michelle are both town, despite the votes being spread — I could easily see why scum would have little or no urgency to come back and reevaluate anything, especially since no one foresaw you jumping in here.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:50 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:47 pm You mean that he doesn't care about trying to figure you out at the eleventh hour, right?
Essentially. A mafioso Long Con has planted his flag on a mislynch, and new information at this stage doesn't have to sway him if he decides it won't.
I hope he comes back and responds to this then.

Me too.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:51 pm**

[mention]Michelle[/mention] what's this "no one" abomination?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:52 pm**

In fact, I totally ban myself from making these kinds of reads anymore, but a Mac/LC scum pairing would make things make some sense from a thread environment perspective.

This is a garbage read though and should not probably be seriously considered until we have flips.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:53 pm**

JJJ, I have a question and you are free not to respond if you wish and I won't hold it against you if you choose not to (you can also lie about it, and I'm aware of that possibility):

When did you find out about replacing Dyslexicon and agree to it?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:54 pm**

I lied, I will be gone for a few minutes here but when I return I will be on CPU, so yay!

Also I forgot to respond to Michelle about phone posting. But yeah basically part of what Jay said. In addition to easier deep analysis, I’m much faster and more accurate at typing on a keyboard too.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:54 pm**

In such a small game, pre-flip associative reads aren't as abysmal as they'd often be otherwise. Checking compatibility pairings within a set of nine is a viable task. What I don't advise though is trying to draw connections in isolation between A and B -- they need to solidified by assessments of C, D, E, F, G, H, and I.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:54 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:53 pm JJJ, I have a question and you are free not to respond if you wish and I won't hold it against you if you choose not to (you can also lie about it, and I'm aware of that possibility):

When did you find out about replacing Dyslexicon and agree to it?

Moments before Sloonei threw me in here

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:57 pm**

[mention]nutella[/mention], assume for a moment that Epignosis doesn't exist. Who are you lynching now?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:57 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:53 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:45 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.
Am I on the Michelle train now?
You spoke as if you felt sure she was scum. Perhaps it was hypothetical but it didn't read that way in context.
Maybe it's a scummate that is actually sure she is scum, but doesn't really want to go there so he's tip toeing a bit? Just a wild guess.
Now this is a good post.
If Michelle and I were teammates... like, I'm not afraid to bus. I'm not Michelle's teammate.

Omg he is not my teammate? Then he is scum!

Idk.. LC as mafia writing this post would be a scum claim for my eyes. Because he would know I am villager and he would word it differently.

Is he a player to go for this kind of logic as scum?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:58 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:53 pm JJJ, I have a question and you are free not to respond if you wish and I won't hold it against you if you choose not to (you can also lie about it, and I'm aware of that possibility):

When did you find out about replacing Dyslexicon and agree to it?
Moments before Sloonei threw me in here

I'm fine granting you a Day 2. If I lose because I chose not to be stubborn, it won't be the first time.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:59 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:51 pm @Michelle what's this "no one" abomination?

i need a little thinking moment.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:00 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:57 pm Omg he is not my teammate? Then he is scum!

Idk.. LC as mafia writing this post would be a scum claim for my eyes. Because he would know I am villager and he would word it differently.

Is he a player to go for this kind of logic as scum?

I don't think that's any sort of "scum claim" or slip or the like, but it's not a great post anyway. Long Con severed the tie with you by referring to what he does as a mafioso in general instead of "no, I'm a civilian". I'd consider this a minor thing; it does him no favors.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:01 pm**

I haven’t read pages 10 or 11, hi jay

Finally someone worth sheeping

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:01 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:01 pm I haven’t read pages 10 or 11, hi jay

Finally someone worth sheeping

Hi Nanook!

Why is "inverted reads" JJJ worth sheeping?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:02 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:01 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:01 pm I haven’t read pages 10 or 11, hi jay

Finally someone worth sheeping
Hi Nanook!

Why is "inverted reads" JJJ worth sheeping?

You calling someone scum makes them town

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:03 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:45 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:41 pm subjunctive, fuck.
You used "was" instead of "were"

Nut share your reads pls

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:04 pm**

I don’t really wanna kill any of these options that much tbh

Can we go to Mac or something, I kinda feel like LC is a bit townie

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:05 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:04 pm Can we go to Mac or something, I kinda feel like LC is a bit townie

why, why

Feel free to answer in opaque "I don't like explaining things" language

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:05 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:04 pm I don’t really wanna kill any of these options that much tbh

Can we go to Mac or something, I kinda feel like LC is a bit townie

Based on what?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:07 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:57 pm @nutella, assume for a moment that Epignosis doesn't exist. Who are you lynching now?

Ugh probably LC but i don't feel great about it. I just have more reasons to townread everyone else.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:07 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:05 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:04 pm Can we go to Mac or something, I kinda feel like LC is a bit townie
why, why

Feel free to answer in opaque "I don't like explaining things" language

Gut feel on LC, no reason not to on Mac

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:07 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:26 pm Long Con bailed on the game when I showed up to change his mind about my slot.

Nope. You're doing a great job as Dizzy's replacement, by the way. You sound just like him.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:08 pm**

Could still be okay with a Michelle lynch but I feel like her townie posts balance out her icky ones at this point.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:08 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:26 pm Long Con bailed on the game when I showed up to change his mind about my slot.
Nope. You're doing a great job as Dizzy's replacement, by the way. You sound just like him.

What does that mean?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:09 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:00 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:57 pm Omg he is not my teammate? Then he is scum!

Idk.. LC as mafia writing this post would be a scum claim for my eyes. Because he would know I am villager and he would word it differently.

Is he a player to go for this kind of logic as scum?
I don't think that's any sort of "scum claim" or slip or the like, but it's not a great post anyway. Long Con severed the tie with you by referring to what he does as a mafioso in general instead of "no, I'm a civilian". I'd consider this a minor thing; it does him no favors.

Yup, all my posts are bad, of course. Just lynch me. I'm going for a smoke.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:09 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:26 pm Long Con bailed on the game when I showed up to change his mind about my slot.
Nope. You're doing a great job as Dizzy's replacement, by the way. You sound just like him.
What does that mean?

Oh, I didn't show up as soon as everyone, so I'm bad. My first post said nothing, so I'm bad.

Now, I was away for an hour, so I'm fleeing you because I'm bad.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:10 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:04 pm I don’t really wanna kill any of these options that much tbh

Can we go to Mac or something, I kinda feel like LC is a bit townie

Why mac tho

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:10 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:09 pm Yup, all my posts are bad, of course. Just lynch me. I'm going for a smoke.

okay

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:10 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:10 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:04 pm And in case it isn't clear, I will not save myself. The majority minus me will have the result they want.
That sounds like a strategy that would increase your likelihood of losing.

I like this post too. Except they are teammates there is no reason for LC if he is mafia to post this.

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:10 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:26 pm Long Con bailed on the game when I showed up to change his mind about my slot.
Nope. You're doing a great job as Dizzy's replacement, by the way. You sound just like him.

...huh

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:10 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:10 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:04 pm I don’t really wanna kill any of these options that much tbh

Can we go to Mac or something, I kinda feel like LC is a bit townie
Why mac tho

Why not mac?

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:11 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:09 pm Oh, I didn't show up as soon as everyone, so I'm bad. My first post said nothing, so I'm bad.

Now, I was away for an hour, so I'm fleeing you because I'm bad.

I just read Dizzy's posts and I don't see anything like that.

Dramatic

Posted: **Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:11 pm**

Okay, I'm CPU MP7 now.

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