The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:53 pm**

They're both hard poe so

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:59 pm**

I'm fine w/ either one.

Fingers treatment of TSPs slot looks like distancing to me

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:14 pm**

lol wolves

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:16 pm**

Ok so Poe is everyone who isn’t a mason

Will say that if I’m a wolf with GMan I kill wilgy for the SHC and easy win

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:53 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:18 pm Fuck that's hilarious

Legendary

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:56 pm**

It’s more funny considering that our only power roles are Mason and backup Mason so far. I wouldn’t be surprised if mafia only had the one roleblocker and town has zero targeting roles

Super normal

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:58 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:01 pm Kinda feeling sprityo more tbh. Though I agree tsp isn't great.

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Sir I need you to stop tinfoiling me

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:02 pm**

I’m glad mafia got desperate and killed wilgy blindly and I like to think my calculations contributed to that. It just boosts my ego a little bit.

Also plot twist: there was only ever two power roles and everyone else is vanilla

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:04 pm**

Would it be suspicious if falcon or DDL were alive tomorrow? Having town with free btsc still isn’t favorable for mafia no matter how minute.

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:55 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:04 pm Would it be suspicious if falcon or DDL were alive tomorrow? Having town with free btsc still isn’t favorable for mafia no matter how minute.

It would be dumb from the mafia's part.

But if you think we are both scum I dunno what to say. Would be a fantastic scum game if we did that.

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:59 pm**

Btw if anyone has a role you think can self-confirm or give more info on other people, now is a good time to claim. Mafia only has two kills left so they can't add more people to their kill list besides me and falcon, unless they let one of us live to final 3. Your info might be worth risking yourself for, at this stage.

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:06 pm**

The exception to the above is if you are standing on a role that has yet to produce that into and could turn the gane around, like a doctor, a RB or a tracker. In that case, maybe stay hidden a little more, yeah

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:07 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:58 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:01 pm Kinda feeling sprityo more tbh. Though I agree tsp isn't great.

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Sir I need you to stop tinfoiling me

I mean I dont need to tinfoil, you are doing nothing and just sitting on the comfort of the PoEs.

Well sir, the PoE wants you dead next.

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:54 pm**

Going thru fingers ISO, and it looks like she teslly only gives alignment opinions on 3 players: LC Town, TSP always wolfy, and sus of sprityo but doesn't feel comfortable to vote

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:56 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:54 pm Going thru fingers ISO, and it looks like she really only gives alignment opinions on 3 players: LC Town, TSP always wolfy, and sus of sprityo but doesn't feel comfortable to vote

Fixed

Fuckin mobile

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:03 pm**

Uncanny gambit by Wilgy. Lucky for me, I have tomorrow off, so I can do some ISO work. Voting Nanook for now. Don’t want to forget that it was the train that lost yesterday.

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:05 pm**

I have a really bad history of trusting scum Nanook.

Would sheep people on voting for him. But I don't feel it right now

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:12 pm**

Voting nanook since he has 30 posts and has mostly done nothing and was just a wolf in a game where he had 30 posts and mostly did nothing but I think this game sorta plays itself and actually him clearing gman is something he wouldn't do unless he was partners with gman and I sorta don't think we live in that world so idk

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:14 pm**

ok teams

nanook/gman
nanook/LC (can afford to clear gman)
ddl/falcon
LC/gman
LC/sprit
sprit/gman

and that's it?
any of these seem not plausible?

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:17 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:12 pm Voting nanook since he has 30 posts and has mostly done nothing and was just a wolf in a game where he had 30 posts and mostly did nothing but I think this game sorta plays itself and actually him clearing gman is something he wouldn't do unless he was partners with gman and I sorta don't think we live in that world so idk

I mean nanook didn't clear gman. Wilgy's claim and mafia's night choices soft-cleared gman. Nook just pointed it out. Anyone else could have.

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:24 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:14 pm ok teams

nanook/gman
nanook/LC (can afford to clear gman)
ddl/falcon
LC/gman
LC/sprit
sprit/gman

and that's it?
any of these seem not plausible?

i mean that's from your perspective, but yes those are pairs of people that are not masons

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:49 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:24 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:14 pm ok teams

nanook/gman
nanook/LC (can afford to clear gman)
ddl/falcon
LC/gman
LC/sprit
sprit/gman

and that's it?
any of these seem not plausible?
i mean that's from your perspective, but yes those are pairs of people that are not masons

What do you think of TSPs perspective?

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:04 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:12 pm Voting nanook since he has 30 posts and has mostly done nothing and was just a wolf in a game where he had 30 posts and mostly did nothing but I think this game sorta plays itself and actually him clearing gman is something he wouldn't do unless he was partners with gman and I sorta don't think we live in that world so idk

I also just played a scum game where I carried

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:06 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:12 pm Voting nanook since he has 30 posts and has mostly done nothing and was just a wolf in a game where he had 30 posts and mostly did nothing but I think this game sorta plays itself and actually him clearing gman is something he wouldn't do unless he was partners with gman and I sorta don't think we live in that world so idk
I mean nanook didn't clear gman. Wilgy's claim and mafia's night choices soft-cleared gman. Nook just pointed it out. Anyone else could have.

I think he means that if I were mafia my nk choice would clear gman

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:11 pm**

[VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:19 pm**

I've had a long day driving through a snow storm and I'm tired as fuck, I'll out my thought process when I'm not out of it.

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:25 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:12 pm Voting nanook since he has 30 posts and has mostly done nothing and was just a wolf in a game where he had 30 posts and mostly did nothing but I think this game sorta plays itself and actually him clearing gman is something he wouldn't do unless he was partners with gman and I sorta don't think we live in that world so idk
I mean nanook didn't clear gman. Wilgy's claim and mafia's night choices soft-cleared gman. Nook just pointed it out. Anyone else could have.

Tbh I mean the same thing by the thing that you said that wasn’t true and the second thing you said

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:25 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:06 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:12 pm Voting nanook since he has 30 posts and has mostly done nothing and was just a wolf in a game where he had 30 posts and mostly did nothing but I think this game sorta plays itself and actually him clearing gman is something he wouldn't do unless he was partners with gman and I sorta don't think we live in that world so idk
I mean nanook didn't clear gman. Wilgy's claim and mafia's night choices soft-cleared gman. Nook just pointed it out. Anyone else could have.
I think he means that if I were mafia my nk choice would clear gman

I mean the opposite of that

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:26 pm**

Well I did t say anything about it but like I think the nk makes GMan/X teams less likely except GMan/Nanook which becomes more likely

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:27 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:12 pm Voting nanook since he has 30 posts and has mostly done nothing and was just a wolf in a game where he had 30 posts and mostly did nothing but I think this game sorta plays itself and actually him clearing gman is something he wouldn't do unless he was partners with gman and I sorta don't think we live in that world so idk
I also just played a scum game where I carried

Why couldn’t that have been with me
Was it with me and I forgot

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:28 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:12 pm Voting nanook since he has 30 posts and has mostly done nothing and was just a wolf in a game where he had 30 posts and mostly did nothing but I think this game sorta plays itself and actually him clearing gman is something he wouldn't do unless he was partners with gman and I sorta don't think we live in that world so idk
I also just played a scum game where I carried
Why couldn’t that have been with me
Was it with me and I forgot

No it was on mu

My pride was challenged so I memed my way to a win

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:42 pm**

I guess if NANOOK insists on voting me I must oblige him

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:43 pm**

I thought NANOOK was town leaning because of his interaction with Axe? Did I miss everyone flipping their opinion on him?

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:04 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:43 pm I thought NANOOK was town leaning because of his interaction with Axe? Did I miss everyone flipping their opinion on him?

Did you?

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:14 pm**

Unsure of my direction after some ISO work. There are seven of us left. Two of us are mafia. I know that I am town. That leaves two mafia among the six of you. All I need is a POE of three and we win. If the backup mason duo of DDL and Falcon is legit, then it reduces my POE to four. This would mean I just need to identify one more town role and we will be on the path to victory.

@Dragon D. Luffy and @falcon45ca: explain to me (preferably one at a time) how you know your role to work.

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:16 pm**

Killing me is the only realistic way we lose this game lol

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:19 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:16 pm Killing me is the only realistic way we lose this game lol

Why

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:19 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:04 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:43 pm I thought NANOOK was town leaning because of his interaction with Axe? Did I miss everyone flipping their opinion on him?
Did you?

I must have

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:20 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:16 pm Killing me is the only realistic way we lose this game lol
Why

We have 3 clears or functional clears

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:24 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:20 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:19 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:16 pm Killing me is the only realistic way we lose this game lol
Why
We have 3 clears or functional clears

could you just explain it?

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:27 pm**

Sighs

Falcon and ddl are both backup masons, confirming each other. Unlikely the mafia team does that.

Gman is functionally cleared by wilgy NK, as explained earlier today

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:29 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:14 pm Unsure of my direction after some ISO work. There are seven of us left. Two of us are mafia. I know that I am town. That leaves two mafia among the six of you. All I need is a POE of three and we win. If the backup mason duo of DDL and Falcon is legit, then it reduces my POE to four. This would mean I just need to identify one more town role and we will be on the path to victory.

@Dragon D. Luffy and @falcon45ca: explain to me (preferably one at a time) how you know your role to work.

Sure.

I was told I was backup mason. After NAA died, I was put into a BTSC w/ DDL, the same one NAA had before they died. He talked to himself a little, and then DDL & I joined and have been chatting since

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:38 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:27 pm Sighs

Falcon and ddl are both backup masons, confirming each other. Unlikely the mafia team does that.

Gman is functionally cleared by wilgy NK, as explained earlier today

thought you were alluding to a 4th person outside of them, but nevermind

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:39 pm**

Until @Dragon D. Luffy and @falcon45ca respectively respond to my inquiry, let's play a little game...

If DDL and Falcon are masons together, and you believe that Wilgy's death is in some way a confirmation of my town status, then the other four players in the game all have their POE of three to push forward with if you are town as well:

Town @Lime Coke POE of 3:
-Nanook
-sprityo
-Tony

Town @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME POE of 3:
-Lime Coke
-sprityo
-Tony

Town @sprityo POE of 3:
-Lime Coke
-Nanook
-Tony

Town @TonyStarkPrime POE of 3:
-Lime Coke
-Nanook
-sprityo

Given those respective POE's, I'd like each of the four of you to put your POE of 3 into a preferred chop order.

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:44 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:14 pm Unsure of my direction after some ISO work. There are seven of us left. Two of us are mafia. I know that I am town. That leaves two mafia among the six of you. All I need is a POE of three and we win. If the backup mason duo of DDL and Falcon is legit, then it reduces my POE to four. This would mean I just need to identify one more town role and we will be on the path to victory.

@Dragon D. Luffy and @falcon45ca: explain to me (preferably one at a time) how you know your role to work.

The theory:

There may or may not be one or more masons in the game.

If a mason dies and I'm still alive, I become a mason. If there are any other masons in the game when that happens, I join them in BTSC and get mod confirmation of their innocence. If any other backup masons exist, they also join the same BTSC.

The practice:

Me and falcon are backup masons. NAA was a mason. So his death triggered us both being added to the BTSC chat that NAA originally belonged to.

Normal games may only have townie masons, so I'm 100% sure falcon is town.

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:50 pm**

Also if you look at MafiaWiki, the way masons work here is pretty strict. They can only work the way I described. You feel free to believe if me and falcon made a double fake claim or not. Or to try to spot if we are claiming something different from the official role. But the official role is pretty much unable to lie to players.

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:53 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:44 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:14 pm Unsure of my direction after some ISO work. There are seven of us left. Two of us are mafia. I know that I am town. That leaves two mafia among the six of you. All I need is a POE of three and we win. If the backup mason duo of DDL and Falcon is legit, then it reduces my POE to four. This would mean I just need to identify one more town role and we will be on the path to victory.

@Dragon D. Luffy and @falcon45ca: explain to me (preferably one at a time) how you know your role to work.
The theory:

There may or may not be one or more masons in the game.

If a mason dies and I'm still alive, I become a mason. If there are any other masons in the game when that happens, I join them in BTSC and get mod confirmation of their innocence. If any other backup masons exist, they also join the same BTSC.

The practice:

Me and falcon are backup masons. NAA was a mason. So his death triggered us both being added to the BTSC chat that NAA originally belonged to.

Normal games may only have townie masons, so I'm 100% sure falcon is town.

Under your premise, NAA (the known mason) did not have a BTSC partner with him in the chat?

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:00 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:39 pm Until @Dragon D. Luffy and @falcon45ca respectively respond to my inquiry, let's play a little game...

If DDL and Falcon are masons together, and you believe that Wilgy's death is in some way a confirmation of my town status, then the other four players in the game all have their POE of three to push forward with if you are town as well:

Town @Lime Coke POE of 3:
-Nanook
-sprityo
-Tony

Town @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME POE of 3:
-Lime Coke
-sprityo
-Tony

Town @sprityo POE of 3:
-Lime Coke
-Nanook
-Tony

Town @TonyStarkPrime POE of 3:
-Lime Coke
-Nanook
-sprityo

Given those respective POE's, I'd like each of the four of you to put your POE of 3 into a preferred chop order.

No

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:02 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:00 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:39 pm Until @Dragon D. Luffy and @falcon45ca respectively respond to my inquiry, let's play a little game...

If DDL and Falcon are masons together, and you believe that Wilgy's death is in some way a confirmation of my town status, then the other four players in the game all have their POE of three to push forward with if you are town as well:

Town @Lime Coke POE of 3:
-Nanook
-sprityo
-Tony

Town @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME POE of 3:
-Lime Coke
-sprityo
-Tony

Town @sprityo POE of 3:
-Lime Coke
-Nanook
-Tony

Town @TonyStarkPrime POE of 3:
-Lime Coke
-Nanook
-sprityo

Given those respective POE's, I'd like each of the four of you to put your POE of 3 into a preferred chop order.
No

Underlying reasons for this decision?

Posted: **Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:02 pm**

It doesn't matter what order they go in as long as they go

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