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what have you done for someone to get a town gutread on youNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:49 amIdk if she trs me or not but atp it's entirely reasonable if she does imo
I've been posting and talking about stuff recently, some of jt directly with lily, I think its reasonable for her to think "yeah this js town nanook," particularly with the context of my porscha sr and how the dynamic between me/abbi/lily/porscha has often played out in the pastrobyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:50 amwhat have you done for someone to get a town gutread on youNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:49 amIdk if she trs me or not but atp it's entirely reasonable if she does imo
There's no time as now tbh☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:43 amI mean tbf Porscha wasn't really an option that looked valid and there's like not much time left
oops i forgot that detailNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:48 amWell I might have to self prep so I'm kinda holding off to see if I can get porscha going, since votes can't be moved
I'm breaking this out of my bigger post to point out that this is wildly different to the landlord flavour I'm given. To the point where I squint at it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:43 pmMy flavor is like pro landlord lobbyist or somesuch (I had to double check flavor claiming was allowed).Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:04 pmAren’t we all landlord though?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:40 pmI’ll get what I deserve for working with landlords.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:34 pmDude, this is like Survivor now. There's a sizable clique already formed and it's mostly folks I don't even know. I'm not making it anywhere without being part of a crew. How about you?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:31 pm Right? “Not only are your reads gonna be wrong, if they happen to be right, your team will ignore them after they murder you cause you won’t flip.”
A fate worthy of filthy fucking landlords.
my gut says i should town read thisEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:18 amI'm breaking this out of my bigger post to point out that this is wildly different to the landlord flavour I'm given. To the point where I squint at it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:43 pmMy flavor is like pro landlord lobbyist or somesuch (I had to double check flavor claiming was allowed).Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:04 pmAren’t we all landlord though?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:40 pmI’ll get what I deserve for working with landlords.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:34 pmDude, this is like Survivor now. There's a sizable clique already formed and it's mostly folks I don't even know. I'm not making it anywhere without being part of a crew. How about you?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:31 pm Right? “Not only are your reads gonna be wrong, if they happen to be right, your team will ignore them after they murder you cause you won’t flip.”
A fate worthy of filthy fucking landlords.
Yes. Yes. I know. Flavour reads suck.
But it's just very weirdly notable.
I don't need Bereft to read Robyn anymore this is town nice.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:37 pmi am not and will not exclude you, i will listen to you and pay very close attention to what you have to say and i'll give it genuine consideration. my knock on your readslist doesn't really matter except this post + that both are ++++ town points. like reads sub 500 posts in are nonsense even though i've solved games in less, having anti consensus reads is fairly town indicative, do you agree with the logic?/understand me more?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:34 pmDude, this is like Survivor now. There's a sizable clique already formed and it's mostly folks I don't even know. I'm not making it anywhere without being part of a crew. How about you?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:31 pm Right? “Not only are your reads gonna be wrong, if they happen to be right, your team will ignore them after they murder you cause you won’t flip.”
A fate worthy of filthy fucking landlords.
Sussy bakaJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:40 pmI’ll get what I deserve for working with landlords.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:34 pmDude, this is like Survivor now. There's a sizable clique already formed and it's mostly folks I don't even know. I'm not making it anywhere without being part of a crew. How about you?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:31 pm Right? “Not only are your reads gonna be wrong, if they happen to be right, your team will ignore them after they murder you cause you won’t flip.”
A fate worthy of filthy fucking landlords.
Lmao. Something something aged well =P
Yes but it is exactly the weird thing that robyn primary reads off and then gets right. And I hate it. Wolf!robyn usually tries to play nicer inside the "expected" read range.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:23 pmsaying "oh having anti consensus reads are town indicative" just seems robotic to me tbhrobyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:37 pmi am not and will not exclude you, i will listen to you and pay very close attention to what you have to say and i'll give it genuine consideration. my knock on your readslist doesn't really matter except this post + that both are ++++ town points. like reads sub 500 posts in are nonsense even though i've solved games in less, having anti consensus reads is fairly town indicative, do you agree with the logic?/understand me more?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:34 pmDude, this is like Survivor now. There's a sizable clique already formed and it's mostly folks I don't even know. I'm not making it anywhere without being part of a crew. How about you?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:31 pm Right? “Not only are your reads gonna be wrong, if they happen to be right, your team will ignore them after they murder you cause you won’t flip.”
A fate worthy of filthy fucking landlords.
Nice
Nevermind the Cape read is thrown in the trash.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:31 pm Like even though I think my vote is on a wolf, I'm not sure I actually want robyn dead since that seems very bad for town if robyn is town. So that leaves me in the frustrating position of basically having my vote thrown away.
Also to update on abigail, i kind of like #369, dont really like the rest of the Scotty push even though I think Scotty could be a mafia this game regardless so I am still thinking Abigail is town.
Both Long Con and S~V~S slightly lean town, probs would say Long Con > S~V~S
Bereft has been towny lately https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?p=1079453#p1079453 #378
Same SVS insta-read, and Scotty in general has been poking things in a towny way. What more do you want. (Yes, yes, there's the whole "Disagree with towncore suggestion" but I really don't think I agree with any one saying about widening the POE on D1. Also traditionally the first to object to towncoring is usually another town and wolves will encourage/villify that person.) (Exception being D3 or later but shush.)Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:12 pmthis post is all sorts of wolfy thoguh, not sure what EnderWiggin sees in this, nor what's wolfy about S V S's trying to keep up but busy post thingScotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:59 pmExcuse post, me no likey.True, you’re tricksy and my D1 read on you the past few games has been utterly wrong.
I never claimed to be great at vibe reading people on D1.
But try I must
Squints aggressivelyLime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:05 pmHey we could make a Final 2 together and have them pick between the two LCs with who wins.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:34 pmDude, this is like Survivor now. There's a sizable clique already formed and it's mostly folks I don't even know. I'm not making it anywhere without being part of a crew. How about you?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:31 pm Right? “Not only are your reads gonna be wrong, if they happen to be right, your team will ignore them after they murder you cause you won’t flip.”
A fate worthy of filthy fucking landlords.
N-no wait I'm not in this don't make the alliance yet.
So last time LC did something like this D1 they were wolf who pocketed me. Make of that what you will. Normally he's a LOT more paranoid of me tbqh.
I'd gamble against that.
I mean....NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:30 am Don't think I want to make flavor reads in a rondo game, he seems just as likely to have a red herring as an accurate flavor read lol
Idk I have a really good record reading porscha d1EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:35 am I don't feel that good about Porscha wagon tbh. Porscha's D1 as both alignments tends to be weak and the number of times I've misyeeted that is...
Nyeh.
But also Scotty/Nook are the other options.
So. [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
Yes bb, now we need to n1 abbi so she doesn't wreck us againEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:37 am I will note that despite defending him here I don't actually townread Nook yet. I just know I'll read him later so wanna keep him around.
(Am I doing good distancing Nook?)
who could you forget the Monsieur Boquise tbhEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:38 am Bereft/Robyn/Scotty/Lily are my current townreads that come to mind.
I feel like I had another one but I'm just off work and brain no worky
Lmao.Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:39 amwho could you forget the Monsieur Boquise tbhEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:38 am Bereft/Robyn/Scotty/Lily are my current townreads that come to mind.
I feel like I had another one but I'm just off work and brain no worky
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:39 am Maybe Boq but he's a silver tongued cad and I don't want to hard townread him for ? reasons.
I should receive a PhD in comedic timing for free tbhBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:39 amwho could you forget the Monsieur Boquise tbhEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:38 am Bereft/Robyn/Scotty/Lily are my current townreads that come to mind.
I feel like I had another one but I'm just off work and brain no worky
Yeah I find this post kinda Wolfy. Like it was just discussed that we have only one vote.
Yeah I mean I knew the post cap at the start of the game but missed the one vote thing so sure.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:38 pmI mean I assume in chat that my partners have read the rules. Sometimes some get missed, but I’m not remembering ever reiterating rules unless I see my partners glaringly obliviousS~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:18 pmWow you really haven’t been bad in a while. Wolves have to be on top of rules, how else go they manipulate town in a game like this with unique rules?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:54 pmI mean it’s been a while since I’ve been in BTSC with partners but from my experience, wolves aren’t reminding each other rule clarifications in chat like ‘now partners, remember, plurality voting +1 starting day 2, so be prepared!’Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:52 pmig it depends on how communicative the wolves were pregame/n0
I think EnderWiggin is town regardless, usually JOH2005 isn't too hard for me to find, at least I usually TR them when they are town, I have limited wolf experience with him.
If you answered this later don't say anything, but what u get pinged by?Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:26 pm As much as I hate it my best guess is SVS flips wolf?
There's some posts that feel fine, but then there's a few pings from her iso that I can't shake off?
I don't know if I want to ask others how strong her wolf game is? This might help with something.
Scotty got a bit better and I'm not feeling like yeeting him. Letting that one simmer a bit but his pushing has felt like what I've seen him do in his town game.
But we shall see.
The rest of my townreads that I had before: Bereft, Robyn, Abigail, Cape have all made me more confident in my reads there.
That's basically it.
tbqh yesBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:40 amEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:39 am Maybe Boq but he's a silver tongued cad and I don't want to hard townread him for ? reasons.I should receive a PhD in comedic timing for free tbhBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:39 amwho could you forget the Monsieur Boquise tbhEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:38 am Bereft/Robyn/Scotty/Lily are my current townreads that come to mind.
I feel like I had another one but I'm just off work and brain no worky
I suppose notBoquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:56 amThere's no time as now tbh☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:43 amI mean tbf Porscha wasn't really an option that looked valid and there's like not much time left
I don't like this Long Con vote in context with Scotty posting this
Am I a wolf in the we are arch nemesis' way or in the you actually think I'm a wolf washEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:34 amI don't need Bereft to read Robyn anymore this is town nice.robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:37 pmi am not and will not exclude you, i will listen to you and pay very close attention to what you have to say and i'll give it genuine consideration. my knock on your readslist doesn't really matter except this post + that both are ++++ town points. like reads sub 500 posts in are nonsense even though i've solved games in less, having anti consensus reads is fairly town indicative, do you agree with the logic?/understand me more?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:34 pmDude, this is like Survivor now. There's a sizable clique already formed and it's mostly folks I don't even know. I'm not making it anywhere without being part of a crew. How about you?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:31 pm Right? “Not only are your reads gonna be wrong, if they happen to be right, your team will ignore them after they murder you cause you won’t flip.”
A fate worthy of filthy fucking landlords.
Sussy bakaJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:40 pmI’ll get what I deserve for working with landlords.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:34 pmDude, this is like Survivor now. There's a sizable clique already formed and it's mostly folks I don't even know. I'm not making it anywhere without being part of a crew. How about you?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:31 pm Right? “Not only are your reads gonna be wrong, if they happen to be right, your team will ignore them after they murder you cause you won’t flip.”
A fate worthy of filthy fucking landlords.
Lmao. Something something aged well =P
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I could get behind the WWA sus. But I also read her ~decently well later so I'm more inclined to leave her alive.
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Cape misreading things is actually cape villa range imo. (Loljoke read but also really.)
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Rondo messing up the poll is very sus btw, pretty sure he's not a landlord.
Yes but it is exactly the weird thing that robyn primary reads off and then gets right. And I hate it. Wolf!robyn usually tries to play nicer inside the "expected" read range.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:23 pmsaying "oh having anti consensus reads are town indicative" just seems robotic to me tbhrobyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:37 pmi am not and will not exclude you, i will listen to you and pay very close attention to what you have to say and i'll give it genuine consideration. my knock on your readslist doesn't really matter except this post + that both are ++++ town points. like reads sub 500 posts in are nonsense even though i've solved games in less, having anti consensus reads is fairly town indicative, do you agree with the logic?/understand me more?Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:34 pmDude, this is like Survivor now. There's a sizable clique already formed and it's mostly folks I don't even know. I'm not making it anywhere without being part of a crew. How about you?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:31 pm Right? “Not only are your reads gonna be wrong, if they happen to be right, your team will ignore them after they murder you cause you won’t flip.”
A fate worthy of filthy fucking landlords.
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For posterity sake:
Abi is a wolf.
Nice
Nevermind the Cape read is thrown in the trash.Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:31 pm Like even though I think my vote is on a wolf, I'm not sure I actually want robyn dead since that seems very bad for town if robyn is town. So that leaves me in the frustrating position of basically having my vote thrown away.
Also to update on abigail, i kind of like #369, dont really like the rest of the Scotty push even though I think Scotty could be a mafia this game regardless so I am still thinking Abigail is town.
Both Long Con and S~V~S slightly lean town, probs would say Long Con > S~V~S
Bereft has been towny lately https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?p=1079453#p1079453 #378
I wolfread em now bois
Same SVS insta-read, and Scotty in general has been poking things in a towny way. What more do you want. (Yes, yes, there's the whole "Disagree with towncore suggestion" but I really don't think I agree with any one saying about widening the POE on D1. Also traditionally the first to object to towncoring is usually another town and wolves will encourage/villify that person.) (Exception being D3 or later but shush.)Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:12 pmthis post is all sorts of wolfy thoguh, not sure what EnderWiggin sees in this, nor what's wolfy about S V S's trying to keep up but busy post thingScotty wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:59 pmExcuse post, me no likey.True, you’re tricksy and my D1 read on you the past few games has been utterly wrong.
I never claimed to be great at vibe reading people on D1.
But try I must
Squints aggressivelyLime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:05 pmHey we could make a Final 2 together and have them pick between the two LCs with who wins.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:34 pmDude, this is like Survivor now. There's a sizable clique already formed and it's mostly folks I don't even know. I'm not making it anywhere without being part of a crew. How about you?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:31 pm Right? “Not only are your reads gonna be wrong, if they happen to be right, your team will ignore them after they murder you cause you won’t flip.”
A fate worthy of filthy fucking landlords.
N-no wait I'm not in this don't make the alliance yet.
So last time LC did something like this D1 they were wolf who pocketed me. Make of that what you will. Normally he's a LOT more paranoid of me tbqh.
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Lily feels town? Pondering the orb.
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I am historically a good Nanook reader by D3, so I'm very very tentative to yeet him D1.
In actual fact in flipless I'd dare say that he's a pretty strong asset if town despite his relative low posting.
I'd gamble against that.
I mean....NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:30 am Don't think I want to make flavor reads in a rondo game, he seems just as likely to have a red herring as an accurate flavor read lol
You know what? I really shouldn't. Rondo is probably laughing at me.
Do it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:38 amYes bb, now we need to n1 abbi so she doesn't wreck us againEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:37 am I will note that despite defending him here I don't actually townread Nook yet. I just know I'll read him later so wanna keep him around.
(Am I doing good distancing Nook?)