The Syndicate

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:48 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:42 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:37 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:26 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:23 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:21 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:00 pm

Why? Am I supposed to lie and make up a read?

No, ofcourse not

I just would have expected you to have already found a town or two without making it up, as I think thread was more enlightening then you made it seem; I already got various reads at least

Not strong ones, sure, but usually I'm not this far ahead in # of reads

How is incessant arguing about Sabi not wanting to be here

A bunch of slank covers and some really bad memes enlightening?

WWA and Cape have been townie
Nutella and Sabi have been wolfie

Thats enlightening

Yes but the problem you see is that I simply do not agree with any of that

What makes WWA and Cape not townie in your eyes? What makes Nutella and Sabi not wolfy in your eyes?

How the fuck do I answer this?

I... don't think they are?

Nothing they've done sways be?

Sabi is actually towny?

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:46 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:46 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:34 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:27 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:24 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:23 pm

I don't think Sig meant it as an attack to you and you do also consider that town cored ppl may be town anyway

The concept of how I play is that I shouldn't reconsider until later though so I am ostensibly exactly what he said here

I guess

I was just trying to bring up that you're better than you and others that see you as such think

I think Abigail has a great deal of self awareness and accurately assesses her skill level.

No, she undervalues herself lots

Maybe she posts now & then that she thinks she's great and stuff but in reality she doesn't see herself like that at all

I'm pretty sure Alison thinks I'm not great

I know but I'm intentionally ignoring that

Because you are great

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:50 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:46 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:46 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:34 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:27 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:24 pm

The concept of how I play is that I shouldn't reconsider until later though so I am ostensibly exactly what he said here

I guess

I was just trying to bring up that you're better than you and others that see you as such think

I think Abigail has a great deal of self awareness and accurately assesses her skill level.

No, she undervalues herself lots

Maybe she posts now & then that she thinks she's great and stuff but in reality she doesn't see herself like that at all

I'm pretty sure Alison thinks I'm not great

I know but I'm intentionally ignoring that

Because you are great

Fake

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:54 pm Before going to sleep this is the post count.
Idk how much helps, but makes me look at some people

Spoiler: show

Who posted - Game of Champions XIII [Night 0] - 553 replies
User NamePosts
☆Princess Abigail☆79
Caitlin78
Guillotine76
WindwardAway44
falcon45ca34
Sabiplz23
sig22
Alison21
pyxxy19
Cape9017
nutella16
Seanzie15
Porscha14
Michelle12
RondoDimBuckle11
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME10
Epignosis9
Lemonfairy9
leetic7
Scotty7
Lime Coke6
Dyslexicon5
DarlingMonroe4
Delta3
Long Con3
TonyStarkPrime3
Master Radishes2
Sloonei2
DrWilgy1
fingersplints1
S~V~S1

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:50 pm How do I iso?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:57 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:50 pm How do I iso?

If you look at the thread from here and click the number of posts you will have the list of posters.
Click on the number of posts in the right and you have the Iso of that player

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:58 pm I'm here, but I do not have the energy to keep up with over posting, so I'll read what I read and do my best with what I can. :P

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:55 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:54 pm Before going to sleep this is the post count.
Idk how much helps, but makes me look at some people

Spoiler: show

Who posted - Game of Champions XIII [Night 0] - 553 replies
User NamePosts
☆Princess Abigail☆79
Caitlin78
Guillotine76
WindwardAway44
falcon45ca34
Sabiplz23
sig22
Alison21
pyxxy19
Cape9017
nutella16
Seanzie15
Porscha14
Michelle12
RondoDimBuckle11
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME10
Epignosis9
Lemonfairy9
leetic7
Scotty7
Lime Coke6
Dyslexicon5
DarlingMonroe4
Delta3
Long Con3
TonyStarkPrime3
Master Radishes2
Sloonei2
DrWilgy1
fingersplints1
S~V~S1

Me, Abbi and Guillo totally town

Before you sleep, how do I ISO someone?

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:58 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:57 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:50 pm How do I iso?

If you look at the thread from here and click the number of posts you will have the list of posters.
Click on the number of posts in the right and you have the Iso of that player

Thank youuuuu

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:42 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:39 pm So why would she hint at it here?

Because it was a genuine thought. She genuinely did intend to remind Caitlin the game started, for completely innocuous reasons. That thought slipped out because it was an honest thought with no malicious intent. It's no different from saying "alright guys I'm going out for dinner, see you all later" in her mind. Scum say things like that all the time, it's just a part of normal posting/interaction. The slip was that she didn't realize the thought wouldn't materialize if she was town, and even if it did, she would react to me calling it out far less weirdly.

For example I think that town Abigail who actually didn't know it was a rule would just say "oh my bad I didn't know it was a rule" instead of saying my post is stupid and not a big deal. It's a very defensive reaction.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:46 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:34 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:27 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:24 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:23 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:13 pm

I feel attacked

I don't think Sig meant it as an attack to you and you do also consider that town cored ppl may be town anyway

The concept of how I play is that I shouldn't reconsider until later though so I am ostensibly exactly what he said here

I guess

I was just trying to bring up that you're better than you and others that see you as such think

I think Abigail has a great deal of self awareness and accurately assesses her skill level.

No, she undervalues herself lots

Maybe she posts now & then that she thinks she's great and stuff but in reality she doesn't see herself like that at all

I'm pretty sure Alison thinks I'm not great

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:49 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:48 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:42 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:37 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:26 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:23 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:21 pm

No, ofcourse not

I just would have expected you to have already found a town or two without making it up, as I think thread was more enlightening then you made it seem; I already got various reads at least

Not strong ones, sure, but usually I'm not this far ahead in # of reads

How is incessant arguing about Sabi not wanting to be here

A bunch of slank covers and some really bad memes enlightening?

WWA and Cape have been townie
Nutella and Sabi have been wolfie

Thats enlightening

Yes but the problem you see is that I simply do not agree with any of that

What makes WWA and Cape not townie in your eyes? What makes Nutella and Sabi not wolfy in your eyes?

How the fuck do I answer this?

I... don't think they are?

Nothing they've done sways be?

Sabi is actually towny?

What is townie about Sabi then?

I personally wolfread them for being like 'its night 0 how are people solving' which would be a normal post for a noob but is practically bs coming from an experienced player

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:03 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:42 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:39 pm So why would she hint at it here?

Because it was a genuine thought. She genuinely did intend to remind Caitlin the game started, for completely innocuous reasons. That thought slipped out because it was an honest thought with no malicious intent. It's no different from saying "alright guys I'm going out for dinner, see you all later" in her mind. Scum say things like that all the time, it's just a part of normal posting/interaction. The slip was that she didn't realize the thought wouldn't materialize if she was town, and even if it did, she would react to me calling it out far less weirdly.

For example I think that town Abigail who actually didn't know it was a rule would just say "oh my bad I didn't know it was a rule" instead of saying my post is stupid and not a big deal. It's a very defensive reaction.

Ok, i understand why it could be a slip.

Neon is the rebellious type though, it is not strange for her to call a rule dumb and double down on it.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:42 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:39 pm So why would she hint at it here?

Because it was a genuine thought. She genuinely did intend to remind Caitlin the game started, for completely innocuous reasons. That thought slipped out because it was an honest thought with no malicious intent. It's no different from saying "alright guys I'm going out for dinner, see you all later" in her mind. Scum say things like that all the time, it's just a part of normal posting/interaction. The slip was that she didn't realize the thought wouldn't materialize if she was town, and even if it did, she would react to me calling it out far less weirdly.

For example I think that town Abigail who actually didn't know it was a rule would just say "oh my bad I didn't know it was a rule" instead of saying my post is stupid and not a big deal. It's a very defensive reaction.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:22 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:46 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:34 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:27 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:24 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:23 pm

I don't think Sig meant it as an attack to you and you do also consider that town cored ppl may be town anyway

The concept of how I play is that I shouldn't reconsider until later though so I am ostensibly exactly what he said here

I guess

I was just trying to bring up that you're better than you and others that see you as such think

I think Abigail has a great deal of self awareness and accurately assesses her skill level.

No, she undervalues herself lots

Maybe she posts now & then that she thinks she's great and stuff but in reality she doesn't see herself like that at all

I'm pretty sure Alison thinks I'm not great

Stop with these type of comments please. They usually lead to toxicity, let us not.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.

It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.

Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.

My knee jerk reaction is that it's against his town meta, which is the opposite (extreme paranoia and blind tunnelling of people he suspects). But I think he might actually be more likely to make a switch like that as town instead of mafia. That is, I feel like the big reversal into being overly-trusting of people or overly-willing to clear them is more likely to be motivated by "hey the blind paranoia thing didn't work the last few games, maybe I should try something new" instead of "surely this will fool everyone into thinking I am town".

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:33 am Have caught up \o/ main thing that stuck out to me:

@leetic

In Beans Mafia, you had me making GtH reads on people regardless of what they posted, even in an introduction stage like this. Checking back it was like . A few posts in you asked for GtH on what people had said so far?

What sets this game apart so that what people have posted isnt useful compared to Beans where it didn't matter what people had posted, you could still make some reads? ?_?

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:26 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:23 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:21 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:00 pm

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:55 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:30 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:01 am
What did you expect instead?
For me looks like the silence before the storm and I liked what I read.

I expected some enlightenment even on a small scale I figured I'd find a town or two

But I got literally nothing

Wolfy (that said gth Abbi is town but I dont adore this post)

Why? Am I supposed to lie and make up a read?

No, ofcourse not

I just would have expected you to have already found a town or two without making it up, as I think thread was more enlightening then you made it seem; I already got various reads at least

Not strong ones, sure, but usually I'm not this far ahead in # of reads

How is incessant arguing about Sabi not wanting to be here

A bunch of slank covers and some really bad memes enlightening?

WWA and Cape have been townie
Nutella and Sabi have been wolfie

Thats enlightening

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:39 pm Also explain the sabi read bc i feel like theyve made some legit reads despite not being enthusiastic about the game and i liked their take on leetic in particular

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:34 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.

It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.

Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.

My knee jerk reaction is that it's against his town meta, which is the opposite (extreme paranoia and blind tunnelling of people he suspects). But I think he might actually be more likely to make a switch like that as town instead of mafia. That is, I feel like the big reversal into being overly-trusting of people or overly-willing to clear them is more likely to be motivated by "hey the blind paranoia thing didn't work the last few games, maybe I should try something new" instead of "surely this will fool everyone into thinking I am town".

Disagree

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:41 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:39 pm Also explain the sabi read bc i feel like theyve made some legit reads despite not being enthusiastic about the game and i liked their take on leetic in particular

What was there to "like" about their take on me? It's basically whining over me calling out their attitude

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:18 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:31 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:05 am Leetic coming off as lamist complaining about lack of game content but not actually answering the question. Giving scum pings due to unable to be comfortable in thread

Shrugze.

"LAMIST" is the dumbest "tell" ever, as if people who roll town don't know their alignment

Yet all you have done is bellyache about content without being the change you seek in the world and also not explaining the few things you thought was game related content.

Soooooo am I wrong?

Also frozen wolves that don't feel comfy do tend to overly critique the post type of rvs stage since they are unable to justify their tmi when trying to make game related content.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:42 pm Interesting web of pushes btwn Guillo -> Caitlin, Caitlin -> Abigail, Alison -> Abigail

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:42 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:41 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:39 pm Also explain the sabi read bc i feel like theyve made some legit reads despite not being enthusiastic about the game and i liked their take on leetic in particular

What was there to "like" about their take on me? It's basically whining over me calling out their attitude

It was specifically the point that wolves can be resistant to making rvs reads because tmi can slip through or something idk

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:34 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.

It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.

Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.

My knee jerk reaction is that it's against his town meta, which is the opposite (extreme paranoia and blind tunnelling of people he suspects). But I think he might actually be more likely to make a switch like that as town instead of mafia. That is, I feel like the big reversal into being overly-trusting of people or overly-willing to clear them is more likely to be motivated by "hey the blind paranoia thing didn't work the last few games, maybe I should try something new" instead of "surely this will fool everyone into thinking I am town".

Disagree

what exactly do you disagree on?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:43 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:42 pm Interesting web of pushes btwn Guillo -> Caitlin, Caitlin -> Abigail, Alison -> Abigail

what is interesting about it?

you know scum loves the word "interesting" a lot right?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:43 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:42 pm Interesting web of pushes btwn Guillo -> Caitlin, Caitlin -> Abigail, Alison -> Abigail

what is interesting about it?

you know scum loves the word "interesting" a lot right?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:18 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:31 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:05 am Leetic coming off as lamist complaining about lack of game content but not actually answering the question. Giving scum pings due to unable to be comfortable in thread

Shrugze.

"LAMIST" is the dumbest "tell" ever, as if people who roll town don't know their alignment

Yet all you have done is bellyache about content without being the change you seek in the world and also not explaining the few things you thought was game related content.

Soooooo am I wrong?

Also frozen wolves that don't feel comfy do tend to overly critique the post type of rvs stage since they are unable to justify their tmi when trying to make game related content.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:44 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:42 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:34 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:13 pm Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.

It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.

Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.

My knee jerk reaction is that it's against his town meta, which is the opposite (extreme paranoia and blind tunnelling of people he suspects). But I think he might actually be more likely to make a switch like that as town instead of mafia. That is, I feel like the big reversal into being overly-trusting of people or overly-willing to clear them is more likely to be motivated by "hey the blind paranoia thing didn't work the last few games, maybe I should try something new" instead of "surely this will fool everyone into thinking I am town".

Disagree

what exactly do you disagree on?

I don't think you have the inclination to make such an intentional change in approaches to reads as Alison is suggesting

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:42 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:39 pm So why would she hint at it here?

Because it was a genuine thought. She genuinely did intend to remind Caitlin the game started, for completely innocuous reasons. That thought slipped out because it was an honest thought with no malicious intent. It's no different from saying "alright guys I'm going out for dinner, see you all later" in her mind. Scum say things like that all the time, it's just a part of normal posting/interaction. The slip was that she didn't realize the thought wouldn't materialize if she was town, and even if it did, she would react to me calling it out far less weirdly.

For example I think that town Abigail who actually didn't know it was a rule would just say "oh my bad I didn't know it was a rule" instead of saying my post is stupid and not a big deal. It's a very defensive reaction.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:45 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:18 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:31 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:05 am Leetic coming off as lamist complaining about lack of game content but not actually answering the question. Giving scum pings due to unable to be comfortable in thread

Shrugze.

"LAMIST" is the dumbest "tell" ever, as if people who roll town don't know their alignment

Yet all you have done is bellyache about content without being the change you seek in the world and also not explaining the few things you thought was game related content.

Soooooo am I wrong?

Also frozen wolves that don't feel comfy do tend to overly critique the post type of rvs stage since they are unable to justify their tmi when trying to make game related content.

This @leetic

You critiqued rvs without making a push to create reads either

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:37 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:33 am Have caught up \o/ main thing that stuck out to me:

@leetic

In Beans Mafia, you had me making GtH reads on people regardless of what they posted, even in an introduction stage like this. Checking back it was like . A few posts in you asked for GtH on what people had said so far?

What sets this game apart so that what people have posted isnt useful compared to Beans where it didn't matter what people had posted, you could still make some reads? ?_?

My schedule now isn't as free as it was during that game. Once I have access to my laptop though, I may give a GTH to everyone that has posted

Caitlin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:41 pm I just feel like town!you would have more townreads, I dont believe that you have so little

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:52 pm He better not shoot me this year haha

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:48 pm How the fuck do I answer this?

I... don't think they are?

Nothing they've done sways be?

Sabi is actually towny?