The Syndicate

Turnip Head wrote:The way I saw it, Epi and Mongoose were barely responsible for dominating the discussion. It was everyone else that made their tiff a big deal. I've only played one game with Epi but it took me roughly 12 seconds to realize that he stirs the pot for reactions. He certainly gets some.

I'd like to hear more on this TH. does this cause you to look at anyone in particular?

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:See, this is the kind of disrespectful thing i dislike. No one likes someone saying "blahblah blah" to them. It's just rude.

I know i said Good night before, but now I really am done. Have fun redirecting the thread with rudeness and OT.

Your passion or anger will never convince me. You pulled that shit once. I bought it once and lost. I called you out on it and lynched your ass as bad.

Um, saying blahblah blah to people is rude You had no opinion on me until I pushed Mongoose to have one on you in a game with a Lie Detector. Then i was up to shenanigans. This has zero to do with passion or anger, only with what you have said.

Yeah, you're rude. That does not make me bad.

I totally missed the fact that we have a Lie Detector role. I'm not sure I can really visualize how this mechanic/power plays out. Which role is this anyway? I might be very tired but I'm looking at the role list and I can't figure out who it would be.

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:See, this is the kind of disrespectful thing i dislike. No one likes someone saying "blahblah blah" to them. It's just rude.

I know i said Good night before, but now I really am done. Have fun redirecting the thread with rudeness and OT.

Your passion or anger will never convince me. You pulled that shit once. I bought it once and lost. I called you out on it and lynched your ass as bad.

Um, saying blahblah blah to people is rude You had no opinion on me until I pushed Mongoose to have one on you in a game with a Lie Detector. Then i was up to shenanigans. This has zero to do with passion or anger, only with what you have said.

Yeah, you're rude. That does not make me bad.

1. I'll say what I want to people. That's how this works, right? Any rule against people's perceptions of being rude? Nah.
2. I only voted Mongoose to see what she'd say. Her reaction makes me think she's bad. I hope more people vote for her.
3. The shenanigans comment was a joke based on what I've seen other people say. And you went nuts over it. Very well then.

I like my method of playing. Saying bullshit and getting people to respond. It works well, wouldn't you say?

blah blah blah

S~V~S wrote:blah blah blah

Aw, now don't be rude.

Which role is the LD?

Nevermind I finally found it.

(Jurt Angle, if anyone else was wondering)

The shenanigans comment did not feel like a joke~ it felt like you were threatened by what i said.

that was @ Epi btw

Once again I say~ Mongoose says that Epi must know she is a civ, yet voted for her anyhow.

Yet she cannot/will not make a definitive statement on whether or not she thinks he is a civvie.

If she has no info as to this, what she says will not be prejudicial.

S~V~S wrote:The shenanigans comment did not feel like a joke~ it felt like you were threatened by what i said.

Never threatened by you or what you say.

I actually feel sad that you didn't get the joke. Given Lost.

Well, you can paint me as a humorless old biddy who did not get your joke, but most people who know me know I am pretty fucking raucous in the right circumstances.

Matahari wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:The way I saw it, Epi and Mongoose were barely responsible for dominating the discussion. It was everyone else that made their tiff a big deal. I've only played one game with Epi but it took me roughly 12 seconds to realize that he stirs the pot for reactions. He certainly gets some.

I'd like to hear more on this TH. does this cause you to look at anyone in particular?

It caused me to look at Summer, whom I made a post about. It seems though that this post from MR is actually the one that led us down this path (finally found it):

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Mongoose, I don't believe you ever answered my question on the previous page.

Why do you feel Epi voted for you?

Sorry, I totally missed that.

I am not sure, but they are motivated reasons. He can read me pretty good as civ when hardly anyone else did (Exhibit A: The Island over on RM), so I'm pretty sure he knows I'm not bad.

So you essentially say he knows you're not bad. Now, I don't want to put words in your mouth, so I'll ask: that should also suggest to you that he knows this because he's bad, correct?

Yet you're hardly confronting him head on about this and building a case or even placing your vote and confidence in that direction?

I think people are misinterpreting what Mongoose said here - that Epi's reasons for voting her were motivated - as some sort of weird sign that Epi knows her role 100% and is thus bad. I don't think that's what Mongoose was trying to say here. I think she meant that she knew Epi was doing what he did in order to gauge reactions. I agree with her on this point. I think people are taking her words the wrong way and using it to fuel a battle between the two of them. MR says he doesn't want to put words in Mongoose's mouth, but... that's kind of exactly what he did here. And now it's a thing.

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Phil Collins is meh.

Cool story bro. Thoughts on the game?

None.

TH, thanks. Fwiw, I agree about MR's possible intentions. I feel like he is asking leading questions, which I see as an attempt to start something rolling. I may vote him since I can't make a comfortable decision about the other cards on the table.

Concert was SO AMAZING!!!

Wow. I am tired. Alright... going to attempt to catch up quickly enough to make a voting decision.

Okay everyone, WTF is with the spread out vote???

I meant to properly catch u and vote tonight, but I fell asleep because my ear was hurting and laid down earlier. I am concerned now that I may be coming down with an ear infection... What is going on with my health this month, it is just getting ridiculous!

Anyway, looking at the poll I think this does not look good for civs. No one has more than two votes?! I think I will vote for a self voter this round since I am not appealed by any of the people who have two votes at the moment...

*votes Lizzy*

Matahari wrote:TH, thanks. Fwiw, I agree about MR's possible intentions. I feel like he is asking leading questions, which I see as an attempt to start something rolling. I may vote him since I can't make a comfortable decision about the other cards on the table.

You would be making a bad decision by voting for me.

By the by, did you ever respond to my quoting of you? Or is that too leading? Would you prefer to stay out of the spotlight for today?

Sorsha wrote:What about getting it tied between Mongoose and Epi and letting the flip of the coin decide?

I considered this, but I don't know if I like randomizing between 3 people.

Also: Why did Bass vote the deadies option??

Crap, I'm afraid I properly won't catch up in time.

Anyway, I was thinking Summer, Dom, or S~V~S before I left, honestly. Probably will go one of those ways because I don't want to touch Epig or Mongoose (also I don't get why Elo has two votes?). Summer seems really noncommittal to me in a fake sort of way, whereas Dom and S~V~S seemed to be manipulating the thread more than anyone else, honestly, but of course that comes down to my perception -- none of these things are that strong at all, but so far (on page 11), I haven't seen anything else that has struck me.

I do think TH made some good points about Summer and I might just go that way.

Is there anyone else around who hasn't voted??

Turnip Head wrote:
I think people are misinterpreting what Mongoose said here - that Epi's reasons for voting her were motivated - as some sort of weird sign that Epi knows her role 100% and is thus bad. I don't think that's what Mongoose was trying to say here. I think she meant that she knew Epi was doing what he did in order to gauge reactions. I agree with her on this point. I think people are taking her words the wrong way and using it to fuel a battle between the two of them. MR says he doesn't want to put words in Mongoose's mouth, but... that's kind of exactly what he did here. And now it's a thing.

Read the post again. There's hardly any other way to confront her than to use those words. And I wasn't about to give her a chance to backtrack later on semantics.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay everyone, WTF is with the spread out vote???

I just spread the vote even more. Voted MR.

What do you think the spread out vote means? Do you think it was planned somehow?

MR, I don't think you directed the post about me to me. You directed it to the thread in general. If you want to ask me about the posts I made, then ask, I'll answer.

Wow, lots happened while I was at the concert; in quick review, looks like most of it is obfuscating ooc. A Person strikes me as being very blendy and keeping a lot of posts ooc, and the self vote is also pingy. Voting AP.

Whoa, five-way tie.

TH, did you vote yet?

Matahari wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay everyone, WTF is with the spread out vote???

I just spread the vote even more. Voted MR.

What do you think the spread out vote means? Do you think it was planned somehow?

MR, I don't think you directed the post about me to me. You directed it to the thread in general. If you want to ask me about the posts I made, then ask, I'll answer.

Wouldn't want to throw a "leading question" at you or anything.

And I know you didn't ask me, but my opinion: The split vote is because it's Day 1 in a 30 player game and nobody knows wtf to make of anything yet. Couple that with the possibility that there may not be any baddie teams who have been pressured into saving one of their own. I'm increasingly nervous that only one of the most-vote-getters is bad, or even worse, that none of them are.

I've not voted yet, but I'm not sure I see myself voting for anyone in the 5-way tie :/

Wow, I did catch up in time!

I guess I want to give Summer the BOTD; I know she is playing on a site with new players and a new mafia style, so I understand not feeling definitive any which way on anyone... especially since I feel nearly that way myself. I am definitely keeping an eye on her, but I'm not sure she's really being manipulative.

I can never see eye to eye with S~V~S, so I can't read her at all (although I like to think I can), and since she doesn't have a vote anyway, I guess I won't bother with her today. I don't understand her vote for Devin either, but I guess that's a difference in perspective.

I think I will go with Dom. I do think out of anyone, he did seem to latch onto Mongoose subtly and his posts have made me feel not good about him so far. It's not much, but... I can't think of anyone else with 1 or 2 votes I'd rather vote right now.

Alright, well, voting Dom then.

Will address a few other things in a moment here, then bedtime, because I am wiped.

Turnip Head wrote:I've not voted yet, but I'm not sure I see myself voting for anyone in the 5-way tie :/

Agreed.

But I just said about the same thing, so of course I do. :P

Turnip Head wrote:I've not voted yet, but I'm not sure I see myself voting for anyone in the 5-way tie :/

Agreed, they were weak candidates, all of them. I hate to make it a bigger tie, but I just do not feel suspicious of any of those players right now.

Matahari wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay everyone, WTF is with the spread out vote???

I just spread the vote even more. Voted MR.

What do you think the spread out vote means? Do you think it was planned somehow?

MR, I don't think you directed the post about me to me. You directed it to the thread in general. If you want to ask me about the posts I made, then ask, I'll answer.

I think the spread vote means people who planned on voting Epig or Mongoose or Devin, most significantly Mongoose, backed off because they feared garnering too much suspicion.

Either that or her team is saving her.

Considering my reads on everyone thus far, definitely leaning the first option.

Sorsha wrote:
I am leaning towards MP with my vote today. I finally caught up with the thread and really can't make heads or tails of the little things that players are picking each other apart for.

After k4j pointed out my "I am a civvie" post MP made this post:

MovingPictures07 wrote:For the record, K4J, I agree with you regarding Sorsha's post; it seemed unnecessary to me, as if she's trying too hard. BUT I have heard of games where those types of statements were "checkable", so maybe it's possible. Seems rarer to me though and kind of pointless, but I suppose her post could be completely legit. I don't THINK I've ever played one where statements that blatant were checkable by a lie detector role though.

Consequently, I'm not sure her post really means anything at all. I don't think it really tells me anything, especially this early in the game. But, out of curiosity, do others agree here with my assessment and was anyone else wildly pinged by that statement?

After I read it the first time I thought he agreed with k4j which pinged me... it just doesn't seem very civvie-MP to me to jump on something like "Oh yeah, I thought that too".... but then to go on and just be so.... wishy washy about it. Once he was called on it he said he didn't think I was suspicious. I guess reading his post it could go either way. Its just weird to me.

As I clarified, just because I agreed it was of note or "odd" doesn't mean I found it suspicious.

It tells me nothing of your alignment, but I did think it was odd. There's a difference.

Hopefully that helps to clarify.

Epignosis wrote:MP said I was an Independent one game. I cannot recall when that was. He said:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, as to Epig suspecting you, K4J, this is not out of character for him.

I'll never forget in a game over on RM when he did the same thing to Rose and I gunned after him, then did a complete 180 on him and his behavior thereafter had me convinced he was civvie... Turns out he was independent.

What game was this? I cannot recall an independent role.

Video Game Mafia! Before the reset.

Hey guys I'm currently on page 12 of my catch up. Sorry! I think I'll miss the poll because I refuse to vote without reading the whole thread.

I wanna have some fun with this.

*votes TH*

Quick TH, now vote for me and we can both ride the magic wheel of doom!

I'll add Devin to the tie. He hasn't said much lately but the tone of his posts earlier in the game had me suspicious of him, and I feel stronger about voting for him than for anyone who currently has 2 votes (Elo, lizzy, Epi, mongoose, a person)

*votes Devin*

Linki: why me, MR???? 0_0

Linki: okay lol

To break the tie.... Or to not break the tie...

Sorsha wrote:To break the tie.... Or to not break the tie...

Turnip Head wrote:I'll add Devin to the tie. He hasn't said much lately but the tone of his posts earlier in the game had me suspicious of him, and I feel stronger about voting for him than for anyone who currently has 2 votes (Elo, lizzy, Epi, mongoose, a person)

*votes Devin*

Linki: why me, MR???? 0_0

Linki: okay lol

You feel more strongly about Devin than Summer?

Interesting.

Why?

Anyway, I'm going to bed now. See you all tomorrow!!

Well I guess I won't be breaking any tie if I don't make it back in time.. Guess I'll update my time zone then....

Loulou26 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I mean, really. She said she thinks Epi must know shes a civ. Yet he votes for her anyhow.

How could she think he's civvie? But she keep waffling on this point. WHY would she think that a civvie who knows shes a civvie would vote for her in that fashion?

Linki, more green, lol

So are you thinking she's a baddie? Or he is?

Maybe both.
However, I feel a little bit stronger about Epig.

Epignosis wrote:
Staged?

Me taking up thread attention...makes me bad...

I love new folks.

How dismissive of you...
Please, explain your ethos and logos in this post.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Crap, I'm afraid I properly won't catch up in time.

Anyway, I was thinking Summer, Dom, or S~V~S before I left, honestly. Probably will go one of those ways because I don't want to touch Epig or Mongoose (also I don't get why Elo has two votes?). Summer seems really noncommittal to me in a fake sort of way, whereas Dom and S~V~S seemed to be manipulating the thread more than anyone else, honestly, but of course that comes down to my perception -- none of these things are that strong at all, but so far (on page 11), I haven't seen anything else that has struck me.

I do think TH made some good points about Summer and I might just go that way.

Is there anyone else around who hasn't voted??

I'm gonna say that I don't feel like I'm manipulating the thread at all... I've hardly had time to really post.
What do yo think of Epig?

I also apologize for missing the vote, but I have two finals tomorrow :/ forgive me

MP my suspicions of Summer were lessened after I found her responses to me to be logical and genuine. There were still some things about her posts that seem suspicious but nothing I felt comfortable voting on at the moment. She seems like an active and logical player so I don't want to get her lynched especially being so unsure about her. Devin struck me as less genuine than Sumz.

Phew! Looks like somebody's got your back, Mattmatt.

Well that's an interesting result... :/

Cool! We get to do this all over again tomorrow!

Alrighty then! Very strange result, especially after an 8-way tie.....Should have been a 9-way tie, but forgetting to vote despite posting my intention to do so is quickly becoming my calling card, which I hate.