The Syndicate

Phoenix wrote:I'll go with Dazzler - she volunteered, but doesn't seem absolutely desperate to get it, which would be more suspicious, at least to me. Plus, despite our speculation, we still don't know exactly what will happen. Let's see how this plays out.

Spiral wrote:

Hawkeye wrote:

Spiral wrote: Why the hell are you discussing the secrets of a civilian role?

I believe it’s called trying to be helpful. See, I would normally agree with you if I concluded that my brief discussion would result in endangering said civilian or any other civilians for that matter, but having weighed the pros and cons of such an undertaking, I considered that openly discussing it, along with the rest of the roles with secrets would provide us a better understanding of the game mechanics. If you manage to provide a setting where the fact that I discussed Storm’s secret endangers any civilian (note that this is a game with heavy voting manipulation, so a lynch switch or whatever would go undetected), I’ll plead guilty and you can go ahead and take me out for attempting to endanger or expose one or more civilians. Let’s assume, for the sake of discussion, that ‘altering the weather’ does indeed mean what I have described in my previous post. Do you think that a team of 7 would not reach the same conclusion, because you know, it’s pretty much common sense? Or maybe you guys haven’t discussed it this yet, in which case I do apologize. Do you think that a person who survives a lynch would not be an automatic night target either because they are a powerful civilian or to have the baddies check if they do indeed have Apocalypse in the bag? Of course you’d think the same if you actually took a few seconds to rationalize this, instead of trying to come across as very offended and self-righteous in what I consider an aggressive manner. I would buy it if you were Storm and you’d consider that my discussing your secrets could somehow expose you. However, the very fact that out of my entire post you’ve chosen to single out one role in particular to make you look good, tells me that you have nothing to do with that particular, and perhaps the reason is that I might have struck a chord and I’m exposing you or one of your teammates. I see no discussion about the independents and the baddie with secrets, for which you are very welcome. In case you haven’t bothered to read my posts, I like to rely on logic, common sense and what facts I can pick up from people’s posts in order to make what I consider rational judgments. Plus, I like to get some reactions. Thank you for that. And if it’s all right with you, I’ll have to keep an eye on you.

That being said, I don’t want to end this post in a bellicose manner.

Very nice way of saying you suspect me because I dared question you. In addition, the other role you discussed was Mystique-- a baddie role.

Marrow wrote:I've been busy for the last day and a half, sorry for missing the vote. I can definitely say that I wouldn't of voted for Thunderbird. Not a fan of that case. I'll throw Mojo a vote.

Havok wrote:Why is it that people feel good about Mojo? I don't see it. I could understand if you said you felt neutral about him...I don't feel neutral, but I could see how others might arrive at that point..but I certainly don't know why someone would feel "good" about him.

Am I missing something?

Havok wrote:Wait what? There's no :O smiley??? :O :O :O

White Queen wrote: Link @ Avalanche, perhaps Psylocke did not agree with you, although I also think she was more likely to be civvvie than not, so the manipulation scenario is a distinct possibility.

Quicksilver wrote:Rip Scarlet Witch :/ I didn't feel you were bad either, so maybe Psylocke's attack got redirected?

Avalanche wrote:

Quicksilver wrote:Rip Scarlet Witch :/ I didn't feel you were bad either, so maybe Psylocke's attack got redirected?

I said that already. You are a baddie, so the least you could do is not copy me.

White Queen wrote:I feel pretty good about Mojo, so will vote to give it to him.

Avalanche wrote:

Quicksilver wrote:Rip Scarlet Witch :/ I didn't feel you were bad either, so maybe Psylocke's attack got redirected?

I said that already. You are a baddie, so the least you could do is not copy me.

Polaris wrote:

Avalanche wrote:

Quicksilver wrote:Rip Scarlet Witch :/ I didn't feel you were bad either, so maybe Psylocke's attack got redirected?

I said that already. You are a baddie, so the least you could do is not copy me.

I know you're joking around (I hope), but you do realize two people already brought the idea forth before you did.

Polaris wrote:That was kind of an odd kill. Anyone else believe that there might have been some sort of manipulation last night?

White Queen wrote:And you know that how?

Sebastian Shaw wrote:I think Psylocke helped the good guys. Well done, Psylocke.

Goodbye Scarlet Witch.

Polaris wrote:That was kind of an odd kill. Anyone else believe that there might have been some sort of manipulation last night?

So do you think the Scarlet Witch was good? Why?

White Queen wrote:I don't necessarily agree with the suspicion he took earlier, I felt it was blown out of proportion. He volunteered for it, and I had less of an opinion about the others who asked for it. I do trust some people more, but did not want to give it to someone who did not want it. So I felt good enough about Mojo to vote to give it to him.

Sebastian Shaw wrote:I think Psylocke helped the good guys. Well done, Psylocke.

Goodbye Scarlet Witch.

Polaris wrote:That was kind of an odd kill. Anyone else believe that there might have been some sort of manipulation last night?

So do you think the Scarlet Witch was good? Why?

Dazzler wrote:I think it's possible Quicksilver was saved yesterday, so I think I'll start today by looking into him and the Thunderbird voters. I didn't think there was really much of a case against T-Bird anyway. I find it very curious that he went from having one vote (and therefore in no danger of being lynched) to quickly gaining another four and getting lynched. This is just a flyby post, I'll be back later to elaborate.

Sebastian Shaw wrote:I think Psylocke helped the good guys. Well done, Psylocke.

Goodbye Scarlet Witch.

Polaris wrote:That was kind of an odd kill. Anyone else believe that there might have been some sort of manipulation last night?

So do you think the Scarlet Witch was good? Why?

I know this wasn't directed at me but really I hadn't seen anything to make me think Scarlet Witch was definitely good. I didn't think she was bad though, and didn't see anything that would make me think she should be a civ ninja's target. Hopefully Psylocke saw something I didn't, as I think it's a bit strange in general for her to have used one of her only two kills so early in the game.

Quicksilver wrote:

Dazzler wrote:I think it's possible Quicksilver was saved yesterday, so I think I'll start today by looking into him and the Thunderbird voters. I didn't think there was really much of a case against T-Bird anyway. I find it very curious that he went from having one vote (and therefore in no danger of being lynched) to quickly gaining another four and getting lynched. This is just a flyby post, I'll be back later to elaborate.

Sebastian Shaw wrote:I think Psylocke helped the good guys. Well done, Psylocke.

Goodbye Scarlet Witch.

Polaris wrote:That was kind of an odd kill. Anyone else believe that there might have been some sort of manipulation last night?

So do you think the Scarlet Witch was good? Why?

I know this wasn't directed at me but really I hadn't seen anything to make me think Scarlet Witch was definitely good. I didn't think she was bad though, and didn't see anything that would make me think she should be a civ ninja's target. Hopefully Psylocke saw something I didn't, as I think it's a bit strange in general for her to have used one of her only two kills so early in the game.

I was saves because i already had suspicion on me to get lynched the next day. I think some voters on T bird were bad to try to get him out first and then me second.
Who do you guys think should be examined from the voters? I know some of you think Avalanche is leadingyou the right direction, but hes wrong about me and will cause you to revevaluate what you think you know if i get lynched tomorrow.

Quicksilver wrote:

Dazzler wrote:I think it's possible Quicksilver was saved yesterday, so I think I'll start today by looking into him and the Thunderbird voters. I didn't think there was really much of a case against T-Bird anyway. I find it very curious that he went from having one vote (and therefore in no danger of being lynched) to quickly gaining another four and getting lynched. This is just a flyby post, I'll be back later to elaborate.

Sebastian Shaw wrote:I think Psylocke helped the good guys. Well done, Psylocke.

Goodbye Scarlet Witch.

Polaris wrote:That was kind of an odd kill. Anyone else believe that there might have been some sort of manipulation last night?

So do you think the Scarlet Witch was good? Why?

I know this wasn't directed at me but really I hadn't seen anything to make me think Scarlet Witch was definitely good. I didn't think she was bad though, and didn't see anything that would make me think she should be a civ ninja's target. Hopefully Psylocke saw something I didn't, as I think it's a bit strange in general for her to have used one of her only two kills so early in the game.

I was saves because i already had suspicion on me to get lynched the next day. I think some voters on T bird were bad to try to get him out first and then me second.
Who do you guys think should be examined from the voters? I know some of you think Avalanche is leadingyou the right direction, but hes wrong about me and will cause you to revevaluate what you think you know if i get lynched tomorrow.

Longshot wrote:If you have any questions for me just let me know.

Havok wrote:That's a fair point about the quick T-Bird votes. There are 7 members of the brotherhood. That's a large team. I could see 2-3 coming to Quicksilver's aid if QS is a brotherhood member. If it was a typically sized mafia team (3-4) I'd say that it was probably unlikely that it was a save, but with 7 members I see it as being more likely. Not saying that is what happened, but it certainly is possible.

Dazzler wrote:

Quicksilver wrote: I was saves because i already had suspicion on me to get lynched the next day. I think some voters on T bird were bad to try to get him out first and then me second.
Who do you guys think should be examined from the voters? I know some of you think Avalanche is leadingyou the right direction, but hes wrong about me and will cause you to revevaluate what you think you know if i get lynched tomorrow.

So for different reasons, we're agreed that T's voters could be bad? I can see where you're coming from tbh and though I may keep an eye on you I do really wonder about the T-Bird voters. Bear in mind though that any of them coming up bad will not help you look good. After I voted you, Longshot, yourself, and Bastion all came out to vote T-bird shortly after, tying things up between the two of you. Then right after Deadpool broke the tie again in favour of you (Quicksilver), Phoenix and Scarlet Witch showed up to put the final nails in Thunderbird's coffin. I think all his voters could do with a look. In all fairness, this is the view that comes from looking only at voting order, I can't remember how quickly the votes actually came in.

Hawkeye wrote:

Dazzler wrote:

Quicksilver wrote: I was saves because i already had suspicion on me to get lynched the next day. I think some voters on T bird were bad to try to get him out first and then me second.
Who do you guys think should be examined from the voters? I know some of you think Avalanche is leadingyou the right direction, but hes wrong about me and will cause you to revevaluate what you think you know if i get lynched tomorrow.

So for different reasons, we're agreed that T's voters could be bad? I can see where you're coming from tbh and though I may keep an eye on you I do really wonder about the T-Bird voters. Bear in mind though that any of them coming up bad will not help you look good. After I voted you, Longshot, yourself, and Bastion all came out to vote T-bird shortly after, tying things up between the two of you. Then right after Deadpool broke the tie again in favour of you (Quicksilver), Phoenix and Scarlet Witch showed up to put the final nails in Thunderbird's coffin. I think all his voters could do with a look. In all fairness, this is the view that comes from looking only at voting order, I can't remember how quickly the votes actually came in.

I can also see where Quicksilver is coming from, but doesn't his explanation strike you as something prefabricated and rehearsed at the last minute? Honestly, last time I ended up voting for him after reading his defense.