The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 12)

[blindfaeth]

My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

Would either of you like to explain this interaction?

BF, why the eye?

If you look three posts above my eye, I talk about how I find FZ fishy for investigating epi and llama and then saying they'll vote llama. Then immediately after LC did the same thing. Votes llama after analyzing epi. On the basis of llama is acting like civ llama.

[DharmaHelper]

Epi, has anything other than Elo caught your eye so far?

There's always something about Eloh that catches my eye. I'd not have married her otherwise.

In context of this, though? No. Nothing else.

Did Epig speak about Eloh's likely behaviour when she has potential for BTSC? My recollection is that he's really pushing how unlikely it is that she's one of those Old Rogues, while simultaneously pushing the idea that she's a New Rogue... but those roles have a very similar potential for BTSC.

And there seems to be seven roles that have no potential for BTSC, and four of them are ones we don't want to lynch.

And it's probably not worth mentioning that EVERYONE has potential for BTSC via the Map, since that's kind of random and fleeting for the most part.

I've said that I don't think she's read any of the role descriptions but her own.

As a fellow Mafia wife I don't like your assumptions here. Maybe she's playing it cool. LC can't always read me and certainly couldn't make assumptions this early in a game. Quite possibly she's out playing you here.

For future reference, I am not defending Eloh here, I'm just sticking it to the man.

She's not my Mafia wife. That would be DharmaHelper.

[Black Rock]

My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

Would either of you like to explain this interaction?

BF, why the eye?

If you look three posts above my eye, I talk about how I find FZ fishy for investigating epi and llama and then saying they'll vote llama. Then immediately after LC did the same thing. Votes llama after analyzing epi. On the basis of llama is acting like civ llama.

Oh ok, I read his post as he thought Llama was trying too hard to appear that way. I didn't see the connection between what he said and what FZ said. I don't find either of them suspicious for their posts, something has been a little too much from Llama this game. I'm not ready to vote him yet though.

She's not my Mafia wife. That would be DharmaHelper.

You know what I mean.

[blindfaeth]

I see what you're saying. He has definitely been over the top. I just don't believe that they genuinely think he is the best candidate for their vote at this point.

[Black Rock]

I see what you're saying. He has definitely been over the top. I just don't believe that they genuinely think he is the best candidate for their vote at this point.

Who do you think would be the best candidate at this point?

[blindfaeth]

I see what you're saying. He has definitely been over the top. I just don't believe that they genuinely think he is the best candidate for their vote at this point.

Who do you think would be the best candidate at this point?

Bullz or Epi. That doesn't mean everyone else has to think the same way. I just don't think their suspicion of llama over someone else is genuine.

[Long Con]

My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

Would either of you like to explain this interaction?

BF, why the eye?

If you look three posts above my eye, I talk about how I find FZ fishy for investigating epi and llama and then saying they'll vote llama. Then immediately after LC did the same thing. Votes llama after analyzing epi. On the basis of llama is acting like civ llama.

Was I supposed to vote Epignosis? That would have been weird, since I am suspicious of Llama, and not Epignosis. I was just pointing out what I thought was a flaw in his accusation of Elohcin - feel free to vote for me if you don't like *when* I do things, but I am not going to try to tailor my actions to try and look Civvie to blindfaeth. Maybe it's your methods that need your eyeball.

Linki: Well, the Llama thing is pretty genuine, and I'm perplexed by the way that you want to frame it as "voting Llama for acting Civvie" when the real reasons, set out in enough detail already, aren't conveyed by that statement. Do you understand the actual reasons why I voted for him?

[blindfaeth]

You said because he is deliberately acting how he did in xmen mafia where he was a civ. if I've misunderstood, please re explain. But that he's acting that way is an opinion, not solid evidence. Did you even investigate that assertion? If I recall correctly that was someone else's assessment.

There is no way to act civvie, so you're right, no need to worry about appearing some way to me.

[blindfaeth]

Wow, busy day.

Re llama, this is exactly what he did in X Men; that does not make him a civ (or an Old Rogue or what have you). It kinda makes him a hypocrite~ he is always screaming to kill low posters becasue they are not helping the home team with their lack or participation. But then, carrying on endlessly about Morlocks or Monkeys or whatever does not help anyone, either. I see DHs point; I want to see if, now that the pregame is over, Llama steps up to the plate.

Yeah, it was SVS stating it originally. Then you post this.

So llama is deliberately trying to act in such a way that is like a previous Civ game? Is that supposed to make us think he's Civ in this one? Kind of heavy handed.

And this.

My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

That's all you really say regarding him post day 0, so what other reason am I supposed to believe you had for voting him?

[Elohcin]

I am not catching up today. I've had a VERY busy Thursday. But I want to say this. I don't know Epi's role. I don't think he is a killer though so I don't think you all ought to lynch him. He knew I didn't want to play this game. I am already in LMS and I knew I was going to be very busy with work right now. Also, I am finishing up the school year with my kids and Simon is taking his first standardized test at the end of this year as he is now seven years old. So, as I hinted in sign-ups, I only signed up to get things moved along and to stop Epi from asking me to sign up so the game could begin. Now, if Epi were bad (knowing I didn't want to play) he could have waited until Night 1 or whatever (I don't really understand the dynamics of this game and who the mafia really are, but you get my drift) and he could have silently offed me and no one would be the wiser. No one would expect Epi to kill his wife so no one would suspect him as mafia/killer. But, he didn't do that. Why would he come out with a case against me if he could just kill me. Well, my guess is he can't kill and you are voting for him when you shouldn't be. So....please, vote someone else. Heck, if you are thinking EPI IS THE ONE TO VOTE FOR and I can't think of anyone else better than him....then vote ME instead. K?

[Turnip Head]

Turnip Head, I thought I asked this but it could be I forgot~ did you still want to be Epis sidekick?

Not really. The benefits package isn't as flashy as I expected it to be. I don't think Epi is bad at this time though. I don't think he'd be calling Elo out if he was, though I could be wrong.

[Epignosis]

Since it has been touched on already, and even though I was trying to be tactful, I will just spell it out.

I got lynched in HSK the day before spring break started for us. I had no Mafia during spring break (I'm sorry- I don't consider LMS Mafia), and was bummed. Flash had been in sign-ups for weeks. Eloh signed up so her pouting husband could have something fun to do. I decided I would kill her Night 1 if I could, or, if that couldn't happen, I would try to get her lynched.

That's right. My wife loves me, and I'm trying to kill her.

With her having no knowledge or interest in the theme, I figured that she would commit herself if she had BTSC, and I would have left her alone (well, in that case, I still might have Night killed her, but I can't).

I say this because I'm not trying to play the Eloh expert, distract you from talking about me, be mean-spirited by going after my wife Day 1, or whatever else I've been accused of doing. She has a gazillion cakes to make, and she signed up so I could play.

That's my hidden agenda.

Thus, here I am trying to remove a player who probably is not vested in this, and who I do not think has BTSC (and is therefore unlikely to be one of the six Old Rogues), and I'm the one with the most votes.

The irony is not lost on me.

Addendum.

[thellama73]

something has been a little too much from Llama this game.

Am I more llama than you can handle, BR?

[thellama73]

With her having no knowledge or interest in the theme, I figured that she would commit herself if she had BTSC, and I would have left her alone (well, in that case, I still might have Night killed her, but I can't).

Who the heck is the Flash anyway, and why is there a talking monkey? Am I right, Eloh?

[DharmaHelper]

A mercy kill on his wife is also an easy out for a baddie Epi to not bother making legitimate cases/efforts.

That is literally the first and last time I will address anything Epignosis related.

[thellama73]

Okay, so the knock against me is that people think I am trying too hard to act civvie. I get that. But at least I am not trying too hard to be bad like Bullzeye!

[Epignosis]

A mercy kill on his wife is also an easy out for a baddie Epi to not bother making legitimate cases/efforts.

That is literally the first and last time I will address anything Epignosis related.

That's great hon. Will you please get me a beer?

[Elohcin]

Okay, I lied, I started to catch up a little. I really should be sleeping. I am so sleepy. I got as far as page 13 but I am done for now.

Elohcin, do you think Epig is reading you correctly, regarding your game-involvement relating to your BTSC possibilities?

I think more recent posts from me (and Epi) answer this. He's probably right, I do tend to enjoy a good bts chatzy room. I like to talk to people. I don't have many good conversations with the women/moms I am around most of the time b/c we just don't have much in common despite the fact that we all homeschool. When you are not a military wife and you live in a military town, it is difficult to belong. Don't get me wrong, I respect military wives and I have a couple friends that are military wives, but most of them tend to shut themselves off to anyone who is NOT a military wife. ANYWAY.......I lead a very busy life. I am either homeschooling, working, or at band practice and when I am not, I am either trying to relax by watching netflix (which I pause a couple hundred times to do this or that) or I am mafiaing. So yes, it is nice to have a BTS team.

With her having no knowledge or interest in the theme, I figured that she would commit herself if she had BTSC, and I would have left her alone (well, in that case, I still might have Night killed her, but I can't).

Who the heck is the Flash anyway, and why is there a talking monkey? Am I right, Eloh?

Seriously? There's a talking monkey?

[Turnip Head]

Okay, so, hmm. What did Elo's response do for you, Epi? She basically asked us to lynch her instead of you, which doesn't seem like a great baddie tactic. I assume you still think she's worth lynching since she doesn't have time for the game, but do you legitimately suspect her of being bad? I don't think I do after seeing her response.

On the other hand, even if you don't have the ability to NK your wife as planned, there's only two baddies who have the ability to kill, and they don't have BTSC with the other baddies. So... your newly revealed motivation for lynching Elo doesn't really preclude you from being those other baddie roles. So... I'm on the fence about you now.

[Long Con]

You said because he is deliberately acting how he did in xmen mafia where he was a civ. if I've misunderstood, please re explain. But that he's acting that way is an opinion, not solid evidence. Did you even investigate that assertion? If I recall correctly that was someone else's assessment.

I didn't investigate that situation, you're right - I took it to be a truthful assessment of Llama's behaviour in X-Men, because neither he nor anyone else in that game argued it. He was asking to be King of the Morlocks in that game, and people got suspicious, and lynched him, and he was Civ. Now he's doing it in this game, and I see it as a heavy-handed way to get people to say "Well, that's clearly Civ behaviour, look what happened last time, we lynched a Civ!" I don't think it's the kind of tactic a Civvie would be using, I think it makes sense that he's a baddie that wants to play off a previous game to seem more Civvie.

Wow, busy day.

Re llama, this is exactly what he did in X Men; that does not make him a civ (or an Old Rogue or what have you). It kinda makes him a hypocrite~ he is always screaming to kill low posters becasue they are not helping the home team with their lack or participation. But then, carrying on endlessly about Morlocks or Monkeys or whatever does not help anyone, either. I see DHs point; I want to see if, now that the pregame is over, Llama steps up to the plate.

Yeah, it was SVS stating it originally. Then you post this.

So llama is deliberately trying to act in such a way that is like a previous Civ game? Is that supposed to make us think he's Civ in this one? Kind of heavy handed.

And this.

My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

That's all you really say regarding him post day 0, so what other reason am I supposed to believe you had for voting him?

No other reason. I don't need to make ten different posts to get this idea across.

[thellama73]

He was asking to be King of the Morlocks in that game, and people got suspicious, and lynched him, and he was Civ. Now he's doing it in this game, and I see it as a heavy-handed way to get people to say "Well, that's clearly Civ behaviour, look what happened last time, we lynched a Civ!" I don't think it's the kind of tactic a Civvie would be using, I think it makes sense that he's a baddie that wants to play off a previous game to seem more Civvie.

Did it ever occur to you that I just really liked being King of the Morlocks and am waxing nostalgic for a chance to relive my glory days?

[Turnip Head]

I don't believe Llama actually got lynched for his behavior in X-men, though I think he said he did. Wasn't the case though. He was NKed by the baddies, not lynched. Not sure if he's playing that up on purpose or if it was an oversight. He's definitely been lynched in other games for similar behavior.

[Epignosis]

Okay, so, hmm. What did Elo's response do for you, Epi? She basically asked us to lynch her instead of you, which doesn't seem like a great baddie tactic. I assume you still think she's worth lynching since she doesn't have time for the game, but do you legitimately suspect her of being bad? I don't think I do after seeing her response.

On the other hand, even if you don't have the ability to NK your wife as planned, there's only two baddies who have the ability to kill, and they don't have BTSC with the other baddies. So... your newly revealed motivation for lynching Elo doesn't really preclude you from being those other baddie roles. So... I'm on the fence about you now.

I don't know what to tell ya mate. I just wanted to play.

Is my math wrong if I'm right about her not having BTSC?

Was the purpose of this revelation meant to preclude me from being any of the non-killing evil roles?

[Long Con]

He was asking to be King of the Morlocks in that game, and people got suspicious, and lynched him, and he was Civ. Now he's doing it in this game, and I see it as a heavy-handed way to get people to say "Well, that's clearly Civ behaviour, look what happened last time, we lynched a Civ!" I don't think it's the kind of tactic a Civvie would be using, I think it makes sense that he's a baddie that wants to play off a previous game to seem more Civvie.

Did it ever occur to you that I just really liked being King of the Morlocks and am waxing nostalgic for a chance to relive my glory days?

No.. that never occurred to me because I was under the impression that you got lynched for campaigning to be the King of the Morlocks, so you wouldn't have actually BECOME the King of the Morlocks, and would have had no glory days to relive because of it.

I don't believe Llama actually got lynched for his behavior in X-men, though I think he said he did. Wasn't the case though. He was NKed by the baddies, not lynched. Not sure if he's playing that up on purpose or if it was an oversight. He's definitely been lynched in other games for similar behavior.

Food for thought. Clearly there is more to look into here. Good thing votes are changeable, I'd like to have an accurate synopsis of what actually happened before I commit to anything.

[thellama73]

He was asking to be King of the Morlocks in that game, and people got suspicious, and lynched him, and he was Civ. Now he's doing it in this game, and I see it as a heavy-handed way to get people to say "Well, that's clearly Civ behaviour, look what happened last time, we lynched a Civ!" I don't think it's the kind of tactic a Civvie would be using, I think it makes sense that he's a baddie that wants to play off a previous game to seem more Civvie.

Did it ever occur to you that I just really liked being King of the Morlocks and am waxing nostalgic for a chance to relive my glory days?

No.. that never occurred to me because I was under the impression that you got lynched for campaigning to be the King of the Morlocks, so you wouldn't have actually BECOME the King of the Morlocks, and would have had no glory days to relive because of it.

Oh I was king all right. Oh, what a king I was.


I actually wasn't lynched or NKed in X-Men. I survived until the end, but lost due to a technicality. A quick site search for "Morlocks" will reveal this and many amusing posts by me.

[Turnip Head]

Is my math wrong if I'm right about her not having BTSC?

Was the purpose of this revelation meant to preclude me from being any of the non-killing evil roles?

Your math could be right, sure... but at the end of the Day the math doesn't mean anything if she isn't bad. I watched you argue for days in Death Note mafia to lynch FZ, and your math overwhelmingly supported FZ being bad, and yet she wasn't. I guess I'm just more interested in reading Elo as a player rather than following any math probabilities that could point to her alignment. And her responses have made me feel much better about her today than I did yesterday.

I'm not sure what the purpose of your revelation was, but it let me know that your motivations for lynching Elo weren't pure within the context of the game. And I just wanted to point out that simply not having an NK at your disposal doesn't automatically make you an Old or Indy Rogue, that's all.

linki @ Llama: You WERE NK'ed in X-men, and then Elo (a civvie as well) rezzed you back into the game. That's how much we DIDN'T lynch you for wanting to be King of the Morlocks :P

[Tangrowth]

Turnip Head!!!!!

What are you doing still playing this game? Your Champions game starts soon.

:P

[Turnip Head]

Turnip Head!!!!!

What are you doing still playing this game? Your Champions game starts soon.

:P

I'm giving this game everything I've got until the Champs game starts, at which point I inevitably won't have time for anything else :P

[Tangrowth]

Turnip Head!!!!!

What are you doing still playing this game? Your Champions game starts soon.

:P

I'm giving this game everything I've got until the Champs game starts, at which point I inevitably won't have time for anything else :P

Makes sense to me. Lol.

[DharmaHelper]

Gosh remember Death Note Mafia when Epi was so right about Me, Llama, AND FZ? Remember how fun that was :P

[Tangrowth]

Gosh remember Death Note Mafia when Epi was so right about Me, Llama, AND FZ? Remember how fun that was :P

[Epignosis]

Is my math wrong if I'm right about her not having BTSC?

Was the purpose of this revelation meant to preclude me from being any of the non-killing evil roles?

Your math could be right, sure... but at the end of the Day the math doesn't mean anything if she isn't bad. I watched you argue for days in Death Note mafia to lynch FZ, and your math overwhelmingly supported FZ being bad, and yet she wasn't. I guess I'm just more interested in reading Elo as a player rather than following any math probabilities that could point to her alignment. And her responses have made me feel much better about her today than I did yesterday.

I'm not sure what the purpose of your revelation was, but it let me know that your motivations for lynching Elo weren't pure within the context of the game. And I just wanted to point out that simply not having an NK at your disposal doesn't automatically make you an Old or Indy Rogue, that's all.

linki @ Llama: You WERE NK'ed in X-men, and then Elo (a civvie as well) rezzed you back into the game. That's how much we DIDN'T lynch you for wanting to be King of the Morlocks :P

All of that could have been avoided if Russtifinko hadn't voted FZ. out of nowhere for no apparent reason.

And I had my reasons for voting FZ. even if I was wrong.

[Turnip Head]

All of that could have been avoided if Russtifinko hadn't voted FZ. out of nowhere for no apparent reason.

Truth, I'll give you that at least

[Epignosis]

Gosh remember Death Note Mafia when Epi was so right about Me, Llama, AND FZ? Remember how fun that was :P

I know. It really hurt me when you ended up winning.

[DharmaHelper]

I know my role, and I assume everyone here knows theirs as well (Depending on whether or not Made has opened his PM yet.)

So, I know Epi is not my role.

If you are a civvie or a non-baddie, you also know that Epi is not that role as well.

It is then mathematically 100% certain that Epi is a baddie, since he can't be my role and (see above) he can't be any of your roles.

[Epignosis]

I know my role, and I assume everyone here knows theirs as well (Depending on whether or not Made has opened his PM yet.)

So, I know Epi is not my role.

If you are a civvie or a non-baddie, you also know that Epi is not that role as well.

It is then mathematically 100% certain that Epi is a baddie, since he can't be my role and (see above) he can't be any of your roles.

That is literally the first and last time I will address anything Epignosis related.

You lying sack.

[DharmaHelper]

I know my role, and I assume everyone here knows theirs as well (Depending on whether or not Made has opened his PM yet.)

So, I know Epi is not my role.

If you are a civvie or a non-baddie, you also know that Epi is not that role as well.

It is then mathematically 100% certain that Epi is a baddie, since he can't be my role and (see above) he can't be any of your roles.

That is literally the first and last time I will address anything Epignosis related.

You lying sack.

Can't help myself

[Long Con]

Okay, I lied, I started to catch up a little. I really should be sleeping. I am so sleepy. I got as far as page 13 but I am done for now.

Elohcin, do you think Epig is reading you correctly, regarding your game-involvement relating to your BTSC possibilities?

I think more recent posts from me (and Epi) answer this. He's probably right, I do tend to enjoy a good bts chatzy room. I like to talk to people. I don't have many good conversations with the women/moms I am around most of the time b/c we just don't have much in common despite the fact that we all homeschool. When you are not a military wife and you live in a military town, it is difficult to belong. Don't get me wrong, I respect military wives and I have a couple friends that are military wives, but most of them tend to shut themselves off to anyone who is NOT a military wife. ANYWAY.......I lead a very busy life. I am either homeschooling, working, or at band practice and when I am not, I am either trying to relax by watching netflix (which I pause a couple hundred times to do this or that) or I am mafiaing. So yes, it is nice to have a BTS team.

I think your analysis of Epig's lack of a nightkill makes sense. However, that just suggests that he's not Plunder, he could still be one of the other baddies, because they don't have any say in the kill until they get BTSC with Plunder.

With her having no knowledge or interest in the theme, I figured that she would commit herself if she had BTSC, and I would have left her alone (well, in that case, I still might have Night killed her, but I can't).

Who the heck is the Flash anyway, and why is there a talking monkey? Am I right, Eloh?

Seriously? There's a talking monkey?

Whoa... this monkey is talking now??!

[thellama73]

Whoa... this monkey is talking now??!

Not just talking, dancing!

[Turnip Head]

Clearly Llama has spent time googling pictures of Grodd. His infatuation with the monkey is getting to be quite creepy...

[Sophie]

Since it has been touched on already, and even though I was trying to be tactful, I will just spell it out.

I got lynched in HSK the day before spring break started for us. I had no Mafia during spring break (I'm sorry- I don't consider LMS Mafia), and was bummed. Flash had been in sign-ups for weeks. Eloh signed up so her pouting husband could have something fun to do. I decided I would kill her Night 1 if I could, or, if that couldn't happen, I would try to get her lynched.

That's right. My wife loves me, and I'm trying to kill her.

With her having no knowledge or interest in the theme, I figured that she would commit herself if she had BTSC, and I would have left her alone (well, in that case, I still might have Night killed her, but I can't).

I say this because I'm not trying to play the Eloh expert, distract you from talking about me, be mean-spirited by going after my wife Day 1, or whatever else I've been accused of doing. She has a gazillion cakes to make, and she signed up so I could play.

That's my hidden agenda.

Thus, here I am trying to remove a player who probably is not vested in this, and who I do not think has BTSC (and is therefore unlikely to be one of the six Old Rogues), and I'm the one with the most votes.

The irony is not lost on me.

Addendum.

i understand the elo being busy with RL stuff bit, but what i dont get is you being so adamant to lynch her, if you think she isnt bad. Even if she is and will be busy, if she is a civvie, i rather try to lynch a baddie, today, tomorrow, and all game. I know uninvolved civvies do not help and, heck, im always against low posters in most games, but this is the first day and maybe elo can find time later to get involved in this. I dont think if wise for you to want to lynch her just cause she is busy. In any case, lets try to find something with the lynch, or try to at least vote for someone you think could be bad. but thinking that elo is good and try to lynch her, even if i understand your RL reasons, isnt wise for this game, imo.

this all assumming you and her are civvie, wich i dont know. but i wanted to point this out as soon as i was catching up and stumble upon this post.

[DharmaHelper]

No no, I did the math you guys.

[Epignosis]

No no, I did the math you guys.

Ohm doesn't want to have children, does he?

[DharmaHelper]

No no, I did the math you guys.

Ohm doesn't want to have children, does he?

Do you have a vested interest in refuting my maths?

[Epignosis]

No no, I did the math you guys.

Ohm doesn't want to have children, does he?

Do you have a vested interest in refuting my maths?

I'm going to bed dude. I'm tired.

[Epignosis]

Oh, and tell leggy I'll have chapter 4 for her tomorrow, will ya?

[Epignosis]

Since it has been touched on already, and even though I was trying to be tactful, I will just spell it out.

I got lynched in HSK the day before spring break started for us. I had no Mafia during spring break (I'm sorry- I don't consider LMS Mafia), and was bummed. Flash had been in sign-ups for weeks. Eloh signed up so her pouting husband could have something fun to do. I decided I would kill her Night 1 if I could, or, if that couldn't happen, I would try to get her lynched.

That's right. My wife loves me, and I'm trying to kill her.

With her having no knowledge or interest in the theme, I figured that she would commit herself if she had BTSC, and I would have left her alone (well, in that case, I still might have Night killed her, but I can't).

I say this because I'm not trying to play the Eloh expert, distract you from talking about me, be mean-spirited by going after my wife Day 1, or whatever else I've been accused of doing. She has a gazillion cakes to make, and she signed up so I could play.

That's my hidden agenda.

Thus, here I am trying to remove a player who probably is not vested in this, and who I do not think has BTSC (and is therefore unlikely to be one of the six Old Rogues), and I'm the one with the most votes.

The irony is not lost on me.

Addendum.

i understand the elo being busy with RL stuff bit, but what i dont get is you being so adamant to lynch her, if you think she isnt bad. Even if she is and will be busy, if she is a civvie, i rather try to lynch a baddie, today, tomorrow, and all game. I know uninvolved civvies do not help and, heck, im always against low posters in most games, but this is the first day and maybe elo can find time later to get involved in this. I dont think if wise for you to want to lynch her just cause she is busy. In any case, lets try to find something with the lynch, or try to at least vote for someone you think could be bad. but thinking that elo is good and try to lynch her, even if i understand your RL reasons, isnt wise for this game, imo.

this all assumming you and her are civvie, wich i dont know. but i wanted to point this out as soon as i was catching up and stumble upon this post.

[Sophie]

what, epi?

[FZ.]

I'm not liking the most recent couple of posts from fz that I've seen.

Fz analyzed Epi and llama and says will probably vote llama. I'm not buying it. The thoughts for Epi were more concrete and all fz had to say about llama is that he's acting exactly like civvie llama.

No, that's not all I had to say about llama, and it's not what I said at all. First of all, I said he felt like he was trying to act like a civvie, and if I go by llama's logic of how to catch baddies who have no BTSC but know they are baddies, he fits that description to me, more than anyone else.

The post I quoted from him is something that I've done as a baddie, and seems like a blatant lie.

I don't believe he was losing sleep at this stage in the game, over a post Bullz made, which he'd have to memorize to be able to have a sudden "eureka" moment. Please . I have lost sleep over mafia games, but it was never this early, but rather at a much later stage in the game, where I had much more information and was trying to put things together.

BF, if you'd rather find my suspicion of him not genuine, rather than this obvious lie, then I'd say either you're logic is very bad, or you're bad.

Further more, last two games I went after llama, and he was a civ, he retorted in a cocky "no one is impressed with your accusations" kind of reply. While now, he hasn't said a thing of that sort. He's being very "cool" about it. I don't buy it.

[Spacedaisy]

And I had my reasons for voting FZ. even if I was wrong.

Holy shit y'all! It must be mighty cold in hell right now, I never thought I would ever see those words!

BF, if you'd rather find my suspicion of him not genuine, rather than this obvious lie, then I'd say either you're logic is very bad, or you're bad.

Yeah, I am feeling BF being civ less and less as time goes by. He totally mischaracterized your case against llama...

Re: Epi/Elo, I suspected that he was doing exactly what both he and his wife have said he was doing. I have done the same to Alex when I knew he needed to be putting his attention somewhere other than mafia.

I'm going to put my vote on Bf right now.... We'll see if anything changes my mind.