The Syndicate

Typhoony wrote:Top suspect is still Epi. If Mafia got fake roles to claim, I would think that they would be more likely to hint from the beginning.

If.

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:Sketchy stuff all around! If I'm Locke, I probably have a cool power role, because I'm Special, right?

Depends on how you look at it. Spoiler if you haven't seen Lost!

Spoiler: show

Locke wasn't, in fact, special, and is deceived into believing he has special powers on the island. Later he is possessed by the smoke monster. Really would be a great alibi for the smoke monster in this game if we're looking at alibis, no?

I originally had Locke pegged as the investigator, as in the investigator of the island, but I was wrong. I'm not sure what else he could be as a PR.

If I were designing this

Spoiler: show

I would have the Man in Black be a Mafia role that shows up as John Locke if lynched.

I'd have MiB be a mafia role that shows up as a passenger to a role check, ie Floyds role. That makes more sense than what you posted, especially considering this is a Season 1 game, not a Season 5 game.

Typhoony wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:Sketchy stuff all around! If I'm Locke, I probably have a cool power role, because I'm Special, right?

Depends on how you look at it. Spoiler if you haven't seen Lost!

Spoiler: show

Locke wasn't, in fact, special, and is deceived into believing he has special powers on the island. Later he is possessed by the smoke monster. Really would be a great alibi for the smoke monster in this game if we're looking at alibis, no?

I originally had Locke pegged as the investigator, as in the investigator of the island, but I was wrong. I'm not sure what else he could be as a PR.

If I were designing this

Spoiler: show

I would have the Man in Black be a Mafia role that shows up as John Locke if lynched.

I'd have MiB be a mafia role that shows up as a passenger to a role check, ie Floyds role. That makes more sense than what you posted, especially considering this is a Season 1 game, not a Season 5 game.

I don't plan to listen to you about what's sensible, Ty Fighter.

I still prefer Toilet Bowl Cleaner.

Yay! I wasn't lynched. I really have no influence whatsoever do I? Of everyone going after me, I even said "I think Floyd is good to go", yet I suppose people took that as "Yes he's good to gtfo" haha. RIP Floyd.

Long Con - Just so you know, dude, I was having fun with you Also, since you asked and to be perfectly clear, I am Sun. Didn't mean to make anyone upset with my claim yesterday, but after Sorsha claimed Jack, I thought it was the easiest way to get peeps off my back.

Dead Floyd - You can't answer, but I'm having trouble with your last post. I'd like to know what your "legitimate reason" of voting me was, considering you are the rolechecker? Seriously wtf? The only thing I can think of is you checked Bullz and he checked out civvie, so you figured I was a baddie going after him?

Anyway, working all day again today and then tomorrow I work in the morning, but Tuesday - Thursday I will have 3 days off in a row, woot!

BOOM

Lost

Matt wrote: Dead Floyd - You can't answer, but I'm having trouble with your last post. I'd like to know what your "legitimate reason" of voting me was, considering you are the rolechecker? Seriously wtf? The only thing I can think of is you checked Bullz and he checked out civvie, so you figured I was a baddie going after him?

The obvious solution to this is that he checked you and you came back bad. Not sure why you're even asking him since as you point out he can't answer.

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote: Dead Floyd - You can't answer, but I'm having trouble with your last post. I'd like to know what your "legitimate reason" of voting me was, considering you are the rolechecker? Seriously wtf? The only thing I can think of is you checked Bullz and he checked out civvie, so you figured I was a baddie going after him?

The obvious solution to this is that he checked you and you came back bad. Not sure why you're even asking him since as you point out he can't answer.

Too easy.

Sometimes the easy answers are the right ones, sometimes they aren't. But you can't dismiss something out of hand for being too easy, imo. Sometimes it just works that way.

a2thezebra wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote: Dead Floyd - You can't answer, but I'm having trouble with your last post. I'd like to know what your "legitimate reason" of voting me was, considering you are the rolechecker? Seriously wtf? The only thing I can think of is you checked Bullz and he checked out civvie, so you figured I was a baddie going after him?

The obvious solution to this is that he checked you and you came back bad. Not sure why you're even asking him since as you point out he can't answer.

Too easy.

Tuft-Head almost got lynched his first day here, and Jumbotron voted for him. If you were the Stay-Puft Man, who would you investigate first? The guy you voted for who almost got lynched, or somebody else?

S~V~S wrote:Sometimes the easy answers are the right ones, sometimes they aren't. But you can't dismiss something out of hand for being too easy, imo. Sometimes it just works that way.

I'm not dismissing it, I'm just saying that I don't think it's likely simply because it's such an obvious (as Bullzeye even acknowledged) conclusion.

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote: Dead Floyd - You can't answer, but I'm having trouble with your last post. I'd like to know what your "legitimate reason" of voting me was, considering you are the rolechecker? Seriously wtf? The only thing I can think of is you checked Bullz and he checked out civvie, so you figured I was a baddie going after him?

The obvious solution to this is that he checked you and you came back bad. Not sure why you're even asking him since as you point out he can't answer.

Too easy.

Tuft-Head almost got lynched his first day here, and Jumbotron voted for him. If you were the Stay-Puft Man, who would you investigate first? The guy you voted for who almost got lynched, or somebody else?

I don't know, I'm the Striped Crusader. What would you do if you were Gobbledy-Gookenblug?

If I was Pillsbury, I'd check out the guy I voted for- no question. It would let me know whether to lay off the gas or put the pedal to the metal. And if it came back to where I saw Tuft-Head was up to no good, I'd make a solid effort to get him lynched. That would've been the easy part.

Hell, yesterday I just waved my hand as I was leaving the beach to take a leak and got Snuffy strung up.

If Tuft-Head is bad, I guarantee you nutella is too.

Epignosis wrote:I will say that I thought Sassafras was Montezuma. That's what I had her as.

Being such a LOST freak I am appalled that I don't know who Montezuma is

I mean I *KNOW* who he was irl, but not in this context.

Hurley.

Doh lol.

Thank You.

Epignosis wrote:If Tuft-Head is bad, I guarantee you nutella is too.

I still don't know who the fuck Tuft-Head is (Matt?), or most of your other dumb nicknames that are only serving to obfuscate and confuse discussion. But I guarantee you I'm not bad.

Day 2

Zebra 4 DrWilgy (2), Scotty (6), Matt (10), nutella (11)
Long Con 0
DrWilgy 0
Sorsha 0
Floyd 5 Epignosis (12), a2thezebra (13), Typhoony (14), Long Con (15), S~V~S (16)
Nutella 0
Scotty 0
Bullzeye 0
Typhoony 0
Matt 2 TheFloyd73 (3), Bullzeye (4)
S~V~S 1 Sorsha (9)
Epignosis 0
Golden (host/np) 5 Golden (1), MovingPictures07 (5), Metalmarsh89 (7), Turnip Head (8), G-Man (17)

Night 2 has ended.


It is now day 3. You have 48 hours to figure out who is responsible.

nutella wrote:

Epignosis wrote:If Tuft-Head is bad, I guarantee you nutella is too.

I still don't know who the fuck Tuft-Head is (Matt?), or most of your other dumb nicknames that are only serving to obfuscate and confuse discussion. But I guarantee you I'm not bad.

nutella wrote:

Scotty wrote:I wonder what nutella thinks about all this game stuff.

I too am interested in whether Zebra has info. I might decide to vote for Matt with that hope, but I'm kinda skeptical about him. I still have an odd hunch about Floyd, and tentatively also Long Con, but idk how to explain it. I guess I'm tired of overanalyzing and manufacturing suspicions and would rather listen to my gut unless something more convincing comes up.

linki @ zebra hmm okay

I'd have expected a little more anti-Matt rhetoric than I'm seeing from you given that Jumbotron is dead.

Epi have you given up suspecting Sorsha?

a2thezebra wrote:Epi have you given up suspecting Sorsha?

Is anybody going to lynch Sorsha?

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Epi have you given up suspecting Sorsha?

Is anybody going to lynch Sorsha?

I don't know. So anyway, have you given up suspecting Sorsha?

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Epi have you given up suspecting Sorsha?

Is anybody going to lynch Sorsha?

I don't know. So anyway, have you given up suspecting Sorsha?

I would say that, given recent revelations, yes.

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Epi have you given up suspecting Sorsha?

Is anybody going to lynch Sorsha?

I don't know. So anyway, have you given up suspecting Sorsha?

I would say that, given recent revelations, yes.

Yet your initial response to my question was to ask if anyone was going to lynch her.

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Epi have you given up suspecting Sorsha?

Is anybody going to lynch Sorsha?

I don't know. So anyway, have you given up suspecting Sorsha?

I would say that, given recent revelations, yes.

Yet your initial response to my question was to ask if anyone was going to lynch her.

Yes...yes it was. Good catch.

Thanks.

Epignosis

a2thezebra wrote:Thanks.

Epignosis

You're welcome.

Matt

So if Matt is lynched today and flips bad, would your next target be nutella?

a2thezebra wrote:So if Matt is lynched today and flips bad, would your next target be nutella?

I ain't 100% on him at the moment, but yes.

a2thezebra wrote:DrWilgy

Totes

Epignosis wrote:

nutella wrote:

Epignosis wrote:If Tuft-Head is bad, I guarantee you nutella is too.

I still don't know who the fuck Tuft-Head is (Matt?), or most of your other dumb nicknames that are only serving to obfuscate and confuse discussion. But I guarantee you I'm not bad.

nutella wrote:

Scotty wrote:I wonder what nutella thinks about all this game stuff.

I too am interested in whether Zebra has info. I might decide to vote for Matt with that hope, but I'm kinda skeptical about him. I still have an odd hunch about Floyd, and tentatively also Long Con, but idk how to explain it. I guess I'm tired of overanalyzing and manufacturing suspicions and would rather listen to my gut unless something more convincing comes up.

linki @ zebra hmm okay

I'd have expected a little more anti-Matt rhetoric than I'm seeing from you given that Jumbotron is dead.

I'm not sure I see the logic here. Am I missing something really obvious?? The one I'm really suspicious of is Zebra. And that's where my vote is going.

nutella
DFaraday
Floyd
S~V~S
Epignosis
Typhoony
Bullzeye
Rain Man
Scotty
Ricochet
Long Con
Sorsha
Matt
Golden
a2thezebra
DrWilgy

Rip LC.

a2thezebra wrote:nutella
DFaraday
Floyd
S~V~S
Epignosis
Typhoony
Bullzeye
Rain Man
Scotty
Ricochet
Long Con
Sorsha
Matt
Golden
a2thezebra
DrWilgy

I'm glad you can't make up your mind on Ricochet, as well as the fact that you trust him less than me.


in other news, I missed my connecting flight into Alaska because of a 2 hour weather delay. Literally ran across the airport and watched the flight take off. So now I'm stuck in Minneapolis for an entire day. I'm a sad sad Scotty

Got home from work early, yay!

RIP Long Con. Fyi, I realize this is wifom, but I wouldn't kill him this early. I thought he and BR's AWR game was the shiz and I legit wouldn't take him down.

Bullz - That's pretty effin' funny that you can't see how Floyd could've checked you and that's why he was going after me. The only reason I won't be voting for you again today.

Epig - Yes, you'd think Floyd would've checked me, but he also mentioned Bullz several times, even commenting how he agrees with Bullz point of view in one post. I can see him checking Bullz to make sure he's not agreeing with a bad guy. In fact, it's the only reason I can see him saying "legitimate reason" for voting me.

@ Golden's post. Ummm I'd rather if we can count Floyd's last post, because it's out there and if we're not allowed to discuss it, then I can't defend against it??

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote: Dead Floyd - You can't answer, but I'm having trouble with your last post. I'd like to know what your "legitimate reason" of voting me was, considering you are the rolechecker? Seriously wtf? The only thing I can think of is you checked Bullz and he checked out civvie, so you figured I was a baddie going after him?

The obvious solution to this is that he checked you and you came back bad. Not sure why you're even asking him since as you point out he can't answer.

This. I think Floyd checking Matt night one makes sense. Voting Matt.

At this point, I don't think town will be able to move on until I'm gone.

I'd like to point out a few things, though...

1) Wouldn't NK LC. We're not best buds or anything, but I immensely enjoyed AWR and he and Black Rock were a blast to back and forth with. If bad, I wouldn't let my teamies kill him.

2) It's funny that of all those who voted me, I actually trusted Floyd not to be bad more then any of them (proudly displayed in my ISO), he gets lynched, now I'm on the chopping block again...because of Floyd!

3) Theory from left field - What if Sorsha and Typh are both mafia and they purposely withheld their kill N1, only to tell the thread about the protector thing so they both get cred? Sounds kinda silly, but just spitballin'.

Anyway, this seems like a lost cause. Derp.

Matt wrote:
At this point, I don't think town will be able to move on until I'm gone.

I agree. Sorry Matt, but I think it's pretty obvious Floyd had checked you at this point. *Votes Matt*. Not to worry though, I'm sure your team will come up with some crazy scheme to save you at the last minute again.

I hate relying on something we are not allowed to discuss that is not particularly fair to Matt. Sonot sure how I will vote, but will be hime tonight inplenty of time to do so.

I want to point out my vote isn't based on what we aren't allowed to discuss as I'd actually completely forgotten Floyd's post when Golden brought it up. I just think Matt was the obvious person for a role checker to target on night one based on how the first lynch went and that combined with Floyd's day 2 vote has me convinced.

delta scheduled me on 3 different connecting flights today spanning 15 hours to get to a destination 3 hours direct away I would rather crash on an island with time and space travel, you know what I mean?

I got 10 minutes before this plane departs, so quickly::
I dunno how to feel about Matt. On one hand, I feel like Floyd's post (his living post) seems to be pretty clear, but also keeping in mind that he voted Matt D1 and continued his voting for Matt unabated. I think Epi has a point that he would probably check the guy he voted for N1, but all of that is heresay.

I think that is our best bet in info today, because honestly I don't trust any of you with your alibis. LC dying as Locke debunks my smoke monster theory, so I feel like the baddies could be any shell of a castaway.

Voting Matt. This will also inform my opinion of several people that have been on and against him since the start of the game.

Good points, if I were a checker I would check the person I voted for that did not get lynched. And then keep voting for him, so what he said has no real bearing, does it?

*Voting Matt*

Yeah, it does make sense to me now that Floyd probably checked Matt. And this may be really unkosher to say (idk punish me if it's breaking the rule) but part of why I think so is based on what Golden said.

But, my major hesitation is that I really believed Matt's claim, and given I know Jin is in this game I'd be surprised if Sun wasn't. If that's true and the baddies indeed have fake roles to claim, then kudos Golden for seriously messing with my brain. But based on how the role claiming fest went down, I still hella don't trust Zebra.

Conclusion: I'm not sure whether I want to change my vote or not. Probably Matt will be lynched anyway, but I'd feel bad if he's my dear wife. And seriously, what is going on with zebra, has everyone else picked up on something that I haven't? And wtf is wrong with that rainbow list? Is that a self-outing?

really, something quite fishy is going on in the state of this island, and I can't quite fit the pieces of the puzzle together.

There's a number of things wrong with that rainbow list of mine, yet it takes more than a quick glance to notice all of them.

1. Epignosis, who I'm currently voting for, is fairly high among the civilian reads.
2. DFaraday, Floyd, and Long Con (who is a neutral gun-to-head scum read) are all dead.
3. Ricochet isn't playing this game.
4. Rain Man does not exist.
5. Golden is the host.
6. I have a very strong scum read of myself.

Scotty only noticed (or at least only made note of noticing) Number 3.
nutella only noticed (or at least only made note of noticing) Number 6.

Everyone else made no mention of the list at all, which I find interesting.

a2thezebra wrote:There's a number of things wrong with that rainbow list of mine, yet it takes more than a quick glance to notice all of them.

1. Epignosis, who I'm currently voting for, is fairly high among the civilian reads.
2. DFaraday, Floyd, and Long Con (who is a neutral gun-to-head scum read) are all dead.
3. Ricochet isn't playing this game.
4. Rain Man does not exist.
5. Golden is the host.
6. I have a very strong scum read of myself.

Scotty only noticed (or at least only made note of noticing) Number 3.
nutella only noticed (or at least only made note of noticing) Number 6.

Everyone else made no mention of the list at all, which I find interesting.

I noticed all of them, but I think rainbow lists are stupid and yours was no exception.

a2thezebra wrote:There's a number of things wrong with that rainbow list of mine, yet it takes more than a quick glance to notice all of them.

1. Epignosis, who I'm currently voting for, is fairly high among the civilian reads.
2. DFaraday, Floyd, and Long Con (who is a neutral gun-to-head scum read) are all dead.
3. Ricochet isn't playing this game.
4. Rain Man does not exist.
5. Golden is the host.
6. I have a very strong scum read of myself.

Scotty only noticed (or at least only made note of noticing) Number 3.
nutella only noticed (or at least only made note of noticing) Number 6.

Everyone else made no mention of the list at all, which I find interesting.

Similar to what Epi said, I saw the list and all the flaws but just assumed you were trying to get attention so ignored it. Why do you find it interesting?