The Syndicate

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:23 pm Okay I still only have hollowkatt for wolf but

c4e5g3d5
Master Radishes

May be an interesting place to look at

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:32 pm I can easily see sig making that shot as a wolf, but I don't know why he'd claim it considering it is so bad

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:32 pm I can easily see sig making that shot as a wolf, but I don't know why he'd claim it considering it is so bad

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:32 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:23 pm Okay I still only have hollowkatt for wolf but

c4e5g3d5
Master Radishes

May be an interesting place to look at

Agreed

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:33 pm Sig c4 HK as today's lynched , i approve

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:54 am

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:04 pm i felt like ilario's push on guillo start of game was towny for him. because we both just got fooled by guillo, and usually when he's a villager he will scrutinize people after getting fooled by them so it felt like lacking TMI.

Wdym by lacking tmi?

I know this is hard to prove but i did sr guillo before I died if u remember the post I made about him not wilding out that was my own way of saying I was flipping again and I opened the game with a tunnel on him last game which is kinda why I pushed him again this game since his start felt very similar to me

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:40 pm JPIC could be a wolf flying under the radar but i've kinda just been sheeping c4's read on him and moving on

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:41 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum

I will articulate my suspicion eventually. I’ve talked about it briefly already if you feel like digging.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:40 pm Pulled votes off TSP, MR and the corpse.

Put votes on P&G and C4

That makes [VOTE: 112, C4, Pao, P&G, and Sabie] aubergine

Mmmm... That's a good list right there it is.

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:57 pm vote: TSP

this is OMGUS again. i won't OMGUS guillo for mech reasons

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:19 am D1 I was sad cuz Dizzy his wagon vanished i felt strongest lynching him. I connected him highly with Marmot, but Marmot got chopped middle of the day, and then eventually we had this crazy eod. Now I want us to orchestrate the right lynch. Hollowkatt is my strongest pick right now, so let's orchestrate a Hollowkatt lynch, and unless we find reasons to go elsewhere instead during this process, I hope we set up a lynch before eod2 is coming and we all go nuts in the CFD's again.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:03 pm TSP why are you sheeping me on c4 when you were scumreading me for most of the game

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:18 pm
@Belzy I wasn't originally going to say anything, because I'm trying to be all cool lately. But I need to. You do realise that your read on me is entirely meme tier? I can not think of one single game where you don't scum read me first thing D1. I don't think you have mal intent here, but you seem to be operating with expectations of my play that are from 7 years ago. Please just consider this, and please spend time not only focusing on me.

Belzy (Spewed Town)
Sean
Guillo
Alexa ???

^These are the town reads I care the most about.

Sean cares about his own thoughts and suspicions and follows them up, and he's also doing classic town!Sean things in response to people either town reading him and accusing him.
Guillo has had many posts I found towny from him. Both Sean and Guillo are showing their paranoid town play styles imo. I think I'm pretty good at reading both of them actually.
Alexa ??? is town for how she went about her role check on Nut. I also think that she wouldn't have a role check as mafia when that is how mafia makes the soup kill tbh, but that is kind of besides the point. Her posts are kind of "messy" in a way I find they are as town, while they are more deliberate as scum. I've also been pretty good at reading Alexa.

There's a bunch of players I town read to a lighter degree or even a pretty solid degree, probably too many, but the aforementioned are the ones I feel I have a better handle on reading.

In any case, I feel the game is in a pretty ok spot consensus-wise.

I have some concerns about Mac. Feels like he's not really landing any of his thoughts, and they seem to be a bit all over the place, which I find scummy for him.
I'm also suspicious of Scotty, feel like his posts are just awkward, trying to chime in but not really going anywhere.
Sabie is meh.

I think these are the things I've been thinking about the most.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:14 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:18 pm
@Belzy I wasn't originally going to say anything, because I'm trying to be all cool lately. But I need to. You do realise that your read on me is entirely meme tier? I can not think of one single game where you don't scum read me first thing D1. I don't think you have mal intent here, but you seem to be operating with expectations of my play that are from 7 years ago. Please just consider this, and please spend time not only focusing on me.

Belzy (Spewed Town)
Sean
Guillo
Alexa ???

^These are the town reads I care the most about.

Sean cares about his own thoughts and suspicions and follows them up, and he's also doing classic town!Sean things in response to people either town reading him and accusing him.
Guillo has had many posts I found towny from him. Both Sean and Guillo are showing their paranoid town play styles imo. I think I'm pretty good at reading both of them actually.
Alexa ??? is town for how she went about her role check on Nut. I also think that she wouldn't have a role check as mafia when that is how mafia makes the soup kill tbh, but that is kind of besides the point. Her posts are kind of "messy" in a way I find they are as town, while they are more deliberate as scum. I've also been pretty good at reading Alexa.

There's a bunch of players I town read to a lighter degree or even a pretty solid degree, probably too many, but the aforementioned are the ones I feel I have a better handle on reading.

In any case, I feel the game is in a pretty ok spot consensus-wise.

I have some concerns about Mac. Feels like he's not really landing any of his thoughts, and they seem to be a bit all over the place, which I find scummy for him.
I'm also suspicious of Scotty, feel like his posts are just awkward, trying to chime in but not really going anywhere.
Sabie is meh.

I think these are the things I've been thinking about the most.

Belzy is spewed town by Dyslexicon and so is Sabie.

Mac is suspicious cause Dizzy had concerns and yet he didnt vote Phil and Gloria, looks like distancing.

Dizzy flipped role cop so he pocketed or tried to pocket Alexa by not “believing” Alexa was mafia role cop. Dizzy just pocketed the players that were most dangerous to him tbf.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:14 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:18 pm
@Belzy I wasn't originally going to say anything, because I'm trying to be all cool lately. But I need to. You do realise that your read on me is entirely meme tier? I can not think of one single game where you don't scum read me first thing D1. I don't think you have mal intent here, but you seem to be operating with expectations of my play that are from 7 years ago. Please just consider this, and please spend time not only focusing on me.

Belzy (Spewed Town)
Sean
Guillo
Alexa ???

^These are the town reads I care the most about.

Sean cares about his own thoughts and suspicions and follows them up, and he's also doing classic town!Sean things in response to people either town reading him and accusing him.
Guillo has had many posts I found towny from him. Both Sean and Guillo are showing their paranoid town play styles imo. I think I'm pretty good at reading both of them actually.
Alexa ??? is town for how she went about her role check on Nut. I also think that she wouldn't have a role check as mafia when that is how mafia makes the soup kill tbh, but that is kind of besides the point. Her posts are kind of "messy" in a way I find they are as town, while they are more deliberate as scum. I've also been pretty good at reading Alexa.

There's a bunch of players I town read to a lighter degree or even a pretty solid degree, probably too many, but the aforementioned are the ones I feel I have a better handle on reading.

In any case, I feel the game is in a pretty ok spot consensus-wise.

I have some concerns about Mac. Feels like he's not really landing any of his thoughts, and they seem to be a bit all over the place, which I find scummy for him.
I'm also suspicious of Scotty, feel like his posts are just awkward, trying to chime in but not really going anywhere.
Sabie is meh.

I think these are the things I've been thinking about the most.

Belzy is spewed town by Dyslexicon and so is Sabie.

Mac is suspicious cause Dizzy had concerns and yet he didnt vote Phil and Gloria, looks like distancing.

Dizzy flipped role cop so he pocketed or tried to pocket Alexa by not “believing” Alexa was mafia role cop. Dizzy just pocketed the players that were most dangerous to him tbf.

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:09 am guillo, i think your wolf equity went up with dizzy's death, that's why I'm voting you

I'm probably not gonna be on much because I have to perform emergency surgery on a dog ASAP

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:36 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine
This slot is full of bad pushes on town. The only good thing going for them was suspecting Dizzy but it could easily be distancing.

Spoiler: show

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:17 pm early take is that Seanzie is probably wolfing imo

Sabie had an odd opener but i haven't read any additional posts from her

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

honestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing town

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

honestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing town

Nah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.

hmm will consider

to me: i read the post first of all paying attention to its form more-so than the contents, and it really seemed like alison was trying /hard/ to follow a process and more than that appear to be following a process. maybe i am being anti-intellectual here and there is towny merit in casing people like that, but i honestly get the feeling she's trying too hard to slam dunk creature through a rigid adherence to cause-and-effect writing.

idk if that makes sense but ye

This shows 112 had tmi nutella was town. The tone how 113 addresses nutella implies that, also considering their read on Alison after making a definitive stand that Alison was scum, why would 112 take Nutella;s word for it? I read their ISO and didnt see 112 townreading Nutella. If 112 did, i missed it.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:51 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:49 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

Are the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?

I think it's way too early to write such a monster of a post--if you have so much to write against him/his slot right now, it's probably coming from a place of wolfy over-eagerness to project town or otherwise control the game.

Not too early for a wolf to make themself that obvious. I think alison is right and justified by how glaringly bad creature's content has been.

fair enough and i haven't read pages 2-5ish yet

haven't had a problem with creature myself--all i've really noticed from him is that he agrees with my Seanzie read and i prefer to see that favourably than not right now

If 112 is a wolf, this spews Creature town.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:45 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:43 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:38 am I think I'm gonna go.
My past few posts are low effort posts and scums are taking advantage of it; scum painting me.
I'll check it again later on.
Byeee~

I think this is probably just town lmao

Paopan's list was v towny despite what ppl are saying about the slot

i can understand every inclusion in it

@112 Did you explain the bolded, why you understood every inclusion in it?

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:10 pm [VOTE: dyslexicon] aubergine

..,

Naked vote

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:17 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:13 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:12 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:10 pm C4, shoot:

Scotty (scummy)

Bo (as KZA wanted)

or

Wilgy (as he requested)

Could totally shoot Scotty

Bo seems to be genuinely enjoying himself and is decently polarized but since both of you know him better do you have specific insights?

Wilgy lolno

Bo needs to actually do anything before I an actually read him.

well yeah but i think his slankship itself is >rand maf for him just operating by meta.

also, the posts he has made that i've managed to catch and read are largely off-topic and jokey, and i think this kind of active slank in addition to his more passive slanking is >>rand maf for him, no?

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:24 pm [VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:34 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:33 pm

Paopan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:29 pm My vote is still at sabie
There are way better votes? Probably
But I'm confident sabie will flip scum

What happens when I flip town? What does that say about you?

Why does it have to say anything? Can villagers not have bad reads?

This looks like a chainsaw, like a defense.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:27 am

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:25 am [VOTE: GUILLOTINE] aubergine

i can 100% see this so not insulting the vote when i ask, but what are your reasons?

Why did you ask? You had to have reasons or not reasons of your own to ask this.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:18 pm i'm thinking Axe is some kind of 3p

Why 3P and not scum?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:40 pm Why are we not treating Sig's shot as a scum claim?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:39 pm I must say though that if Betzy is still alive later in game, scrutinize her. I hosted a game at Mafia Café where she and Dyslexicon were wolves, and the way these two distanced from each other was one of the reasons they won that game.

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:40 pm i feel like there was very little justification for sig to shoot nutella. like, i get the argument of why claim that as wolf, but also it's something you can easily claim as wolf to look towny. they quoted one minor thing from dizzy spew then shot nutella from it when nutella was V read but almost all

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:40 pm Why are we not treating Sig's shot as a scum claim?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:41 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:40 pm Why are we not treating Sig's shot as a scum claim?

twtbw

maybe