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Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:52 pm**

I could agree that LC and Quin are very, very likely town from those posts.

BTW we have three lynches left in this game, so long as we have a kill every single night. Come to think of it, if Everest's extra role passes down continually... is it possible for us to lose this game? 1 on 1, town v scum, town will win with the doublevote every time, right?
[mention]Marmot[/mention]

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:52 pm**

I forgot that Quin made those posts earlier on. Thank you for reminder. I generally agree with your analysis.

However LC is definitely Space Mountain it's already been 100% confirmed by my prophetic dream.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:54 pm**

What I'd like to know is, how possiblelikely is it that 6 people who voted for nutella on Day 1 were all town?

sprityo, speedchuck, Jackofhearts2005, Long Con, Quin, Dragon D. Luffy

I'm Town (counting for sprityo)
Jack was town

4 more players alive- speed, LC, Quin and DDL

If we assume nutella was town, and Eloh voted for Long Con, it's more than possible her 4th team mate voted for nutella (if the 4th team mate is an active participant).

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:57 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:52 pm I could agree that LC and Quin are very, very likely town from those posts.

BTW we have three lynches left in this game, so long as we have a kill every single night. Come to think of it, if Everest's extra role passes down continually... is it possible for us to lose this game? 1 on 1, town v scum, town will win with the doublevote every time, right?
@Marmot

I thought we already went over that, Everest's role passes onto the next largest mountain but stops being passed down after that.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:59 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:54 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:39 am
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:31 am (but everyone thinks Everest is lame whereas I think Everest has the power to change a vote and I believe Everest was responsible for Day 1 no lynch -- so to devalue it is silly).
Well, in a sense, Everest itself has vanilla town value. When Everest dies, it's vote passes town to the next highest living mountain. So killing Everest is pointless. The vote will stay as long as town lives.

Which... raises some questions.
@Marmot
With town having an extra vote, will the game go to town if we get it down to 1 town 1 scum? Usually scum would overrun because they have a kill and the vote is deadlocked. But whatever townie is left would have 2 votes...
If the game gets to a state where there is only one possible outcome, the game will end immediately and the winner(s) declared.

The entire Everest ability passes down when it dies, not just the vote.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:59 pm**

Entire ability, Dunya.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:00 pm**

oh shit, that seems a bit unfair tbh.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:01 pm**

so basically, we've won the game. lol.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:01 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:54 pm What I'd like to know is, how possiblelikely is it that 6 people who voted for nutella on Day 1 were all town?

sprityo, speedchuck, Jackofhearts2005, Long Con, Quin, Dragon D. Luffy

I'm Town (counting for sprityo)
Jack was town

4 more players alive- speed, LC, Quin and DDL

If we assume nutella was town, and Eloh voted for Long Con, it's more than possible her 4th team mate voted for nutella (if the 4th team mate is an active participant).

I'm confused about this. Why would the final wolf be motivated to vote for either one of Nutella or LC if neither of them is mafia?

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:02 pm**

If Everest is lynched, does its ability still get passed down or is it only if it dies? [mention]Marmot[/mention]

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:03 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:01 pm so basically, we've won the game. lol.

Maybe.

linki: that might be a possibility I guess

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:04 pm**

so basically even if we do every single thing as wrong as possible we'll still win as long as we make the end phase a day with 2 players and the civ one is an active player who doesn't miss votes?

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:07 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:01 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:54 pm What I'd like to know is, how possiblelikely is it that 6 people who voted for nutella on Day 1 were all town?

sprityo, speedchuck, Jackofhearts2005, Long Con, Quin, Dragon D. Luffy

I'm Town (counting for sprityo)
Jack was town

4 more players alive- speed, LC, Quin and DDL

If we assume nutella was town, and Eloh voted for Long Con, it's more than possible her 4th team mate voted for nutella (if the 4th team mate is an active participant).
I'm confused about this. Why would the final wolf be motivated to vote for either one of Nutella or LC if neither of them is mafia?

your question doesn't make sense. are you saying 3 scum members intentionally sat this lynch out?

Or are you saying 2 of the scum team would have picked the member with the least number of votes to pile on?

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:13 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:52 pm I could agree that LC and Quin are very, very likely town from those posts.

BTW we have three lynches left in this game, so long as we have a kill every single night. Come to think of it, if Everest's extra role passes down continually... is it possible for us to lose this game? 1 on 1, town v scum, town will win with the doublevote every time, right?
@Marmot

I won't describe situations where only one side can win, but I will end the game if such a situation arises.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:15 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:02 pm If Everest is lynched, does its ability still get passed down or is it only if it dies? @Marmot

Lynch = death.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:16 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:07 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:01 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:54 pm What I'd like to know is, how possiblelikely is it that 6 people who voted for nutella on Day 1 were all town?

sprityo, speedchuck, Jackofhearts2005, Long Con, Quin, Dragon D. Luffy

I'm Town (counting for sprityo)
Jack was town

4 more players alive- speed, LC, Quin and DDL

If we assume nutella was town, and Eloh voted for Long Con, it's more than possible her 4th team mate voted for nutella (if the 4th team mate is an active participant).
I'm confused about this. Why would the final wolf be motivated to vote for either one of Nutella or LC if neither of them is mafia?
your question doesn't make sense. are you saying 3 scum members intentionally sat this lynch out?

Or are you saying 2 of the scum team would have picked the member with the least number of votes to pile on?

no im confused about the implications

why would the mafia feel a need to put their votes or not put their votes in any certain way if none of their members were still risk

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:19 pm**

because they were going to be lynching townies, there will be implications on end of day voting patterns that will be looked into. I can't see Eloh and scum mate voting for Long Con if scum mate isn't nutella. *shrug* I can see Eloh placing a vote on Long Con and her (active) scum mate trying to finalize the nutella vote. I can also see three inactives not voting at all.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:20 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:15 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:02 pm If Everest is lynched, does its ability still get passed down or is it only if it dies? @Marmot
Lynch = death.
[[mention]Marmot[/mention] Ok thanks for answering, just want to make sure there's no way to mess this up.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:21 pm**

I have no idea how that ^ happened. lmao. those frigging mention tags are going to be the death of me.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:26 pm**

Well.... MP (Jay's past self) self voted and Dilgy didn't vote at all.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:29 pm**

MP wasn't playing tbf. Wilgy wasn't around.

I want you to tell me how likely it is for an ACTIVE 4th member to vote with Eloh on a townie that was 2 votes away from being tied with nutella (taking into consideration you voted nutella at the end cos you felt sorry for her).

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:35 pm**

idk if there would have been much concern about avoiding attention based on our day 1 vote, if anyone was going to look bad and become a lynch candidate it would have been Long Con or Nutella depending on which one had been lynched.

Isn't that usually how it goes when the day 1 vote is split between 2 good boys? one of them flips civ and the other gets lynched right after to see if it was a baddie motivated wagon, and then when that guy flips civ the entire thing gets dropped.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:39 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:29 pm MP wasn't playing tbf. Wilgy wasn't around.

I want you to tell me how likely it is for an ACTIVE 4th member to vote with Eloh on a townie that was 2 votes away from being tied with nutella (taking into consideration you voted nutella at the end cos you felt sorry for her).

Oh!!!! Now I understand.

I think it would be less likely, at least slightly. It would depend on whether the final wolf had legitimate reasons to vote for the same player as their bud. I think if they had approximately equal momentum for either vote then there would be more reason to vote for the other player than to double down with their teammate.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:44 pm**

I also didn't vote for LC out of sympathy. I voted for LC to test nutella's hint about ties

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:45 pm**

Day 1 votes: MP/Jay self vote, Wilgy didn't vote, Eloh went for Long Con who wasn't in the lead, speedchuck went for nutella...who was in the lead.

nutella
6
35%
Voters: sprityo, speedchuck, Jackofhearts2005, Long Con, Quin, Dragon D. Luffy

Long Con
5
29%
Voters: Elohcin, colonialbob, nutella, Sloonei, Kylemii

Day 2 votes: Wilgy and Jay vote for Jack and Elo votes for Sloonei. --speedchuck is on Jack with JJJ and Wilgy

5
31%
Voters: Kylemii, nutella, Dragon D. Luffy, DrWilgy, speedchuck
JaggedJimmyJay

5
31%
Voters: Epignosis, Quin, sprityo, colonialbob, Elohcin
Spacedaisy

Day 3 votes: Jay and Wilgy vote for Mesk. Elo is on her own on speedchuck???? speedchuck is on Dom, with 2 other confirmed townies, Jack and Daisy.

speedchuck
1
6%
Voters: Elohcin

Mesk514
5
29%
Voters: Kylemii, JaggedJimmyJay, DrWilgy, Quin, Sloonei

Dom
3
18%
Voters: Spacedaisy, speedchuck, Jackofhearts2005

Day 4 votes: Wilgy is on Jay, Eloh is on speedchuck again???? speedchuck is on Jay.

JaggedJimmyJay
9
50%
Voters: speedchuck, colonialbob, DrWilgy, Jackofhearts2005, nutella, Dragon D. Luffy, Epignosis, Sloonei, Kylemii

speedchuck
3
17%
Voters: Elohcin, Long Con, malakim2099

Day 5 Votes: Wilgy doesn't vote, Eloh with the majority on malakim. speed is also on mal.

malakim2099
9
60%
Voters: Quin, speedchuck, Long Con, Kylemii, nutella, colonialbob, Epignosis, Elohcin, Dragon D. Luffy

Day 6 Votes: Wilgy on the cBob bandwagon. speedchuck with him. Eloh on the other Quin bandwagon.

colonialbob
8
47%
Voters: Long Con, Sloonei, Kylemii, DrWilgy, Quin, dunya, speedchuck, Epignosis

Quin
4
24%
Voters: nutella, colonialbob, Elohcin, Dragon D. Luffy

Day 7 Votes: Eloh on Quin again, speedchuck on the Wilgy bandwagon.

DrWilgy
6
43%
Voters: Kylemii, Quin, speedchuck, Long Con, dunya, Sloonei

Quin
3
21%
Voters: Elohcin, nutella, Dragon D. Luffy

Day 8 Votes: speed on Eloh.

Guys, if we have an active scum, it's speedchuck. I'll bet a ton of money on it.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:45 pm**

I'd honestly be really surprise if anyone other than sig or nijuu is the final bad boy.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:47 pm**

speedchuck is the active player I have the fewest reasons to see as civ or indie

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:49 pm**

Eloh's vote on LC Day 1 almost proves to me there was a vote on nutella by one of her teammates.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:49 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:47 pm speedchuck is the active player I have the fewest reasons to see as civ or indie

really

REALLY

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm**

If I was scum, I'd be doing a bang-up job of it

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm**

I think I'm gonna finally do the list of posts that speak scum speedchuck to me post, guys.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm If I was scum, I'd be doing a bang-up job of it

That's what Eloh said.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:55 pm**

another reason why it's not DDL

Day 7 Votes: Eloh on Quin again, speedchuck on the Wilgy bandwagon.

DrWilgy
6
43%
Voters: Kylemii, Quin, speedchuck, Long Con, dunya, Sloonei

Quin
3
21%
Voters: Elohcin, nutella, Dragon D. Luffy

No way were DDL / ELOH teammates both voting Quin while their third teammate was being dragged down.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:55 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm If I was scum, I'd be doing a bang-up job of it
That's what Eloh said.

Yeah, but I'm proud god-tier scum. Eloh is humbler than I.

And Eloh didn't push for Wilgy and Eloh lynch.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm If I was scum, I'd be doing a bang-up job of it

dude I've said it before about dunya, but I think it's true about anyone, if the final baddie is anyone other than sig or nijuu then they've done a really great job.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm If I was scum, I'd be doing a bang-up job of it
dude I've said it before about dunya, but I think it's true about anyone, if the final baddie is anyone other than sig or nijuu then they've done a really great job.

If I was scum, Wilgy would still be alive.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm**

again, if nijuu/sig are civ, it's definitely speed. in fact, I'm voting speed tomorrow either way. It would be nice to catch the last scum while we have two inactives we didn't kill out of POE.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:58 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm again, if nijuu/sig are civ, it's definitely speed. in fact, I'm voting speed tomorrow either way. It would be nice to catch the last scum while we have two inactives we didn't kill out of POE.

Pls kill them first. Come on man. I feel like this is my best town game in ages, and I don't want to sit out the end because of your tinfoil.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:58 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm If I was scum, I'd be doing a bang-up job of it
dude I've said it before about dunya, but I think it's true about anyone, if the final baddie is anyone other than sig or nijuu then they've done a really great job.
If I was scum, Wilgy would still be alive.

no he wouldn't. Wilgy's participation levels have gone down considerably and that's saying a lot cos his contributions were not all out there in the first place. Great bussing opportunity. You yourself said you'd do it. Jay did it for TWO teammates. It's very likely.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:58 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:55 pm And Eloh didn't push for Wilgy and Eloh lynch.

Jay did.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:00 pm**

What happened between Jay/speed, Eloh/speed, Wilgy/speed. That's my current focus rather than his entire ISO. At least before end of night in case he ahem kills me ahem.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:00 pm**

If Sig is civ then the only way for us to lose is for us to never lynch sig and somehow never lynch the mafia either until the game is only the civ sig and the last mafio and no one else.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:01 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:58 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm If I was scum, I'd be doing a bang-up job of it
dude I've said it before about dunya, but I think it's true about anyone, if the final baddie is anyone other than sig or nijuu then they've done a really great job.
If I was scum, Wilgy would still be alive.
no he wouldn't. Wilgy's participation levels have gone down considerably and that's saying a lot cos his contributions were not all out there in the first place. Great bussing opportunity. You yourself said you'd do it. Jay did it for TWO teammates. It's very likely.

I said I'd do it if I was going down early. Which has never happened to me. Look at my other scum games. I've never bussed my teammates under normal conditions.

And do you really think that the Wilgy/JJJ/Speedchuck mess on Day 3 was three scum?
Sloonei would slap you silly if he was alive.

linki: ohmigod Dunya

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:01 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:00 pm If Sig is civ then the only way for us to lose is for us to never lynch sig and somehow never lynch the mafia either until the game is only the civ sig and the last mafio and no one else.

*cough* mars hill shenanigans? *cough*

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:02 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:58 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm again, if nijuu/sig are civ, it's definitely speed. in fact, I'm voting speed tomorrow either way. It would be nice to catch the last scum while we have two inactives we didn't kill out of POE.
Pls kill them first. Come on man. I feel like this is my best town game in ages, and I don't want to sit out the end because of your tinfoil.

I also find it incredulous how you never survive as townie. All the examples you linked me to: you got killed early. Not very telling of your "townie" game. Yesterday in pizza, you were killed early. All your mafia games? You're the last mafia member alive.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:03 pm**

I think you mean Maria Hill? Director of Shield?

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:05 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:01 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:58 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm If I was scum, I'd be doing a bang-up job of it
dude I've said it before about dunya, but I think it's true about anyone, if the final baddie is anyone other than sig or nijuu then they've done a really great job.
If I was scum, Wilgy would still be alive.
no he wouldn't. Wilgy's participation levels have gone down considerably and that's saying a lot cos his contributions were not all out there in the first place. Great bussing opportunity. You yourself said you'd do it. Jay did it for TWO teammates. It's very likely.
I said I'd do it if I was going down early. Which has never happened to me. Look at my other scum games. I've never bussed my teammates under normal conditions.

And do you really think that the Wilgy/JJJ/Speedchuck mess on Day 3 was three scum?
Sloonei would slap you silly if he was alive.

linki: ohmigod Dunya

Do we believe Jay would try to actively lynch Eloh? When I built a case on her, they ignored it referencing how Jay tried to actively lynch her and I was tinfoiling hard. Well yeah he did. And yeah she was his scum mate.

Nothing is off limits this game. I can totally see you guys doing a ton of weird shit Day 3 onwards. That's when Jay knew it was going to happen, that's when shit began to hit the fan.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:13 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:02 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:58 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm again, if nijuu/sig are civ, it's definitely speed. in fact, I'm voting speed tomorrow either way. It would be nice to catch the last scum while we have two inactives we didn't kill out of POE.
Pls kill them first. Come on man. I feel like this is my best town game in ages, and I don't want to sit out the end because of your tinfoil.
I also find it incredulous how you never survive as townie. All the examples you linked me to: you got killed early. Not very telling of your "townie" game. Yesterday in pizza, you were killed early. All your mafia games? You're the last mafia member alive.

1. Don't even compare my game to Pizza mafia. I mean really.
2. I sucked in the early game this game.
3. Mafia has killed a grand total of 4 people. People that got Jay killed and town leaders. I would not be surprised if you or I were next.
4. I know. That's why this is a good town game.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:15 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:05 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:01 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:58 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:56 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:51 pm If I was scum, I'd be doing a bang-up job of it
dude I've said it before about dunya, but I think it's true about anyone, if the final baddie is anyone other than sig or nijuu then they've done a really great job.
If I was scum, Wilgy would still be alive.
no he wouldn't. Wilgy's participation levels have gone down considerably and that's saying a lot cos his contributions were not all out there in the first place. Great bussing opportunity. You yourself said you'd do it. Jay did it for TWO teammates. It's very likely.
I said I'd do it if I was going down early. Which has never happened to me. Look at my other scum games. I've never bussed my teammates under normal conditions.

And do you really think that the Wilgy/JJJ/Speedchuck mess on Day 3 was three scum?
Sloonei would slap you silly if he was alive.

linki: ohmigod Dunya
Do we believe Jay would try to actively lynch Eloh? When I built a case on her, they ignored it referencing how Jay tried to actively lynch her and I was tinfoiling hard. Well yeah he did. And yeah she was his scum mate.

Nothing is off limits this game. I can totally see you guys doing a ton of weird shit Day 3 onwards. That's when Jay knew it was going to happen, that's when shit began to hit the fan.

I mean, you can assume that I'm insane and that I wanted to be last scum standing in a game where town has a constant +1 vote. You can make that assumption. And you have.

I'm not even mad. I'm smiling right now. I'm amused. I can't fathom your thought process.

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:17 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:03 pm I think you mean Maria Hill? Director of Shield?

Olympus Mons. You know what I meant.

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