Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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wagonsI don't think I've ever been scum in a turbo and only recall playing in one. You might be thinking of .113Poison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:35 pmInteresting.Hally wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:31 pmi don’t know 112 at all. this is our first game together
Btw, I have played with scum!112 in a turbo before, but turbos don't count so I won't include that meta.
I said the same thing. I have to pick someone to change the state of affairs.Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:49 pm....so your argument is that because in your opinion the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, I'm a wolf for writing a post saying 'the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, let's try to change the state of affairs to a different one'?Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:11 pmThe mafia is extremely comfortable with the present state of affairs.Ash Lael wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:40 pmOk, soEpignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:38 pmNative English speaker?Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:32 pm like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that
and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS
because the reason you're presenting does not make sense
*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you
I'll do you one better.
I'm an English teacher.
Why is Arete a wolf?
And this is your best evidence:Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:50 pmright now I'm leaning you as one of them, as you probably guessed from the fact that I'm voting youEpignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:14 pmWhat you meant was, "Right now, I don't think Wilgy is a hit." I knew that.Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:42 pmthen presumably you should have been able to use context clues to figure out that my sentence was narrating my present state of mind rather than implying Wilgy's alignment would be different depending on when we flipped him!Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:38 pmArete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:32 pm like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that
and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS
because the reason you're presenting does not make sense
*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you
Native English speaker?
I'll do you one better.
I'm an English teacher.
That isn't what your statement said.
Who is Tony's partner and why?
That isn't me being a teammate of Tony.Epi isn't a current wagon and is getting a pass for no clear reason so that could maybe be a hit? but I'm not, like, confident of that
okayEpignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:24 pmI said the same thing. I have to pick someone to change the state of affairs.Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:49 pm....so your argument is that because in your opinion the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, I'm a wolf for writing a post saying 'the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, let's try to change the state of affairs to a different one'?Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:11 pmThe mafia is extremely comfortable with the present state of affairs.Ash Lael wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:40 pmOk, soEpignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:38 pmNative English speaker?Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:32 pm like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that
and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS
because the reason you're presenting does not make sense
*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you
I'll do you one better.
I'm an English teacher.
Why is Arete a wolf?
I picked you.
I have someone I like more, it’s 112. I’ve been arguing for that lynch.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:27 pm I knew votes would come together on me. Mind the reasons why so that after I'm gone you can make better decisions.
I keep hearing a lot of "this person is good, this person is good."
Nobody is bad then, heh?
Well, two people are, and it isn't me. So once I am relieved of my duties here as a warm body civilian voter, I hope you will reconsider folks like Arete and Ash who "Don't really like it" but they're comfortable with it and can't be bothered to find something they like more.
Are you paying attention? I've been trying to Change the State of Affairstm since ages ago.Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:30 pmokayEpignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:24 pmI said the same thing. I have to pick someone to change the state of affairs.Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:49 pm....so your argument is that because in your opinion the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, I'm a wolf for writing a post saying 'the Mafia is comfortable with the present state of affairs, let's try to change the state of affairs to a different one'?Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:11 pmThe mafia is extremely comfortable with the present state of affairs.Ash Lael wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:40 pmOk, soEpignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:38 pmNative English speaker?Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:32 pm like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that
and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS
because the reason you're presenting does not make sense
*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you
I'll do you one better.
I'm an English teacher.
Why is Arete a wolf?
I picked you.
so this question is going to sound super loaded
but why did you only try to Change The State Of Affairs after I was like 'hm, mafia seems comfortable with this state of affairs, what if we voted Epi instead of Wilgy,' like, if you thought Mafia were comfortable with the state of affairs in the thread then why did you not bring that up sooner
I have argued in favor of it too.Ash Lael wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:31 pmI have someone I like more, it’s 112. I’ve been arguing for that lynch.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:27 pm I knew votes would come together on me. Mind the reasons why so that after I'm gone you can make better decisions.
I keep hearing a lot of "this person is good, this person is good."
Nobody is bad then, heh?
Well, two people are, and it isn't me. So once I am relieved of my duties here as a warm body civilian voter, I hope you will reconsider folks like Arete and Ash who "Don't really like it" but they're comfortable with it and can't be bothered to find something they like more.
But it’s 20 min to deadline and the lead wagon had 2 votes. We have to come together and that means someone has to compromise.
Honestly right now I think the team is exactly Hally/112 and all this soft claim stuff from Hally is some kind of mind game.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:36 pmI have argued in favor of it too.Ash Lael wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:31 pmI have someone I like more, it’s 112. I’ve been arguing for that lynch.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:27 pm I knew votes would come together on me. Mind the reasons why so that after I'm gone you can make better decisions.
I keep hearing a lot of "this person is good, this person is good."
Nobody is bad then, heh?
Well, two people are, and it isn't me. So once I am relieved of my duties here as a warm body civilian voter, I hope you will reconsider folks like Arete and Ash who "Don't really like it" but they're comfortable with it and can't be bothered to find something they like more.
But it’s 20 min to deadline and the lead wagon had 2 votes. We have to come together and that means someone has to compromise.
Hally says we're donkeys for it.
I don't think Hally is mafia.
What say you to that?
you are one of two players this game that I don't have non-associative reasons to townread (the other being Wilgy) and I think the threadstate points to Wilgy being a villagerEpignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:29 pmAnd this is your best evidence:Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:50 pmright now I'm leaning you as one of them, as you probably guessed from the fact that I'm voting youEpignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:14 pmWhat you meant was, "Right now, I don't think Wilgy is a hit." I knew that.Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:42 pmthen presumably you should have been able to use context clues to figure out that my sentence was narrating my present state of mind rather than implying Wilgy's alignment would be different depending on when we flipped him!Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:38 pmArete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:32 pm like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that
and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS
because the reason you're presenting does not make sense
*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you
Native English speaker?
I'll do you one better.
I'm an English teacher.
That isn't what your statement said.
Who is Tony's partner and why?
That isn't me being a teammate of Tony.Epi isn't a current wagon and is getting a pass for no clear reason so that could maybe be a hit? but I'm not, like, confident of that
You are mafia.
Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:38 pmyou are one of two players this game that I don't have non-associative reasons to townread (the other being Wilgy) and I think the threadstate points to Wilgy being a villagerEpignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:29 pmAnd this is your best evidence:Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:50 pmright now I'm leaning you as one of them, as you probably guessed from the fact that I'm voting youEpignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:14 pmWhat you meant was, "Right now, I don't think Wilgy is a hit." I knew that.Arete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:42 pmthen presumably you should have been able to use context clues to figure out that my sentence was narrating my present state of mind rather than implying Wilgy's alignment would be different depending on when we flipped him!Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:38 pmArete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:32 pm like, I have trouble seeing how a reasonable native speaker of English* would interpret my sentence like that
and it kinda feels like you picked out a random line from my post and completely ignored my actual argument so that you could vote me and have a reason other than OMGUS
because the reason you're presenting does not make sense
*I don't know if you're a native English speaker, if you're not then I'm sorry and I'm not trying to insult you
Native English speaker?
I'll do you one better.
I'm an English teacher.
That isn't what your statement said.
Who is Tony's partner and why?
That isn't me being a teammate of Tony.Epi isn't a current wagon and is getting a pass for no clear reason so that could maybe be a hit? but I'm not, like, confident of that
You are mafia.
before I brought you up no one was particularly interested in pressuring you for no clear reason, people who are getting zero pressure when no one townreads them and no one can really even point to a reason they're town are >>rand Mafia
your response to me switching my vote to you was actually awful, you OMGUS-voted me while inventing a reason that involved blatantly misconstruing my sentence. when further pressured for reasons you came up with reasons that were actively illogical and contradictory to the point that I have a hard time seeing it as anything but trying to invent reasons where they don't exist so that your vote looks more justified
you claim to be dissatisfied with the threadstate but have done nothing to change it for the first 46 hours of the day, as far as I can tell you did not care about it at all until you were being pressured. your actions are inconsistent with your supposed mindset.
none of these reasons are 'you are specifically aligned with Tony based on associations' but that doesn't make them invalid
I have a really dumb tinfoil that Hally is a villager and Wilgy is also a villager and wolves specifically want Wilgy to be voted out because if V!Wilgy gets voted out, V!Hally dies, the last poison rands to a villager, and a nightkill happens that makes parity
It was a pretty recent game. I'll check it out later.112 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:11 pmI don't think I've ever been scum in a turbo and only recall playing in one. You might be thinking of .113Poison wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:35 pmInteresting.Hally wrote: ↑Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:31 pmi don’t know 112 at all. this is our first game together
Btw, I have played with scum!112 in a turbo before, but turbos don't count so I won't include that meta.
I gather that. I think you are genuine and I trust Hally judgment anyway. If I am wrong and you win, so be it.
if I had to vote one of the top wagons now I would vote 112 because I like the wagon composition better
