The Syndicate

I think were I to say yay or nay, Panda-moneum would ensue

Not that you need help achieving Panda-moneum, apparently

NOO!! do not lynch hooman MATT first!!! hoOman MATT listens to tem!!!

lynch PIG LC, hoomans CUUUUTE!!! pig NOT cute!!

DrWilgy wrote:NOO!! do not lynch hooman MATT first!!! hoOman MATT listens to tem!!!

lynch PIG LC, hoomans CUUUUTE!!! pig NOT cute!!

This used to be such an intellectual game. It challenged me. What happened?!

DrWilgy wrote:NOO!! do not lynch hooman MATT first!!! hoOman MATT listens to tem!!!

lynch PIG LC, hoomans CUUUUTE!!! pig NOT cute!!

LC is silenced. And please unless you are cursed, can you talk understandably?

Also speaking of talking understandably (bear-ly) what has happened to G Man?

Elohcin wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:NOO!! do not lynch hooman MATT first!!! hoOman MATT listens to tem!!!

lynch PIG LC, hoomans CUUUUTE!!! pig NOT cute!!

This used to be such an intellectual game. It challenged me. What happened?!

NOOs!! It's still smart!!

Dr.Tem went to colleg an maked u prouds!!

Are you cursed? I am not koala-fied to determine this on my own. If you aren't, I am problems understanding you.

ebwop, I am HAVING problems understanding.

Quin wrote:I HAVE A HEADACHE

you and me both. And this game isn't helping.

We could do with a bear bit more traditional game playing, and a bit less avant garde, agreed.

How do we feel about sprityo?

Scotty wrote:How do we feel about sprityo?

I wish the host had called him "spit" or "spirit" in the shorthand post, that would have been lulz.

Other than that, zero thoughts. Which is alarming. What thoughts have you? Or did you already say (then I will be em*bear*ased)

I have returned from colleg and am no longer a Tem. (thank god)

Eloh, do you actually think I'm tunneling you?

DrWilgy wrote:I have returned from colleg and am no longer a Tem. (thank god)

Eloh, do you actually think I'm tunneling you?

I think you've let up a bit since I announced my theory.

I'm not suspicious of sprit at the moment. Though I'd like to see more content from him.

I did have some suspicions of Dom, however that has abated.
I'm still fine with the Matt wagon.

So here is a question. How often on TS does the mafia team silence themselves?

Well,this game does not prohibit it. Some do.

I think people talk about it more than they do it.

I just noticed the poll.

It's bearly comprensibe

sig wrote:I'm not suspicious of sprit at the moment. Though I'd like to see more content from him.

I did have some suspicions of Dom, however that has abated.
I'm still fine with the Matt wagon.

So here is a question. How often on TS does the mafia team silence themselves?

you hAD suspicion of me?

Dom wrote:

sig wrote:I'm not suspicious of sprit at the moment. Though I'd like to see more content from him.

I did have some suspicions of Dom, however that has abated.
I'm still fine with the Matt wagon.

So here is a question. How often on TS does the mafia team silence themselves?

you hAD suspicion of me?

It was unexpressed but yes I did.

DFaraday wrote:I'm not liking how many votes Matt is getting. He's acting weird, but it just feels Matt-weird, not shady baddie behavior weird.

I dislike this post, Matt only has three votes? DF is making it seem like he is being bandwagoned and most players are voting for him.

So, sig, do we lynch DFaraday or Matt?

Elohcin wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I have returned from colleg and am no longer a Tem. (thank god)

Eloh, do you actually think I'm tunneling you?

I think you've let up a bit since I announced my theory.

Lol, Eloh, that's not going to fly. You gotta look harder for reasons to throw suspicion my way.

I'm down for lynching LC or Eloh today.
LC - Llama interactions noted earlier, I had baddie vibes from him yesterday.
Eloh - Casting weak suspicion on me, while apparently not reading my posts. Stated that her effort won't go past lynching Matt and I. If someone has a problem with tunneling, I think it would be best to do actions that are... y'know Not declarations of "I'm going to tunnel this game!"

to go into further detail on Elo:

Elohcin wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

thellama73 wrote:What does DF have to do with any of this?

Nothing. It was a throw away vote on someone who had no votes. Sorry if you're civ but I didn't want to get involved in the close vote/ tie situation.

GOT iT!!! sriracha is a non-commital type of baddIE!!

Games solved! Lets eat CAKE!!!

Okay this is my theory. I think Matt is bad bad bad. I think Wilgy is bad bad bad. Last game I was in with Matt he was bad. He tunneled me like nothing I've ever seen before. Anyone remember that? He talked about no one and nothing by getting me lynched. I think he and Wilgy are bad together and I think he has convinced Wilgy in BTSC to tunnel me this game. I am voting Matt today. If he isn;t lynched, I will vote him tomorrow. And the next day. And once he is lynched I will go after Wilgy. If you hate that I am going to play the game this way, hate it. I don't care. I REALLY think I am right about this and I am not letting Matt survive all game as a baddie again.

A incorrect statement about my actions. I don't think I've played the tunnel game, seeing as I've already tried to pin 3 players at a time for being on the same team. I think that would've been apparent from a quick read on me, but someone please let me know if I'm incorrect here.

Elohcin wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I have returned from colleg and am no longer a Tem. (thank god)

Eloh, do you actually think I'm tunneling you?

I think you've let up a bit since I announced my theory.

I also think that this was just made up on the fly. Considering that I don't feel like I've changed my subjects since the announcement, and that now Eloh has to pay attention to me she is only now realizing that I wasn't tunneling her.
A declaration of "I'm going to tunnel now". I don't see how this has any civ motivation or intention. It's one thing to state with urgency "HEY LET'S LYNCH MATT, I ALREADY HAVE TEAMMATE THEORIES ON HIM!" but stating it the way you did, means that you are placing yourself in a area of little to no effort outside of that circle you formed for yourself. What will you do if Matt were to flip civ? would you continue with this plan? you seem quite set on it considering that "If you hate that I am going to play the game this way, hate it."

I guess the gist is, if Eloh thinks that Matt and I are bad based on me tunneling (which matches Matt's meta), a civilian wouldn't resign themselves to tunnel as a response to baddie tunneling.

A point that helps is that I feel like baddies are more inclined to respond when their name is tossed than others. I don't think many others have tossed Eloh's name in the potential pot of baddies, but when I tossed her name in she began to think that I was solely targeting her out of fear of being caught. Err... She behaved how I expect a baddie to behave in this situation.

LC is silenced. Bad or not bad, that is unbearably bad form.

It may be polar-izing, but I also think he may be bad. But I don;t stand for lynching people who can;t defend.

S~V~S wrote:LC is silenced. Bad or not bad, that is unbearably bad form.

Ehh... Ok, I can semi-support that. I just don't like the idea of letting baddie gimmicks work. Sets a pad precedent if he were to get away with it.

Lynching people who can;t defend themselves sets a worse precedent.

It is possible this is self inflicte; it is also possible it is not. It is barely possible to tell which.

*bearly

@Hosts: Would Mr.Radish's ability still work the phase after he is NK'd?

linki - I've been murked while silenced before and it kinda felt like one of those "It is what it is" type situations, but I guess it boils down to opinion though. "Which is the worse of the two evils?" type question I guess.

I don't thinkyou should have been,though. Did it happen here? Our original culture did not do that, but some of the fusion cultures might do so.

I find it unbearable uncivilized, and speak against it when it comes up, but of course I am not always,or ever, really, the decider

I agree with Wilgy. If I were to give him a chance, I don't know who I'd vote for though, and I really don't want him to be given a free pass to Day 3 just because he's silenced, since he could have done it exactly so he could have a free pass to Day 3.

I like Scotty this game. I might follow him since he's got his vote on Matt. I'll come back to it.

linki: That reminds me. Everyone is on the lynch poll by the looks of it, so Sloonei could very well be Mr Radish. From where I come from, night actions don't work if the person using them is killed.

It is unsporting and badform,imo.

I have seenmore civs set up by being silenced than baddies get away with bear faced bullshit.

Radish could also have been blocked. I had a different role in mind for Sloonei.

S~V~S wrote:It may be polar-izing, but I also think he may be bad. But I don;t stand for lynching people who can;t defend.

Which is why LC is off the table for me today.

I changed my vote to Matt for the time being. As much as I think his silencing was organised, I'll agree it's a bit of a dick move to lynch him now. He's definitely my Day 3 vote at this point.

S~V~S wrote:Radish could also have been blocked. I had a different role in mind for Sloonei.

How do you think he would have been blocked? Boh was the only roleblocker (omitting the secret roles) which, given the characters in the movie, I don't see them having a roleblocking power.

I think I get why you think that about Sloonei, but I still believe his power wouldn't work if he died.

Can hosts confirm, do players night actions carry through if they're killed?

Here that is about 50/50 re role powers going through. Bearly eboughinfo to make a decision really. Hopefully the hosts are forthcoming.

*bearly enough info.

Can someone please chime in on my Eloh thoughts. My perspective is a big part of it, so if multiple people think through/reexplain it thier own way I'll be able to judge my opinion better.

Also, bearly possible that secret roles may have a choice of powers. And powers fitting the original source is usually not done here completely as not everyone is familiar with the source,and that would hinder those who did not see it

@Hosts~ does one need to have seen the movie to understand how the roles work?

Linki ~ I think Eloh is more involved when she is bad. When she is civ she tends to lose interest unless she has BTSC.

I agree with you that Elohcin lied about your tunneling Wilgy, but I see her recovery more as damage control than changing her story. I don't think it's indicative of her alignment.

I think "lying" =/= "perceiving things differently"

S~V~S wrote:I think "lying" =/= "perceiving things differently"

True, but it was pretty clear that Wilgy has been open to all sorts of options, so I don't see how it could be perceived as such.

Sorry if I was unbearably clear,that was aimed at Wilgy,not you

Most of my thoughts come from the idea that baddies are more likely to ctrlF thier name than civvies. Something like that would definitely cause this reaction.

Lying or not lying, I don't see civ perceiving my actions that way. I think my actions would best be perceived like how Quin did in terms of civ like nature. "Hard to read due to my all over the place attitude"

Which is almost the opposite of tunneling.

Dom, SVS, Quin, and Sig what do you specifically think of this part here:
I guess the gist is, if Eloh thinks that Matt and I are bad based on me tunneling (which matches Matt's meta), a civilian wouldn't resign themselves to tunnel as a response to baddie tunneling.

Does this match civ behavior?

DrWilgy wrote:Most of my thoughts come from the idea that baddies are more likely to ctrlF thier name than civvies. Something like that would definitely cause this reaction.

Nope I do this as a civ too, Civs get falsely accused.

DrWilgy wrote:Lying or not lying, I don't see civ perceiving my actions that way. I think my actions would best be perceived like how Quin did in terms of civ like nature. "Hard to read due to my all over the place attitude"

Which is almost the opposite of tunneling.

Everyone perceives things differently.

DrWilgy wrote:Dom, SVS, Quin, and Sig what do you specifically think of this part here:
I guess the gist is, if Eloh thinks that Matt and I are bad based on me tunneling (which matches Matt's meta), a civilian wouldn't resign themselves to tunnel as a response to baddie tunneling.

Does this match civ behavior?

I think you are thinking of what is civ in very black & white terms. It feels like you are trying to suit the thread to fit your thoughts. This things can be the same, or they can be *polar* opposites.

That was unbearable!!

Fixed

DrWilgy wrote:Most of my thoughts come from the idea that baddies are more likely to ctrlF thier name than civvies. Something like that would definitely cause this reaction.

Nope I do this as a civ too, Civs get falsely accused.

DrWilgy wrote:Lying or not lying, I don't see civ perceiving my actions that way. I think my actions would best be perceived like how Quin did in terms of civ like nature. "Hard to read due to my all over the place attitude"

Which is almost the opposite of tunneling.

Everyone perceives things differently.

DrWilgy wrote:Dom, SVS, Quin, and Sig what do you specifically think of this part here:
I guess the gist is, if Eloh thinks that Matt and I are bad based on me tunneling (which matches Matt's meta), a civilian wouldn't resign themselves to tunnel as a response to baddie tunneling.

Does this match civ behavior?

I think you are thinking of what is civ in very black & white terms. It feels like you are trying to suit the thread to fit your thoughts. This things can be the same, or they can be *polar* opposites.

Like I said earlier, Wilgy, I am still with you. But you seem to have a mob mentality going on,which is something I don;t associate with you. Idon't wanttolosemy bearings here,so I am going to bed before I overthink it.