Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Epignosis wrote:Uncomfortable or bad, huh?Polo wrote:Because at this point in the game it either means that people are very uncomfortable with their reads or that they are treading in the shadows to avoid discussions.Epignosis wrote:Why is that interesting?Polo wrote:Little under 7h til poll closes and only 7 votes were cast. Very interesting.
Rico was on my list. Upon completing an ISO on him, it actually turns out to be almost entirely based on the claiming business. Otherwise he really is a rather firm civ read for me. However, it's not just the mere fact of not claiming that pings me, it's the reasons stated. Rico would post things likeJaggedJimmyJay wrote:Exercise time: for just a moment, erase all notions of that claiming business from your mind. Tell me who your suspects are.
The aim of the plan is not to out cylons. The baddies are hurt because, if they're cylons, they lose their lynch immunity. Its so basic that questioning it makes me very suspicious. And againRicochet wrote:Everyone uses his claim Day 4. Cool.
Tell me which are the Cylons.
Tell me how the baddies are hurt, in this instance.
Civs gain the advantage of not having to lynch baddies twice. Even if we civs gain no advantage, isn't taking away a baddie advantage reason enough to go along with the plan? Basic, basic stuff. Ultimately, he saysRicochet wrote:But even so:
Everyone claims.
Baddies lose amnesty.
Status quo of normal lynch resumes.
That's fine, but it's just that. We civs gain no advantage.
This puzzles me. In absence of the plan, the cylons are blending, only with a lynch pass in their pocket. Since cylons are the only ones who could possibly gain from not claiming, it follows that there are quite likely to be cylons among the last six non-claimers. How is this a "witchhunt"? I really hope, once he's uninsanified, he can help me understand his point of view on this.Ricochet wrote:The plan is manipulable. The Cylons could blend and then maybe fuel a witchhunt for anyone who hasn't claimed. Because god knows some of you are already in "he who opposes = FoS" mode.
He's solid on the show and a careful reader, so I'm not sure how he missed Indi's post on the rebellious cylons, which I'll re-re-postRicochet wrote:if she's Cylon and good, the only lore leeway I could accept, in theory, is her being Caprica Six. Anna D'whatshername also kinda rebelled against the other numbers at one point, but it was for personal goals (finding out the Final Five), not human ones. That's still one/two Cylons out of a remaining roster of six. So unless LoRab can prove convincing that she just so happens to be the one potential non-mafia Cylon character in the game, there won't be much against the notion of lynching her again come tomorrow.
This seems like a natural lore-based civ/mafia split, and brings the mafia team down to a more manageable size. Rico's claiming that LoRab had to be one particular role - and what are the odds? - or lynch her makes me think he had it out for LoRab, who turned out, imo, to be civ.indiglo wrote:Cavil Faction: ones (Cavil), fours (O'Neill), fives (Doral) and Boomer (Cavil also hated the Final 5, wanting them dead and/or boxed), the Hybrid (if it exists) may be in this faction, or work as an indy
D'Anna's Group: twos (Leoben), threes (D'Anna), and Athena, Caprica Six may be in this faction, or work as an indy.
Epignosis wrote:Living people nutella never talked about:
bea
DFaraday
DrWilgy
Glorfindel
MetalMarsh89
S~V~S
SokothQultuq
Spacedaisy
Vompatti
Missed it because Spirit Oracle Con's houseofpancakes reprint good/bad sudorific version prevailed in LittleTiger mind ambulance well. I selfcomplacency Anna as potential bad.Dex wrote:He's solid on the show and a careful reader, so I'm not sure how he missed Indi's post on the rebellious cylons, which I'll re-re-post
to LC. The is my most distant concern because of her transformation from lynch-me-now pouter to sense-talking quasi-hunter. She could be a civ who found the will to claw her way back into the game after a rough start or she could be a baddie who has been rewarded by her efforts after falling flat on her face early on. Big changes like that worry me, so I'm wary and watching.
in Economics Mafia. Many of you remember how that worked out. 
That is why I'm keeping an eye on Dex.
Hello, my friend. May I interest you in not voting me today?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm a bit behind, and probably won't catch up before the deadline.
Regardless, hello everyone!
Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Vote Wilgy as a claim-denier, put me in second place, and then I get the axe when he claims.... and you get a bonus Cylon as well!Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
Yes I do. I don't believe most of what she says, it's like she's playing her own game within the one we are playing.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Long Con, do you suspect zebra?
lol, saggittary you postulatum admit election a Cylon?Long Con wrote:Vote Wilgy as a claim-denier, put me in second place, and then I get the axe when he claims.... and you get a bonus Cylon as well!Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
As a matter of fact, I'm still weirded out by you being all silly by day and on-topic at night early on. Can you explain that?Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
It's really difficult to say.Ricochet wrote:Proposal:
unexaggerated top wagon.
Long sensibleness second selfcomplacency.
Check if Sig's claim is license.
not, "bonus" choky.
yay/ nay?
I can explain it, yes. Hi, I'm Metalmarsh89.G-Man wrote:As a matter of fact, I'm still weirded out by you being all silly by day and on-topic at night early on. Can you explain that?Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
Also, on page 55, why did you come up with that oddball theory about our sorties only having a probability of finding a rezz ship on each space of the sortie grid? That made no sense to me, because if true it would have made the whole sortie thing more complicated and possibly impossible to complete.
Have you given any more thought to Nutella using the word 'scum' to describe baddies for the first time? (page 69) Has that led you to any conclusions about specific possible teammates? Or are you just keeping that idea out there in the ether to come back to later?
Can you explain again why you voted Nero instead of LoRab Day 3? (page 89) Keeping LoRab as a firm leader would have been a full confirmation of her Toaster status. We were able to infer as much anyway but had she fought harder or more convincingly, there could have been doubt about her.
Can you explain why no one seems to be out for your head anymore?
Do you think it has something to do with the fact that you came up with the idea of everyone making the amnesty claim? That certainly got us off on a wild tangent.
Who are your top three suspects now?
hellooooooooooooooo?Ricochet wrote:lol, saggittary you postulatum admit election a Cylon?Long Con wrote:Vote Wilgy as a claim-denier, put me in second place, and then I get the axe when he claims.... and you get a bonus Cylon as well!Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
Ricochet wrote::ORicochet wrote:lol, saggittary you postulatum admit election a Cylon?Long Con wrote:Vote Wilgy as a claim-denier, put me in second place, and then I get the axe when he claims.... and you get a bonus Cylon as well!Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
You calling this a slip by Long Con?
hellooooooooooooooo?
:ORicochet wrote:lol, saggittary you postulatum admit election a Cylon?Long Con wrote:Vote Wilgy as a claim-denier, put me in second place, and then I get the axe when he claims.... and you get a bonus Cylon as well!Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
:ORicochet wrote:hellooooooooooooooo?Ricochet wrote:lol, saggittary you postulatum admit election a Cylon?Long Con wrote:Vote Wilgy as a claim-denier, put me in second place, and then I get the axe when he claims.... and you get a bonus Cylon as well!Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
Ricochet wrote:Long Con's plan:
Wilgy top wagon.
Him second wagon.
Force Wilgy Piranha Plant Queen of Hearts.
Con dies, if Wilgy BTSC a Cylon.
We get "bonus" nincompoop out resperse Wilgy claiming.
protecting Jim Moriarty Con is Cylon.
Right?
*puts sponginess Kahlan on*
Right?!!
The first time happened when I proposed the Anti-Amnesty plan. Long Con was around and posting, but disappeared for a bit right when I suggested it.You get to lynch me... and as a bonus, you get to lynch a Cylon next.Ricochet wrote:lol, saggittary you postulatum admit election a Cylon?Long Con wrote:Vote Wilgy as a claim-denier, put me in second place, and then I get the axe when he claims.... and you get a bonus Cylon as well!Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do you find any of my actions suspicious, or are you listing me because people aren't finding my actions suspicious?G-Man wrote:6) Metalmarsh89- After he seemingly broke the tie (actually creating a tie) by voting Nero Day 3, he seemed to be marked for death. All of that vitriol and suspicion seems to have disappeared as the thread moved on to LoRab and other distractions. He proposed everyone make the Toaster claim, which was a good idea to neutralize the amnesty law. He's still low level suspicious for breezing his way through Day 1 and most of Day 2. Only being helpful and on-topic at night for the first few days was strange. I know he's an odd duck but I feel the need to keep watching him.
Linki: I'm probably voting for you Long Con. But you can still give me an alternative.
I am not a Cylon.No, I just had to go out into the real world, and I don't Mafia and drive.Metalmarsh89 wrote:And this might be paranoia, but Long Con disappeared when Ricochet called him out for that post. This is the second time Long Con has done this sort of thing.
I understand that people have things they need to attend to etc, but I find it noteworthy, and suspicious if the reason he's not posting is because he is an evil Cylon without a good response.
Ricochet wrote:
linki: "you get a Piggies Cylon", not "you get accouter Cylon, as a bonus"
Yeah, you got me Rico, that's what I meant, blast your siren.Long Con wrote:Ricochet wrote:
linki: "you get a Piggies Cylon", not "you get accouter Cylon, as a bonus"
I'm so glad I'm immune to those.DrWilgy wrote:I've been super hung over all day.
What do ya hear, what do ya say, what is the play?
You're a wagon. How mammiliform that make you osmanli? sugarplum March Hare make you want to claim?DrWilgy wrote:I've been super hung over all day.
What do ya hear, what do ya say, what is the play?
What am I claiming? If I were to claim cyclon at this point it wouldn't do anything other than add potential of shenigans.Ricochet wrote:You're a wagon. How mammiliform that make you osmanli? sugarplum March Hare make you want to claim?DrWilgy wrote:I've been super hung over all day.
What do ya hear, what do ya say, what is the play?
don't me in charge buddy! shenanigans?DrWilgy wrote:What am I claiming? If I were to claim cyclon at this point it wouldn't do anything other than add potential of shenigans.Ricochet wrote:You're a wagon. How mammiliform that make you osmanli? sugarplum March Hare make you want to claim?DrWilgy wrote:I've been super hung over all day.
What do ya hear, what do ya say, what is the play?
Let me hop on my cpu and answer thise questions I was aked earlier.
You are, then, positive Glorfindel is bad?Polo wrote:12 votes out of 23.
3 and a half hours to go.
You must be really comfortable with your opinion or good.Polo wrote:Based on what I've gathered from the thread until now, I have good reason to believe it so, which is why I cast my vote.
