The Syndicate

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:30 pm I hope there's a second Cataclysm

There was.

In the Jagged Blade BTSC.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:33 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:30 pm I hope there's a second Cataclysm

There was.

In the Jagged Blade BTSC.

Absolute madman.

Me too.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] you are the one that did indeed Darkness me right? No shenanigans I'd just like to know.

That is true. I targeted people who I thought would lose their shit in the thread and amuse me. It wasn't personal.

DH was first, but

Black Rock wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:52 am Cannot be night-targeted.

Man yall really out here gunning for your boy.

So you can confirm to the thread that I have lost my win con and it won't be returned to me until you are dead?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:01 pm So you can confirm to the thread that I have lost my win con and it won't be returned to me until you are dead?

I could do that, but from a civilian's perspective, your win condition is moot.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:59 pm That is true. I targeted people who I thought would lose their shit in the thread and amuse me. It wasn't personal.

DH was first, but

Black Rock wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:52 am Cannot be night-targeted.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:01 pm So you can confirm to the thread that I have lost my win con and it won't be returned to me until you are dead?

I could do that, but from a civilian's perspective, your win condition is moot.

What do you mean?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:01 pm So you can confirm to the thread that I have lost my win con and it won't be returned to me until you are dead?

I could do that, but from a civilian's perspective, your win condition is moot.

What do you mean?

Because you're bad.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:01 pm So you can confirm to the thread that I have lost my win con and it won't be returned to me until you are dead?

I could do that, but from a civilian's perspective, your win condition is moot.

What do you mean?

Because you're bad.

But you can confirm I have no win condition right?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:01 pm So you can confirm to the thread that I have lost my win con and it won't be returned to me until you are dead?

I could do that, but from a civilian's perspective, your win condition is moot.

What do you mean?

Because you're bad.

But you can confirm I have no win condition right?

I can't confirm anything. I don't know what you've been up to (aside from murdering people, I mean).

I have no fucking win condition, you took it off me right?

At this point you fucked over my entire game and wasted what was until then a brillaint performance, the least you can do is not dance around the fact that you did that right?

Epignosis took my win condition off me so I can't win anyway. He was right, Speedchuck and Sorsha are my teammates. You can lynch us if you want. If you leave me alive I will help take down the last of the Corrupt Remnant who I am pretty certain I know, or you can lynch me after Speedchuck and lose that chance.

I don't think Lorab was Mafia. There are two left and I know who they both are. Lynch Speedchuck, then lynch who I say after that. Then lynch the other one. Then lynch me. Then civs + Epi win.

I am not going to say any names for now.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:15 pm At this point you fucked over my entire game and wasted what was until then a brillaint performance, the least you can do is not dance around the fact that you did that right?

I'm not dancing. I just can't confirm that you don't have a win condition. I don't know that for myself, which is what "confirm" means.

If you are asking if I stripped you of a win condition Day 2, then yes, I did that.

Night 2, rather.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:15 pm At this point you fucked over my entire game and wasted what was until then a brillaint performance

And that's the position I hated being in.

And the only way for it to be restored is with your death right?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:15 pm At this point you fucked over my entire game and wasted what was until then a brillaint performance

And that's the position I hated being in.

It was frustrating but I don't actually blame you. I don't know exactly why you did it, but I don't blame you. Man plays cards he is dealt.

Oh snap it's getting wild up in here. So just to be absolutely clear Mac you're admitting to being mafia with speedchuck? Why would you tell us that I'm so confused. Is speedchuck cool with this?

Dana wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:44 pm Oh snap it's getting wild up in here. So just to be absolutely clear Mac you're admitting to being mafia with speedchuck? Why would you tell us that I'm so confused. Is speedchuck cool with this?

Speedchuck is doomed regardless. I am telling you this because the other Mafia team killed Juliets and I know who they are and would like for them to die.

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:54 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:01 am I do wonder why dana and inh keep saying they're alone when they've been hanging out for the past two days.

I've been trying to wrap my head around this. They could be telling the truth, it is possible for two players to share the same square without having BTSC. But you're saying this happened two days in a row?

My very first mafia game I had civ BTSC with a different person every night and DH was mafia and convinced me he was civ and I hardcore trusted him the whole entire game until the very end when I learned he was bad all along and it really messed me up. Now I am wary of talking to anyone ever. Also I don't "keep saying" I said once that I want some friends, I just want to make sure they're good ones you know?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:22 am Also Juliets role sounded pretty good, and it wasn't. She was most def bad. Portalman didn't sound particularly sinister, either. I would be leery of lynching people based on role descriptions.

I gotta say I am not loving people lying about being alone. I have not spoken directly to anyone but the host since Night 2.

Yes exactly this about the role names. And also I am not lying, I can't speak for INH but even though I've been near people, I had no way to know who they were and I didn't want to trust chance, so I've been trying to lay low map-wise to not get killed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:52 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:44 pm Oh snap it's getting wild up in here. So just to be absolutely clear Mac you're admitting to being mafia with speedchuck? Why would you tell us that I'm so confused. Is speedchuck cool with this?

Speedchuck is doomed regardless. I am telling you this because the other Mafia team killed Juliets and I know who they are and would like for them to die.

So why not tell us who the other mafia are so that we can lynch them if you want them dead?

Leverage

If I am lynched then they will win the game. This much is known.

Also like good job though if you were mafia this whole time I knew I trusted you too much for it to be true. Man why am I so bad at this game?

Once you exhaust Epignosis's clues where will you look? You don't know anything. You're lost. You will be lambs to the slaughter.

The Corrupt Remnant have been brilliant. One died by our hand, one by the info of a lie detector. The other two will win if you don't leave me alive long enough to help you.

What a strategy

I mean it's a good one I think but this is crazy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:58 pm The Corrupt Remnant have been brilliant. One died by our hand, one by the info of a lie detector. The other two will win if you don't leave me alive long enough to help you.

Did I miss where the hosts said there were four on a team?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:58 pm The Corrupt Remnant have been brilliant. One died by our hand, one by the info of a lie detector. The other two will win if you don't leave me alive long enough to help you.

So if you guys knew who they were why haven't you been NKing them?

The only ones who would argue with me are Mafia themselves or agents of chaos like Epi, Quin and DharmaHelper.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:58 pm The Corrupt Remnant have been brilliant. One died by our hand, one by the info of a lie detector. The other two will win if you don't leave me alive long enough to help you.

Did I miss where the hosts said there were four on a team?

Maybe he is assuming they have 4 because his team had 4?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:58 pm The Corrupt Remnant have been brilliant. One died by our hand, one by the info of a lie detector. The other two will win if you don't leave me alive long enough to help you.

Did I miss where the hosts said there were four on a team?

C'mon.

Dana wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:58 pm The Corrupt Remnant have been brilliant. One died by our hand, one by the info of a lie detector. The other two will win if you don't leave me alive long enough to help you.

So if you guys knew who they were why haven't you been NKing them?

It's a numbers game. Can't let any team gain too much of a numbers advantage. The board is set up evenly right now.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:02 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:58 pm The Corrupt Remnant have been brilliant. One died by our hand, one by the info of a lie detector. The other two will win if you don't leave me alive long enough to help you.

So if you guys knew who they were why haven't you been NKing them?

It's a numbers game. Can't let any team gain too much of a numbers advantage. The board is set up evenly right now.

I don't understand, why can't you kill the other team to let your own team have an advantage? Or are you saying the hosts wouldn't let that happen?

Dana wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:02 pm

Dana wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:58 pm The Corrupt Remnant have been brilliant. One died by our hand, one by the info of a lie detector. The other two will win if you don't leave me alive long enough to help you.

So if you guys knew who they were why haven't you been NKing them?

It's a numbers game. Can't let any team gain too much of a numbers advantage. The board is set up evenly right now.

I don't understand, why can't you kill the other team to let your own team have an advantage? Or are you saying the hosts wouldn't let that happen?

One less night kill to reduce the total numbers every day. Civs much closer to victory. Just annihilating the other team early on leaves us sitting ducks.

Also I only worked out who they are for sure literally today.

We have been killing who we feel are the biggest threats to us. Corrupt Remnant have not always been that.

We have also not had every option every night due to the nature of the game.

Ultimately it's not up to me anymore. It's up to the rest of you to discuss.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:33 pm And the only way for it to be restored is with your death right?

I don't know the answer to that. I wasn't told and never asked.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:08 pm Ultimately it's not up to me anymore. It's up to the rest of you to discuss.

Wait hold on I still have questions. How did you work out who was on the other team? Also say we lynch speedchuck today and you don't tell us who's on the other mafia team for your leverage (which I still don't really understand because you're gonna have to get killed anyway for the civs + Indies to win what does staying alive a few more days do for you?), what's stopping the other team from NKing you to keep you quiet and picking off the rest of the civs and winning?

I can see who is around every night as DH alluded to. I have 6 nights of data to rule people out. Believe me or don't it's up to you.

Leaving me alive gives me time to find another purpose hopefully. That's all. There are other win conditions on the map. Given I have lost my mafia one I am asking for the time to try to find another way to win the game as a third party.

The other team won't waste a NK on me. That would be hilarious and dumb.

Lynch speedchuck. Survive the night. Decide tomorrow.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:18 pm The other team won't waste a NK on me. That would be hilarious and dumb.

I mean it makes complete sense to me. They know that you know who they are and if they kill you then you can't tell us. I don't understand how that would be dumb of them to do. Am I missing something here?