The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:52 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:51 pm Speedchuck, are you against a sig Lynch?

Today? Yes.

Would it still be "too late" if we lynch nijuu and she's the last scum for whatever the hell we would be too late for?

is speed trying to get us to lynch him and then he survives so he proves his towniness?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:56 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:52 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:51 pm Speedchuck, are you against a sig Lynch?

Today? Yes.

today but not always?

I think so. See below.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:56 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:52 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:51 pm Speedchuck, are you against a sig Lynch?

Today? Yes.

Would it still be "too late" if we lynch nijuu and she's the last scum for whatever the hell we would be too late for?

Yep.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:56 pm is speed trying to get us to lynch him and then he survives so he proves his towniness?

What would be the point of that when you guys are already sold on lynching people I think are scum? No.

is speed Pico de Orizaba? but like, we won't be able to get sig or maybe nijuu to vote for you so who are you gonna take out with you? I'm not gonna test that theory.

speedchuck if we vote for you can you gaurantee to me that it won't just be some boring disappointing bullshit and something cool will happen instead?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:00 pm speedchuck if we vote for you can you gaurantee to me that it won't just be some boring disappointing bullshit and something cool will happen instead?

dude I'm not sure anymore. I think he's aligned himself with the scum if he's Olympus and something bad will happen to us if we lynch him now. I'm not trusting him anymore.

Niju was here during the night. So it's more likely sig than her imo (though maybe someone survived it or something). I don't care what happens with speedchuck I just want to get the last maf.

Technically speaking the win conditions are vague enough that if Olympus Mons could choose alignment and join a team of their choice, the text would still be correct.

Yeah either he's Olympus trying to fulfill some weird win con, or he's pico in which case idk what his plan is if only civs vote for him. I think it must be that he's Olympus since it sounds like it has to be today for some reason

what if our win conditions is that Olympus can stay alive, but his win condition is if he does something specific he wins the whole game and it's End Game for us? o.O

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:00 pm speedchuck if we vote for you can you gaurantee to me that it won't just be some boring disappointing bullshit and something cool will happen instead?

I mean, it's not gonna be that cool. My flip will just explain everything that's going on and leave it to you guys to decide what to do with it.

None of this is really worth the effort. You should probably just lynch Sig and win.

can we lynch nijuu today and sig tomorrow? I mean he's inactive so he can't hurt us.

If I vote for speed then this could potentially be the second time I've thrown away a win by listening to Speedchuck in the endgame and making an impulsive choice.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:26 pm can we lynch nijuu today and sig tomorrow? I mean he's inactive so he can't hurt us.

Neither can Sig, apparently.

linki: There are at least 7 townies left, [mention]Kylemii[/mention]. I'm not that powerful.

I notice speed saying "you" should probably just lynch sig and win. He isn't a part of our team.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:28 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:26 pm can we lynch nijuu today and sig tomorrow? I mean he's inactive so he can't hurt us.

Neither can Sig, apparently.

linki: There are at least 7 townies left, @Kylemii. I'm not that powerful.

what do you mean? I was talking about sig. nijuu can hurt us cos she's not inactive.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:00 pm speedchuck if we vote for you can you gaurantee to me that it won't just be some boring disappointing bullshit and something cool will happen instead?

I mean, it's not gonna be that cool. My flip will just explain everything that's going on and leave it to you guys to decide what to do with it.

knowledge sucks. knowing shit is for nerds.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:29 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:28 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:26 pm can we lynch nijuu today and sig tomorrow? I mean he's inactive so he can't hurt us.

Neither can Sig, apparently.

what do you mean? I was talking about sig. nijuu can hurt us cos she's not inactive.

That's what I meant to say. Obviously Niju can't hurt us, or she would have killed someone last night.

speed do you think sig and Nijuu are actually unlikely to be the final mafia for any reason?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:31 pm speed do you think sig and Nijuu are actually unlikely to be the final mafia for any reason?

I am 99.9% certain that the final mafia is among those two.

I think it's possible nijuu targeted the wrong person last night. When she was here, she was reading me and speedchuck go back and forth mostly. I think she targeted one of us.

hmmmmmmm

we could all just not vote today. I mean what happens if we do that? try to see what happens tomorrow night. I doubt nijuu will read all this thread so we just have to make a shit load of posts and throw wild accusations everywhere and see if she takes the bait

or we can try and create a tie between sig and nijuu and leave it up to fate? since we all voted there's no "no vote" option in the poll anymore. -_-

Kyle - why nijuu?? Did you see what I was seeing?

we should end this game in the same way we played it, with wild end of day lynch trains out of nowhere

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:36 pm we could all just not vote today. I mean what happens if we do that? try to see what happens tomorrow night. I doubt nijuu will read all this thread so we just have to make a shit load of posts and throw wild accusations everywhere and see if she takes the bait

If you're going to waste a day, at least waste it on lynching me.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:31 pm speed do you think sig and Nijuu are actually unlikely to be the final mafia for any reason?

I am 99.9% certain that the final mafia is among those two.

does it hurt your position in any way if we lynch the final scum?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:41 pm we should end this game in the same way we played it, with wild end of day lynch trains out of nowhere

well eod today ends at 8am my time so I can be up at 7am I guess and see it through....

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:41 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:36 pm we could all just not vote today. I mean what happens if we do that? try to see what happens tomorrow night. I doubt nijuu will read all this thread so we just have to make a shit load of posts and throw wild accusations everywhere and see if she takes the bait

If you're going to waste a day, at least waste it on lynching me.

I wasn't actually being serious with that suggestion.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:40 pm Kyle - why nijuu?? Did you see what I was seeing?

a hunch

and i also agree with what you said

crap, I missed my 666 post. RIP dream of ending the game with the devil.

when I listed the 3 options for today i forgot the fourth option where the mafia actually did try to kill last night and failed.

new thread information reveals that this is a possibility

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:41 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:31 pm speed do you think sig and Nijuu are actually unlikely to be the final mafia for any reason?

I am 99.9% certain that the final mafia is among those two.

does it hurt your position in any way if we lynch the final scum?

Imagine that I am a man lying on the ground. One of my arms is missing. I am bleeding from several gunshot wounds. With a few days of selfless effort, you could save me and we could live this life together. Or you could shoot me in the head and everything would end.

You are, in a way, proposing the head shot. It would hurt, yes. But it would be better than just leaving me to die one day later.

I don't know if that makes any sense to anyone but me.

linki: I had nothing to do with the mafia kill or lack thereof last night.

4 failed night kills should tell you that's always an option in this game.

Why is Sig not being lynched by 100% of the people?

I wanted to go inactive this day but now you people will make me have to catch up...

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:47 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:41 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:31 pm speed do you think sig and Nijuu are actually unlikely to be the final mafia for any reason?

I am 99.9% certain that the final mafia is among those two.

does it hurt your position in any way if we lynch the final scum?

Imagine that I am a man lying on the ground. One of my arms is missing. I am bleeding from several gunshot wounds. With a few days of selfless effort, you could save me and we could live this life together. Or you could shoot me in the head and everything would end.

You are, in a way, proposing the head shot. It would hurt, yes. But it would be better than just leaving me to die one day later.

I don't know if that makes any sense to anyone but me.

linki: I had nothing to do with the mafia kill or lack thereof last night.

why did you argue my point yesterday when I proposed to lynch you ahead of nijuu or sig then? That's what I don't get.

Why did you go for the emotional plea of "please, please lynch me so I can see dunya's reaction"

What is in my reaction for you to see?

or maybe i'm just reading into things too much

i don't think there's any huge risk associated with any decisions we might make today

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:49 pm Why is Sig not being lynched by 100% of the people?

I wanted to go inactive this day but now you people will make me have to catch up...

I'll catch you up.

I'm trying to get lynched so that I can roleflip.
Dunya has built a case on Niju. If it's anything like her case on me it's probably a ton of confirmation bias. (kidding)

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:49 pm Why is Sig not being lynched by 100% of the people?

I wanted to go inactive this day but now you people will make me have to catch up...

why are you trying to go inactive? do you want sloonei to come back from his grave and shake you?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:50 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:49 pm Why is Sig not being lynched by 100% of the people?

I wanted to go inactive this day but now you people will make me have to catch up...

I'll catch you up.

I'm trying to get lynched so that I can roleflip.
Dunya has built a case on Niju. If it's anything like her case on me it's probably a ton of confirmation bias. (kidding)

If you are who you're implying you are, my case was actually on point; you're not town.

this is probably the most effort that's ever been put into a lynch that will likely end in killing an inactive

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:49 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:47 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:41 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:31 pm speed do you think sig and Nijuu are actually unlikely to be the final mafia for any reason?

I am 99.9% certain that the final mafia is among those two.

does it hurt your position in any way if we lynch the final scum?

Imagine that I am a man lying on the ground. One of my arms is missing. I am bleeding from several gunshot wounds. With a few days of selfless effort, you could save me and we could live this life together. Or you could shoot me in the head and everything would end.

You are, in a way, proposing the head shot. It would hurt, yes. But it would be better than just leaving me to die one day later.

I don't know if that makes any sense to anyone but me.

linki: I had nothing to do with the mafia kill or lack thereof last night.

why did you argue my point yesterday when I proposed to lynch you ahead of nijuu or sig then? That's what I don't get.

Why did you go for the emotional plea of "please, please lynch me so I can see dunya's reaction"

What is in my reaction for you to see?

I had assumed something before that I found not to be true. That is LITERALLY all I can say. At the time, I was vehemently opposed to being lynched.
Then I tried to fake an emotional plea to get myself lynched when I realized I was wrong, but in doing so I made everyone playing feel bad and concerned.
Then I tried laying all my cards on the table. Still didn't work.
Now I'm trying to lay down my last card in the only way the rules allow.

Does this clear things up?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:52 pm this is probably the most effort that's ever been put into a lynch that will likely end in killing an inactive

uhhhhh no. remember when everyone lynched mesk (and it was between dom and mesk)? that was the most effort--we'd had a 12-day day 1 and an inactive was lynched.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:51 pm If you are who you're implying you are, my case was actually on point; you're not town.

Your case was built on interactions with my 'scummates.' I am not aligned with Eloh, Wilgy, JJJ, and (probably) Sig.

I really did feel bad. I'm sorry. I couldn't sleep till I made sure you weren't legit upset with me. If you are 3P tho, it explains my mixed feelings of unease about you.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:55 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:51 pm If you are who you're implying you are, my case was actually on point; you're not town.

Your case was built on interactions with my 'scummates.' I am not aligned with Eloh, Wilgy, JJJ, and (probably) Sig.

but you played the game without a solid sense of direction, so of course an ISO will try to build a case against you and show out your inconsistencies in relation to everything else (I paid more attention to your individual iso than what teammates said about you although it still freaks me out how in your list of player reads you wrote "GOOD" in front of Wilgy and Eloh and only Wily and Eloh--care to explain that now??). I guess you played in a way to make sure you wouldn't get NKd, and also try not to get lynched. It's hard. I applaud you.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:55 pm I really did feel bad. I'm sorry. I couldn't sleep till I made sure you weren't legit upset with me. If you are 3P tho, it explains my mixed feelings of unease about you.

I'm sorry. I tried to make a post that would feel all fake and conniving and evil and manipulative, with a disclaimer that I wasn't upset. Then I showed it to my wife, and she said it sounded like I was depressed, angry, and giving up.

I'm really sorry about that.