The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:41 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:39 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:36 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:34 pm Was there any role card provided after tutuu death?

You know what would be the most helpful thing right now? If you voted.

Aren't you being a little too excited?

I'm not excited at all. I'm drinking bourbon and recording music.

What I mean by that is that it would give me a clear picture of who your biggest suspect is if you just voted.

I'm sorry if I sounded impatient with you.

Tbh I see Hally in most worlds. I might end up voting for her. I think ash is town cause scum would not be stupid if they survived this long in a game they won't be throwing it now with such obvious thing.

Now I don't see you and Arete scum together, but there's one among you.

Hally I agree that your actions make sense from the PoV of a town doc I just don't think it makes sense for the game to have another town doc with the roles we already have

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:44 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:42 pm Olay I think, Hally started this two doc thingy from last day? And she made it seem like she would protect nook with all that voting, but instead saved herself even after knowing that she would get scum read, and people told them that they wouldn't lock town read her. But I think it's all a bluff she might just have an immunity and tried to make it seem like she wants to save nook.

well i didn’t know nook would be the other one infected, but i knew i was soooooo

you can figure it out

Nah, you knew that all along you would not have brought the thing at all. And you know what's more interesting than that? You not getting mod killed or warned after all this. You must be lying about your claim.

Arete wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:47 pm Hally I agree that your actions make sense from the PoV of a town doc I just don't think it makes sense for the game to have another town doc with the roles we already have

Exactly, two docs is never balanced. Specially with only 3 PRs

I will be back after studying for a bit.

Given the current standings, Hally you're doomed.

gg

there’s nothing i can do

see ya in 48 hours for post game

OK, I'm gonna do a trustfall/distrustfall thing.

Hally:

Trustfall - Seemed very tonally townie up until Tony flipped. Has a power role that I wouldn't normally expect a wolf to have.
Distrustfall - Pushed back significantly on Tony's lynch. Has felt very deflated since Tony's flip. If indeed town, the setup would probably be unbalanced. She's voting me and I probably mechanically need to crossvote lol.

Arete:

Trustfall: Vulgard Godread. I still don't believe she approaches EoD 1 that way with Tony as partner. Seems to still be focused on solving the game and not just pushing who she knows she needs to lynch.
Distrustfall: Ted and Wilgy died and were scumreading her.

Epignosis:

Trustfall: Made a good case on 112 shortly after Tony's flip.
Distrustfall: Is hard pushing people with no real logic behind the cases. Looks very agenda-driven.

Poison:
Trustfall: Has seemed very tonally pure, meta reads from confirmed townies say she is way out of her scum range. Voted Tony.
Distrustfall: ...Maybe saved her partner Hally on d3? I don't have anything strong here.

Yeah, that makes me think Hally/Epi is probably correct.

The agenda is I don't like Mafia anymore.

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:57 pm Yeah, that makes me think Hally/Epi is probably correct.

Congrats on the win, Scarface.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:00 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:57 pm Yeah, that makes me think Hally/Epi is probably correct.

Congrats on the win, Scarface.

What, are you outing?

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:01 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:00 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:57 pm Yeah, that makes me think Hally/Epi is probably correct.

Congrats on the win, Scarface.

What, are you outing?

That's against the rules.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:02 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:01 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:00 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:57 pm Yeah, that makes me think Hally/Epi is probably correct.

Congrats on the win, Scarface.

What, are you outing?

That's against the rules.

that's not a no

Arete wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:02 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:01 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:00 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:57 pm Yeah, that makes me think Hally/Epi is probably correct.

Congrats on the win, Scarface.

What, are you outing?

That's against the rules.

that's not a no

(this is a serious read in case that wasn't clear)

Ash also didn't get the joke.

And you're Hally's teammate.

lol scarface = mafia

epi is saying ash is mafia not himself

votes aren’t even locked so mafia is not gonna out lol

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:04 pm [VOTE: Hally] aubergine

may as well lol

why is this day 48 hours lol

i should have just died

I think Poison is making a mistake.

Ash and Arete are mafia. That's my final answer.

[mention]Poison[/mention]
[mention]Hally[/mention]

Can we lynch one of these two please?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:11 pm @Poison
@Hally

Can we lynch one of these two please?

i would like to but im pretty sure we aren’t convincing poison

man ted is gonna kill us for not listening to him about arete if it’s them

sorry ted

ted GOAT everyone else WOAT

well not everyone

just me lol

[VOTE: Ash] aubergine

There's always tomorrow.

I think Poison is trying to solve G-Man and not the current situation and I think that's a mistake.

Arete attempts to do VCA (and probably comes to a bunch of wrong conclusions)









okay

(this is all ignoring my actual reads)

on a level-1 level Poison + Ash being on the wolf on D1 is a better look for them, Hally being on the CW is a worse look, and Epi being way off wagon is a slightly worse look for them

that said it's LyLo so I don't want to be like 'wolves never vote wolves, Ash and Poison are locktown'

on a slightly higher level I think the context of the EoD points to Ash and Hally not being aligned? like, Ash was spending basically all of D1 dunking on TSP, while Hally was spending EoD1 being like 'CFD the two poster,' and I think that's kind of bizarre if they're partners

that's not VCA per se but I think it's true

semi-points to Poison/Hally not being a thing since one would be bussing while the other would be trying to CFD the 2-poster, but I don't think that's nearly as strong of a case as the case against Ash/Hally since that could just be individual preferences for deepwolfing vs. powerwolfing

D2 is V/V wagons, I don't think scum would have had a strong preference for LC vs. Michelle (maybe there's something I'm missing, I don't actually remember their reads). normally I'd say people off-wagon in V/V wagons are sus but we didn't have anyone off wagon, so. I do think it's weak evidence against an Ash/Poison team since I find it hard to believe that literally all three wolves would stack on Michelle over LC with V/V Michelle and LC.

EoD3 is another interesting one because Hally was one of the two main wagons (and now I feel kind of dumb because I'm pretty sure I was the vote that saved Hally? don't remember for certain). I think this is more evidence against Ash/Hally, Ash's vote legitimately put Hally in danger and I would be surprised if Ash bussed both his teammates back to back for no reason, when he was already (on D3) widely townread post-Tony flip. Epi and Poison are both voting the CW to Hally, I think given how close the vote was that raises the equity of them being teamed with Hally. it might slightly lower the equity of an Epi/Poison team? I don't really see why they both stack on LC there if they're wolves, and separately I think wolves would have seen Hally as a more valuable kill than LC.

EoD4 is V/V wagons again (we should have just killed Epi like I wanted to), again the only off-wagon person is a dead villager. This is maybe slight points against a Hally/Epi team? but their other votes have enough partner equity that I'm not ruling it out. Ash and Poison are voting together again, it's honestly kind of funny at this point? if they're wolves they decided to just always vote together to mess with people, and I don't think I actually believe that.


so to sum up (this is ignoring my actual reads on people)

all theoretical teams

Ash/Hally
Ash/Epi
Ash/Poison

Hally/Epi
Hally/Poison

Epi/Poison

teams I think actually make sense from VCA


Ash/Epi

Hally/Epi
Hally/Poison (some things make it unlikely but can't totally rule it out)

Epi/Poison

this is actually really good because I'm pretty confident in ruling out Hally/Ash at this point

so if I combine that post with my actual reads it's probably just Hally/Epi (which is also consistent with how Epi is playing today IMO)

Equity.

Arete wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:36 pm this is actually really good because I'm pretty confident in ruling out Hally/Ash at this point

so if I combine that post with my actual reads it's probably just Hally/Epi (which is also consistent with how Epi is playing today IMO)

"It's probably just" means "I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about."

Double adverbs folks. Never doubt that shit.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:39 pm

Arete wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:36 pm this is actually really good because I'm pretty confident in ruling out Hally/Ash at this point

so if I combine that post with my actual reads it's probably just Hally/Epi (which is also consistent with how Epi is playing today IMO)

"It's probably just" means "I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about."

I mean yes

I don't know what I'm talking about

I'm making my best guess based on the evidence I have

but your attempt at shade is noted

Arete wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:42 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:39 pm

Arete wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:36 pm this is actually really good because I'm pretty confident in ruling out Hally/Ash at this point

so if I combine that post with my actual reads it's probably just Hally/Epi (which is also consistent with how Epi is playing today IMO)

"It's probably just" means "I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about."

I mean yes

I don't know what I'm talking about

I'm making my best guess based on the evidence I have

but your attempt at shade is noted

I called you mafia.

I didn't "attempt shade."

Or if it is, note it all you please. I don't give a shit.

can we just end the day

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:46 pm can we just end the day

No, we can't. Stop posting if you don't have anything useful to say.

That was rude of me. I apologize.

no you’re right

epi is so obviously a villager but only from my pov as town

like i get why a villager who doesn’t know im town could think he is a wolf but like, he’s not. not ever

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:55 pm like i get why a villager who doesn’t know im town could think he is a wolf but like, he’s not. not ever

There's a civilian voting for you. We need that civilian to vote alongside me. I don't even have any votes right now.

Epi

Why are you so confident that Hally is town