Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 5]
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:39 am
[mention]MacDougall[/mention] nice job mate
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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So you're saying you're being suspected for the wrong reasons?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:14 am The ironic thing is that people scumreading me think I'm the AM and my actions are more compatible with being on the Master team than the AM team tbh
Yes.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:16 amSo you're saying you're being suspected for the wrong reasons?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:14 am The ironic thing is that people scumreading me think I'm the AM and my actions are more compatible with being on the Master team than the AM team tbh![]()
This is an excellent question.Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:53 pmQuestion:JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:46 pmIf this happens I recommend nutella.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:49 pm
The Monitor - You cannot be nightkilled by regular means. By the end of Day 1, you will choose two players to be Harbinger and Pariah. They will know who you are.
If Harbinger is alive, and has not been found by the Anti-Monitor at the start of Day 6, she will choose one player to resurrect.
If they rez SVS and she then dies again later-- do we get another role?
...you and sloonei did too?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:00 am Colin voted Radishes D2 and sig D3. He's the clearest Master team suspect purely by voting pattern.
Lassie would be a strong pick too.Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:18 amThis is an excellent question.Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:53 pmQuestion:JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:46 pmIf this happens I recommend nutella.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:49 pm
The Monitor - You cannot be nightkilled by regular means. By the end of Day 1, you will choose two players to be Harbinger and Pariah. They will know who you are.
If Harbinger is alive, and has not been found by the Anti-Monitor at the start of Day 6, she will choose one player to resurrect.
If they rez SVS and she then dies again later-- do we get another role?
@Long Con ?
Wow... you're telling me nanook has good compatability to be sig's remaining teammate and you/sloonei/ted are Mac's?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:16 amSo you're saying you're being suspected for the wrong reasons?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:14 am The ironic thing is that people scumreading me think I'm the AM and my actions are more compatible with being on the Master team than the AM team tbh![]()
I haven't listed who I think the scum may be but if it turns out they all voted Mac I will have to make some adjustments.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:43 pmAside from Colin, you are townreading the entire Sig wagon?juliets wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:37 pm I think the only person I can totally and completely clear is @Dom . He suspected both Mac and sig and I can't read that blue color on the vote pictures but I think he voted Mac and then sig. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I have some other people I think are civ but it's hard to totally clear anyone of being bad without info.
In my "I think they are town but can't completely clear them" would be @JaggedJimmyJay, @Sloonei, @Jackofhearts2005. Jay and Sloonei have done a lot of analysis work and Jay in particular I find myself shaking my head "yes" at a lot of his posts (I wanted to try and pull some out tonight.) Jackofhearts because his turnaround on nutella had good progression and he's been a thread driver and I didn't notice bad Jack doing that in Inception. All three of these have just voted on one side of the aisle which is why I don't feel like I can clear them.
Then there are people that I lean town on for something they've done recently and that would be @speedchuck and @Michelle.
I pointed out earlier that speed made that offhand comment in our dream thread saying "why are the lynching sig - I wish I could be there" (paraphrase). It was a throw away comment but I when I back here and saw sprityo's flip it was the first thing I thought about. It seemed genuine in response to Saito's info. He voted Mac Day 2 and sig Day 3.
Michelle really showed her feisty, poking, prodding civ behavior when we were at the dream level, even if it was aimed at me. Prior to that I had suspicions about her. I hope to see more of that Michelle now that we're back in the big thread to confirm my feeling about her. She voted for Turnip Day 2 and Mac Day 3 so chances are if she's bad she's on the Radish-sig-sabie team.
I'm going to go ahead and post this even though it doesn't talk about everyone because I'm so slow. I have a number of people in my "still sorting" pile.
You think when Sig was damn near buried and a metric fuckton of players collectively shrugged at the Mac case and voted Sig, that no wolves were among those players except maybe Colin?
Cause Mac had 3 teammates. I think there was more than one wolf who voted Sig. Is have an easier time believing three wolves on that wagon than one.
lolDom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:49 amWow... you're telling me nanook has good compatability to be sig's remaining teammate and you/sloonei/ted are Mac's?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:16 amSo you're saying you're being suspected for the wrong reasons?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:14 am The ironic thing is that people scumreading me think I'm the AM and my actions are more compatible with being on the Master team than the AM team tbh![]()
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I've used your colorized vote post several times as a reference since we've been back.G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:05 pmOutside of Day 4, I am still trying to tread water. I’ve been trying to catch up, but today of all days has made that difficult. I feel like the colorized vote post that I made and my reflections on our Day 4 mini-thread were overlooked at best because my name isn’t Jay, Sloonei, Jack, Ted, or Nanook.
Tony, how would they know who the AM is? Or maybe I should ask what is the evidence for this?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:03 amI think it is highly likely that that scum team is aware or reasonably confident of the identity of the antimonitor. The rest of the team will be scared off because of what happened to Sig but Mac has no reason to be scared like such.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:43 pmThe confirmed scum player has no reason to lie?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pmMac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 pmWhat evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?
I’m interested in the high compatibility bit. Hopefully I’ll look into it myself one of these days.
Absolutely!Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:18 amThis is an excellent question.Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:53 pmQuestion:JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:46 pmIf this happens I recommend nutella.Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:49 pm
The Monitor - You cannot be nightkilled by regular means. By the end of Day 1, you will choose two players to be Harbinger and Pariah. They will know who you are.
If Harbinger is alive, and has not been found by the Anti-Monitor at the start of Day 6, she will choose one player to resurrect.
If they rez SVS and she then dies again later-- do we get another role?
@Long Con ?
How? They shoot him and he doesn't die (write-up). But I don't have any serious suspicion of Nanook.juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:56 amI've used your colorized vote post several times as a reference since we've been back.G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:05 pmOutside of Day 4, I am still trying to tread water. I’ve been trying to catch up, but today of all days has made that difficult. I feel like the colorized vote post that I made and my reflections on our Day 4 mini-thread were overlooked at best because my name isn’t Jay, Sloonei, Jack, Ted, or Nanook.
Tony, how would they know who the AM is? Or maybe I should ask what is the evidence for this?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:03 amI think it is highly likely that that scum team is aware or reasonably confident of the identity of the antimonitor. The rest of the team will be scared off because of what happened to Sig but Mac has no reason to be scared like such.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:43 pmThe confirmed scum player has no reason to lie?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pmMac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 pmWhat evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?
I’m interested in the high compatibility bit. Hopefully I’ll look into it myself one of these days.
I'll finish going through my thoughts about people this morning.
Interestingly, this has been JJJ's point.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:21 pmThat came to mind?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 pm Something comes to mind. In a world where people want to save Mac, the Day 2 lynch is the more interesting one. Mac led by at least three votes late before he was overtaken by a quick Radish push. I’ll look at it later.
Nobody wanted to save Mac. Mac was doomed.
Oh of course. I wasn't even thinking of that.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:55 amHow? They shoot him and he doesn't die (write-up). But I don't have any serious suspicion of Nanook.juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:56 amI've used your colorized vote post several times as a reference since we've been back.G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:05 pmOutside of Day 4, I am still trying to tread water. I’ve been trying to catch up, but today of all days has made that difficult. I feel like the colorized vote post that I made and my reflections on our Day 4 mini-thread were overlooked at best because my name isn’t Jay, Sloonei, Jack, Ted, or Nanook.
Tony, how would they know who the AM is? Or maybe I should ask what is the evidence for this?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:03 amI think it is highly likely that that scum team is aware or reasonably confident of the identity of the antimonitor. The rest of the team will be scared off because of what happened to Sig but Mac has no reason to be scared like such.Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:43 pmThe confirmed scum player has no reason to lie?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:39 pmMac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.
I’m interested in the high compatibility bit. Hopefully I’ll look into it myself one of these days.
I'll finish going through my thoughts about people this morning.
A point I super disagree with. Mac is a good dancer.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:57 amInterestingly, this has been JJJ's point.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:21 pmThat came to mind?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 pm Something comes to mind. In a world where people want to save Mac, the Day 2 lynch is the more interesting one. Mac led by at least three votes late before he was overtaken by a quick Radish push. I’ll look at it later.
Nobody wanted to save Mac. Mac was doomed.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:36 amYes.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:16 amSo you're saying you're being suspected for the wrong reasons?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:14 am The ironic thing is that people scumreading me think I'm the AM and my actions are more compatible with being on the Master team than the AM team tbh![]()
You get it.
I agree with two thirds of that!speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:18 amNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:36 amYes.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:16 amSo you're saying you're being suspected for the wrong reasons?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:14 am The ironic thing is that people scumreading me think I'm the AM and my actions are more compatible with being on the Master team than the AM team tbh![]()
You get it.I still think this is a bit scummy, but I laughed at it too. I like you guys and hope you both get lynched.
Dom, I do not understand the questions you ask sometimes. Like, I don’t know where this came from.Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:49 amWow... you're telling me nanook has good compatability to be sig's remaining teammate and you/sloonei/ted are Mac's?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:16 amSo you're saying you're being suspected for the wrong reasons?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:14 am The ironic thing is that people scumreading me think I'm the AM and my actions are more compatible with being on the Master team than the AM team tbh![]()
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I’m doing my job. Use it after you mislynch me. I don’t give a crap who I voted for lol, I’m not suspicious of myself.Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:47 am...someone wanna tell me wtf Jay is doing analyzing anyone for compatibility with Mac and why Sloonei isn't on his list?
Do you have the Take Five Bomb?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:01 am I’m going to laugh when folks have to completely change gears. I’ve given you the tools.
Turnip Head is going to be lynched whether I am or not. I guarantee it.
No, but I do have my role card.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:03 amDo you have the Take Five Bomb?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:01 am I’m going to laugh when folks have to completely change gears. I’ve given you the tools.
Turnip Head is going to be lynched whether I am or not. I guarantee it.
I see three with potential and one with clarity!Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:06 amNo, but I do have my role card.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:03 amDo you have the Take Five Bomb?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:01 am I’m going to laugh when folks have to completely change gears. I’ve given you the tools.
Turnip Head is going to be lynched whether I am or not. I guarantee it.
You’re going to be l y n c h e d by voters in all universes unless the opposing mafia team decides to kill you
The world will know the truth, and for that I am at peace.
ThAt'S a BaD rEaSoN tO tOwNrEaD mEjuliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:15 am Looking at the sig wagon, aside from Colin I could see speedchuck as a possible addition. My town lean on him is stemming more from his sprityo post in our other thread than his entire ISO. I'll take a look at his ISO but I think that will probably be tomorrow unless someone see's this as urgent.
Is it two of the T's? Which ones?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.
Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.
I agree that it's not great but it had such an impact on me. Anyway, as I said above I will reconsider you looking at your whole ISO. Is there a reason some of your letters are capitalized?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:57 amThAt'S a BaD rEaSoN tO tOwNrEaD mEjuliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:15 am Looking at the sig wagon, aside from Colin I could see speedchuck as a possible addition. My town lean on him is stemming more from his sprityo post in our other thread than his entire ISO. I'll take a look at his ISO but I think that will probably be tomorrow unless someone see's this as urgent.
I'm making fun of someone else. Don't worry about it.juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:02 pmI agree that it's not great but it had such an impact on me. Anyway, as I said above I will reconsider you looking at your whole ISO. Is there a reason some of your letters are capitalized?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:57 amThAt'S a BaD rEaSoN tO tOwNrEaD mEjuliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:15 am Looking at the sig wagon, aside from Colin I could see speedchuck as a possible addition. My town lean on him is stemming more from his sprityo post in our other thread than his entire ISO. I'll take a look at his ISO but I think that will probably be tomorrow unless someone see's this as urgent.
Tranq and TH.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:59 amIs it two of the T's? Which ones?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.
Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.
As for the wagons themselves... I'm okay with lynching Jay, but not lynching sig seems really weird.
speedchuckJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:13 pmTranq and TH.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:59 amIs it two of the T's? Which ones?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.
Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.
As for the wagons themselves... I'm okay with lynching Jay, but not lynching sig seems really weird.
Can you give us a rainbow or proposed players for each team? I’m picking up your opinions on specific issues but not where you’re at overall.
Gth, who are the remaining players on each mafia.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:18 pmspeedchuckJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:13 pmTranq and TH.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:59 amIs it two of the T's? Which ones?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.
Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.
As for the wagons themselves... I'm okay with lynching Jay, but not lynching sig seems really weird.
Can you give us a rainbow or proposed players for each team? I’m picking up your opinions on specific issues but not where you’re at overall.
Dom
Jackofhearts2005
G-Man
Epignosis
juliets
Dragomir
ColinIsCool
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
Tranq
Michelle
Turnip Head
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0
JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr
sig
Something like that. It's difficult, since there are two teams, and there are multiple players in there I don't recall reading any posts from. Lots of players in this game. Proposed players for each team would be harder still.
I think my individual takes are probably more useful.
he’s still on the players list. It threw off my numbers one time.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:22 pmGth, who are the remaining players on each mafia.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:18 pmspeedchuckJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:13 pmTranq and TH.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:59 amIs it two of the T's? Which ones?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.
Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.
As for the wagons themselves... I'm okay with lynching Jay, but not lynching sig seems really weird.
Can you give us a rainbow or proposed players for each team? I’m picking up your opinions on specific issues but not where you’re at overall.
Dom
Jackofhearts2005
G-Man
Epignosis
juliets
Dragomir
ColinIsCool
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
Tranq
Michelle
Turnip Head
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0
JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr
sig
Something like that. It's difficult, since there are two teams, and there are multiple players in there I don't recall reading any posts from. Lots of players in this game. Proposed players for each team would be harder still.
I think my individual takes are probably more useful.
Keep in mind that Drago is dead...