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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:41 pm
by Sloonei
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:40 pm No offense Sloonei but you talk about c4 not making an effort to push their reads, but you've yet to actually push Neeko in any meaningful way to push your worldview that Neeko is Mafia.
A great man around here has often said that hypocrisy is a staple of the civilian playbook.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:43 pm
by LinearPoint
You know what, if you make a full read on Neeko at least you'll be doing better than Mac who just echo'd Urist's read and left.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:45 pm
by LinearPoint
Pretty sure nobody currently voting Neeko has given a reason outside of "Obviously Urist was killed by LP"
Neeko would like to point out again that NAA used their ability on Alison which would mean mafia knew NAA's role and probably just killed NAA since that role is actually pretty strong at possibly getting 2 green checks a cycle.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:47 pm
by Sloonei
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:45 pm Pretty sure nobody currently voting Neeko has given a reason outside of "Obviously Urist was killed by LP"
Neeko would like to point out again that NAA used their ability on Alison which would mean mafia knew NAA's role and probably just killed NAA since that role is actually pretty strong at possibly getting 2 green checks a cycle.
I promise you that my vote is there for a reason. Have patience.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:48 pm
by LinearPoint
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:47 pm
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:45 pm Pretty sure nobody currently voting Neeko has given a reason outside of "Obviously Urist was killed by LP"
Neeko would like to point out again that NAA used their ability on Alison which would mean mafia knew NAA's role and probably just killed NAA since that role is actually pretty strong at possibly getting 2 green checks a cycle.
I promise you that my vote is there for a reason. Have patience.
yeah, mostly just the others haven't really said anything. Neeko trusts you will go through with a post of reason at some point since you did for c4.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:54 pm
by DrWilgy
@Sloonei what's your take on me?

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:54 pm
by alexa
Justplayingitcool wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:36 am Oh hi radishes

I have determined to read both you and c4’s iso because i think i can read you both decently well

Probably will check marmot’s iso if he is playing as well
this would be a weird comment for someone who rolled scum with marmot to make

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:55 pm
by Sloonei
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:54 pm @Sloonei what's your take on me?
Most definitely a doctor.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:57 pm
by dyachei
i like that case from sloonei

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:58 pm
by Justplayingitcool
If C4 ends up being mafia, I will sus TSP even further

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:04 pm
by Sloonei
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum
Then after hearing a reason for c4 to be scum:
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 pm lol did you just make a progression case on c4
:suspish:

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:05 pm
by Justplayingitcool
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:04 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum
Then after hearing a reason for c4 to be scum:
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 pm lol did you just make a progression case on c4
:suspish:
Yes I remember what I said. What is the issue?

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:07 pm
by Sloonei
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:04 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum
Then after hearing a reason for c4 to be scum:
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 pm lol did you just make a progression case on c4
:suspish:
Yes I remember what I said. What is the issue?
You requested reasons for why c4 should be scum. I provided a reason. You dismissed it unconditionally.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:09 pm
by Justplayingitcool
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:07 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:04 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum
Then after hearing a reason for c4 to be scum:
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 pm lol did you just make a progression case on c4
:suspish:
Yes I remember what I said. What is the issue?
You requested reasons for why c4 should be scum. I provided a reason. You dismissed it unconditionally.
Because I thought it was funny due to who you made the case against :shrug2:

I have my thoughts on it but would rather hear C4's response.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:12 pm
by dyachei
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:07 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:04 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum
Then after hearing a reason for c4 to be scum:
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 pm lol did you just make a progression case on c4
:suspish:
Yes I remember what I said. What is the issue?
You requested reasons for why c4 should be scum. I provided a reason. You dismissed it unconditionally.
you have seen c4's signature, right?

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:19 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:26 pm And do scum even have a reason to claim an anonymous misfire?
Yeah, this question

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:20 pm
by Sloonei
My suspicion of LinearPoint is based on one small episode in this thread. It's the only interaction I've had with them, and admittedly I have very little sense of what else they have done in this game, so all of this should be taken with a couple grains of salt. You could also call this an OMGUS if you wanted to.
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:49 am
Sloonei wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:12 pm Dizzy is town by default
This is a really odd dismissal of the scum reads on Dizzy D1.

Actually the more Neeko reads this ISO the worse it becomes.
A lot of it is just saying "X is town" with no elaboration then sheeping them.
It's boarderline too lazy to be wolf posts. They are actually just coasting lol.
It is the middle line that I object to. And I objected to it in the moment as well.
LP responds:
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:52 am
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:51 am
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:49 am A lot of it is just saying "X is town" with no elaboration then sheeping them.
This has happened a maximum of one time.
Well, 1 person but like 3 seperate times you posted the exact phrase "Nutella is town"
And that's basically the end of it. These posts exist, but they do not mean anything to me.

My problem with this is that LinearPoint introduced a potential suspicion of me based on a perception that does not seem to be entirely accurate, and that I would fail to see as suspicious even if it were accurate. When questioned on it, the subject was promptly forgotten and ignored.
The timing of this exchange is also a factor for me. This happened about an hour after Dyslexicon was shot and flipped mafia. I would think that, at that time, Dizzy's teammates would be prowling for other suspects to latch onto, as several players were being cleared as a result of the flip. Up until this moment, I was a very viable "low hanging fruit" option in the game. I would consider myself to have been vulnerable to false suspicion from Dyslexicon's teammates at exactly the moment LinearPoint began to pursue a bogus suspicion against me.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:20 pm
by c4e5g3d5
Guys I think ilario might be town

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:21 pm
by Sloonei
dyachei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:07 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:04 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum
Then after hearing a reason for c4 to be scum:
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 pm lol did you just make a progression case on c4
:suspish:
Yes I remember what I said. What is the issue?
You requested reasons for why c4 should be scum. I provided a reason. You dismissed it unconditionally.
you have seen c4's signature, right?
I have now.

I disagree with it.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:21 pm
by Justplayingitcool
Good timing

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:22 pm
by dyachei
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:21 pm
dyachei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:07 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:04 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum
Then after hearing a reason for c4 to be scum:
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 pm lol did you just make a progression case on c4
:suspish:
Yes I remember what I said. What is the issue?
You requested reasons for why c4 should be scum. I provided a reason. You dismissed it unconditionally.
you have seen c4's signature, right?
I have now.

I disagree with it.
i mean, so do I. but I took jpic's comment as a joke about that, not dismissing your case unconditionally

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:22 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:15 pm 112
alexa - Mech and shot town with event vig
Belzy - Mech
c4e5g3d5 - Shot town with event vig
Creature
DrWilgy
dyachei - Shot wolf
falcon45ca
Guillotine - Mech? Meh
hollowkatt - Mech
ilario - Shot wolf
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Master Radishes
Paopan - Mech
Phil and Gloria
Porscha - Mech
sabie12
sig - Shot town
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
Wait there’s Pao mech?

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:22 pm
by c4e5g3d5
This attention is appreciated, I love nothing more than attention, but I'm self resolving.

I obviously won't specify more unless in immediate danger of dying to town KP.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:23 pm
by Sloonei
dyachei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:21 pm
dyachei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:12 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:07 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:04 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum
Then after hearing a reason for c4 to be scum:
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 pm lol did you just make a progression case on c4
:suspish:
Yes I remember what I said. What is the issue?
You requested reasons for why c4 should be scum. I provided a reason. You dismissed it unconditionally.
you have seen c4's signature, right?
I have now.

I disagree with it.
i mean, so do I. but I took jpic's comment as a joke about that, not dismissing your case unconditionally
Yeah I know, I see that now. I didn't at the time though.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:23 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:27 pm Bit worried about TSP having 369 posts but being low impact
If I had a nickel for every time I’ve heard this

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:23 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:23 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:27 pm Bit worried about TSP having 369 posts but being low impact
If I had a nickel for every time I’ve heard this
Also mr pot kettle

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:24 pm
by Sloonei
c4e5g3d5 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:22 pm This attention is appreciated, I love nothing more than attention, but I'm self resolving.

I obviously won't specify more unless in immediate danger of dying to town KP.
I do not want you to claim or self resolve or anything. I just want you to show me that you're trying to read people.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:24 pm
by c4e5g3d5
Unvoting Wilgy
And why the fuck is 112 a wagon

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:25 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:31 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:27 pm Has anyone seen TSP wolf? Can they highpost this enough?
TSP highposts as a wolf and not so much when town iirc
Someone post Anni post count

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:25 pm
by Justplayingitcool
Ironically i thought that c4 post was mildly wolfy

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:25 pm
by c4e5g3d5
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:24 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:22 pm This attention is appreciated, I love nothing more than attention, but I'm self resolving.

I obviously won't specify more unless in immediate danger of dying to town KP.
I do not want you to claim or self resolve or anything. I just want you to show me that you're trying to read people.
No, you want to know my alignment. Here's my fucking alignment. Acting like there's any greater mission is bs.

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:26 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Like this is simply not true sometimes I high post sometimes I low post and it’s largely NAI

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:27 pm
by Sloonei
c4e5g3d5 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:24 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:22 pm This attention is appreciated, I love nothing more than attention, but I'm self resolving.

I obviously won't specify more unless in immediate danger of dying to town KP.
I do not want you to claim or self resolve or anything. I just want you to show me that you're trying to read people.
No, you want to know my alignment. Here's my fucking alignment. Acting like there's any greater mission is bs.
Oh

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:28 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:09 pm Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, sean, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
Dyslexicon ( 1 ): BoKnows
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha
No flips on NAA, what do you think on that?

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:29 pm
by c4e5g3d5
Isn't 112 like, one of the single players most unaligned from Dizzy? What am I missing?

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:29 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:18 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:13 pm Paopan/Belzy/TonyStarkPrime/DrWilgy

Who is wolf here?

Guillotine/alexa/Phil and Gloria/ilario

What about here?
To choose exactly one from each?

Probably TPS and Mac.

Paopan is back and forth possibly scum possibly Town so it's a coinflip.
Belzy seems to have some information that might point to them being Town, but wont say because of soup.
TSP pretty much drove the EoD.
Wiggly and Dizzy's interactions look pretty bad for Wiggly.
TSP > Wiggly > Paopan
Probs not Belzy unless Belzy lives a long while

Gullio has been off and on, Neeko isn't sure but leaning scum.
Alexa seemed to have a scummy start, but Nutella flip actually looks pretty good for Alexa.
Mac Neeko has been balancing between a Null and Scumlean all game and Mac just feels likely to be picked by a Mafia Captain which Dizzy flip kind of implies happened.
ilario basically confirmed.
Mac > Gullio > Alexa
Probs not ilario unless he never dies in which case might have been a bus shot since both were at high votes when it occured.
current status: being accused of being low impact and also steering chops on town

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:30 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:28 pm
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:09 pm Seanzie ( 7 ): Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
DrWilgy ( 6 ): sabie, dyachei, ender, sean, radishes, c4
NotAnAxehole ( 4 ): Guillotine, alexa, Phil and Gloria, ilario
EnderWiggin ( 3 ): dyslexicon, jpic, falcon
112 ( 1 ): Sloonei
Dyslexicon ( 1 ): BoKnows
falcon45ca ( 1 ): 112
Porscha ( 1 ): linearpoint
sig ( 1 ): hollowkatt
Not Voting ( 3 ): Creature, sig, porscha
No flips on NAA, what do you think on that?
Update you said what you thinkd on that

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:30 pm
by Phil and Gloria
LinearPoint wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:43 pm You know what, if you make a full read on Neeko at least you'll be doing better than Mac who just echo'd Urist's read and left.
get my name out ya mouth kid

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:31 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Adding Mac to town core to replace Nutella

(This is a pocket attempt)

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:31 pm
by Phil and Gloria
Sloonei wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:04 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 pm I don't think I have heard a single reason for c4 scum. why is c4 scum
Then after hearing a reason for c4 to be scum:
Justplayingitcool wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:28 pm lol did you just make a progression case on c4
:suspish:
yeah fuck that lol

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:31 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Creature wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:20 pm What do you all make of Paopan claiming protective role out of the blue?
I don’t think it was out of the blue

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:33 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I should say I think it had happened before

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:33 pm
by c4e5g3d5
My thoughts on your case are [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine lmao

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:33 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Oh I’m doing that thing MR accused me of again where I am not clear about mech stuff

Whoops

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:34 pm
by Phil and Gloria
c4e5g3d5 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:33 pm My thoughts on your case are [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine lmao
:disappoint:

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:34 pm
by Creature
Oh just realized the voting will close 8:00 am to me

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:34 pm
by Phil and Gloria
I'm currently being voted by many many wolves btw

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:35 pm
by c4e5g3d5
Phil and Gloria wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:34 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:33 pm My thoughts on your case are [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine lmao
:disappoint:
Does he have mech going for him or something? Because lol

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:35 pm
by Creature
Phil and Gloria wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:34 pm I'm currently being voted by many many wolves btw
Voters: Belzy, Guillotine, ilario, LinearPoint, falcon45ca, DrWilgy, TonyStarkPrime

Which?

Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 D2

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:36 pm
by Master Radishes
Mac TMIing his team. You love to see it.