The Syndicate

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:45 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:14 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:18 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:03 pm Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:32 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:31 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:18 pm Votecount asofrn

MacDougall (6) - Esooa, Drwilgz , santygrass, riisinq- , Porscha, sabiplz
Santygrass (3) - Jack, Hollowkatt, Macdougall
Neon (2) - Achromatic, Lilypetal
Hollowkatt (1) - Nanook
Riisinq- (1) - Neon

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:18 pm don't flash wagon neon jfc

???

I for one still think we should flash wagon Neon

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:52 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:45 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:14 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:18 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:03 pm Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

You're ignoring the part where I said adjusted for a 4k post game its still low lol

And the part where I linked mafia games you've had similar volume?

Please tho, continue arguing against this straw man

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:52 pm Like you're trying to sound reasonable but you're just completely ignoring what I've said lol

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:46 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:41 pm

Spoiler: show

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:44 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:51 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:27 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:14 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:11 pm

why? I've fucking tried to and I get shit on and told "you can't be town you didn't hyper post" or "you can't be town you got suckered by mac" or "you can't be town your arguments are dumb" and frankly I can't be bothered to care any more.

this thread was ruined days ago, nothing is going to fix it and nobody cares

I care. Ignore Nook for the rest of the day. Let's just talk.

sure, what would you like to talk about?

Let's talk about hypotheticals:

Jack w then who

Jack V then who

Rising w then who

Rising V then who

Nook w then who

Nook V then who

Lily w then who

Lily V then who

Esooa w then who

Esooa V then who

Neon w then who

Neon V then who

Santy w then who

Santy V then who

Me w then who

Me V then who

Wilgz w then who

Wgz V then tho

(I think that's everyone)

I'll answer these to the best of my abilities but frankly I haven't paid nearly enough attention to anything to give you real actionable information.

First the easy ones, these people are always town for me:
sabi
esooa

I don't think anyone approaches this game the way either of you have, have had the conversations you've had, and the pushes that you've both made if either of you are a wolf. Some of it is Mac spew/engagement, some of it is Achro engagement, and some of it is just trying your damnedest to solve the game. If either of you are a wolf then amazingly done and I bow to your greatness. But you're not, you're both town.

Wigly can never be paired with Macdougall, it's just not possible. He was suspicious of Mac early on D1, continued that into D2. There's no reason for WIgly to bus Mac of all team mates that early. Maybe a third mate sure, but you've got to know that Mac is going to draw a lot of attention anyways, so credit is minimal if you are on him when he goes over, and if you are aiding in drawing that attention, as I believe wigly was, you're doing your team a disservice. I know it's misplay mafia but still, that's a really really bad one.
I also find Wiglys consistent tunneling on Neon semi-endearing. Not because it's cute and fluffy but because Wigly returns there in times of stress in the thread, continues to remind us that Wigly wolf reads Neon, and overall seems like if Wigly were wolfing here he'd be doing more than just reminders of the read, he'd be laying out reasoning why the wolf exists.

I also like his engagement with Achro during the Mac push


Next tier of ease:
Santy I think has really turned it around over the last couple of IRL days. I disliked their posting early in the game and middle of D2 but the rest of D2 and into today they're showing the type of solving action that I saw displayed in my qualifier this year. Basically when santy got off the shitpost train and hopped onto the build wall cases train is when it shifted for me. Santy is trying to engage multiple people on multiple fronts, none of which are advancing what I would call a wolf agenda. There's too many irons in the fire for Santy to keep track of if they were trying to wolf the game.

Next tier:
nanook I've said before I think nanook believes in his HK is a wolf push. It's gone on too long for it to be taking seriously by literally anyone who isn't him. He doubled down when I explained to him why it's not a strict sort by postcount to find wolf HK, I also explained how I'm never keeping up with the pace of this game in a way that doesn't trigger a "relative post count tell" regardless of my alignment. He didn't care, doubled down. I can't understand how nanook as a wolf does that because if he catches the car and gets me chopped and I flip town his only response can be "I thought I was right" and after being shown how he's not right and I can't (read also as won't) keep up with 300+ posts from 3 people on D1 his argument falls apart and then he's got to play defense there.
I also don't think he pairs with Mac very well. This is probably the weakest part of the read because nanook is known for doing his own thing regardless of what his team mates have going on but I believe in it.

I know I'm not answering the way you want me to, I can't really think of how to build worlds like that, it's not a way my brain works very well. Instead what I can do is give the reasons why I believe players alignments are the way they are, and then go from there to form a POE.

Which brings me to the POE section.

In very little order:
Lily
Risiinq
Jack
Neon

They're here because I have less reason to town read them than I do the above list. If I have some time later I'll pull reasons why I think they can be a wolf paired with mac but for now I don't have the capacity to do so, sorry.

OK I like this


When you have time can you order the poe from most or least likely scum and the partner analysis.

Thank you for this hk

ordered poe from least to most:
jack
lily
neon
risiinq

I can give you the partner analysis after dinner/bed time

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:46 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:41 pm

Spoiler: show

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:44 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:51 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:27 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:14 pm

I care. Ignore Nook for the rest of the day. Let's just talk.

sure, what would you like to talk about?

Let's talk about hypotheticals:

Jack w then who

Jack V then who

Rising w then who

Rising V then who

Nook w then who

Nook V then who

Lily w then who

Lily V then who

Esooa w then who

Esooa V then who

Neon w then who

Neon V then who

Santy w then who

Santy V then who

Me w then who

Me V then who

Wilgz w then who

Wgz V then tho

(I think that's everyone)

I'll answer these to the best of my abilities but frankly I haven't paid nearly enough attention to anything to give you real actionable information.

First the easy ones, these people are always town for me:
sabi
esooa

I don't think anyone approaches this game the way either of you have, have had the conversations you've had, and the pushes that you've both made if either of you are a wolf. Some of it is Mac spew/engagement, some of it is Achro engagement, and some of it is just trying your damnedest to solve the game. If either of you are a wolf then amazingly done and I bow to your greatness. But you're not, you're both town.

Wigly can never be paired with Macdougall, it's just not possible. He was suspicious of Mac early on D1, continued that into D2. There's no reason for WIgly to bus Mac of all team mates that early. Maybe a third mate sure, but you've got to know that Mac is going to draw a lot of attention anyways, so credit is minimal if you are on him when he goes over, and if you are aiding in drawing that attention, as I believe wigly was, you're doing your team a disservice. I know it's misplay mafia but still, that's a really really bad one.
I also find Wiglys consistent tunneling on Neon semi-endearing. Not because it's cute and fluffy but because Wigly returns there in times of stress in the thread, continues to remind us that Wigly wolf reads Neon, and overall seems like if Wigly were wolfing here he'd be doing more than just reminders of the read, he'd be laying out reasoning why the wolf exists.

I also like his engagement with Achro during the Mac push


Next tier of ease:
Santy I think has really turned it around over the last couple of IRL days. I disliked their posting early in the game and middle of D2 but the rest of D2 and into today they're showing the type of solving action that I saw displayed in my qualifier this year. Basically when santy got off the shitpost train and hopped onto the build wall cases train is when it shifted for me. Santy is trying to engage multiple people on multiple fronts, none of which are advancing what I would call a wolf agenda. There's too many irons in the fire for Santy to keep track of if they were trying to wolf the game.

Next tier:
nanook I've said before I think nanook believes in his HK is a wolf push. It's gone on too long for it to be taking seriously by literally anyone who isn't him. He doubled down when I explained to him why it's not a strict sort by postcount to find wolf HK, I also explained how I'm never keeping up with the pace of this game in a way that doesn't trigger a "relative post count tell" regardless of my alignment. He didn't care, doubled down. I can't understand how nanook as a wolf does that because if he catches the car and gets me chopped and I flip town his only response can be "I thought I was right" and after being shown how he's not right and I can't (read also as won't) keep up with 300+ posts from 3 people on D1 his argument falls apart and then he's got to play defense there.
I also don't think he pairs with Mac very well. This is probably the weakest part of the read because nanook is known for doing his own thing regardless of what his team mates have going on but I believe in it.

I know I'm not answering the way you want me to, I can't really think of how to build worlds like that, it's not a way my brain works very well. Instead what I can do is give the reasons why I believe players alignments are the way they are, and then go from there to form a POE.

Which brings me to the POE section.

In very little order:
Lily
Risiinq
Jack
Neon

They're here because I have less reason to town read them than I do the above list. If I have some time later I'll pull reasons why I think they can be a wolf paired with mac but for now I don't have the capacity to do so, sorry.

OK I like this


When you have time can you order the poe from most or least likely scum and the partner analysis.

Thank you for this hk

ordered poe from least to most:
jack
lily
neon
risiinq

I can give you the partner analysis after dinner/bed time

im MOST likely now??? since when, and why aren't you voting me then???

u townread me for most of this game.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:06 pm Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:46 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:41 pm

Spoiler: show

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:44 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:51 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:27 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:14 pm

I care. Ignore Nook for the rest of the day. Let's just talk.

sure, what would you like to talk about?

Let's talk about hypotheticals:

Jack w then who

Jack V then who

Rising w then who

Rising V then who

Nook w then who

Nook V then who

Lily w then who

Lily V then who

Esooa w then who

Esooa V then who

Neon w then who

Neon V then who

Santy w then who

Santy V then who

Me w then who

Me V then who

Wilgz w then who

Wgz V then tho

(I think that's everyone)

I'll answer these to the best of my abilities but frankly I haven't paid nearly enough attention to anything to give you real actionable information.

First the easy ones, these people are always town for me:
sabi
esooa

I don't think anyone approaches this game the way either of you have, have had the conversations you've had, and the pushes that you've both made if either of you are a wolf. Some of it is Mac spew/engagement, some of it is Achro engagement, and some of it is just trying your damnedest to solve the game. If either of you are a wolf then amazingly done and I bow to your greatness. But you're not, you're both town.

Wigly can never be paired with Macdougall, it's just not possible. He was suspicious of Mac early on D1, continued that into D2. There's no reason for WIgly to bus Mac of all team mates that early. Maybe a third mate sure, but you've got to know that Mac is going to draw a lot of attention anyways, so credit is minimal if you are on him when he goes over, and if you are aiding in drawing that attention, as I believe wigly was, you're doing your team a disservice. I know it's misplay mafia but still, that's a really really bad one.
I also find Wiglys consistent tunneling on Neon semi-endearing. Not because it's cute and fluffy but because Wigly returns there in times of stress in the thread, continues to remind us that Wigly wolf reads Neon, and overall seems like if Wigly were wolfing here he'd be doing more than just reminders of the read, he'd be laying out reasoning why the wolf exists.

I also like his engagement with Achro during the Mac push


Next tier of ease:
Santy I think has really turned it around over the last couple of IRL days. I disliked their posting early in the game and middle of D2 but the rest of D2 and into today they're showing the type of solving action that I saw displayed in my qualifier this year. Basically when santy got off the shitpost train and hopped onto the build wall cases train is when it shifted for me. Santy is trying to engage multiple people on multiple fronts, none of which are advancing what I would call a wolf agenda. There's too many irons in the fire for Santy to keep track of if they were trying to wolf the game.

Next tier:
nanook I've said before I think nanook believes in his HK is a wolf push. It's gone on too long for it to be taking seriously by literally anyone who isn't him. He doubled down when I explained to him why it's not a strict sort by postcount to find wolf HK, I also explained how I'm never keeping up with the pace of this game in a way that doesn't trigger a "relative post count tell" regardless of my alignment. He didn't care, doubled down. I can't understand how nanook as a wolf does that because if he catches the car and gets me chopped and I flip town his only response can be "I thought I was right" and after being shown how he's not right and I can't (read also as won't) keep up with 300+ posts from 3 people on D1 his argument falls apart and then he's got to play defense there.
I also don't think he pairs with Mac very well. This is probably the weakest part of the read because nanook is known for doing his own thing regardless of what his team mates have going on but I believe in it.

I know I'm not answering the way you want me to, I can't really think of how to build worlds like that, it's not a way my brain works very well. Instead what I can do is give the reasons why I believe players alignments are the way they are, and then go from there to form a POE.

Which brings me to the POE section.

In very little order:
Lily
Risiinq
Jack
Neon

They're here because I have less reason to town read them than I do the above list. If I have some time later I'll pull reasons why I think they can be a wolf paired with mac but for now I don't have the capacity to do so, sorry.

OK I like this


When you have time can you order the poe from most or least likely scum and the partner analysis.

Thank you for this hk

ordered poe from least to most:
jack
lily
neon
risiinq

I can give you the partner analysis after dinner/bed time

im MOST likely now??? since when, and why aren't you voting me then???

u townread me for most of this game.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:10 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:46 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:41 pm

Spoiler: show

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:44 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:51 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:27 pm

sure, what would you like to talk about?

Let's talk about hypotheticals:

Jack w then who

Jack V then who

Rising w then who

Rising V then who

Nook w then who

Nook V then who

Lily w then who

Lily V then who

Esooa w then who

Esooa V then who

Neon w then who

Neon V then who

Santy w then who

Santy V then who

Me w then who

Me V then who

Wilgz w then who

Wgz V then tho

(I think that's everyone)

I'll answer these to the best of my abilities but frankly I haven't paid nearly enough attention to anything to give you real actionable information.

First the easy ones, these people are always town for me:
sabi
esooa

I don't think anyone approaches this game the way either of you have, have had the conversations you've had, and the pushes that you've both made if either of you are a wolf. Some of it is Mac spew/engagement, some of it is Achro engagement, and some of it is just trying your damnedest to solve the game. If either of you are a wolf then amazingly done and I bow to your greatness. But you're not, you're both town.

Wigly can never be paired with Macdougall, it's just not possible. He was suspicious of Mac early on D1, continued that into D2. There's no reason for WIgly to bus Mac of all team mates that early. Maybe a third mate sure, but you've got to know that Mac is going to draw a lot of attention anyways, so credit is minimal if you are on him when he goes over, and if you are aiding in drawing that attention, as I believe wigly was, you're doing your team a disservice. I know it's misplay mafia but still, that's a really really bad one.
I also find Wiglys consistent tunneling on Neon semi-endearing. Not because it's cute and fluffy but because Wigly returns there in times of stress in the thread, continues to remind us that Wigly wolf reads Neon, and overall seems like if Wigly were wolfing here he'd be doing more than just reminders of the read, he'd be laying out reasoning why the wolf exists.

I also like his engagement with Achro during the Mac push


Next tier of ease:
Santy I think has really turned it around over the last couple of IRL days. I disliked their posting early in the game and middle of D2 but the rest of D2 and into today they're showing the type of solving action that I saw displayed in my qualifier this year. Basically when santy got off the shitpost train and hopped onto the build wall cases train is when it shifted for me. Santy is trying to engage multiple people on multiple fronts, none of which are advancing what I would call a wolf agenda. There's too many irons in the fire for Santy to keep track of if they were trying to wolf the game.

Next tier:
nanook I've said before I think nanook believes in his HK is a wolf push. It's gone on too long for it to be taking seriously by literally anyone who isn't him. He doubled down when I explained to him why it's not a strict sort by postcount to find wolf HK, I also explained how I'm never keeping up with the pace of this game in a way that doesn't trigger a "relative post count tell" regardless of my alignment. He didn't care, doubled down. I can't understand how nanook as a wolf does that because if he catches the car and gets me chopped and I flip town his only response can be "I thought I was right" and after being shown how he's not right and I can't (read also as won't) keep up with 300+ posts from 3 people on D1 his argument falls apart and then he's got to play defense there.
I also don't think he pairs with Mac very well. This is probably the weakest part of the read because nanook is known for doing his own thing regardless of what his team mates have going on but I believe in it.

I know I'm not answering the way you want me to, I can't really think of how to build worlds like that, it's not a way my brain works very well. Instead what I can do is give the reasons why I believe players alignments are the way they are, and then go from there to form a POE.

Which brings me to the POE section.

In very little order:
Lily
Risiinq
Jack
Neon

They're here because I have less reason to town read them than I do the above list. If I have some time later I'll pull reasons why I think they can be a wolf paired with mac but for now I don't have the capacity to do so, sorry.

OK I like this


When you have time can you order the poe from most or least likely scum and the partner analysis.

Thank you for this hk

ordered poe from least to most:
jack
lily
neon
risiinq

I can give you the partner analysis after dinner/bed time

im MOST likely now??? since when, and why aren't you voting me then???

u townread me for most of this game.

Yeah, till today, when I pressed you on the nanook/hk dichotomy and your answer was far from satisfactory.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:09 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:06 pm Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

I'm all out of rage, just bored with the push you can't seem to articulate better than volume tell.
Funny how you didn't bring up "my posts are bad" until I told you you haven't done so yet.

Anyways: counter to volume tell: GOC 2020. I subbed in late D2 for Thunal and lived to N8 when I was the NK. In that time (6 days) I had just over 600 posts. 100ish per day.
Which is exactly what I'm at here.
I was town.

If your bigger reason was my posts lowkey suck why is this the first time you've said anything? Like I can work with "lowkey suck", I can dialog about that, we can look at my posts and you can ask questions, but you haven't nanook. your whole case is predicated on volume tell which I've already discussed.

If you want to talk about sucky posts lets do that. Find some, ask me about them, dialog. I can't, and won't, dialog about volume tell any further, it's pointless.

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:23 pm Getting fancy sabi

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:24 pm My class ended up too late so I lost my train. And cuz of a football game bus takes a detour and I cant take it either.

So I am walking back home in middle of the night. If I dont post anymore, assume I'm dead

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:27 pm Who would be your PoE and Locktowns Sabi? Need a reminder while I munch on some toughts

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:10 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:06 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:46 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:41 pm

Spoiler: show

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:44 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:51 pm

Let's talk about hypotheticals:

Jack w then who

Jack V then who

Rising w then who

Rising V then who

Nook w then who

Nook V then who

Lily w then who

Lily V then who

Esooa w then who

Esooa V then who

Neon w then who

Neon V then who

Santy w then who

Santy V then who

Me w then who

Me V then who

Wilgz w then who

Wgz V then tho

(I think that's everyone)

I'll answer these to the best of my abilities but frankly I haven't paid nearly enough attention to anything to give you real actionable information.

First the easy ones, these people are always town for me:
sabi
esooa

I don't think anyone approaches this game the way either of you have, have had the conversations you've had, and the pushes that you've both made if either of you are a wolf. Some of it is Mac spew/engagement, some of it is Achro engagement, and some of it is just trying your damnedest to solve the game. If either of you are a wolf then amazingly done and I bow to your greatness. But you're not, you're both town.

Wigly can never be paired with Macdougall, it's just not possible. He was suspicious of Mac early on D1, continued that into D2. There's no reason for WIgly to bus Mac of all team mates that early. Maybe a third mate sure, but you've got to know that Mac is going to draw a lot of attention anyways, so credit is minimal if you are on him when he goes over, and if you are aiding in drawing that attention, as I believe wigly was, you're doing your team a disservice. I know it's misplay mafia but still, that's a really really bad one.
I also find Wiglys consistent tunneling on Neon semi-endearing. Not because it's cute and fluffy but because Wigly returns there in times of stress in the thread, continues to remind us that Wigly wolf reads Neon, and overall seems like if Wigly were wolfing here he'd be doing more than just reminders of the read, he'd be laying out reasoning why the wolf exists.

I also like his engagement with Achro during the Mac push


Next tier of ease:
Santy I think has really turned it around over the last couple of IRL days. I disliked their posting early in the game and middle of D2 but the rest of D2 and into today they're showing the type of solving action that I saw displayed in my qualifier this year. Basically when santy got off the shitpost train and hopped onto the build wall cases train is when it shifted for me. Santy is trying to engage multiple people on multiple fronts, none of which are advancing what I would call a wolf agenda. There's too many irons in the fire for Santy to keep track of if they were trying to wolf the game.

Next tier:
nanook I've said before I think nanook believes in his HK is a wolf push. It's gone on too long for it to be taking seriously by literally anyone who isn't him. He doubled down when I explained to him why it's not a strict sort by postcount to find wolf HK, I also explained how I'm never keeping up with the pace of this game in a way that doesn't trigger a "relative post count tell" regardless of my alignment. He didn't care, doubled down. I can't understand how nanook as a wolf does that because if he catches the car and gets me chopped and I flip town his only response can be "I thought I was right" and after being shown how he's not right and I can't (read also as won't) keep up with 300+ posts from 3 people on D1 his argument falls apart and then he's got to play defense there.
I also don't think he pairs with Mac very well. This is probably the weakest part of the read because nanook is known for doing his own thing regardless of what his team mates have going on but I believe in it.

I know I'm not answering the way you want me to, I can't really think of how to build worlds like that, it's not a way my brain works very well. Instead what I can do is give the reasons why I believe players alignments are the way they are, and then go from there to form a POE.

Which brings me to the POE section.

In very little order:
Lily
Risiinq
Jack
Neon

They're here because I have less reason to town read them than I do the above list. If I have some time later I'll pull reasons why I think they can be a wolf paired with mac but for now I don't have the capacity to do so, sorry.

OK I like this


When you have time can you order the poe from most or least likely scum and the partner analysis.

Thank you for this hk

ordered poe from least to most:
jack
lily
neon
risiinq

I can give you the partner analysis after dinner/bed time

im MOST likely now??? since when, and why aren't you voting me then???

u townread me for most of this game.

Yeah, till today, when I pressed you on the nanook/hk dichotomy and your answer was far from satisfactory.

there is NO way that makes me top wolf suddenly

i wasn't even top wolf like 5 hours ago when someone else asked

bruhhh

and why arent you voting me then

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:32 pm Also I'll delegate the handling of hk to you Sabi since you got like their readlist/worldview really easily which was something that I asked and got kinda ignored on tha. And prob you know him better than me ig /? .
Cuz rn I thought that I have is that maybe lynching them is better for thread health and I would really hate to lynch someone because of that. Specially if I think Jack is scummier

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:35 pm K Sabi, if I get nightkilled will you please sheep my reads? I will prob make a list with explanations and stuff.
I am a little worried that from D1 you dont seem to change your view much tbh

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:42 pm Prob discussion for postgame cuz rn is kinda pointless .
Anyways I'll leave hk to you, Im going to focus on Jack probs and try to not confbias. Also a ris case for y'all

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:46 pm Like how do you read my slot santy?

You haven't really tried to solve me. You just sponged others reads of me.

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:52 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:46 pm Like how do you read my slot santy?

You haven't really tried to solve me. You just sponged others reads of me.

That's what I said early D1. I wouldnt maintain a sponged read that long LMAO.
And like, I would have ti getbin really good drugs to think that you/Mac are paired wowee

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:57 pm I'm lonely and bored.

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:57 pm @Porscha did you read my case on Mac/Jack D2? I quoted it at SoD today. I am asking cuz you asked opinions on your Jack Iso or smth. And that have most of my thoughts regarding Jack tbh

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:58 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:57 pm I'm lonely and bored.

HI lonely and bored, I'm mom

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:00 pm Neon you answered me what you thought it was Messy from ris worldview?
I know you said reactions and stuff but that isnt an answer to that question to me

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:29 pm sabi, what do u think of solve hk/jack?

risiinq- wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:30 pm do u think me/santy can ever be paired?

and if jack is the other person in ur poe, do you think santy/jack can be paired? santy/me?

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:50 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:58 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:57 pm I'm lonely and bored.

HI lonely and bored, I'm mom

The amount of things that flashed through my head to answer this.

I probably shouldn't say any of them lol