The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:52 pm @Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:59 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:58 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:56 pm

Many

Ok so you townread Mac right?

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

SVS, 112 and Marmot have all been cased in the last few pages. Marmot is the best case, SVS and 112 have the most votes.

I just played a game where Marmot was scum and he fooled me (and others) D1, but dropped off completely D2. I thought he was town last day, but I will look over him again. If he has dropped off in involvement this day, that's a bad sign. Haven't seen him post yet from where I'm at in catching up.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:44 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:24 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:48 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:44 am There's a certain calmness to his presence in this thread in the few moments we've crossed paths. Like there is nothing premeditated about any of the things he says or does, and he is just existing naturally in the game. I don't actually recall many reads he has given, but his posture feels authentic.

This is a tone read then basically?

My take on Scotty is that he has done fuck all this game and IAWY scumread him. I don't hold the IAWY shot against him, I would have done it too if I had a dayvig, but I do think that IAWY has decent reads in general and is particularly likely to have good reads because he is a member of the POE (POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread). I am not to-the-death convinced that Scotty is scum, but I don't see what you do in his tone and his actual solving has been kinda nonexistent. This is enough to put him in the POE - coupled with IAWY's conviction that he's mafia, I'm happy to vote him out.

“Iawy was in the POE”
“People in the POE tend to have better reads”
“Scotty is in the POE”
“I’m happy to vote him out”

Ehh... I don't like this.

Sounds like we’re in agreement that we both don’t like this

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:30 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm @Scotty

Did you notice anything happen last night at all?

I was gifted that shot from someone. Did you give that to me?

Otherwise I forgot to use my ability, however unbelievable and stupid that sounds. I misread my role.

Has anyone claimed giving Scotty a shot?

It's a choice.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:32 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:31 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:48 pm I shot Sabi. No regrets.

okay fuck u but also thank u

I mean worth it

ya my role was ass and it's definitely better that theyre dead now

i just hate town losing kp cuz im dumb and double stacked with u when it should've been obvious

Wait. Are you claiming you also shot Sabi?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 pm Guillo why so bothered that I DON'T sus you?

I didnt say i was bothered

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:13 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:31 pm Alison is growing on me a little bit

Note this from day one Guillo. I had an early wolf read on Alison. It changed as I watched her play. She wanted to vig me but she always came back to knowing she needed to use it in a town-leaning way and shooting me wasn't it.

Yah but give me specifics please.

Becase i can say like hmmm someone random, say lily because i like her posting.

This is very easy to say.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:38 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:36 pm I thought Sabi was in their wolf meta idk about now

and you killed him for it, you're literally the Jews and Cape was Jesus

I think there was quite a few people who said Sabi was wolfy or in wolf meta last day, but there was few votes. I don't remember who said it though, I think Nut and Alison did, but I don't particularly suspect either.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:40 pm This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

Sounds like NAI behaviour :wowee:

Golden where did you go? We finally get to talk and ghost me when i question you on your logic?

How rude

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:27 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:24 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:48 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:44 am There's a certain calmness to his presence in this thread in the few moments we've crossed paths. Like there is nothing premeditated about any of the things he says or does, and he is just existing naturally in the game. I don't actually recall many reads he has given, but his posture feels authentic.

This is a tone read then basically?

My take on Scotty is that he has done fuck all this game and IAWY scumread him. I don't hold the IAWY shot against him, I would have done it too if I had a dayvig, but I do think that IAWY has decent reads in general and is particularly likely to have good reads because he is a member of the POE (POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread). I am not to-the-death convinced that Scotty is scum, but I don't see what you do in his tone and his actual solving has been kinda nonexistent. This is enough to put him in the POE - coupled with IAWY's conviction that he's mafia, I'm happy to vote him out.

“Iawy was in the POE”
“People in the POE tend to have better reads”
“Scotty is in the POE”
“I’m happy to vote him out”

Town in the POE tend to have better reads. If I vote you obviously I don't think you're town. This is a disingenuous gotcha.

Huh.

This isn’t so much a gotcha as it is a logical fallacy from my POV.
>“Iawy has decent reads in general” is pretty subjective. Who’s to say mine aren’t decent?
> “POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread”
Ok, so. I have a green check on myself.
>”This is enough to put him in the POE”


To put it another way: ‘I like the taste of beef burgers’
‘If someone makes a beef burger, odds are it’ll be good’
‘Someone made a fake beef burger’
‘I’m not even going to bother trying that garbage’

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:50 pm [VOTE: Urist] aubergine

Someone tell me why I'm wrong on this

Because I'm vibing.

Is this omgus?

I am pessimistic about this game. There are way too many wolfy players and too few KP to off all of them.

People are wrongly presumptive that I have read more than 5 or 10 pages of the game. I find these people wolfiest.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:52 pm @Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:59 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:58 pm

Ok so you townread Mac right?

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

SVS, 112 and Marmot have all been cased in the last few pages. Marmot is the best case, SVS and 112 have the most votes.

I just played a game where Marmot was scum and he fooled me (and others) D1, but dropped off completely D2. I thought he was town last day, but I will look over him again. If he has dropped off in involvement this day, that's a bad sign. Haven't seen him post yet from where I'm at in catching up.

Indeed they have (so far)

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:32 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:13 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:31 pm Alison is growing on me a little bit

Note this from day one Guillo. I had an early wolf read on Alison. It changed as I watched her play. She wanted to vig me but she always came back to knowing she needed to use it in a town-leaning way and shooting me wasn't it.

Yah but give me specifics please.

Becase i can say like hmmm someone random, say lily because i like her posting.

This is very easy to say.

Eh I'll pass. You can just read the thread. I even pointed you to three good pages.

Oh look I have my own wagon! Hi friends.

Chopping slanky radishes always works out.

I've heard enough.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Nvn MR is actually too wolfy

No come back I miss u

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 pm Chopping slanky radishes always works out.

You're not even slanky.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:54 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 pm Chopping slanky radishes always works out.

You're not even slanky.

I don't remember reading a single post of mine.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:52 pm @Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:59 pm

At the moment

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

Votes for people in Mac's PoE currently:

MR 4 - Falcon, Creature, 112, Urist
112 3 - Mac, nutella, Michelle
SVS 3 - sig, alison, neon
Marmot 2 - golden, Party Crasher

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:51 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:32 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:13 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:31 pm Alison is growing on me a little bit

Note this from day one Guillo. I had an early wolf read on Alison. It changed as I watched her play. She wanted to vig me but she always came back to knowing she needed to use it in a town-leaning way and shooting me wasn't it.

Yah but give me specifics please.

Becase i can say like hmmm someone random, say lily because i like her posting.

This is very easy to say.

Eh I'll pass. You can just read the thread. I even pointed you to three good pages.

So you cant give teasons for townreading Alison and yet you ate trusting Alison's PoE and her read on me?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:02 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:10 am How in the world is Wilgz towncored

Also this is salty posting that me and whoever else it was found Wilgy town.

I can buy that. Was looking for a reason to town read Wilgy

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:55 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:52 pm @Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 pm

Why at the moment? because this implies not certainty.

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:56 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:51 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:32 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:13 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:31 pm Alison is growing on me a little bit

Note this from day one Guillo. I had an early wolf read on Alison. It changed as I watched her play. She wanted to vig me but she always came back to knowing she needed to use it in a town-leaning way and shooting me wasn't it.

Yah but give me specifics please.

Becase i can say like hmmm someone random, say lily because i like her posting.

This is very easy to say.

Eh I'll pass. You can just read the thread. I even pointed you to three good pages.

So you cant give teasons for townreading Alison and yet you ate trusting Alison's PoE and her read on me?

This is the thing I hate most about a mafia game:

"Can you, golden, please specifically explain to me dynamics that are already very clearly laid out in the thread."
"Go read it yourself"
"Oh, you can't"

I just don't have time for this bullshit.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:49 pm

112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:48 pm when i'm dead, you're all going to feel slightly bad about thinking it was me all along and turning out wrong af but you're also going to be pretty okay with it because it's a lhf lynch and we really can't blame anyone if they think i'm mafia. meanwhile, however, i am going to make glib posts for the rest of the phase and repeatedly announce my innocence in ways that are highly aggravating. you're welcome.

Scummy post bro.

Personally I thought it was very relatable

Guillo, apologies for being over-salty... but really, like... I think Alison is town because she is putting in masses of effort to solve the game. It's that simple.

Thread state yesterday, bad.

Thread state today, good.

We have Mac and Alison to thank for that.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:30 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:23 pm also why does me having multiple shots change you wanting to elim me today?

If you think I’m bad, get rid of me

Like what?

Multiple shots = you can prove your shot is silent = you can prove you shooting IAWY was in good faith (since as mafia with a silent shot you can just kill Mac or something and not say anything)

Ah gotcha.

Well the shot had nothing to do with my role. So unless someone wants to gift me another shot.

I’m usually better with my shots as the game goes on. (I swear)

@Kate I encourage you to engage with that same range of pages (around the 110-112 mark) and develop your thoughts around that stuff too.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:57 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:55 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:52 pm @Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 pm

I was wolf-reading him day 1

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:57 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:55 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:52 pm @Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:03 pm

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Dude

Just go read the thread

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:00 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:49 pm

112 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:48 pm when i'm dead, you're all going to feel slightly bad about thinking it was me all along and turning out wrong af but you're also going to be pretty okay with it because it's a lhf lynch and we really can't blame anyone if they think i'm mafia. meanwhile, however, i am going to make glib posts for the rest of the phase and repeatedly announce my innocence in ways that are highly aggravating. you're welcome.

Scummy post bro.

Personally I thought it was very relatable

It was meant to be a joke but neither you nor Alison apparently go that so I guess my sense of humour is just poor.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:04 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:57 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:55 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:08 pm

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Dude

Just go read the thread

No, i want you to show me, the thread is 200 pages long.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:43 amSabi's list:
Scummy:
Sig
Wilgz
Porscha
Dennis
hk
Guillo

Nutellas:
could vote d1
112 (just 0post null)
dennis (actually do not want to wagon here but fits more on this side of the divide)
ender
hk
iawy
lily (also prob not)
porscha
pyxxy (fence)
svs
sabi
scotty (fence)

Sabi is bold enough to put all town in her list? Yes, HK being the only overlap rule of 3? Possibly just a wolf

Sabi being mad that Nutella has more than 2 wolves in her POE? Likely.

Sabi trying to distance from another wolf? Probable as well.

Why is Porscha green here?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:01 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:57 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:56 pm The POE turning on each other immediately (SVS scumreading Marmot, 112 and MR getting into a fight) is extremely funny

The fact you think this is a fight is extremely funny mildly amusing.

112 called you mafia and then you caleld their post scummy and started interrogating them about their D1 votes

What I mean is that the members of the POE seem more concerned with getting another member of the POE killed over them rather than complaining about how the POE itself sucks, which suggests it isn't entirely off the mark.

I dont think it necessarily suggests that

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:25 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:30 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:28 pm @Scotty

Did you notice anything happen last night at all?

I was gifted that shot from someone. Did you give that to me?

Otherwise I forgot to use my ability, however unbelievable and stupid that sounds. I misread my role.

Has anyone claimed giving Scotty a shot?

It's a choice.

I promise if someone gives me another shot I won’t announce it in thread next time!

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:07 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:43 amSabi's list:
Scummy:
Sig
Wilgz
Porscha
Dennis
hk
Guillo

Nutellas:
could vote d1
112 (just 0post null)
dennis (actually do not want to wagon here but fits more on this side of the divide)
ender
hk
iawy
lily (also prob not)
porscha
pyxxy (fence)
svs
sabi
scotty (fence)

Sabi is bold enough to put all town in her list? Yes, HK being the only overlap rule of 3? Possibly just a wolf

Sabi being mad that Nutella has more than 2 wolves in her POE? Likely.

Sabi trying to distance from another wolf? Probable as well.

Why is Porscha green here?

Rondo is outting himself by forgetting he is supposed to be fake scum reading me :^)

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:10 pmI promise if someone gives me another shot I won’t announce it in thread next time!

Did you have a choice?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:57 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:55 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:21 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:52 pm @Golden why did you unvote me? I was so happy with it on

I'm hunting in Mac's PoE, which Alison got you out of.

And for now, I trust Alison enough to go with the vouch.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:03 pm

So if you wolf read him day 1. What made you townread him to the extend of completely trust him on his read on Alison?

When i wolf read someone and I switch my read, something inside me tells me to leave (the suspicion) in the back of my mind, where did that paranoia go. On what did you build that kind of trust?

I trust Alison because she's townsiding, not because wolf tells me too.

I'm trusting Alison removing you from the PoE the same way Alison is trusting me removing Kate from the PoE. When you find a towncore you need to listen to each other.

Someone (Scotty?) mentioned page 111 being good content. It really is - that whole zone of 110-112ish (ha, ironic) is the most I've felt the gamestate shift in the towns favour. After 100 pages of flying around on tropey reads, Mac pulled together a very solid PoE and whittled people out of it. The result is, I think, a group of four that elimming and vigging within is likely to be fruitful (and a broader group of at least another four that probably also contains at least one wolf).

For me, Mac, Alison and Neon are all towncore out of that convo. There was a lot of proper townie shit going on there.

You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Let me just completely disintegrate this for a second.

I did not say I 'trust' Mac's PoE. I said I'm hunting in it. You're not in Mac's PoE, therefore I'm not voting you.
You did not ask me based on what did I build trust in Mac's PoE. I built trust in Mac's PoE because I built trust in Mac, and because his development of the PoE is fucking stellar. Which - go read the thread. If you're townsiding and actually read that whole process, you'll agree.
You've invented a world in which I change from trusting Mac to trusting Alison because you cannot understand this basic fact - "Alison got you out of Mac's PoE" - which would be very basic to udnerstand if you just... read the thread.
I am going with Alison's vouch on you because I townread Alison, not because I trust you. I still think you're a good vig shot, but I believe in towncore consensus building for choosing the elim target.

If you literally just read the thread, you will quickly see it ain't me pocketing Mac. If anyone has pocketed anyone it's the other way around.
And my 'push' on Alison ended, like, half way through the day one phase. I haven't been pushing Alison for a looooong time.

What all of this tells me is that you aren't paying attention to thread state at all, which I'm inherently suspicious of. But Michelle keeps telling me to give you time.

I feel like voting for [VOTE: marmot] aubergine. This is not an informed vote.

Democracy is a beautiful thing.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:07 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:04 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:57 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:55 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:21 pm



You said you where sheeping Mac's PoE, which Alison got out of, meaning Mac declared her not sus, so you are sheeping that.

Now you say it's because Alison is townsiding, so you were not sheeping Mac's read on Alison now did you? You are telling me now that Alison is townsiding.

How do you determine that?

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Dude

Just go read the thread

No, i want you to show me, the thread is 200 pages long.

I GAVE YOU THREE FUCKING PAGES

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:12 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:07 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:04 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:03 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:57 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:55 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Alison took YOU out of it, not herself

But you said Mac's PoE not Alison's PoE, was that a mistake?

No, it's not a mistake, you just need to fucking read the thread so you know what happened.

Mac made a PoE, and asked for people to make good cases to get people out of it.

Alison goty you out of it. Now you're not in the PoE

This really isn't hard if you just go back and read a few pages instead of asking me all about it.

Why are you getting hostile?

So you said that the reason you are no longet voting me is because you trust Mac's POE.
I asked if you townread Mac enough to trust him on things, you said at the moment, meaning not certainty on Mac to begin with.
I asked you based on what did you build that trust on Mac's PoE.
You couldnt explain and you changed it to Alison is townsiding not because Mac's PoE.
I asked how she is townsiding
You can't tell me either and now you use foul language and get all hostile on me.

I believe that you were trying to pocket Mac using him as a reason to back out of your push on Alison.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Dude

Just go read the thread

No, i want you to show me, the thread is 200 pages long.

I GAVE YOU THREE FUCKING PAGES

It is not my job to do your thread reading for you, three year old.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:34 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:40 pm This entire game to date has been people pushing trope ‘this is wolfy’ angles that are objectively describing NAI behaviour.

Sounds like NAI behaviour :wowee:

This is wolfy.