Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Go Sharks!G-Man wrote:A lot of intriguing conversation going on today. If Golden the Cowardwasn't so secretive we'd know more about factions and failed NK attempts. I blame him.
I'm working on updated technicolors. I'll post them during tonight's hockey game.
Again, I want to take issue with this point of view. As I've said on numerous occasions, I do not subscribe to the theory that all of our Cylon friends are anti-Town, in fact I hold the opposite view. I don't fully understand the 'Final 5' scenario but from what I've read, I'm thinking that they become Mafia at some point? You talk about likely Mafia numbers and as I understand from what I've read, we've got about 8 unidentied Cylons? If they are all Mafia and the final 5 are also Mafia, that leaves a Mafia team of approximately 13? In my view that is unbalanced and defies logic. If the Final 5 are Mafia and they've not yet been 'activated' it would seem more logical that the Mafia team is currently consists of two or three members and on that basis, very few of our remaining Cylon friends are Mafia. I'd be very happy for anyone to challenge or correct my assumptions on this matter.Dex wrote:Still playing the same card you did with LoRab. There's only one possible civ-friendly role left, what are the odds that it's Wilgy, best to just kill him.Ricochet wrote:I'd interject that the concept of Wilgy claim Caprica Six would arise "for no reason" or "all of a sudden", because there are not many original Cylon numbers we could infer to be non-baddie aligned. Maybe Leoben for being linked with Starbuck after a while? That's about it, though. So, with LoRab flipping Anna, who else to take into consideration but a Cylon such as Caprica Six?
I'll take your word for it kRicochet wrote:It's ok, I spoke on your behalf enough times.
No. Vompatti is not a baddie. I will bet all of my winnings from being right about LC on ita2thezebra wrote:You would be mistaken. I'm positive that you've been lurking deliberately to avoid suspicious spotlight.
This isn't a standard mafia setup, so why did you assume it?Dex wrote:Not outside of standard mafia game setup, I guess not.Epignosis wrote:Is there grounds for assuming Cavil has BTSC?
Not really since he wasn't civ.a2thezebra wrote:I was right about LC being confirmed though.
Was he not? Has this been a confirmed truth, or is it an assumption drawn by people who are pursuing different agendas to the ones LC seemed interested in?sig wrote:Not really since he wasn't civ.a2thezebra wrote:I was right about LC being confirmed though.
I saw what you did there, Epi...Epignosis wrote:I voted for you, Glorfiendel.
Why didn't you bring me to a pointy yet polite reckoning?
I'll admit, the thought had crossed my mind but in the end, far be it from my to attempt to comprehend the convoluted machinations of your mind... If you wish to volunteer them however, knock yourself out!If we say we don't need all cylons dead to win and our win cons change to need them all dead, I'm assuming he wasn't 100% a civ. I'd say LC was an independent. However, whether if he was or not zebra using LCs flip to try and make herself seem good is pingy to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Was he not? Has this been a confirmed truth, or is it an assumption drawn by people who are pursuing different agendas to the ones LC seemed interested in?sig wrote:Not really since he wasn't civ.a2thezebra wrote:I was right about LC being confirmed though.
Who are your suspects?sig wrote:If we say we don't need all cylons dead to win and our win cons change to need them all dead, I'm assuming he wasn't 100% a civ. I'd say LC was an independent. However, whether if he was or not zebra using LCs flip to try and make herself seem good is pingy to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Was he not? Has this been a confirmed truth, or is it an assumption drawn by people who are pursuing different agendas to the ones LC seemed interested in?sig wrote:Not really since he wasn't civ.a2thezebra wrote:I was right about LC being confirmed though.
Blame Daisy for my absences I was watching Firefly :PJaggedJimmyJay wrote:Who are your suspects?sig wrote:If we say we don't need all cylons dead to win and our win cons change to need them all dead, I'm assuming he wasn't 100% a civ. I'd say LC was an independent. However, whether if he was or not zebra using LCs flip to try and make herself seem good is pingy to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Was he not? Has this been a confirmed truth, or is it an assumption drawn by people who are pursuing different agendas to the ones LC seemed interested in?sig wrote:Not really since he wasn't civ.a2thezebra wrote:I was right about LC being confirmed though.
You have three minutes.
How about no.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Let's please stop talking about lynching sig and actually lynch sig.
I agree with most of this post. Mathematically speaking, it is doubtful that Wigly is a protown cylon. We likely only have one more, if even that, so how many people are instantly assuming he is that one is frightening. The difference between this and the Epig lynch, is Epig was confirmed to be a protown cylon afterwards, Wigly was not. Wigly could be Six, or even Cavil. We don't know, but we know there is a mathematic likelihood of Wigly flipping scum.ObscureAllure wrote:Or he could be a bad cylon lying? Let's do the math. How many bad cylons (not Capricia Six) are left compared to the one Capricia Six? The odds are much higher that he's not Six. And that's even if we assume Six isn't bad. We don't know that. Literally every cylon who gets caught being a cylon is going to claim being six. They can't all be six. It's impossible. He's NOT six.Ricochet wrote:I'd interject that the concept of Wilgy claim Caprica Six would arise "for no reason" or "all of a sudden", because there are not many original Cylon numbers we could infer to be non-baddie aligned. Maybe Leoben for being linked with Starbuck after a while? That's about it, though. So, with LoRab flipping Anna, who else to take into consideration but a Cylon such as Caprica Six?
Alignment isn't revealed, but character is. If Six is the assumed protown cylon, the mafia cylons would know that you were not one of them if that is you. Then they could get "townie cred" by defending the good cylon, because they are certain that is what you are. Should Wilgy flip Six, I highly suspect all of his defenders.DrWilgy wrote: So assuming that I am civillian, but a cylon, what would mafia gain from defending me since alignment isn't revealed? I honestly can only see 1 or 2 players having reaction to my death other than mafia kinda saying "woohoo" there goes another one.
Hey Zeebs, can I get a cheatsheet on your opinions currently?
It's nighttime tho.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Let's please stop talking about lynching sig and actually lynch sig.
I was joking, since his flip makes him confirmed now. Get it?sig wrote:If we say we don't need all cylons dead to win and our win cons change to need them all dead, I'm assuming he wasn't 100% a civ. I'd say LC was an independent. However, whether if he was or not zebra using LCs flip to try and make herself seem good is pingy to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Was he not? Has this been a confirmed truth, or is it an assumption drawn by people who are pursuing different agendas to the ones LC seemed interested in?sig wrote:Not really since he wasn't civ.a2thezebra wrote:I was right about LC being confirmed though.
I've been saying this for days.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Let's please stop talking about lynching sig and actually lynch sig.
Silverwolf wrote:I agree sig's reaction to your claim was bad. I'd be wiling to pressure sig. I'm not civ reading him by any means. Don't assume mafia wouldn't defend you right now. And don't assume civs that were going hard after you before wouldn't be doing so now as well.DrWilgy wrote:Aggression? I don't mean to be aggro (sorry if it seemed that way).S~V~S wrote:I think it is a valid reasoning, even if you do not. Even in games where you are using alternative playstyles, you still show up and tend to be somewhat of a thread leader rather than otherwise. It seems to me that you were wallflowering to meMy reasoning is my reasoning, and I am sorry it displeases you, but it works for me.
And even having read every post you made up until you started taking votes just this weekend, I don't recall a single opinion you have held.
I have also said that I am going to take Dex' word for whatever he saw, but I am also not going to apologize for or backpedal from how I felt before the lynch. So can you please dial back the aggression a tad?
A Wilgy cheatsheet:
Strongest opinions, Sig, BR, and Sokoth placed a vote on me after I stated that I was a toaster. This makes little to no civ sense considering their vote would be negated. Why use your strongest power as a civ, your vote, in a position where it wouldn't count.
Strong opinion, Sig's reaction to me taking his side against Epi vs me voting for him on behalf of Scotty was not what I expect out of a civillian Sig.
Medium opinion, OA and Silver are not on the same team. I believe they have been working together now for 3 cycles rather strongly. I don't think Mafia would allow for both of them to still be alive if they were on the same team.
Weak opinion, those defending me are likely civilian. Mafia have nothing to gain out of defending me since i'll flip cylon anyways + at the rate we are going a lynch on cylon Wilgy will probably be easy.
Things I'm looking for: BR and Silver's feedback regarding the events of last night and the content I created. Also, any opinions regarding my thoughts on Sig.
Linki - Not that I would no sadly. If he's soul reading me as civilian I appreciate it, that and the above opinions are all I got.
I don't like how Black Rock and Sokoth came in here and placed a vote on you and peaced out with not much else to say after you already claimed. I would like for both of them to explain why they voted you after you claimed. It makes little sense and the better move would be to vote for someone else they suspected.
What the fuck is actually suspicious about any of these things? You're so full of shit.sig wrote: Zebra for her lack of content, proclamations with no evidence what so ever, and lack of game solving.
What a coincidence, I'm down with lynching sig or you tomorrow. Not Wilgy though.Polo wrote:I'm down with lynching either sig or Zebra tomorrow. Maybe Wilgy, but I got a LOT of reading to do.
Sounds like we're gonna have to sortie Golden.Golden wrote:Hello all.
Due to having a very busy time of it, I'm well aware that I haven't been quite as well keeping up with things like official voting orders and sanctions for failure to admire the admiral.
I just thought I'd let you all know that... I have not forgotten. I'm keeping notes of the things I need to catch up on. And I will be catching up soon
sig wrote:Blame Daisy for my absences I was watching Firefly :PJaggedJimmyJay wrote:Who are your suspects?sig wrote:If we say we don't need all cylons dead to win and our win cons change to need them all dead, I'm assuming he wasn't 100% a civ. I'd say LC was an independent. However, whether if he was or not zebra using LCs flip to try and make herself seem good is pingy to me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Was he not? Has this been a confirmed truth, or is it an assumption drawn by people who are pursuing different agendas to the ones LC seemed interested in?sig wrote:Not really since he wasn't civ.a2thezebra wrote:I was right about LC being confirmed though.
You have three minutes.
I'd say my top three are Wilgy, Zebra, and Polo.
Wilgy for being an outted cylon with uncivvie behavior.
Zebra for her lack of content, proclamations with no evidence what so ever, and lack of game solving.
Polo for his mafiaish behavior, such as wanting to lynch non claimers and him repeatedly asking what players think of a few player. I think that is mafia attempting to start a wagon without directly doing it testing the water so to speak. Plus his actions revolving Wilgy.
Golden wrote:Hello all.
Due to having a very busy time of it, I'm well aware that I haven't been quite as well keeping up with things like official voting orders and sanctions for failure to admire the admiral.
I just thought I'd let you all know that... I have not forgotten. I'm keeping notes of the things I need to catch up on. And I will be catching up soon
Don't listen to him, it's a tarp!SokothQultuq wrote:Golden wrote:Hello all.
Due to having a very busy time of it, I'm well aware that I haven't been quite as well keeping up with things like official voting orders and sanctions for failure to admire the admiral.
I just thought I'd let you all know that... I have not forgotten. I'm keeping notes of the things I need to catch up on. And I will be catching up soon
That's scary...
