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[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

tempted to say mac tmi-ed jack town the same way he did outed wolf

[Porscha]

tempted to say mac tmi-ed jack town the same way he did outed wolf

:/ instantly threw wrench into my thoughts

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Sorry lol

I'm not saying it confidently it just occurred to me

[Sabiplz]

tempted to say mac tmi-ed jack town the same way he did outed wolf

Imma need you to explain this

[Lilypetal]

tempted to say mac tmi-ed jack town the same way he did outed wolf

so in this world you think jack as town believed mac was also town, probably partially due to the shielding/pocketing by mac?

i could see it but is this just so we can push hk again lmao

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

tempted to say mac tmi-ed jack town the same way he did outed wolf

Imma need you to explain this

Which part?

tempted to say mac tmi-ed jack town the same way he did outed wolf

so in this world you think jack as town believed mac was also town, probably partially due to the shielding/pocketing by mac?

i could see it but is this just so we can push hk again lmao

Yeah

I mean it's not really in my best interest to bring this up about Jack necessarily, given wagons rn lol. I can try to solve other slots without it tying back to hk

[santygrass]

@Porscha did you read my case on Mac/Jack D2? I quoted it at SoD today. I am asking cuz you asked opinions on your Jack Iso or smth. And that have most of my thoughts regarding Jack tbh

I probs did I likely just forgot due to your quote posts being long bois. summary?

Smh if you have the time I think its best to read it, its good I swear.

Summary is prob Jack pushes consisting on a empty argument+sheeping another read, and always in a wagon that was opposite of Mac. Like there is a high amount of lowkey shielding Mac without expressing a proper townread on him.
D1 Voted HK when wagons were Mac/Hk/Me? Iirc going byy D1 I dont have votecounts. In D2 their vote in me put us at 4-r with Mac.
Another thing to note is how in D2 their reads were opposite almost from Mac (tr Esooa/hk, sus me) and still Mac townread them, which didnt make sense at all.
So both tr each other while not making mucj sense is policy worthy

@Porscha

[Sabiplz]

tempted to say mac tmi-ed jack town the same way he did outed wolf

@santygrass thots on this

[santygrass]

Neon you answered me what you thought it was Messy from ris worldview?
I know you said reactions and stuff but that isnt an answer to that question to me

I don't see how you draw 90% of the conclusions Riis has drawn from what has happened this game

Hmm, I think we are misunderstanding with each other or something.

In the initial post I quoted, I feel like you highlighted that I should be reading the same from ris that I did from Mac (As in, both having a messy worldview) . And what I asked you is to bring up where do you think ris view is messy.

Is that clear or I misinterpreted your post?

[santygrass]

tempted to say mac tmi-ed jack town the same way he did outed wolf

I could see it, but like the fact that Jack acted in such a pro-Mac way without stating a good reason to townreading him lr shielding him is very bad IMO. Like when they were wagoned but not so much as them seeing like they were going over , I feel like Jack just voted in a cw and didnt care to shield tbat townread if it was silent or something.

And then EoD D2 happened that felt really opportunistic from Jack to appear at that time and be available for the flashwagons you know, to even flashwagon Esooa who was a townread from them before

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Jack is a noted busser/distancer, fwiw

[santygrass]

Do you think that with their current involvment into the game and gimmick posting Jack would bus tbh?

[santygrass]

Like,even if Mac flipped town how Jack voted at EoD is bad. And in general is bad fwiw.

Probably should relook at some post from EoD that maybe I confbiased as circlejrking or something with hollowkatt tho, cuz at that moment I wanted Mac's blood and they were in my way

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Do you think that with their current involvment into the game and gimmick posting Jack would bus tbh?

Yes? Maybe? I mean, I dont think they expect to endgame probably, so yeah, I don't really see bussing/distancing as unlikely for scumJack

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

He definitely change it up i don't think its compulsory or anything, just offering some context

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

*definitely could

[risiinq-]

why is hk voting nook now?

[santygrass]

Votecount asofrn

Jack (4) - riisinq-, Lilypetal, Porscha, santygrass
Nanook (3) - Esooa, hollowkatt, Neon
Riisinq- (1) - Sabiplz
Hollowkatt (1) - Nanook
Neon (1) - Wilgz
Not Voting (1) - Jack

[santygrass]

why is hk voting nook now?

Omgus mostly I'd say /shrug

[risiinq-]

hmm, how do i prove that i'm not paired with santy so that sabi can reevaluate their poe....

[risiinq-]

why is hk voting nook now?

Omgus mostly I'd say /shrug

i mean, last i checked hk was confidently saying nook was just tunneling so it probably isnt omgus

[santygrass]

At that point hk was kinda ignoring Nook srguments, so they talked a bit more and hk defense was to omgus. But prob I am not making a fair assesment there /shrug.

Hk argument was that nook push wasnt in bad faith I think or something like that. It was kinda recent too, lemme go search it

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

why is hk voting nook now?

trying not to spew his partners/he threw a piss fit

[Sabiplz]

At that point hk was kinda ignoring Nook srguments, so they talked a bit more and hk defense was to omgus. But prob I am not making a fair assesment there /shrug.

Hk argument was that nook push wasnt in bad faith I think or something like that. It was kinda recent too, lemme go search it

@risiinq- it was that Nook argument on HK was stale and frozen because Nook is only talking about HK volume tell and not about the content of his post or his shielding of mac. He felt it was empty and performative by Nook.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

why is hk voting nook now?

Omgus mostly I'd say /shrug

i mean, last i checked hk was confidently saying nook was just tunneling so it probably isnt omgus

it literally is lol

[Sabiplz]

Can we not start hk vs Nook plz.

I have hk focused on solving.

[Sabiplz]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

[Porscha]

Like,even if Mac flipped town how Jack voted at EoD is bad. And in general is bad fwiw.

Probably should relook at some post from EoD that maybe I confbiased as circlejrking or something with hollowkatt tho, cuz at that moment I wanted Mac's blood and they were in my way

yes I agree with the general shielding of each other but I also know that jack was riding the "santy is wolf" wave all of day 1 day 2 and only put you as town now. could have been a fake reason for his voting on you instead of mac

[santygrass]

Spoiler: show

@hollowkatt here's the relevant part

Want to you guys talk about more about the 'Meta dont being applicable here part that hk mentions. Cuz I think Nanook statementes where accurate? Like, of them being relatively to each game and a good tell and stuff, so why they dont apply here...?

tldr

Alright

Idk how you expect me to find you town off your responses lol

Like if you want to talk about why the read doesn't apply here we can but your responses so far are

Hard not to read as mafia lol

Idk how you expect me to find you town off your responses lol

I haven't expected you to find me town since the middle of D1 when you suddenly decided I wasn't. Why should I bother trying to do that now?
this isn't a pissy thing, it's a legit question.
What benefit do I, or the thread, gain by trying to prove to you that I'm town? You have no credit or I'd be top wagon. you couldn't get me over D1, couldn't do it D2, can't do it today.

I don't think you're wolfing, I think you're just tunneled and don't feel like breaking you out of it.

The amount of time you spent writing a post that amounts to a fancy "fuck you nanook" could've just as easily been spent actually engaging with the question lol. I'm not looking for an eight paragraph essay, literally just looking for like one or two actually relevant sentences

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

Why does relative volume tell doesn't apply to this game?

Whoops forgot how to talk lol

"Why does your relative volume tell not apply this game?"

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

Why does relative volume tell doesn't apply to this game?

because my "hk is frozen and crying in wolf chat" tell is almost always a strict volume tell, not relative.

My average post count as a wolf follows a downward sloping trend with D1 typically being the highest at around 100 with the average being much closer to 60-80. My peak count as town is about 150-200 with an average in the mid 110-120 range. Of course this is all game dependent and post caps can have an impact, but it is almost a strict volume tell more like Michelles volume tell but not quite as stark.

As games continue my wolf games have drop offs of between 20-25 posts per day and my town game either has a slightly elevated count or has a drop of between 10-15.

Relative volume doesn't count this game because by the end of D1 we had players approaching 500 posts in some instances. I've never, as any alignment, hung with anyone posting more than 300 times. I think the highest I've ever cracked on any D1 has been 250. Trying to hang with multiple people posting over 300 times on D1 isn't something I've ever done nor will I ever do. I don't have the time, desire, or finger capacity for that many posts in a phase.

So when you say "HK has a relative post count tell as wolf" you're ignoring that this game started with some extreme hyperposting and are attempting to hold me to some kind of unreasonable standard. The sole reason I don't think you're a wolf trying to push me over here is because I think you firmly believe what it is you're trying to sell regarding me. At first I thought you were wolfy and opportunistic but the longer you've stuck with it the more I think "nanook believes this" and from my chair I can't argue with what you believe as it is, on face value, accurate.

It just so happens to be wrong. Having 300ish posts on D3 is absolutely on par for my game. You think it's wolfy because we also have
879
631
630
487
450

in this game. I can't control how much other people post. I post when I can as much as I can as good as I can. If that isn't enough posts, or the posts aren't when they should be happening there's nothing I can (or will) do about it. I have other things to do besides play mafia games. ffs this game already has more than twice the number of posts as my entire S7 qualifier did and I dominated that game by post count. It''s got to be approaching one of the largest syndicate games ever played.

I haven't engaged with you because I don't think I can change your mind. It's why I've basically ignored what you're posting about when you're talking about me. I've tried focusing on other people, engaging with them, and using that to show I'm town. If it's not working that's on me, I get that, but at some point I've got to ask myself why bother trying to change nanooks mind, it's not working when I post freely, give thoughts unprompted on things, and generally aren't making the types of major missteps with my game.

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

Why does relative volume tell doesn't apply to this game?

because my "hk is frozen and crying in wolf chat" tell is almost always a strict volume tell, not relative.

My average post count as a wolf follows a downward sloping trend with D1 typically being the highest at around 100 with the average being much closer to 60-80. My peak count as town is about 150-200 with an average in the mid 110-120 range. Of course this is all game dependent and post caps can have an impact, but it is almost a strict volume tell more like Michelles volume tell but not quite as stark.

As games continue my wolf games have drop offs of between 20-25 posts per day and my town game either has a slightly elevated count or has a drop of between 10-15.

Relative volume doesn't count this game because by the end of D1 we had players approaching 500 posts in some instances. I've never, as any alignment, hung with anyone posting more than 300 times. I think the highest I've ever cracked on any D1 has been 250. Trying to hang with multiple people posting over 300 times on D1 isn't something I've ever done nor will I ever do. I don't have the time, desire, or finger capacity for that many posts in a phase.

So when you say "HK has a relative post count tell as wolf" you're ignoring that this game started with some extreme hyperposting and are attempting to hold me to some kind of unreasonable standard. The sole reason I don't think you're a wolf trying to push me over here is because I think you firmly believe what it is you're trying to sell regarding me. At first I thought you were wolfy and opportunistic but the longer you've stuck with it the more I think "nanook believes this" and from my chair I can't argue with what you believe as it is, on face value, accurate.

It just so happens to be wrong. Having 300ish posts on D3 is absolutely on par for my game. You think it's wolfy because we also have
879
631
630
487
450

in this game. I can't control how much other people post. I post when I can as much as I can as good as I can. If that isn't enough posts, or the posts aren't when they should be happening there's nothing I can (or will) do about it. I have other things to do besides play mafia games. ffs this game already has more than twice the number of posts as my entire S7 qualifier did and I dominated that game by post count. It''s got to be approaching one of the largest syndicate games ever played.

I haven't engaged with you because I don't think I can change your mind. It's why I've basically ignored what you're posting about when you're talking about me. I've tried focusing on other people, engaging with them, and using that to show I'm town. If it's not working that's on me, I get that, but at some point I've got to ask myself why bother trying to change nanooks mind, it's not working when I post freely, give thoughts unprompted on things, and generally aren't making the types of major missteps with my game.

Mafia, 265 posts in 2 days (132.5 avg) https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ame-Thread

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The tell has always been relative to thread volume, not a straight volume tell. Something we've talked about and you've acknowledged in the past, I believe? So I'm confused that you're trying to refute it now lol

The thread inflation argument is a fair enough one, but even if I adjust to a more relatively reasonable thread volume, you're still in the "I need to look at hk range." Like yeah, this thread volume is crazy, but your ratio is low for a "reasonable" 4k post game too, it isn't low just by this game's absurd standards. Its also not even the main reason I'm SRing you, though I suppose its the easiest to combat so fair enough.

at some point I've got to ask myself why bother trying to change nanooks mind

This is hard to take seriously when you've dodged responding to me in any meaningful way for two game days lol, seems like that point was right away


Your response could have changed my mind, but arguing the tell is different than what I've demonstrated it to be both in this game and in the past, the misrepresentation of your own play, and your general dismissiveness, it isn't doing it for me tbh

ok

[VOTE: hk] aubergine I'm bored now and apparently even my best isn't good enough

@santygrass do you have eod1 vc? Host hasn't been saving polls

Anyway to clarify my position about HK bus not making a lot of sense, if that statement is actually true it would mean the following people are fine:

Sabi, Lily, Nook, Jack, Santy, and Esooa and of course RIP Ender

If I am remembering the wagons correctly.

Viable off votals partners with a wolf HK are Me, Mac, Porscha, Wilgy, Snow, Neon with HK being wolf in this scenario and RIP OW.

The issue I have with this is I feel like OW's strong SRs were at times me/santy/lily, but in this model 2 of these voted for HK and I know I am town so there are worlds where HK was onto something somewhere he but I don't think those worlds exist with him being wrong about HK.

So as I've said before I think HK is just town.

Think here
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Excellent, thank you

EoD D1 Votecount

(As recalled by Achro, call out a mistake if you see one) We know for sure it was 8-7 tho.)

Ender (8) - Visorslash , MacDougall , Porscha, Wilgy, Snow, Neon , Achromatic, Hollowkatt
Hollowkatt (7) Sabi, Lily, Nook, Jack, Santy, Esooa, Enderwiggin

Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

You're ignoring the part where I said adjusted for a 4k post game its still low lol

And the part where I linked mafia games you've had similar volume?

Please tho, continue arguing against this straw man

Like you're trying to sound reasonable but you're just completely ignoring what I've said lol

Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

You're ignoring the part where I said adjusted for a 4k post game its still low lol

And the part where I linked mafia games you've had similar volume?

Please tho, continue arguing against this straw man

ask JJJ to turn ignore back on and forget I exist I'm done talking

Like you're trying to sound reasonable but you're just completely ignoring what I've said lol

no I'm really fucking not but this conversation is infinitely aggravating and I'm no longer participating in it. You vote me, I vote you, nobody else gives a flying fuck

someone ping me when the next day starts

Like ok, I'm not going to shut up for a minute but it's like this:
You've been pushing me this entire game on some bullshit volume tell and that's literally it. You're not arguing content, you're not arguing I'm doing wolfy things. For fucks sake you didn't even care about how hard I defended Mac yesterday.
Your entire schtick is "HK has a volume tell".

There's no teeth behind your push either, it's weak, lame, and boring. At least combine it with "and also defended mac" or "started the esooa flash wagon", or "appears to be lurking the thread and only posts when he's pressured", or literally any of the other traditionally wolfy things that I've done this game.

BUT YOU HAVEN"T?!

That's the part I can't grok and it's why I now think you're a wolf.
All you're doing is arguing semantics and whether or not I have a strict volume tell or a relativistic volume tell.

So no, I'm done. My vote is parked and idgaf any more

Ok boomer

Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

I'm all out of rage, just bored with the push you can't seem to articulate better than volume tell.
Funny how you didn't bring up "my posts are bad" until I told you you haven't done so yet.

Anyways: counter to volume tell: GOC 2020. I subbed in late D2 for Thunal and lived to N8 when I was the NK. In that time (6 days) I had just over 600 posts. 100ish per day.
Which is exactly what I'm at here.
I was town.

If your bigger reason was my posts lowkey suck why is this the first time you've said anything? Like I can work with "lowkey suck", I can dialog about that, we can look at my posts and you can ask questions, but you haven't nanook. your whole case is predicated on volume tell which I've already discussed.

If you want to talk about sucky posts lets do that. Find some, ask me about them, dialog. I can't, and won't, dialog about volume tell any further, it's pointless.

Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

I'm all out of rage, just bored with the push you can't seem to articulate better than volume tell.
Funny how you didn't bring up "my posts are bad" until I told you you haven't done so yet.

Anyways: counter to volume tell: GOC 2020. I subbed in late D2 for Thunal and lived to N8 when I was the NK. In that time (6 days) I had just over 600 posts. 100ish per day.
Which is exactly what I'm at here.
I was town.

If your bigger reason was my posts lowkey suck why is this the first time you've said anything? Like I can work with "lowkey suck", I can dialog about that, we can look at my posts and you can ask questions, but you haven't nanook. your whole case is predicated on volume tell which I've already discussed.

If you want to talk about sucky posts lets do that. Find some, ask me about them, dialog. I can't, and won't, dialog about volume tell any further, it's pointless.

If you can't tell that "volume thing is a contributing factor" means that the volume tell isn't the only reason I'm SRing you, something I've been saying since d1, im flabbergasted

Your posts are lifeless, I was hoping if you're town you'd have some kind of "im not feeling the game for x y or z reason" thing, you fixated on the volume tell then lashed out, so I'm done talking to you. Zero desire to engage in this.

QUOTE DUMP BEWARE. think there should be the recent exchange between them @risiinq- . Now I go to sleep. Tomorrow I'll try to do some more that I konda ignored Jack lasts posts amd thats no Bueno

[Porscha]

hmm, how do i prove that i'm not paired with santy so that sabi can reevaluate their poe....

you pretty much can't after santy turned into a vest made out of kevlar for you and you said thank you very much sir

[risiinq-]

Spoiler: show

@hollowkatt here's the relevant part

Want to you guys talk about more about the 'Meta dont being applicable here part that hk mentions. Cuz I think Nanook statementes where accurate? Like, of them being relatively to each game and a good tell and stuff, so why they dont apply here...?

tldr

Alright

Idk how you expect me to find you town off your responses lol

Like if you want to talk about why the read doesn't apply here we can but your responses so far are

Hard not to read as mafia lol

Idk how you expect me to find you town off your responses lol

I haven't expected you to find me town since the middle of D1 when you suddenly decided I wasn't. Why should I bother trying to do that now?
this isn't a pissy thing, it's a legit question.
What benefit do I, or the thread, gain by trying to prove to you that I'm town? You have no credit or I'd be top wagon. you couldn't get me over D1, couldn't do it D2, can't do it today.

I don't think you're wolfing, I think you're just tunneled and don't feel like breaking you out of it.

The amount of time you spent writing a post that amounts to a fancy "fuck you nanook" could've just as easily been spent actually engaging with the question lol. I'm not looking for an eight paragraph essay, literally just looking for like one or two actually relevant sentences

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

Why does relative volume tell doesn't apply to this game?

Whoops forgot how to talk lol

"Why does your relative volume tell not apply this game?"

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

Why does relative volume tell doesn't apply to this game?

because my "hk is frozen and crying in wolf chat" tell is almost always a strict volume tell, not relative.

My average post count as a wolf follows a downward sloping trend with D1 typically being the highest at around 100 with the average being much closer to 60-80. My peak count as town is about 150-200 with an average in the mid 110-120 range. Of course this is all game dependent and post caps can have an impact, but it is almost a strict volume tell more like Michelles volume tell but not quite as stark.

As games continue my wolf games have drop offs of between 20-25 posts per day and my town game either has a slightly elevated count or has a drop of between 10-15.

Relative volume doesn't count this game because by the end of D1 we had players approaching 500 posts in some instances. I've never, as any alignment, hung with anyone posting more than 300 times. I think the highest I've ever cracked on any D1 has been 250. Trying to hang with multiple people posting over 300 times on D1 isn't something I've ever done nor will I ever do. I don't have the time, desire, or finger capacity for that many posts in a phase.

So when you say "HK has a relative post count tell as wolf" you're ignoring that this game started with some extreme hyperposting and are attempting to hold me to some kind of unreasonable standard. The sole reason I don't think you're a wolf trying to push me over here is because I think you firmly believe what it is you're trying to sell regarding me. At first I thought you were wolfy and opportunistic but the longer you've stuck with it the more I think "nanook believes this" and from my chair I can't argue with what you believe as it is, on face value, accurate.

It just so happens to be wrong. Having 300ish posts on D3 is absolutely on par for my game. You think it's wolfy because we also have
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in this game. I can't control how much other people post. I post when I can as much as I can as good as I can. If that isn't enough posts, or the posts aren't when they should be happening there's nothing I can (or will) do about it. I have other things to do besides play mafia games. ffs this game already has more than twice the number of posts as my entire S7 qualifier did and I dominated that game by post count. It''s got to be approaching one of the largest syndicate games ever played.

I haven't engaged with you because I don't think I can change your mind. It's why I've basically ignored what you're posting about when you're talking about me. I've tried focusing on other people, engaging with them, and using that to show I'm town. If it's not working that's on me, I get that, but at some point I've got to ask myself why bother trying to change nanooks mind, it's not working when I post freely, give thoughts unprompted on things, and generally aren't making the types of major missteps with my game.

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

Why does relative volume tell doesn't apply to this game?

because my "hk is frozen and crying in wolf chat" tell is almost always a strict volume tell, not relative.

My average post count as a wolf follows a downward sloping trend with D1 typically being the highest at around 100 with the average being much closer to 60-80. My peak count as town is about 150-200 with an average in the mid 110-120 range. Of course this is all game dependent and post caps can have an impact, but it is almost a strict volume tell more like Michelles volume tell but not quite as stark.

As games continue my wolf games have drop offs of between 20-25 posts per day and my town game either has a slightly elevated count or has a drop of between 10-15.

Relative volume doesn't count this game because by the end of D1 we had players approaching 500 posts in some instances. I've never, as any alignment, hung with anyone posting more than 300 times. I think the highest I've ever cracked on any D1 has been 250. Trying to hang with multiple people posting over 300 times on D1 isn't something I've ever done nor will I ever do. I don't have the time, desire, or finger capacity for that many posts in a phase.

So when you say "HK has a relative post count tell as wolf" you're ignoring that this game started with some extreme hyperposting and are attempting to hold me to some kind of unreasonable standard. The sole reason I don't think you're a wolf trying to push me over here is because I think you firmly believe what it is you're trying to sell regarding me. At first I thought you were wolfy and opportunistic but the longer you've stuck with it the more I think "nanook believes this" and from my chair I can't argue with what you believe as it is, on face value, accurate.

It just so happens to be wrong. Having 300ish posts on D3 is absolutely on par for my game. You think it's wolfy because we also have
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in this game. I can't control how much other people post. I post when I can as much as I can as good as I can. If that isn't enough posts, or the posts aren't when they should be happening there's nothing I can (or will) do about it. I have other things to do besides play mafia games. ffs this game already has more than twice the number of posts as my entire S7 qualifier did and I dominated that game by post count. It''s got to be approaching one of the largest syndicate games ever played.

I haven't engaged with you because I don't think I can change your mind. It's why I've basically ignored what you're posting about when you're talking about me. I've tried focusing on other people, engaging with them, and using that to show I'm town. If it's not working that's on me, I get that, but at some point I've got to ask myself why bother trying to change nanooks mind, it's not working when I post freely, give thoughts unprompted on things, and generally aren't making the types of major missteps with my game.

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The tell has always been relative to thread volume, not a straight volume tell. Something we've talked about and you've acknowledged in the past, I believe? So I'm confused that you're trying to refute it now lol

The thread inflation argument is a fair enough one, but even if I adjust to a more relatively reasonable thread volume, you're still in the "I need to look at hk range." Like yeah, this thread volume is crazy, but your ratio is low for a "reasonable" 4k post game too, it isn't low just by this game's absurd standards. Its also not even the main reason I'm SRing you, though I suppose its the easiest to combat so fair enough.

at some point I've got to ask myself why bother trying to change nanooks mind

This is hard to take seriously when you've dodged responding to me in any meaningful way for two game days lol, seems like that point was right away


Your response could have changed my mind, but arguing the tell is different than what I've demonstrated it to be both in this game and in the past, the misrepresentation of your own play, and your general dismissiveness, it isn't doing it for me tbh

ok

[VOTE: hk] aubergine I'm bored now and apparently even my best isn't good enough

@santygrass do you have eod1 vc? Host hasn't been saving polls

Anyway to clarify my position about HK bus not making a lot of sense, if that statement is actually true it would mean the following people are fine:

Sabi, Lily, Nook, Jack, Santy, and Esooa and of course RIP Ender

If I am remembering the wagons correctly.

Viable off votals partners with a wolf HK are Me, Mac, Porscha, Wilgy, Snow, Neon with HK being wolf in this scenario and RIP OW.

The issue I have with this is I feel like OW's strong SRs were at times me/santy/lily, but in this model 2 of these voted for HK and I know I am town so there are worlds where HK was onto something somewhere he but I don't think those worlds exist with him being wrong about HK.

So as I've said before I think HK is just town.

Think here
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Excellent, thank you

EoD D1 Votecount

(As recalled by Achro, call out a mistake if you see one) We know for sure it was 8-7 tho.)

Ender (8) - Visorslash , MacDougall , Porscha, Wilgy, Snow, Neon , Achromatic, Hollowkatt
Hollowkatt (7) Sabi, Lily, Nook, Jack, Santy, Esooa, Enderwiggin

Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

You're ignoring the part where I said adjusted for a 4k post game its still low lol

And the part where I linked mafia games you've had similar volume?

Please tho, continue arguing against this straw man

Like you're trying to sound reasonable but you're just completely ignoring what I've said lol

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

You're ignoring the part where I said adjusted for a 4k post game its still low lol

And the part where I linked mafia games you've had similar volume?

Please tho, continue arguing against this straw man

ask JJJ to turn ignore back on and forget I exist I'm done talking

Like you're trying to sound reasonable but you're just completely ignoring what I've said lol

no I'm really fucking not but this conversation is infinitely aggravating and I'm no longer participating in it. You vote me, I vote you, nobody else gives a flying fuck

someone ping me when the next day starts

Like ok, I'm not going to shut up for a minute but it's like this:
You've been pushing me this entire game on some bullshit volume tell and that's literally it. You're not arguing content, you're not arguing I'm doing wolfy things. For fucks sake you didn't even care about how hard I defended Mac yesterday.
Your entire schtick is "HK has a volume tell".

There's no teeth behind your push either, it's weak, lame, and boring. At least combine it with "and also defended mac" or "started the esooa flash wagon", or "appears to be lurking the thread and only posts when he's pressured", or literally any of the other traditionally wolfy things that I've done this game.

BUT YOU HAVEN"T?!

That's the part I can't grok and it's why I now think you're a wolf.
All you're doing is arguing semantics and whether or not I have a strict volume tell or a relativistic volume tell.

So no, I'm done. My vote is parked and idgaf any more

Ok boomer

Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

I'm all out of rage, just bored with the push you can't seem to articulate better than volume tell.
Funny how you didn't bring up "my posts are bad" until I told you you haven't done so yet.

Anyways: counter to volume tell: GOC 2020. I subbed in late D2 for Thunal and lived to N8 when I was the NK. In that time (6 days) I had just over 600 posts. 100ish per day.
Which is exactly what I'm at here.
I was town.

If your bigger reason was my posts lowkey suck why is this the first time you've said anything? Like I can work with "lowkey suck", I can dialog about that, we can look at my posts and you can ask questions, but you haven't nanook. your whole case is predicated on volume tell which I've already discussed.

If you want to talk about sucky posts lets do that. Find some, ask me about them, dialog. I can't, and won't, dialog about volume tell any further, it's pointless.

Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

I'm all out of rage, just bored with the push you can't seem to articulate better than volume tell.
Funny how you didn't bring up "my posts are bad" until I told you you haven't done so yet.

Anyways: counter to volume tell: GOC 2020. I subbed in late D2 for Thunal and lived to N8 when I was the NK. In that time (6 days) I had just over 600 posts. 100ish per day.
Which is exactly what I'm at here.
I was town.

If your bigger reason was my posts lowkey suck why is this the first time you've said anything? Like I can work with "lowkey suck", I can dialog about that, we can look at my posts and you can ask questions, but you haven't nanook. your whole case is predicated on volume tell which I've already discussed.

If you want to talk about sucky posts lets do that. Find some, ask me about them, dialog. I can't, and won't, dialog about volume tell any further, it's pointless.

If you can't tell that "volume thing is a contributing factor" means that the volume tell isn't the only reason I'm SRing you, something I've been saying since d1, im flabbergasted

Your posts are lifeless, I was hoping if you're town you'd have some kind of "im not feeling the game for x y or z reason" thing, you fixated on the volume tell then lashed out, so I'm done talking to you. Zero desire to engage in this.

QUOTE DUMP BEWARE. think there should be the recent exchange between them @risiinq- . Now I go to sleep. Tomorrow I'll try to do some more that I konda ignored Jack lasts posts amd thats no Bueno

thank you very much sir

[santygrass]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Sorry, buy ris has both nook and hk in their PoE and to actually see them interact and their thoughts its something of my interest rn. My intention ismt to revive that discussion or smth like that

[Sabiplz]

Like,even if Mac flipped town how Jack voted at EoD is bad. And in general is bad fwiw.

Probably should relook at some post from EoD that maybe I confbiased as circlejrking or something with hollowkatt tho, cuz at that moment I wanted Mac's blood and they were in my way

yes I agree with the general shielding of each other but I also know that jack was riding the "santy is wolf" wave all of day 1 day 2 and only put you as town now. could have been a fake reason for his voting on you instead of mac

Jack progress on santy:

D1: tr santy
D2: sr santy
D3: tr santy

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Wowee

Guess you're gonna have to vote me, im uninterested in being dictated to about who I can and cannot talk about

[DrWilgy]

Jack is a noted busser/distancer, fwiw

Very much so, he's cut throat with his teammates.

[Porscha]

Spoiler: show

@hollowkatt here's the relevant part

Want to you guys talk about more about the 'Meta dont being applicable here part that hk mentions. Cuz I think Nanook statementes where accurate? Like, of them being relatively to each game and a good tell and stuff, so why they dont apply here...?

tldr

Alright

Idk how you expect me to find you town off your responses lol

Like if you want to talk about why the read doesn't apply here we can but your responses so far are

Hard not to read as mafia lol

Idk how you expect me to find you town off your responses lol

I haven't expected you to find me town since the middle of D1 when you suddenly decided I wasn't. Why should I bother trying to do that now?
this isn't a pissy thing, it's a legit question.
What benefit do I, or the thread, gain by trying to prove to you that I'm town? You have no credit or I'd be top wagon. you couldn't get me over D1, couldn't do it D2, can't do it today.

I don't think you're wolfing, I think you're just tunneled and don't feel like breaking you out of it.

The amount of time you spent writing a post that amounts to a fancy "fuck you nanook" could've just as easily been spent actually engaging with the question lol. I'm not looking for an eight paragraph essay, literally just looking for like one or two actually relevant sentences

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

Why does relative volume tell doesn't apply to this game?

Whoops forgot how to talk lol

"Why does your relative volume tell not apply this game?"

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

Why does relative volume tell doesn't apply to this game?

because my "hk is frozen and crying in wolf chat" tell is almost always a strict volume tell, not relative.

My average post count as a wolf follows a downward sloping trend with D1 typically being the highest at around 100 with the average being much closer to 60-80. My peak count as town is about 150-200 with an average in the mid 110-120 range. Of course this is all game dependent and post caps can have an impact, but it is almost a strict volume tell more like Michelles volume tell but not quite as stark.

As games continue my wolf games have drop offs of between 20-25 posts per day and my town game either has a slightly elevated count or has a drop of between 10-15.

Relative volume doesn't count this game because by the end of D1 we had players approaching 500 posts in some instances. I've never, as any alignment, hung with anyone posting more than 300 times. I think the highest I've ever cracked on any D1 has been 250. Trying to hang with multiple people posting over 300 times on D1 isn't something I've ever done nor will I ever do. I don't have the time, desire, or finger capacity for that many posts in a phase.

So when you say "HK has a relative post count tell as wolf" you're ignoring that this game started with some extreme hyperposting and are attempting to hold me to some kind of unreasonable standard. The sole reason I don't think you're a wolf trying to push me over here is because I think you firmly believe what it is you're trying to sell regarding me. At first I thought you were wolfy and opportunistic but the longer you've stuck with it the more I think "nanook believes this" and from my chair I can't argue with what you believe as it is, on face value, accurate.

It just so happens to be wrong. Having 300ish posts on D3 is absolutely on par for my game. You think it's wolfy because we also have
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in this game. I can't control how much other people post. I post when I can as much as I can as good as I can. If that isn't enough posts, or the posts aren't when they should be happening there's nothing I can (or will) do about it. I have other things to do besides play mafia games. ffs this game already has more than twice the number of posts as my entire S7 qualifier did and I dominated that game by post count. It''s got to be approaching one of the largest syndicate games ever played.

I haven't engaged with you because I don't think I can change your mind. It's why I've basically ignored what you're posting about when you're talking about me. I've tried focusing on other people, engaging with them, and using that to show I'm town. If it's not working that's on me, I get that, but at some point I've got to ask myself why bother trying to change nanooks mind, it's not working when I post freely, give thoughts unprompted on things, and generally aren't making the types of major missteps with my game.

If I don't find you I WILL get you over at some point, or ill get NKed and santy will get you over. Either way, if you're town it would be pretty good if I can find you here lol, all im asking for is like a minute or two of engagement, pretty reasonable imo

fine, what do you want from me?

Why does relative volume tell doesn't apply to this game?

because my "hk is frozen and crying in wolf chat" tell is almost always a strict volume tell, not relative.

My average post count as a wolf follows a downward sloping trend with D1 typically being the highest at around 100 with the average being much closer to 60-80. My peak count as town is about 150-200 with an average in the mid 110-120 range. Of course this is all game dependent and post caps can have an impact, but it is almost a strict volume tell more like Michelles volume tell but not quite as stark.

As games continue my wolf games have drop offs of between 20-25 posts per day and my town game either has a slightly elevated count or has a drop of between 10-15.

Relative volume doesn't count this game because by the end of D1 we had players approaching 500 posts in some instances. I've never, as any alignment, hung with anyone posting more than 300 times. I think the highest I've ever cracked on any D1 has been 250. Trying to hang with multiple people posting over 300 times on D1 isn't something I've ever done nor will I ever do. I don't have the time, desire, or finger capacity for that many posts in a phase.

So when you say "HK has a relative post count tell as wolf" you're ignoring that this game started with some extreme hyperposting and are attempting to hold me to some kind of unreasonable standard. The sole reason I don't think you're a wolf trying to push me over here is because I think you firmly believe what it is you're trying to sell regarding me. At first I thought you were wolfy and opportunistic but the longer you've stuck with it the more I think "nanook believes this" and from my chair I can't argue with what you believe as it is, on face value, accurate.

It just so happens to be wrong. Having 300ish posts on D3 is absolutely on par for my game. You think it's wolfy because we also have
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in this game. I can't control how much other people post. I post when I can as much as I can as good as I can. If that isn't enough posts, or the posts aren't when they should be happening there's nothing I can (or will) do about it. I have other things to do besides play mafia games. ffs this game already has more than twice the number of posts as my entire S7 qualifier did and I dominated that game by post count. It''s got to be approaching one of the largest syndicate games ever played.

I haven't engaged with you because I don't think I can change your mind. It's why I've basically ignored what you're posting about when you're talking about me. I've tried focusing on other people, engaging with them, and using that to show I'm town. If it's not working that's on me, I get that, but at some point I've got to ask myself why bother trying to change nanooks mind, it's not working when I post freely, give thoughts unprompted on things, and generally aren't making the types of major missteps with my game.

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The tell has always been relative to thread volume, not a straight volume tell. Something we've talked about and you've acknowledged in the past, I believe? So I'm confused that you're trying to refute it now lol

The thread inflation argument is a fair enough one, but even if I adjust to a more relatively reasonable thread volume, you're still in the "I need to look at hk range." Like yeah, this thread volume is crazy, but your ratio is low for a "reasonable" 4k post game too, it isn't low just by this game's absurd standards. Its also not even the main reason I'm SRing you, though I suppose its the easiest to combat so fair enough.

at some point I've got to ask myself why bother trying to change nanooks mind

This is hard to take seriously when you've dodged responding to me in any meaningful way for two game days lol, seems like that point was right away


Your response could have changed my mind, but arguing the tell is different than what I've demonstrated it to be both in this game and in the past, the misrepresentation of your own play, and your general dismissiveness, it isn't doing it for me tbh

ok

[VOTE: hk] aubergine I'm bored now and apparently even my best isn't good enough

@santygrass do you have eod1 vc? Host hasn't been saving polls

Anyway to clarify my position about HK bus not making a lot of sense, if that statement is actually true it would mean the following people are fine:

Sabi, Lily, Nook, Jack, Santy, and Esooa and of course RIP Ender

If I am remembering the wagons correctly.

Viable off votals partners with a wolf HK are Me, Mac, Porscha, Wilgy, Snow, Neon with HK being wolf in this scenario and RIP OW.

The issue I have with this is I feel like OW's strong SRs were at times me/santy/lily, but in this model 2 of these voted for HK and I know I am town so there are worlds where HK was onto something somewhere he but I don't think those worlds exist with him being wrong about HK.

So as I've said before I think HK is just town.

Think here
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Excellent, thank you

EoD D1 Votecount

(As recalled by Achro, call out a mistake if you see one) We know for sure it was 8-7 tho.)

Ender (8) - Visorslash , MacDougall , Porscha, Wilgy, Snow, Neon , Achromatic, Hollowkatt
Hollowkatt (7) Sabi, Lily, Nook, Jack, Santy, Esooa, Enderwiggin

Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

Old-thing not done secret old-thing tell. No kill-slay old thing today.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

jack please elaborate what tell you're referring to in regards to hk here?

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

You're ignoring the part where I said adjusted for a 4k post game its still low lol

And the part where I linked mafia games you've had similar volume?

Please tho, continue arguing against this straw man

Like you're trying to sound reasonable but you're just completely ignoring what I've said lol

This very secret tell. Old-thing no read!

Spoiler: show

When old-thing is mafia, old-thing says "I have changed my meta so your meta scumread on me is wrong"

.....

How is that materially different from his "your meta is wrong" defense against me, lol

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME explain to me what my "ratio" should have been to be town via volume in a game that had 3343 posts when D1 ended. Then explain to me where I find the time between a job, a 6yr old that needs supervision, help with school work, getting off the bus, bathed, fed, I cook dinner every night for between 45-60 minutes, then eat said food for 30 minutes, then sleep at least 6 hours. I'll wait.

You're ignoring the part where I said adjusted for a 4k post game its still low lol

And the part where I linked mafia games you've had similar volume?

Please tho, continue arguing against this straw man

ask JJJ to turn ignore back on and forget I exist I'm done talking

Like you're trying to sound reasonable but you're just completely ignoring what I've said lol

no I'm really fucking not but this conversation is infinitely aggravating and I'm no longer participating in it. You vote me, I vote you, nobody else gives a flying fuck

someone ping me when the next day starts

Like ok, I'm not going to shut up for a minute but it's like this:
You've been pushing me this entire game on some bullshit volume tell and that's literally it. You're not arguing content, you're not arguing I'm doing wolfy things. For fucks sake you didn't even care about how hard I defended Mac yesterday.
Your entire schtick is "HK has a volume tell".

There's no teeth behind your push either, it's weak, lame, and boring. At least combine it with "and also defended mac" or "started the esooa flash wagon", or "appears to be lurking the thread and only posts when he's pressured", or literally any of the other traditionally wolfy things that I've done this game.

BUT YOU HAVEN"T?!

That's the part I can't grok and it's why I now think you're a wolf.
All you're doing is arguing semantics and whether or not I have a strict volume tell or a relativistic volume tell.

So no, I'm done. My vote is parked and idgaf any more

Ok boomer

Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

I'm all out of rage, just bored with the push you can't seem to articulate better than volume tell.
Funny how you didn't bring up "my posts are bad" until I told you you haven't done so yet.

Anyways: counter to volume tell: GOC 2020. I subbed in late D2 for Thunal and lived to N8 when I was the NK. In that time (6 days) I had just over 600 posts. 100ish per day.
Which is exactly what I'm at here.
I was town.

If your bigger reason was my posts lowkey suck why is this the first time you've said anything? Like I can work with "lowkey suck", I can dialog about that, we can look at my posts and you can ask questions, but you haven't nanook. your whole case is predicated on volume tell which I've already discussed.

If you want to talk about sucky posts lets do that. Find some, ask me about them, dialog. I can't, and won't, dialog about volume tell any further, it's pointless.

Ftr you turned this into a discussion about the volume tell lol, ive been clear all along its only a contributing factor and the bigger reason is your posts lowkey suck

Which I've been trying to be polite about and couch in friendlier terms but if you're gonna turn the hk rage cannon my way I no longer feel compelled to do

I'm all out of rage, just bored with the push you can't seem to articulate better than volume tell.
Funny how you didn't bring up "my posts are bad" until I told you you haven't done so yet.

Anyways: counter to volume tell: GOC 2020. I subbed in late D2 for Thunal and lived to N8 when I was the NK. In that time (6 days) I had just over 600 posts. 100ish per day.
Which is exactly what I'm at here.
I was town.

If your bigger reason was my posts lowkey suck why is this the first time you've said anything? Like I can work with "lowkey suck", I can dialog about that, we can look at my posts and you can ask questions, but you haven't nanook. your whole case is predicated on volume tell which I've already discussed.

If you want to talk about sucky posts lets do that. Find some, ask me about them, dialog. I can't, and won't, dialog about volume tell any further, it's pointless.

If you can't tell that "volume thing is a contributing factor" means that the volume tell isn't the only reason I'm SRing you, something I've been saying since d1, im flabbergasted

Your posts are lifeless, I was hoping if you're town you'd have some kind of "im not feeling the game for x y or z reason" thing, you fixated on the volume tell then lashed out, so I'm done talking to you. Zero desire to engage in this.

QUOTE DUMP BEWARE. think there should be the recent exchange between them @risiinq- . Now I go to sleep. Tomorrow I'll try to do some more that I konda ignored Jack lasts posts amd thats no Bueno

thank you very much sir

*cri*

[DrWilgy]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Why tho

[Porscha]

Like,even if Mac flipped town how Jack voted at EoD is bad. And in general is bad fwiw.

Probably should relook at some post from EoD that maybe I confbiased as circlejrking or something with hollowkatt tho, cuz at that moment I wanted Mac's blood and they were in my way

yes I agree with the general shielding of each other but I also know that jack was riding the "santy is wolf" wave all of day 1 day 2 and only put you as town now. could have been a fake reason for his voting on you instead of mac

Jack progress on santy:

D1: tr santy
D2: sr santy
D3: tr santy

mmm... I read through jack's entire iso... i'm almost certain it was scrumread on santy from the very start.

[Sabiplz]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Wowee

Guess you're gonna have to vote me, im uninterested in being dictated to about who I can and cannot talk about

It's anti-town to bog down the game thread by you two ego fighting for three game days.

It literally kills everyone's wim.

So yes I will policy vote you for restarting it.

Now look at other slots. There's 9 for you to focus on.

[Porscha]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Why tho

sabi is trying to repent for their ate sins and prevent more of it from hk to keep hk from having a meltdown

[Sabiplz]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Why tho

Bruh.

Have you not read the thread.

It's been a cancer to thread health and vibes in here.

Wgz I'm rethinking this lock town status for you

[DrWilgy]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Why tho

sabi is trying to repent for their ate sins and prevent more of it from hk to keep hk from having a meltdown

Ah, I see...

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Wowee

Guess you're gonna have to vote me, im uninterested in being dictated to about who I can and cannot talk about

It's anti-town to bog down the game thread by you two ego fighting for three game days.

It literally kills everyone's wim.

So yes I will policy vote you for restarting it.

Now look at other slots. There's 9 for you to focus on.

Yeah I, nanook, am the reason for wim dying. With my 368 posts, all of which are direct attacks on hk.


Am I supposed to take this seriously lol

[Sabiplz]

Like,even if Mac flipped town how Jack voted at EoD is bad. And in general is bad fwiw.

Probably should relook at some post from EoD that maybe I confbiased as circlejrking or something with hollowkatt tho, cuz at that moment I wanted Mac's blood and they were in my way

yes I agree with the general shielding of each other but I also know that jack was riding the "santy is wolf" wave all of day 1 day 2 and only put you as town now. could have been a fake reason for his voting on you instead of mac

Jack progress on santy:

D1: tr santy
D2: sr santy
D3: tr santy

mmm... I read through jack's entire iso... i'm almost certain it was scrumread on santy from the very start.

He was quite literally agreeing and being positive towards santy in d1

[DrWilgy]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Why tho

Bruh.

Have you not read the thread.

It's been a cancer to thread health and vibes in here.

Wgz I'm rethinking this lock town status for you

I literally killed Mac in cold blood.

I'm 100% town 100% of the time and to think otherwise would be silly.

And no I haven't read the thread since day 1.

[Lilypetal]

@DrWilgy are u serious abt the neon thing

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

You don't have to engage with it, you don't get to dictate to me what and who I talk about lol

If you want me to talk about other slots ask me about them, the more you try to strong-arm me about this the more I'm going to troll about it

[Sabiplz]

No more talks of hk vs Nook.

No no topic.

I will policy vote anyone bringing it up again.

Let's be productive folks. It's been three game days of tat shit fest.

Why tho

Bruh.

Have you not read the thread.

It's been a cancer to thread health and vibes in here.

Wgz I'm rethinking this lock town status for you

I literally killed Mac in cold blood.

I'm 100% town 100% of the time and to think otherwise would be silly.

And no I haven't read the thread since day 1.

Then get off neon because she's not aligned with mac

[Porscha]

Look at Santy-thing's iso. Many statements. Much information yes-yes. But all worthless! Even nasty salad. Bleh! Queek does not eat salad, no-no! Eat wolf-things, instead. Queek smells wolf-thing fear-musk on Santy. Too nice to be skaven.

I guess if 9/12 was day 2 then yeah this is jack's first post sr'ing santy. my bad

[Sabiplz]

You don't have to engage with it, you don't get to dictate to me what and who I talk about lol

If you want me to talk about other slots ask me about them, the more you try to strong-arm me about this the more I'm going to troll about it

Nook get over yourself and look at this game. It's a team game. You engaging in a week long shit fest with HK isn't moving the game forward.

You're the one who complained about achro main character syndroming sf3.

What are you doing rn with HK.