The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:06 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:46 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:45 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:43 pm lmao @ nutella.

sorry, I just found it hilarious Kyle and DDL were still hypothesizing me as scum. Like, come on.
It's not as ridiculous as tinfoiling me though lol. Speed was talking about confirmed townies without even mentioning me?
LC is more confirmed than you.

To you I guess. But I think by most metrics/to most players I am more confirmed

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:07 pm**

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:05 pm I have thought a thought I thought I'd share. Tell me your thoughts on this thought.

If we lynch sig today and he's not the last baddie, the mafia is just going to continue killing again because the inactive scum idea has been dispelled. nijuu was here for the last missed nightkill, mind. We'd have 2 lynches to find them. If we don't lynch him today, we're forcing the mafia to either abstain from night kills or to show their hand. We'd gain extra lynches if they don't kill and spare us the sig mislynch if they do kill again.

That said, I do think it's sig. The first three scum flips + sig make a feasible scum team that could forget or miss kills.

WHOA. Yeah. You need a substitute kill.

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:09 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:07 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:05 pm I have thought a thought I thought I'd share. Tell me your thoughts on this thought.

If we lynch sig today and he's not the last baddie, the mafia is just going to continue killing again because the inactive scum idea has been dispelled. nijuu was here for the last missed nightkill, mind. We'd have 2 lynches to find them. If we don't lynch him today, we're forcing the mafia to either abstain from night kills or to show their hand. We'd gain extra lynches if they don't kill and spare us the sig mislynch if they do kill again.

That said, I do think it's sig. The first three scum flips + sig make a feasible scum team that could forget or miss kills.
WHOA. Yeah. You need a substitute kill.

ill be honest i havent been reading but i most certainly know im not gonna - ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:10 pm**

yeah lets maybe lynch speedchuck

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:12 pm**

if it's not sig, it's nijuu. If it's not nijuu, it's speedchuck.

everyone else is 100% town.

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:14 pm**

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:10 pm yeah lets maybe lynch speedchuck

don't be crazy. he's the self-acclaimed (kind of) 3p. why the hell are we doing what he wants us to do?

Also, he's clearly got that you/me mentality in his posts, and is not helping town by narrowing it down for lonely scummer a "100%" townie list of "confirmed roles".

get outta here.

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:15 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:14 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:10 pm yeah lets maybe lynch speedchuck
don't be crazy. he's the self-acclaimed (kind of) 3p. why the hell are we doing what he wants us to do?

Also, he's clearly got that you/me mentality in his posts, and is not helping town by narrowing it down for lonely scummer a "100%" townie list of "confirmed roles".

get outta here.

ico Pay de Rizaba Oay

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:16 pm**

the only way I'm lynching him is after sig/nijuu flip town. Then he's been lying about being the 3P and either the 3P is one of sig/niju, or already been night killed by scum. and then I never play mafia with him again. -_-

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:16 pm**

ok wait im having a brainfart sig isnt voting for him haha lol

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:17 pm**

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:15 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:14 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:10 pm yeah lets maybe lynch speedchuck
don't be crazy. he's the self-acclaimed (kind of) 3p. why the hell are we doing what he wants us to do?

Also, he's clearly got that you/me mentality in his posts, and is not helping town by narrowing it down for lonely scummer a "100%" townie list of "confirmed roles".

get outta here.
ico Pay de Rizaba Oay

Pico de Orizaba can only lynch someone who's voted for him. So he can lynch you with him.

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:19 pm**

I thought he was pulling a 'I'm a suspect so I'll take myself and sig off the poll in a 2 for 1 deal that saves numbers' or something

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:44 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:16 pm and then I never play mafia with him again. -_-

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:55 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:43 pm lmao @ nutella.

sorry, I just found it hilarious Kyle and DDL were still hypothesizing me as scum. Like, come on.

I respect you enough to assume you could secretly be amazingly good at lying.

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:55 pm**

my spider sense is tingling

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:58 pm**

i'm pretty sure 29gou is mafia

Posted: **Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:09 pm**

you wrote:but kyle, you idiot, isn't sig more likely to be mafia, or he at least has a similarly probable chance?

maybe. but I get the feeling from nijuukyugou's posts that she is trying to post the right things to look like how a civvie would look trying to move forward and survive half heartedly

you, again wrote:but kyle! such behaviors are also just regular behavior for how a civvie would act in this sort of situation, it can't be taken as being purely alignment indicative, fuck you kyle, thanks for wasting my valuable time

wow that's actually a pretty good point, thanks for bringing it up, i suppose she is also acting in the way she would if she were authentically disoriented by being flung into this situation like she was, thank you strawman that I made up

still you wrote:so then what makes you think that nijuukyugou's the last wolf?

just a hunch

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:22 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:03 pm I appreciate the gesture, LC. The vote, that is.

I like fun!

And I have no idea how I could possibly be a confirmed Civ. I thought I knew, but not with what you said about the timing.

And I will never vote to lynch dunya, that's ridiculous.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:30 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:22 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:03 pm I appreciate the gesture, LC. The vote, that is.
I like fun!

And I have no idea how I could possibly be a confirmed Civ. I thought I knew, but not with what you said about the timing.

Huh. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it was just coincidence.

If so, I'll go back after the game and frame the post that made me think that.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:35 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:22 amAnd I will never vote to lynch dunya, that's ridiculous.

who's talking about lynching dunya

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:43 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:35 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:22 amAnd I will never vote to lynch dunya, that's ridiculous.
who's talking about lynching dunya

Well, like, the stuff that resulted in dunya goin':

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:43 pmsorry, I just found it hilarious Kyle and DDL were still hypothesizing me as scum. Like, come on.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:30 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:22 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:03 pm I appreciate the gesture, LC. The vote, that is.
I like fun!

And I have no idea how I could possibly be a confirmed Civ. I thought I knew, but not with what you said about the timing.
Huh. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it was just coincidence. If so, I'll go back after the game and frame the post that made me think that.

It was something I posted? I bet I know what it was. Do you presume to know my role then? Yes or no will satisfy me.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:54 am**

we're not seriously talking about lynching dunya

just positing about how it's *technically* possible for dunya to be mafia in specific circumstances that would mean that Dunya is basically a cool badass trickster.

realistically dunya is probably like #3 on the list of people least likely to be mafia

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:29 am**

NOPE

Sig has been lynched. He was...

Spoiler: show

It is now Night 9. You have until 21:00 MST to send in your night actions.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:41 am**

Well ding dang diddly crap on a crabcake.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:44 am**

"Night 9"

:\

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:46 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:09 pm
you wrote:but kyle, you idiot, isn't sig more likely to be mafia, or he at least has a similarly probable chance?
maybe. but I get the feeling from nijuukyugou's posts that she is trying to post the right things to look like how a civvie would look trying to move forward and survive half heartedly

you, again wrote:but kyle! such behaviors are also just regular behavior for how a civvie would act in this sort of situation, it can't be taken as being purely alignment indicative, fuck you kyle, thanks for wasting my valuable time
wow that's actually a pretty good point, thanks for bringing it up, i suppose she is also acting in the way she would if she were authentically disoriented by being flung into this situation like she was, thank you strawman that I made up

still you wrote:so then what makes you think that nijuukyugou's the last wolf?
just a hunch

Why didn't you vote for her then? I've been begging for it. Speed and Long would have been up for a nijuu lynch too.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:21 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:46 amWhy didn't you vote for her then? I've been begging for it. Speed and Long would have been up for a nijuu lynch too.

I had my vote on her for a few hours but it didn't seem like there was the momentum to make it happen.

Also, I was kinda hoping the game would be over after we lynched sig.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:30 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:43 pm lmao @ nutella.

sorry, I just found it hilarious Kyle and DDL were still hypothesizing me as scum. Like, come on.

Day 9 and you want me not to hypothese someone?

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:31 am**

If I get to lylo I'm considering both my lylo partners as potential baddies, no matter who they are.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:32 am**

I mean, what do you want me to do if lylo is actually me vs dunya vs nutella? Vote myself because the oher two are supposed to be "confirmed"?

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:39 am**

That's exactly what I want you to do.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:26 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:00 pm is speed Pico de Orizaba? but like, we won't be able to get sig or maybe nijuu to vote for you so who are you gonna take out with you? I'm not gonna test that theory.

If he is Oziraba then our best move is let him live to lylo so if we mislynch him we still have a 50% chance of winning.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:29 am**

Right now I'm torn on whether Speed is a jester, or mafia doing a wifom thing.

I don't buy the Orizaba thing because I don't see how getting an extra kill now is useful to town.

Though he could be the civ role with secrets.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:36 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:02 pm I've never played with a jester. What does the jester role involve? are they self aligned or town-aligned?

Independent.

Wins the game if they are lynched.

Loses if they are night killed.

Loses if they are alive when the game ends.

Usually lacks any further abilities. Very easy to win as if its existance is unknown. Moderately easy to win as if it's known.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:38 am**

I'm probably willing to lynch him even if he's a jester because I don't like the idea of having a second non-civ alive at lylo.

He self votes and it's game over.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:40 am**

Though more savvy hosts tend to add punishments to town if they lynch jesters. This is particulary evil in a closed setup with a hidden jester though, not sure if marmot would be that mean.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:46 am**

Wait when did Matterhorn's secrets get revealed?

And why?

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:47 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:47 pm Matterhorn:

Matterhorn, Italy/Switzerland (4,478 m) - Matterhorn is known less for its height, and more for its almost perfect pyramidal shape, with 4 ridges rising up to an obvious peak. It is still one of the highest peaks in the European Alps. --- Secrets --- If you manage to finish four separate day periods with 0 votes, you will become immune to all active night actions for the rest of the game.

The stuff in red was not there when the game started.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:55 am**

Ok people this is the deal. Lynch Speed now or lynch speed later. But whatever you do don't leave to lynch Speed at Final 3.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:00 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:06 pm I know but theorizing and confirming 100% role alignments of other players is not very good right now.

Debatable. If Golden was here he's have already have 100% confirmed almost all players. Some people are good with that (spoiler: I suck).

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:09 am**

Ok caught up.

Recipe for the rest of the game:

- Flip a coin.
- If heads lynch Blooper then Speed.
- If tails lynch Speed then Blooper.
- If they are both dead and the game is not over yet then wlecome to lylo. Engage full tinfoil mode and start ISOing everyone.

Do not let Speed live past Day 11 even if you think he is 3P. Do not give him the chance to side with the last mafia on Day 12. He is a jester? Give him the win, he earned it.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:14 am**

Actually I'm stupid. I forgot the last mafia can reduce its own vote. We may not have a Day 12. Or Day 12 may be random.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:28 am**

I believe Matterhorn must have died.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:43 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:43 am It was something I posted? I bet I know what it was. Do you presume to know my role then? Yes or no will satisfy me.

Yes.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:46 am**

Game's not over. Cool. If scum is around and STILL doesn't nightkill tonight Imma have a hissy fit.

DDL is smart.

I am not Pico de Gallo or whatever. If I had any sense of personal glory, I'd have stayed out of this.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:58 am**

If we lynch Blooper/Speed today and don't win we have a problem.

I'd say lynch Blooper first because Speed is likely a jester since it solves the mystery of the Martian. Problem is that he might be bullshitting us. if so this is one of the best gambits in the history of Syndicate.

If Blooper flips civ we have a problem though. Matterhorn's role ruins things. We might have to guess the final scum on Day 11.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:59 am**

Also this is the time to tinfoil about anyone other than Blooper being bad.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:16 am**

EBWOP: Sutter Buttes, not Matterhorn

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:05 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:28 am I believe Matterhorn must have died.

Or it was added after Matterhorn satisfied their condition.

Would explain last night's no kill. It's possible nijuu targeted Matterhorn.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:23 pm**

I deleted two posts from an incorrect account.

Posted: **Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:24 pm**

nijuu... or anyone.

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