The Syndicate

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:18 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:15 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:14 pm tim should die tomorrow in one way or another btw btw

okay you i am willing to hear out. please explain why.

I'll explain if I'm still alive tomorrow and my ITA shot fails

I think you should make as much clear as you can in case you die before then.

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:23 pm punchy villa lol

So why was Maple clearing him?

not convinced logic is town btw

esp because i just randomly opened a tab i had open and saw nutella agreeing with awesome that logic towny

though lolnutellaspew she definitely TMIs a bunch so its not a rock solid case on its own

he requires a bit more scrutiny in any case though

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:24 pm

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:23 pm punchy villa lol

So why was Maple clearing him?

because even if maples a powerwolf, powerwolves dont necessarily 100% get every relevant read wrong

tim you understand that if maple is a wolf he didnt just paste his entire wolfteam in thread and call them a towncore right

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:18 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:15 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:14 pm tim should die tomorrow in one way or another btw btw

okay you i am willing to hear out. please explain why.

I'll explain if I'm still alive tomorrow and my ITA shot fails

I'm sure ITA time will be lively. The problem I had with the scum-leaning nature of ITA is just the TMI. Scum know who's not scum, so that can slaughter villagers with 100% accuracy. Villagers also hit villagers, which benefits the scum team, and gives them somewhere to hide. What scum team could possibly pass up the opportunity to get some free kills that they will barely be suspected for because hey, it's a party!

like i'd think that maple was more of a long term plan than call all wolves villagers until flips out him in a few days

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:21 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:19 pm i want tim solved before me ideally

my death in the night would be bad please don't

TBH Punchy no one should care what you want, not even you. The only thing you have ever had going for you in this game was Maple saying you weren't a wolf, and Maple is a wolf.

no

i'm town

i've been so fucking towny

ita's are immensely protown if town is organized and efficient with them

set up some sort of a consensus group of 3-4 good shots

even if its constituents are villagers, it's poe and protown for them to die

someone shooting directly against consensus and hitting villa in a way that ends up benefiting scum should in most cases eat death

i, too, have been so fucking towny

nah i stan hero shooters

anni needed hero shooters and we mightve won if insomnia's on ara or xander's on amrock hit


though im not sure this is a gamestate that needs hero shooters


just as a generality; sticking to lists isnt necessarily the best and im not gonna be part of the chorus of "omg why would you hero shoot" kneejerkers ever

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:30 pm no

i'm town

i've been so fucking towny

hmmm Idk Punchy you repeat that a lot. And I'm not seeing this Tim/Punchy must die because is the best for town, so I would rather not kill any of you, but I can't control other players so help me here.

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:25 pm not convinced logic is town btw

esp because i just randomly opened a tab i had open and saw nutella agreeing with awesome that logic towny

though lolnutellaspew she definitely TMIs a bunch so its not a rock solid case on its own

he requires a bit more scrutiny in any case though

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:34 pm nah i stan hero shooters

anni needed hero shooters and we mightve won if insomnia's on ara or xander's on amrock hit


though im not sure this is a gamestate that needs hero shooters


just as a generality; sticking to lists isnt necessarily the best and im not gonna be part of the chorus of "omg why would you hero shoot" kneejerkers ever

Agreed. The absolute worst shots are the kneejerks. Hero shots, at least, can sometimes yolo bag wolves if someone has a strong individual read on a player.

i, too, have been so fucking towny

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:17 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:56 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:39 pm tim and punchy both can't not be wolves

one is one and the other is other.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:42 pm but tim and punchy can both be towns

SkepticalFry.jpg

so you think they both can be mafia?

I think one is wolf and one is town or both are town. I think punchy could be 3rd party/independent.

I think that tim is town. if they are mafia that is WIM.

I thought my reads been complete trash but they are not. on a side note one time I googled Daisy and I saw there is a type of toilet paper. toilet paper is still useful so

if you think they r both wolves then I need you to explain why tim is scum.

Jack doesn't think I am, he just knows that I could be. I genuinely cannot be cleared on WIM and he has seen it first hand. What I am doing here is exactly how I'd be playing as a caught wolf, and I can't fix that.

That clear list from Maple is just an immutable fact. I'm not woe is me about dying, I just know that for my arguments to have any weight I have to be trusted, and being cleared that way by a wolf I cannot ever really be trusted until I'm flipped. Jack is telling people to sheep my reads and eventually someone is going to tell him flat out that he is insane because I clearly look like I am in on this with Maple.

There's a Juliet post with final votes. If you find that and get the people who were voting nutella repost my list with those people green and noted as nutella voters. If you are on phone just @ those people and have one of them do it.

I'm gonna ISO Tedxtr

All the strong reads you put out are consensus.

I’m not even giving you credit for them. I’m saying it’s a good starting point for people in catchup mode.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:17 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:56 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:39 pm tim and punchy both can't not be wolves

one is one and the other is other.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:42 pm but tim and punchy can both be towns

SkepticalFry.jpg

so you think they both can be mafia?

I think one is wolf and one is town or both are town. I think punchy could be 3rd party/independent.

I think that tim is town. if they are mafia that is WIM.

I thought my reads been complete trash but they are not. on a side note one time I googled Daisy and I saw there is a type of toilet paper. toilet paper is still useful so

if you think they r both wolves then I need you to explain why tim is scum.

Jack doesn't think I am, he just knows that I could be. I genuinely cannot be cleared on WIM and he has seen it first hand. What I am doing here is exactly how I'd be playing as a caught wolf, and I can't fix that.

That clear list from Maple is just an immutable fact. I'm not woe is me about dying, I just know that for my arguments to have any weight I have to be trusted, and being cleared that way by a wolf I cannot ever really be trusted until I'm flipped. Jack is telling people to sheep my reads and eventually someone is going to tell him flat out that he is insane because I clearly look like I am in on this with Maple.

There's a Juliet post with final votes. If you find that and get the people who were voting nutella repost my list with those people green and noted as nutella voters. If you are on phone just @ those people and have one of them do it.

I'm gonna ISO Tedxtr

All the strong reads you put out are consensus.

I’m not even giving you credit for them. I’m saying it’s a good starting point for people in catchup mode.

is there anything to the jpic sus that isnt "omg why would you shoot tsp" though

why do we townread long con

was he on xalt?

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:27 pm tim you understand that if maple is a wolf he didnt just paste his entire wolfteam in thread and call them a towncore right

Yeah I also understand that there are SOME wolves on that list but thanks for thinking I'm just stupid.

Meanwhile...Tedexter to me seems pretty town, with being a Maple clear the solid strike against him. His reads are absolute shit, but probably genuine. Anyone who decides they've hit enough wolves on the clear list before they get to him, fine.

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:40 pm why do we townread long con

was he on xalt?

yes, though hes a busser

though i townread his d0 in the moment too

having played 3 games with him this is the towniest of the 3 hes been imo (1st game he was bussing mafia who i caught from being underwhelming post-bus, 2nd game he was a 3p)

though i mean there was that weird sudden wolfread of something that wasnt that wolfy in d0

couldve been real idk

i wouldnt personally go long con in this next cycle

is it bad that the highest town whose reads i trust is hyena

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:42 pm is it bad that the highest town whose reads i trust is hyena

what are the reads that you trust from him

i do think hes town

i am top town

and iaafr what's your thoughts on apogee

wolfy?

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:43 pm i am top town

urge to kill you increasing again

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:43 pm

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:43 pm i am top town

urge to kill you increasing again

no

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:43 pm and iaafr what's your thoughts on apogee

wolfy?

nah ive had him constantly at townlean and his post about there being high kp felt more like pure town guesswork than TMI

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:44 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:43 pm and iaafr what's your thoughts on apogee

wolfy?

nah ive had him constantly at townlean and his post about there being high kp felt more like pure town guesswork than TMI

nah that's completely nai

ofc there's going to be high kp in a game with 3 ita sessions

apogee is sub null for me

relative to my recent experiences with him he's pretty low impact and not at all villagery despite having so many posts

his scumreads have also been kinda boring idk

tbf i dont have any real wolfreads beyond "lacking" either right now

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:40 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:40 pm why do we townread long con

was he on xalt?

yes, though hes a busser

though i townread his d0 in the moment too

having played 3 games with him this is the towniest of the 3 hes been imo (1st game he was bussing mafia who i caught from being underwhelming post-bus, 2nd game he was a 3p)

He can be a busser, but he wouldn't have been bussing Xalt unless there was NO WAY for Xalt to go over...and the vote wasn't that big a split. I give the Xalt wagon higher clearance than the Nutella wagon, but I'm doubting there were bussers there either.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:45 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:40 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:40 pm why do we townread long con

was he on xalt?

yes, though hes a busser

though i townread his d0 in the moment too

having played 3 games with him this is the towniest of the 3 hes been imo (1st game he was bussing mafia who i caught from being underwhelming post-bus, 2nd game he was a 3p)

He can be a busser, but he wouldn't have been bussing Xalt unless there was NO WAY for Xalt to go over...and the vote wasn't that big a split. I give the Xalt wagon higher clearance than the Nutella wagon, but I'm doubting there were bussers there either.

the xalt wagon was full of parked votes with no talk of xalt actually getting executed

i mean you can call it NAI but my impression is that it felt more like a thought that came from town than a scum who thinks to post that in that moment

we'll see i guess

i know for a fact apogee likes to townslip as scum (he derped number of scum in a custom turbo recently) but that didnt seem like one of those

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:45 pm apogee is sub null for me

relative to my recent experiences with him he's pretty low impact and not at all villagery despite having so many posts

his scumreads have also been kinda boring idk

tbf i dont have any real wolfreads beyond "lacking" either right now

i guess this is a valid take

my apogee take could be wrong

not discounting that his underwhelmingness is related to game environment here though

anyone have a beeboy read?

isoing now

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:46 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:45 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:40 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:40 pm why do we townread long con

was he on xalt?

yes, though hes a busser

though i townread his d0 in the moment too

having played 3 games with him this is the towniest of the 3 hes been imo (1st game he was bussing mafia who i caught from being underwhelming post-bus, 2nd game he was a 3p)

He can be a busser, but he wouldn't have been bussing Xalt unless there was NO WAY for Xalt to go over...and the vote wasn't that big a split. I give the Xalt wagon higher clearance than the Nutella wagon, but I'm doubting there were bussers there either.

the xalt wagon was full of parked votes with no talk of xalt actually getting executed

Your consistency in disputing literally everything I say no matter how much obvious sense it makes is not helping your cause.

i was going to flip on awesome, but his thinking that he should be clealry villa by meta here is probably v indicative given his mild lack of confidence in his wolfgame i think

beeboy gth town

toocasualtobescum

iso felt not wolfy (not towny though) but the ita role thing could have been tmi

beeboy has a scumtell involving the usage of exclamation points, of which he may or may not be fully aware of

he is yet to exhibit it in this game

thus creary he must be a villager

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:28 pm like i'd think that maple was more of a long term plan than call all wolves villagers until flips out him in a few days

I mean, specifically keeping Xalt and Nutella (and Maple)’s roles alive long enough to do what they do is enough reason to make that play.

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:48 pm i was going to flip on awesome, but his thinking that he should be clealry villa by meta here is probably v indicative given his mild lack of confidence in his wolfgame i think

Awesome SHOT Xalt. Even if you don't wanna clear Xalt voters I think that's pretty telling.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:47 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:46 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:45 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:40 pm

PunchyTheCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:40 pm why do we townread long con

was he on xalt?

yes, though hes a busser

though i townread his d0 in the moment too

having played 3 games with him this is the towniest of the 3 hes been imo (1st game he was bussing mafia who i caught from being underwhelming post-bus, 2nd game he was a 3p)

He can be a busser, but he wouldn't have been bussing Xalt unless there was NO WAY for Xalt to go over...and the vote wasn't that big a split. I give the Xalt wagon higher clearance than the Nutella wagon, but I'm doubting there were bussers there either.

the xalt wagon was full of parked votes with no talk of xalt actually getting executed

Your consistency in disputing literally everything I say no matter how much obvious sense it makes is not helping your cause.

xalt wagon was NOT going over

there were 4 votes there all day

that was not actually going to happen as an elimination

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:49 pm

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:28 pm like i'd think that maple was more of a long term plan than call all wolves villagers until flips out him in a few days

I mean, specifically keeping Xalt and Nutella (and Maple)’s roles alive long enough to do what they do is enough reason to make that play.

well yeah but the context of that post was responding tim's "punchy is likely scum due to maplespew" take

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:49 pm

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:48 pm i was going to flip on awesome, but his thinking that he should be clealry villa by meta here is probably v indicative given his mild lack of confidence in his wolfgame i think

Awesome SHOT Xalt. Even if you don't wanna clear Xalt voters I think that's pretty telling.

thanks chief

anyone got cliffs or soomething

tim's take on maplespew is ~fair enough but iaafr's is the correct one

also minor thing but maple putting iaafr and ace on the veto list after i asked him to is very mildly villagery for both of them

Apogee idk
AWESOM-O town
beeboy scum lean
cayvie idk
ColinIsCool idk
colonialbob town
DaisyCloud Town supreme
DDL idk
DrWilgy idk but gut feeling Scumish
Ephemeral needs to be solved
Epignosis idk
Hyena town and super nice player
iaafr town
iwan town
Jackofhearts2005
Justplayingitcool
Logic can go either way but townish
Long Con idk
Maple need to be resolve, Maple's read took the game
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME The mighty stump
Poison Chan town?
PunchyTheCat YOU ARE TOWN STOP YOUR NON SENSE
sabie12 no opinion
sheepsaysmeep idk Scumish
Shizune idk who this person is
speedchuck town
Sprityo idk but I'm scared of this pr
tedxtr town
TenThousandCalories gut feeling scum
ThisIsNotAceMarvel LSP
Timsup2nothin YOU ARE TOWN STOP YOUR NON SENSE
Urist idk
WerewolfHunter idk

Making one of this list, is super lame, but not as lame as yours.

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:49 pm

sheepsaysmeep wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:28 pm like i'd think that maple was more of a long term plan than call all wolves villagers until flips out him in a few days

I mean, specifically keeping Xalt and Nutella (and Maple)’s roles alive long enough to do what they do is enough reason to make that play.

well yeah but the context of that post was responding tim's "punchy is likely scum due to maplespew" take

I actually think Punchy is just likely scum and the only thing that ever made me think otherwise was Maple saying he wasn't during a period when I considered Maple a greencheck. As soon as that greencheck disintegrated the first thing I did after voting Maple was vote Punchy.

ThisIsNotAceMarvel wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:52 pm sheepsaysmeep idk Scumish

wait this is illegal i disallow it