The Syndicate

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:03 am I just target someone and it makes sure no vote manipulation happens the next day on me or anybody that votes that person.

That’s why I said to Tim “I hope my action went through as well “

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:02 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:57 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:56 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:51 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:47 am RIP me. Looks like I'm the chop, but I suppose that's how poe goes.

Based on my role, I would advise that I could prove my alignment over time, but I get it if we think chopping me over another would clear the game faster.

Pending the outcomes of some things there are some others I wouldn't be averse to chopping first Wilgy. Having an outed town tracker in the game will allow us to night role plan and that will basically give us auto now and yes you'd get outed if you were a liar at some point so you aren't exactly a necessary chop because you should self resolve.

Whatever you think boss. Wasn't planning on falling off the face of the earth mid day 1, so my grasp is nonexistent atm.

I'll trust yours and Tutuu's judgement. I can start doing ISO's tomorrow afternoon to get back into the game. Things should settle for me then.

You are aware of all the claims and the current POE yeah?

Not really.

Alison Cop
Jules Doc

And Tim's advice that I need to reread from yesterday.

The game has probably evolved since then though.

1. Alison - Straight cop that mafia discover who they targeted - N1 targeted TSP and got delayed (stuck in a lift) got result n2 (town), targeted Nook n2 (town)
2. TonyStarkPrime (Replaced ColinIsCool Night 1) - Claims 1 shot vigilante, x shot doctor. Targeted Hally (fail), targeted JPIC (hit?)
3. DrWilgy - Tracker if he votes on mafia, randomised receives the amount of players who target someone if votes on town
4. dyachei - Also a tracker
5. Dyslexicon - No claim
6. juliets (Replaced Fallen Prince Day 1) - X shot protection from non lethal non town actions - Targeted Alison n1, holstered n2
8. Herm - Song cop (looks through album names to see if there are scum on the album)
10. Long Con - Three times during game can target a player to stop them voting for him (but he also can't vote them)
11. MacDougall - Banned from claiming
12. Master Radishes - Claimed to be able to use dead PR, targeted Alison n1 with Nutella's doctor
13. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Targets potential NKs to get an extra vote. Targeted Mac n1 and didn't get a vote. Has a cop clear.
14. Oddmerta - No claim but has softed a bit (vig, cop)
15. Poison Chan - No explicit claim but outed the mafia has a rolecop named nude and also outed that "Radishes is lying"
16. Samusamu - No claim
18. staypositivefriend - Banned from claiming
19. tedxtr - Claimed to have night kills, no confirmation on actions
20. Timsup2nothin - Claims to have role that modifies depending on the balance of the game
21. tutuu - Doctor that also delays night actions for a day

Current POE is:

Wilgy, Dyslexicon, LC, Samu, Tedxtr, Tim

I think Tim is pretty obviously town. A lot of people think Herm is obviously town. There are some people tinfoiling Oddmerta still (myself, SPF namely). Oddmerta is STILL tunneling Tim.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:06 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:02 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:57 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:56 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:51 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 3:47 am RIP me. Looks like I'm the chop, but I suppose that's how poe goes.

Based on my role, I would advise that I could prove my alignment over time, but I get it if we think chopping me over another would clear the game faster.

Pending the outcomes of some things there are some others I wouldn't be averse to chopping first Wilgy. Having an outed town tracker in the game will allow us to night role plan and that will basically give us auto now and yes you'd get outed if you were a liar at some point so you aren't exactly a necessary chop because you should self resolve.

Whatever you think boss. Wasn't planning on falling off the face of the earth mid day 1, so my grasp is nonexistent atm.

I'll trust yours and Tutuu's judgement. I can start doing ISO's tomorrow afternoon to get back into the game. Things should settle for me then.

You are aware of all the claims and the current POE yeah?

Not really.

Alison Cop
Jules Doc

And Tim's advice that I need to reread from yesterday.

The game has probably evolved since then though.

1. Alison - Straight cop that mafia discover who they targeted - N1 targeted TSP and got delayed (stuck in a lift) got result n2 (town), targeted Nook n2 (town)
2. TonyStarkPrime (Replaced ColinIsCool Night 1) - Claims 1 shot vigilante, x shot doctor. Targeted Hally (fail), targeted JPIC (hit?)
3. DrWilgy - Tracker if he votes on mafia, randomised receives the amount of players who target someone if votes on town
4. dyachei - Also a tracker
5. Dyslexicon - No claim
6. juliets (Replaced Fallen Prince Day 1) - X shot protection from non lethal non town actions - Targeted Alison n1, holstered n2
8. Herm - Song cop (looks through album names to see if there are scum on the album)
10. Long Con - Three times during game can target a player to stop them voting for him (but he also can't vote them)
11. MacDougall - Banned from claiming
12. Master Radishes - Claimed to be able to use dead PR, targeted Alison n1 with Nutella's doctor
13. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Targets potential NKs to get an extra vote. Targeted Mac n1 and didn't get a vote. Has a cop clear.
14. Oddmerta - No claim but has softed a bit (vig, cop)
15. Poison Chan - No explicit claim but outed the mafia has a rolecop named nude and also outed that "Radishes is lying"
16. Samusamu - No claim
18. staypositivefriend - Banned from claiming
19. tedxtr - Claimed to have night kills, no confirmation on actions
20. Timsup2nothin - Claims to have role that modifies depending on the balance of the game
21. tutuu - Doctor that also delays night actions for a day

Current POE is:

Wilgy, Dyslexicon, LC, Samu, Tedxtr, Tim

I think Tim is pretty obviously town. A lot of people think Herm is obviously town. There are some people tinfoiling Oddmerta still (myself, SPF namely). Oddmerta is STILL tunneling Tim.

How am I still in the POE there again?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:06 am Got it. Thanks.

Question, what resolves Poison Chan and MR?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:06 am Got it. Thanks.

Question, what resolves Poison Chan and MR?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:05 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:03 am I just target someone and it makes sure no vote manipulation happens the next day on me or anybody that votes that person.

That’s why I said to Tim “I hope my action went through as well “

Can we somehow make a plan for Long Con and tedxtr to confirm/out each other

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:06 am Got it. Thanks.

Question, what resolves Poison Chan and MR?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:08 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:05 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:03 am I just target someone and it makes sure no vote manipulation happens the next day on me or anybody that votes that person.

That’s why I said to Tim “I hope my action went through as well “

Can we somehow make a plan for Long Con and tedxtr to confirm/out each other

Long Con's role isn't really vote manipulation it's vote prevention. Manipulation implies that a vote can be publicly or secretly coerced or secret votes can be applied or something.

What was it that someone was saying about someone secretly voting before?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:08 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:05 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:03 am I just target someone and it makes sure no vote manipulation happens the next day on me or anybody that votes that person.

That’s why I said to Tim “I hope my action went through as well “

Can we somehow make a plan for Long Con and tedxtr to confirm/out each other

Long Con's role isn't really vote manipulation it's vote prevention. Manipulation implies that a vote can be publicly or secretly coerced or secret votes can be applied or something.

What was it that someone was saying about someone secretly voting before?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:08 am Ted prevents vote manipulation and Long Con is a vote manipulator

Can we somehow test them. But i forgot his claim

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:08 am Ted prevents vote manipulation and Long Con is a vote manipulator

Can we somehow test them. But i forgot his claim

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:09 am Excellent. Thanks.

Dizzy's slank.

We talking normal Dizzy slank or is there a reason I was the cut before them?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:09 am Excellent. Thanks.

Dizzy's slank.

We talking normal Dizzy slank or is there a reason I was the cut before them?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:08 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:05 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:03 am I just target someone and it makes sure no vote manipulation happens the next day on me or anybody that votes that person.

That’s why I said to Tim “I hope my action went through as well “

Can we somehow make a plan for Long Con and tedxtr to confirm/out each other

Long Con's role isn't really vote manipulation it's vote prevention. Manipulation implies that a vote can be publicly or secretly coerced or secret votes can be applied or something.

What was it that someone was saying about someone secretly voting before?

That be me...I get a double vote today.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:07 am Although that’s a shit ability that confirms me as town 99% of the time

Unless you think I’m an evil mastermind and came up with this shit on the spot I guess

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:12 am Should we be reading every player who is banned from infoclaiming as town until we have reason to doubt them?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:12 am Should we be reading every player who is banned from infoclaiming as town until we have reason to doubt them?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:14 am Will u also get a double vote tomorrow tim?

Nanook can also get double votes

I wonder if we should somebow try to use this with LC and Ted, see if theyre lying

Calculate the wagons so that outcome A happens if theyre telling the truth or outcome B if theyre lying?

Like precissly calculate our wagon numbers for the yeet

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:13 am Tedxtr can you explain your role one more time and also your n1 and n2 actions please?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:15 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:12 am Should we be reading every player who is banned from infoclaiming as town until we have reason to doubt them?

No because somewhere there is a mafia role cop and they are saying SOMETHING unless they are in the two that haven't claimed yet...and "oh, can't talk" is what they are likely saying.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:16 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:15 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:12 am Should we be reading every player who is banned from infoclaiming as town until we have reason to doubt them?

No because somewhere there is a mafia role cop and they are saying SOMETHING unless they are in the two that haven't claimed yet...and "oh, can't talk" is what they are likely saying.

So is it SPF or Oddmerta then?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:17 am Ok so Nook and Tim both got double votes from their own roles.

And Ted is a player who actively works against that.

And Nanook is cleared by the cop.

So isn't there just likely a wolf between Ted and Tim here?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:18 am What's the feel for Samu?

They seemed rather obsessed with me during the Spriyo yeet in my skim.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:17 am Ok so Nook and Tim both got double votes from their own roles.

And Ted is a player who actively works against that.

And Nanook is cleared by the cop.

So isn't there just likely a wolf between Ted and Tim here?

As much as I’d like to say “I’ve been screaming about Tim since D1” I don’t see how this logic makes sense

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:16 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:13 am Tedxtr can you explain your role one more time and also your n1 and n2 actions please?

I choose someone. Any votes cast by and against my target are worth exactly 1, so I get rid of vote manipulation on that person.

N1 tim which I’ve softed pretty obviously

N2 Nanook because I thought you’d let jpic live and I assumed we wouldn’t be yeeting them either way

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:19 am @tedxtr if you target player A at night

And tomorrow player A is a double voter

And EoD wagon numbers are 6 ppl on player C and 6 ppl on player D

And Player A is on C's wagon

Does that mean wagon C is always the yeet (u didnt prevent double voting) or its 50/50 between C and D?

If u arent sure can u ask for clarification?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:19 am Tim isn’t claiming the same role as nanook, tim’s basically claiming that his actions change every night or he unlocks more as people die

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:18 am Tim what is the list of your powers that you acquire and at what points?