King of the Hill Mafia

[arogame123]

do we have anything to gain by waiting for 24 hours?

You want to see the info you can get from wagon logic potentially and how people react from the cross.

[RondoDimBuckle]

But also, weren't you on me about the previous EoD "For not convincing one to vote their sr"? Lmfao

I wasnt trying to convince Porcha to not vote their scum read, I was asking her if there was no world SPF could be scum and if there could be to join me.

No, that's not my point tho. You had a sr on SPF and you tried to convince Porscha but not me. You explained with the power thing, but you could clearly see I was tryiing to evaluate all possible options/info before I casted my vote.

And now imagine, people come into today saying, "Man, I wish I voted SPF because Seanzie seemed townie" When I was literally asking everyone's opinions is like a WTF?

I didnt need to convince you, I needed to convince Porscha, I didnt, SPF lived, you voted Seanzie like I predicted. You have not listened to me once this game why would I believe you would listen to me yesterday?

We've had basically almost the same perspective since when you came in, but you have constantly shaded me for it, and every time I made a read, you'd agree but then point the finger at me, and it's so weird to me, cause if we both have the read, why are u pointing the finger at me, if I am wrong on it.

There hasn't really been a time where you discussed with me about your own opinion, and I was asking it from you yesterday but you didn't you mentioned you didn't want to convince me. Like what am I supposed to think if you are town Rondo?

That we havent played together before so our different styles do not match and we are unfamiliar with each other so its bound to create opportunities for miscommunication. I shade everyone. Constantly because I open my mind to several worlds at once. I dont see it as shade personally but other people do. I might have been 'shading' you but did I ever actually push you as a legitimate lynch target? You might not like that I erode your town cred sure but it doesnt mean I am wolf for not taking it as gospel that you are town because other people say so.

See but that's the thing is we do seem to have different styles and everytime I made a point, I'd feel that you'd agree but also discredit it at the same time and try to make me look bad if it is wrong and that's what felt scummy and eerie of you esp with ur treatment of me. Like, idrc if you scum read me or not. I am used to people sr me and I can actually find people townie in the process, but the issue I have is I felt like you were trying to make me look bad while hiding behind me when agreeing with my reads and it puts me the wrong way.

And like even yesterday, you say I have disagreed with u but we haven't had much disagreement this game lmfao, so when I tried to reach out to you yesterday to get ur pov on SPF vs Seanzie and reject me, and you sr me when I wasn't "pushing who I was voting" it puts me off tbh. And I have made that clear.

But the thing is, it does seem like you are trying to tr me and fine me, and stating that since "I am sr you, that you would vote me anyways to save the game." That would just end the game if you are town. So in the world where you are town, who do u believe the team is?

well I am trying to make you look bad, in case you are the deep wolf. But at this point I am trying to decide if SPF/You decide to include you in a Rondo/You team to try and wifom you town but the argument is so bad... GTH right now. Town. Tomorrow no fucking clue

[Lilypetal]

do we have anything to gain by waiting for 24 hours?

are u trying to rush the vote because you think that if you wait any longer then you'll doubt yourself? lol

doubt? no more of that the vibe of the thread seems like everyone has their minds mostly made up at least abt you dying

[Lilypetal]

esooa told me lylo was easy

she lied

You've been in LyLo before.

twice

once as a new player so i fumbled it and once where i got snapvoted within 10 minutes

so my lylo experience is not very good lol this is the longest one i've been in already

and highest stakes personally

yea, I was with u in ur first one lol.

i am aware u bastard

[RondoDimBuckle]

@staypositivefriend

so if u had to vote rn which of them would you vote

honestly? probably rondo. you're probably going to use that as evidence that me/aro are mafia together but in reality i just feel slightly more confident about rondo being mafia and i think there's a higher chance that i'm misreading aro between the two of them

Thank you so much for this post. I was worried you might be town but now I am content.

[Lilypetal]

i mean u can vote me and end the game rn lily if ur that impatient. if this game is just a foregone loss i would rather just end it now instead of putting effort into something that you wont attempt to consider

why are u acting like that

[Lilypetal]

do we have anything to gain by waiting for 24 hours?

You want to see the info you can get from wagon logic potentially and how people react from the cross.

i see, but doesn't that just happen when the votes begin?

[staypositivefriend]

@staypositivefriend

so if u had to vote rn which of them would you vote

honestly? probably rondo. you're probably going to use that as evidence that me/aro are mafia together but in reality i just feel slightly more confident about rondo being mafia and i think there's a higher chance that i'm misreading aro between the two of them

Thank you so much for this post. I was worried you might be town but now I am content.

then vote me if ur not a coward

[staypositivefriend]

i mean u can vote me and end the game rn lily if ur that impatient. if this game is just a foregone loss i would rather just end it now instead of putting effort into something that you wont attempt to consider

why are u acting like that

you would be doing the same thing if you were in my position

[RondoDimBuckle]

I wasnt trying to convince Porcha to not vote their scum read, I was asking her if there was no world SPF could be scum and if there could be to join me.

No, that's not my point tho. You had a sr on SPF and you tried to convince Porscha but not me. You explained with the power thing, but you could clearly see I was tryiing to evaluate all possible options/info before I casted my vote.

And now imagine, people come into today saying, "Man, I wish I voted SPF because Seanzie seemed townie" When I was literally asking everyone's opinions is like a WTF?

I didnt need to convince you, I needed to convince Porscha, I didnt, SPF lived, you voted Seanzie like I predicted. You have not listened to me once this game why would I believe you would listen to me yesterday?

We've had basically almost the same perspective since when you came in, but you have constantly shaded me for it, and every time I made a read, you'd agree but then point the finger at me, and it's so weird to me, cause if we both have the read, why are u pointing the finger at me, if I am wrong on it.

There hasn't really been a time where you discussed with me about your own opinion, and I was asking it from you yesterday but you didn't you mentioned you didn't want to convince me. Like what am I supposed to think if you are town Rondo?

That we havent played together before so our different styles do not match and we are unfamiliar with each other so its bound to create opportunities for miscommunication. I shade everyone. Constantly because I open my mind to several worlds at once. I dont see it as shade personally but other people do. I might have been 'shading' you but did I ever actually push you as a legitimate lynch target? You might not like that I erode your town cred sure but it doesnt mean I am wolf for not taking it as gospel that you are town because other people say so.

See but that's the thing is we do seem to have different styles and everytime I made a point, I'd feel that you'd agree but also discredit it at the same time and try to make me look bad if it is wrong and that's what felt scummy and eerie of you esp with ur treatment of me. Like, idrc if you scum read me or not. I am used to people sr me and I can actually find people townie in the process, but the issue I have is I felt like you were trying to make me look bad while hiding behind me when agreeing with my reads and it puts me the wrong way.

And like even yesterday, you say I have disagreed with u but we haven't had much disagreement this game lmfao, so when I tried to reach out to you yesterday to get ur pov on SPF vs Seanzie and reject me, and you sr me when I wasn't "pushing who I was voting" it puts me off tbh. And I have made that clear.

But the thing is, it does seem like you are trying to tr me and fine me, and stating that since "I am sr you, that you would vote me anyways to save the game." That would just end the game if you are town. So in the world where you are town, who do u believe the team is?

well I am trying to make you look bad, in case you are the deep wolf. But at this point I am trying to decide if SPF/You decide to include you in a Rondo/You team to try and wifom you town but the argument is so bad... GTH right now. Town. Tomorrow no fucking clue

TBH the reason I was flinging so much shit at you was because I wanted to see who would try and grab it and push you but no one was doing it. I cant tell if its wolves dont think you are a viable target till today when SPF is pushing you or if you are a wolf yourself actually in a good position. But since I have been kept alive its most likely you are town

[staypositivefriend]

i've solved the game so now it's simply a matter of whether people get to the same conclusion in time. my work here is done

[Porscha]

This should have been posted yesterday
1 hour 10 minutes.PNG

if alison wagon isn't pure aro is only wolf on it
spf voting with alison on aro

aro/spf w/w?

?

sorry the postcount didn't get posted for some reason.
alison wagon had 2 remaining alive ppl on it: me and aro
aro wagon had wilgy, spf, alison
rondo did not vote from what I can see

alison knows she's going over since this was day 3
wise to have aro!wolf on her wagon
and alison and spf!wolf votes on aro

no?

[RondoDimBuckle]

if thats the case its SPF/Porscha or SPF/Lily

[Lilypetal]

i mean u can vote me and end the game rn lily if ur that impatient. if this game is just a foregone loss i would rather just end it now instead of putting effort into something that you wont attempt to consider

why are u acting like that

you would be doing the same thing if you were in my position

i would not word things in such an awkward and hostile manner, no

[RondoDimBuckle]

which forces me to vote you to save myself to win the game, if you are town you need to find me

I mean it doesn't save the game if you are town, because I am town, and I don't know what to take of everyone just pairing me with SPF when it's obvious through our interactions and the vote yesterday that it isn't true.

We both agree on SPF, so if you are town, who do you believe is likelier then? Lily or Porscha? I assume you'd be leaning more on Porscha?

Maybe spell it out for me because I dont get what you mean about it unpairing you. Lily had a shitty EOD 1 and Porscha was one of the main wagons so its equal to each other for me. GTH Lily. Porscha is someone I dont mind losing to this game

Ok, so let me discuss about the unpairing again.

When I was going to make my vote EoD, I saw the wagons were 4 SPF v 2 Seanzie.

We know Seanzie flipped town.

If I am mafia with SPF, my vote on Seanzie doesn't have as much meaning since SPF would die anyways and if SPF is mafia, it only makes me look worse for being on the CW.

So if I am mafia with SPF and I see that regardless of my vote that SPF is dying, I always vote on SPF there to not be on the cw and "take some cred."

Also, throughout the entire of the day, SPF was appealing to me, demonstrated a manner of disappointment, and attempted to get me on her side to vote with her on Seanzie. Partners do not appeal to one another in that fashion.

if SPF flips wolf today I think you are clear most likely

[staypositivefriend]

i mean u can vote me and end the game rn lily if ur that impatient. if this game is just a foregone loss i would rather just end it now instead of putting effort into something that you wont attempt to consider

why are u acting like that

you would be doing the same thing if you were in my position

i would not word things in such an awkward and hostile manner, no

i'm not being hostile, just being blunt. i can see where the game is heading so if you are actively trying to rush things then you should be the change you want to see in the world

[RondoDimBuckle]

also just ftr, rondo entered today signaling that he was willing to vote for porscha so if im W here the play is probably always to just try to push on porscha and get rondo to vote her with me, unless i am exactly partnered with porscha

HAHAHAHAH there are 0 worlds where I push Porscha today

[RondoDimBuckle]

tomorrow...

[staypositivefriend]

also just ftr, rondo entered today signaling that he was willing to vote for porscha so if im W here the play is probably always to just try to push on porscha and get rondo to vote her with me, unless i am exactly partnered with porscha

HAHAHAHAH there are 0 worlds where I push Porscha today

yeah i misread ur post

[RondoDimBuckle]

so in short, i think that rondo and aro are the mafia team. it's the only world that makes sense to me right now. i also think that we probably lose the game anyway, but at least i probably solved it at the very last minute

This is outing and I think SPF Is giving a 50% wolf team here at best. if she gets Aro over today and not me then he is either wolf and we go to lylo again but SPF looks great or I go over and she wins. Or she is town and self admitted has been terrible this game and is pushing another town. So again another reason why she is throwing the game and 4th wolfing so if you are town here I dont feel bad if I vote you.

lol vote me then

more outing. we have a voting order and its you first

[arogame123]

I wasnt trying to convince Porcha to not vote their scum read, I was asking her if there was no world SPF could be scum and if there could be to join me.

No, that's not my point tho. You had a sr on SPF and you tried to convince Porscha but not me. You explained with the power thing, but you could clearly see I was tryiing to evaluate all possible options/info before I casted my vote.

And now imagine, people come into today saying, "Man, I wish I voted SPF because Seanzie seemed townie" When I was literally asking everyone's opinions is like a WTF?

I didnt need to convince you, I needed to convince Porscha, I didnt, SPF lived, you voted Seanzie like I predicted. You have not listened to me once this game why would I believe you would listen to me yesterday?

We've had basically almost the same perspective since when you came in, but you have constantly shaded me for it, and every time I made a read, you'd agree but then point the finger at me, and it's so weird to me, cause if we both have the read, why are u pointing the finger at me, if I am wrong on it.

There hasn't really been a time where you discussed with me about your own opinion, and I was asking it from you yesterday but you didn't you mentioned you didn't want to convince me. Like what am I supposed to think if you are town Rondo?

That we havent played together before so our different styles do not match and we are unfamiliar with each other so its bound to create opportunities for miscommunication. I shade everyone. Constantly because I open my mind to several worlds at once. I dont see it as shade personally but other people do. I might have been 'shading' you but did I ever actually push you as a legitimate lynch target? You might not like that I erode your town cred sure but it doesnt mean I am wolf for not taking it as gospel that you are town because other people say so.

See but that's the thing is we do seem to have different styles and everytime I made a point, I'd feel that you'd agree but also discredit it at the same time and try to make me look bad if it is wrong and that's what felt scummy and eerie of you esp with ur treatment of me. Like, idrc if you scum read me or not. I am used to people sr me and I can actually find people townie in the process, but the issue I have is I felt like you were trying to make me look bad while hiding behind me when agreeing with my reads and it puts me the wrong way.

And like even yesterday, you say I have disagreed with u but we haven't had much disagreement this game lmfao, so when I tried to reach out to you yesterday to get ur pov on SPF vs Seanzie and reject me, and you sr me when I wasn't "pushing who I was voting" it puts me off tbh. And I have made that clear.

But the thing is, it does seem like you are trying to tr me and fine me, and stating that since "I am sr you, that you would vote me anyways to save the game." That would just end the game if you are town. So in the world where you are town, who do u believe the team is?

well I am trying to make you look bad, in case you are the deep wolf. But at this point I am trying to decide if SPF/You decide to include you in a Rondo/You team to try and wifom you town but the argument is so bad... GTH right now. Town. Tomorrow no fucking clue

But from ur pov, if I am mafia, I keep u alive lol. But also, everyday of LyLo is a re-eval based on NK and all that so yea. I am waiting for SPF to make their first vote.

Them wanting others to vote them when they believe they already are "confident" in the team is also pretty scummy.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also another thing, I literally challenged SPF's read of Alison on day 3. If you think we are all w/w/w, that is the most bizare thing ever tbh to have two partners debate over a third partner and try to convince them of their read. That's another one I forgot of why me and SPF are never together lmfao.

Also, SPF trying to pair me with Rondo with the way Rondo has treated me and sort of brushed me aside is really bad lol.

yeah I know, Its just pinging my deep wolf radar so hard on you

[RondoDimBuckle]

do we have anything to gain by waiting for 24 hours?

what do we have to gain by rushing things? I think I am getting really good information here today.

[RondoDimBuckle]

This should have been posted yesterday
1 hour 10 minutes.PNG

if alison wagon isn't pure aro is only wolf on it
spf voting with alison on aro

aro/spf w/w?

You are also there

[arogame123]

do we have anything to gain by waiting for 24 hours?

You want to see the info you can get from wagon logic potentially and how people react from the cross.

i see, but doesn't that just happen when the votes begin?

yes, in all phases tho, Pre-voting and during voting.

[RondoDimBuckle]

This should have been posted yesterday
1 hour 10 minutes.PNG

if alison wagon isn't pure aro is only wolf on it
spf voting with alison on aro

aro/spf w/w?

?

sorry the postcount didn't get posted for some reason.
alison wagon had 2 remaining alive ppl on it: me and aro
aro wagon had wilgy, spf, alison
rondo did not vote from what I can see

alison knows she's going over since this was day 3
wise to have aro!wolf on her wagon
and alison and spf!wolf votes on aro

no?

no its before EOD I voted Alison

[arogame123]

This should have been posted yesterday
1 hour 10 minutes.PNG

if alison wagon isn't pure aro is only wolf on it
spf voting with alison on aro

aro/spf w/w?

?

sorry the postcount didn't get posted for some reason.
alison wagon had 2 remaining alive ppl on it: me and aro
aro wagon had wilgy, spf, alison
rondo did not vote from what I can see

alison knows she's going over since this was day 3
wise to have aro!wolf on her wagon
and alison and spf!wolf votes on aro

no?

That's your reasoning for casing me and SPF together? lol

Alison went into anti-spew mode that day and SPF voted on me as a "joke vote" for the drunk thing iirc.

Did you read what I put earlier and the interactions I had with SPF?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am currently on SPF/Porscha

[RondoDimBuckle]

I think that means Lily is town since no one is wanting to push her today

[RondoDimBuckle]

I remember though that Alison said Lily should die for her sins because of her day 1 "tie" and I know that is classic Alison unpartnering. She did her job well making me tinfoil

[RondoDimBuckle]

But the [REDACTED] comment to SPF is more unpartnering so I think I am still on her

[staypositivefriend]

[REDACTED]

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also I am so glad I didnt just sheep my slot and turbo nanook this game

[RondoDimBuckle]

[REDACTED]

so salty, who hurt you?

[arogame123]

I think that means Lily is town since no one is wanting to push her today

Can you talk to me about Lily for a bit?

Cause honestly, this is like procrastinating a school project now that we are finally collaborating and discussing our ideas/world views with each other lmfao.

I do believe your approach towards me in the last hour has been pretty townie and I do feel that you are genially trying to find me. So in the world where you are town and SPF is mafia, she is just going into anti-spew knowing she is going to die and casing 2 towns to not spew anything. I saw yesterday u discussed ur feelings of SPF/Lily being less likely to be w/w because you didn't believe "both players would come in scummy" or something like that. What are the main reasons u tr Lily over Porscha? I just want to understand where ur at and see if maybe I am wrong with my current state.

[staypositivefriend]

[REDACTED]

so salty, who hurt you?

there is no saltiness in that post, ur misreading my tone

[arogame123]

I remember though that Alison said Lily should die for her sins because of her day 1 "tie" and I know that is classic Alison unpartnering. She did her job well making me tinfoil

The biggest thing was the way Lily reacted to Alison's read on lily that felt authentic/genuine to me at the time when I had them mildly unpartnered. That's one thing I remember having in Lily's favor.

[arogame123]

@Porscha What made you go from "lock-town" reading SPF yesterday and trying to push elsewhere, to hard sr her now? What was ur progression/thought process there?

[Porscha]

This should have been posted yesterday
1 hour 10 minutes.PNG

if alison wagon isn't pure aro is only wolf on it
spf voting with alison on aro

aro/spf w/w?

?

sorry the postcount didn't get posted for some reason.
alison wagon had 2 remaining alive ppl on it: me and aro
aro wagon had wilgy, spf, alison
rondo did not vote from what I can see

alison knows she's going over since this was day 3
wise to have aro!wolf on her wagon
and alison and spf!wolf votes on aro

no?

no its before EOD I voted Alison

do you still have the vc screenshots? if you do can you post them

[RondoDimBuckle]

I think that means Lily is town since no one is wanting to push her today

Can you talk to me about Lily for a bit?

Cause honestly, this is like procrastinating a school project now that we are finally collaborating and discussing our ideas/world views with each other lmfao.

I do believe your approach towards me in the last hour has been pretty townie and I do feel that you are genially trying to find me. So in the world where you are town and SPF is mafia, she is just going into anti-spew knowing she is going to die and casing 2 towns to not spew anything. I saw yesterday u discussed ur feelings of SPF/Lily being less likely to be w/w because you didn't believe "both players would come in scummy" or something like that. What are the main reasons u tr Lily over Porscha? I just want to understand where ur at and see if maybe I am wrong with my current state.

Ugh the opening sentence feels pockety. Oh yeah I forgot they couldnt both be pushing me so hard at the same EOD because thats fucking dumb if they want to not have me go at them in lylo (unless the planned on killing me). I feel like Porscha has just been enjoying her nice little perch of town read and kinda just hovers around. Also the weird vote switch yesterday. Someone has to look good. Que Bono right? If SPF and Alison are the power wolves to get a couple miselims there has to be a good looking wolf, so to me there is 1 in SPF/Lily and one in Aro/Porscha if you look at those Dynamics. so if you are town it leaves Porscha. I had completely forgotten that Lily and SPF were both pushing me yesterday and I said that. thanks for bringing it up

[Porscha]

@Porscha What made you go from "lock-town" reading SPF yesterday and trying to push elsewhere, to hard sr her now? What was ur progression/thought process there?

idk yet i really need game to go into tomorrow cuz I have to be up for work in 6 hours as it is

[RondoDimBuckle]

This should have been posted yesterday
1 hour 10 minutes.PNG

if alison wagon isn't pure aro is only wolf on it
spf voting with alison on aro

aro/spf w/w?

?

sorry the postcount didn't get posted for some reason.
alison wagon had 2 remaining alive ppl on it: me and aro
aro wagon had wilgy, spf, alison
rondo did not vote from what I can see

alison knows she's going over since this was day 3
wise to have aro!wolf on her wagon
and alison and spf!wolf votes on aro

no?

no its before EOD I voted Alison

do you still have the vc screenshots? if you do can you post them

Nah I deleted them because new day.

1230pmAEST11022.PNG (42.8 KiB) Viewed 552 times

this is yesterday, I think 9 hours and 30 minutes before vote. They are in my ISO though

[RondoDimBuckle]

NOPE, IGNORE THAT

[staypositivefriend]

i'm pretty exhausted and fed up with this game and have been considering just voting now to see if im right and get it over with

i'll probably wait for the full 24 hours, though. i have a meeting tomorrow until like 7:00 EST so i wont be able to vote until around then

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Porscha What made you go from "lock-town" reading SPF yesterday and trying to push elsewhere, to hard sr her now? What was ur progression/thought process there?

idk yet i really need game to go into tomorrow cuz I have to be up for work in 6 hours as it is

yeah I wont vote till after SPF and everyone else so that you can count on

[arogame123]

I think that means Lily is town since no one is wanting to push her today

Can you talk to me about Lily for a bit?

Cause honestly, this is like procrastinating a school project now that we are finally collaborating and discussing our ideas/world views with each other lmfao.

I do believe your approach towards me in the last hour has been pretty townie and I do feel that you are genially trying to find me. So in the world where you are town and SPF is mafia, she is just going into anti-spew knowing she is going to die and casing 2 towns to not spew anything. I saw yesterday u discussed ur feelings of SPF/Lily being less likely to be w/w because you didn't believe "both players would come in scummy" or something like that. What are the main reasons u tr Lily over Porscha? I just want to understand where ur at and see if maybe I am wrong with my current state.

Ugh the opening sentence feels pockety. Oh yeah I forgot they couldnt both be pushing me so hard at the same EOD because thats fucking dumb if they want to not have me go at them in lylo (unless the planned on killing me). I feel like Porscha has just been enjoying her nice little perch of town read and kinda just hovers around. Also the weird vote switch yesterday. Someone has to look good. Que Bono right? If SPF and Alison are the power wolves to get a couple miselims there has to be a good looking wolf, so to me there is 1 in SPF/Lily and one in Aro/Porscha if you look at those Dynamics. so if you are town it leaves Porscha. I had completely forgotten that Lily and SPF were both pushing me yesterday and I said that. thanks for bringing it up

lol no worries, I just wanted to see if that was what you were referring to or not. Hmm, it could potentially explain if there was a "busser" on Alison but damnn.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[REDACTED]

so salty, who hurt you?

there is no saltiness in that post, ur misreading my tone

[staypositivefriend]

@Lilypetal @Porscha - what could i do today that would reasonably change your mind about not voting me today? are you just determined to get me killed today no matter what?

[arogame123]

i'm pretty exhausted and fed up with this game and have been considering just voting now to see if im right and get it over with

i'll probably wait for the full 24 hours, though. i have a meeting tomorrow until like 7:00 EST so i wont be able to vote until around then

no worries, will wait till then.

[arogame123]

man, this blows, I really wish this site had a way of keeping track of vote history cause otherwise we only have EoD votes and can't re-look through the progression of wagon build ups and slow downs.