The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:17 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:16 pm who could have even blocked her on N3? Has there been blocks outside of visiting Flanders in Martin's case or the Gambit deals?

the idea being kyle

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:17 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:16 pm Think 112 not being blocked and being let track means Mafia 4 isn't a blocker

fair enough

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:18 pm**

i bet nook is a janitor who can choose to gain the ability of a dead townie and he has the mayor ability so he can "prove" it

yeah, that's the solve

sorry nook you're right i'm absolutely pushing you after you "prove" your role

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:20 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:18 pm i bet nook is a janitor who can choose to gain the ability of a dead townie and he has the mayor ability so he can "prove" it

yeah, that's the solve

sorry nook you're right i'm absolutely pushing you after you "prove" your role

Of course you are that was abundantly fucking clear

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:21 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:18 pm i bet nook is a janitor who can choose to gain the ability of a dead townie and he has the mayor ability so he can "prove" it

yeah, that's the solve

sorry nook you're right i'm absolutely pushing you after you "prove" your role
Of course you are that was abundantly fucking clear

Yeah I just actually figured it out sorry

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:21 pm**

You’ve literally been setting up for this since I claimed dude

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:22 pm**

Not "setting up" just trying to figure out the solve, if I accept kyle as town you are literally the only person who can be mafia so I had to figure out why it worked and I just did

You saying I'm "setting it up" is just trying to make me look bad because I'm the only possible place you can try to push lol

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:24 pm**

Sorry I'm not letting another "nanook gets a bullshit mafia win due to role madness fuckery" happen

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:26 pm**

Ok boomer

You’ve literally been setting up to push me since I claimed, that isn’t a spin it’s just a fact lol

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:26 pm**

You’re gonna TK me while I’m confirmed town, if you’re mafia good job obviously, if you’re town then you’re being monumentally stupid

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:27 pm**

I honestly don’t know how you could possibly seriously believe what you’re saying lol

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:27 pm**

You insist on using the wording "setting up"

It's not some grand scheme (haha) it's literally just me trying to solve the game and I think I've found it

You're the one with clear agenda to push me here, it's your only possible out

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:27 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:27 pm I honestly don’t know how you could possibly seriously believe what you’re saying lol

This is just a blatant lie, you're outed

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:28 pm**

Like fucking read my posts I literally tried to reason why kyle could be scum and you talked me out of it

You are the only possible scum so I had to reason out how

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:29 pm**

Not wasting any more time arguing with mafia, we don't actually need to discuss anything further, I've solved the last piece of your little puzzle, your last little deus ex machina that you thought could save your doomed team, it's over mate

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:31 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:18 pm i bet nook is a janitor who can choose to gain the ability of a dead townie and he has the mayor ability so he can "prove" it

yeah, that's the solve

sorry nook you're right i'm absolutely pushing you after you "prove" your role

@everyone this is like 98% the case if nook survives

literally nobody else can be mafia

only other possibility is we have to kill tc

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:33 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:28 pm Like fucking read my posts I literally tried to reason why kyle could be scum and you talked me out of it

You are the only possible scum so I had to reason out how

Yeah that seems like a super scummy thing for me to do, talk you out of what would be my only out as mafia

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:34 pm**

Why are you so insufferable sometimes

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:34 pm**

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:34 pm**

I'm done here we can pick back up tomorrow after you use your stolen ability (:

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:39 pm**

No flips is part of the setup, not a role

Finally, this is a Semi-Open Setup with role reveals on lynches and day kills unless otherwise prevented. Night kills will be no reveals unless changed.

This actually suggests there’s potentially an ability that gives night flips (a reverse janitor, whatever that’s called), but night deaths not flipping is CLEARLY AND UNAMBIGUOUSLY part of the setup, not a role

In other words, fuck off

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:41 pm**

Also, like, why the fuck would I back off my CC of alison if I’m mafia?? Or not retract to a mayor claim AT THE START OF THE DAY.

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:45 pm**

If you’re town this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen you do, and that includes both bastard fiesta and space invaders, so.

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:52 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:39 pm No flips is part of the setup, not a role

Finally, this is a Semi-Open Setup with role reveals on lynches and day kills unless otherwise prevented. Night kills will be no reveals unless changed.
This actually suggests there’s potentially an ability that gives night flips (a reverse janitor, whatever that’s called), but night deaths not flipping is CLEARLY AND UNAMBIGUOUSLY part of the setup, not a role

In other words, fuck off

I fucking know that, I don't mean literally janitor, I mean whatever it is that can steal the dead roles

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:54 pm**

Like flips being janitored being part of the setup literally does not preclude, and in fact makes likely imo, there being a mafia role that steals dead roles

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:54 pm**

Bet the dead mayor in spec chat rn is pumping their fists at all my posts

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:11 pm**

okay here's the thing

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:14 pm**

nutella raises a good point. as far as we know there could be a janitor.

none of the roles given so far contradict and they're all town roles (except the two that aren't)

so we should review which roles could be replicated most easily with or without power

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:17 pm**

would it be likely for mafia to have a doppelganger and a grave digger(?) both on staff?

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:19 pm**

Ngl I forgot about the doppelganger lol

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:22 pm**

112: uhhbb something. cleared
Grand Scheme: demon
Joe Who?: Mechanically seraphim
Kylemii: cleared by tutuu
NIK: don't remember
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME: mayor
novaselineever: cleared as not having a secret? I don't remember his role claim
nutella
Thundercat
Thundercat

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:22 pm**

I sent that too early it's not done yet

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:26 pm**

did someone else already do a list

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:32 pm**

112 tracker, nik gunsmith, nova watcher, nutella vig

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:42 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:42 am nevermind, it appears I forgot to add that clause in the rules. Please continue as normal

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:10 pm If you want to 100% prove my role, TK a 3p and I’ll stop the TK. Then there’s zero doubt I’m the mayor.

Ooooh, yeet me, that sounds delightful!

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:47 pm**

I knew Alison was a wolf before it was cool.

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:54 pm**

GD have you given Kyle a deal?

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:53 pm**

Btw nookie im so town im making potato soup for dinner tonight

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:03 pm**

maf surrender imo

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:10 pm**

I have been in contact with the demon man since like day 4 or something. Night 3? whatever. but I haven't taken a deal yet.

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:11 pm**

cus I keep forgetting

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:26 pm**

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:39 pm**

if it's not nanook I think we have a complication.

everything that's happened so far indicates that nanook should survive this lynch so things are gonna get weird I guess.

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:39 pm**

if it's not nanook I think we have a complication.

everything that's happened so far indicates that nanook should survive this lynch so things are gonna get weird I guess.

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:41 pm**

I mean I have to or it’s borderline game throwing

But I’m tempted to just say fuck it let myself die and you guys can figure it out tomorrow

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:42 pm**

If I’m gonna die tomorrow anyways

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:45 pm**

nutella has a reasonable progression of suspicion leading up to poly's death which sorta corroborates her story about killing that person

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:47 pm**

who were 112, NIK, and Nova's given targets? I can check I just want to find out if anyone has this memorized

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:51 pm**

[VOTE: thundercat] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:52 pm**

NIK gunned Mac and KZA

112 tracked joe to nutella

Nova watched someone N1 idr who

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