Re: Amdibals at the Zoo! [Day 1]
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:13 pm
"I am going to kill you" sounds charming and funny lol
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Yeah idk you felt comfortable here while the toneread of you as wolf was that you were kinda stiltedtedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:11 pmI mean idk what to say about this given that I am town so you're correct but the why is kinda vague
I remember you tone reading me as a wolf in that game so I don't know what your perception of my meta is?
My problem with you altogether is that if I understand correctly, you tone read me based on you comparing to my wolf meta from turbo or whatever, when I've only posted GIFs this game (at the time you made the read)
This post again is like, what. The first graf is sensible enough but the second has that wishy-washy hesitancy and the third is just incorrigible. It is worth noting that 112 suggested I be put under a microscope but made no effort to do so.112 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:09 am Amy and tutuu are both involved in the game in a way I wouldn't expect they could create as scum- townleans there still.
Urist seems to be coasting a little bit and isn't offering too much of substance, but I like their tone and they seem to be inside a cocoon of genuine uncertainty around the gamestate. I maintain my townlean.
Colin is way on the outskirts of things, dropping in to comment little bits here and there without much solving actions. I think he's a good person to put under the microscope.
Your agressivity level in your handling of tutuu seems disproportionate to how you're actually reading her. It seemed like you were still hesitating a lot/trying to convince her you're town while simultaneously trying to shade her.Alison wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:03 pmHave you seen my other games? All my pushes are aggressive. No reason to push someone if you don't want to kill them, and if you want to kill them then why not be aggressive?Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:59 pm tutuu/Alison not townreading each other anymore makes me think I might be wrong townreading both of them them. Alison's push on tutuu actually reminds me a lot of how she pushed me in Space Invaders regarding the you don't have tangible things against me line and ~aggressivity-ish level
Also ask yourself if town Alison would be annoyed by people wrongly scumreading her for no reason before you make that comparison tbh
Reinforcing the point because you either missed it or ignored it - you literally gave a tone read when all I did was post GIFs this game? Or is there some other development to this read?nutella wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:14 pmYeah idk you felt comfortable here while the toneread of you as wolf was that you were kinda stiltedtedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:11 pmI mean idk what to say about this given that I am town so you're correct but the why is kinda vague
I remember you tone reading me as a wolf in that game so I don't know what your perception of my meta is?
My problem with you altogether is that if I understand correctly, you tone read me based on you comparing to my wolf meta from turbo or whatever, when I've only posted GIFs this game (at the time you made the read)
and when you started scumreading me that solidified it more I guess
Justification in an earlier post being “I didn’t like the post I saw from them”. “Disgusting.”
I started out as trying to convince her I was town because I thought she was also town but as the argument developed I started to believe she was just making a bad, scummy push on me, her views and logic didn't add up and a lot of the things she was saying just felt like baseless attempts to discredit me so at that point I conceded that Occam's Razor was that she was probably just scum and voted herCarotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:16 pmYour agressivity level in your handling of tutuu seems disproportionate to how you're actually reading her. It seemed like you were still hesitating a lot/trying to convince her you're town while simultaneously trying to shade her.Alison wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:03 pmHave you seen my other games? All my pushes are aggressive. No reason to push someone if you don't want to kill them, and if you want to kill them then why not be aggressive?Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:59 pm tutuu/Alison not townreading each other anymore makes me think I might be wrong townreading both of them them. Alison's push on tutuu actually reminds me a lot of how she pushed me in Space Invaders regarding the you don't have tangible things against me line and ~aggressivity-ish level
Also ask yourself if town Alison would be annoyed by people wrongly scumreading her for no reason before you make that comparison tbh
And yeah I can see that lol, though I haven't really played with town you.
it was beforetedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:17 pmReinforcing the point because you either missed it or ignored it - you literally gave a tone read when all I did was post GIFs this game? Or is there some other development to this read?nutella wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:14 pmYeah idk you felt comfortable here while the toneread of you as wolf was that you were kinda stiltedtedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:11 pmI mean idk what to say about this given that I am town so you're correct but the why is kinda vague
I remember you tone reading me as a wolf in that game so I don't know what your perception of my meta is?
My problem with you altogether is that if I understand correctly, you tone read me based on you comparing to my wolf meta from turbo or whatever, when I've only posted GIFs this game (at the time you made the read)
and when you started scumreading me that solidified it more I guess
Like did you only come up with the tone read after I "tunneled" you or was it before?
If it wasn't before, then why was I ever a town read in the first place?
I mean. Your reasons exist but they seem pretty weak to me and realistically you're probably not gonna be sheeped on tutuu/Turnip Head and 112 is pretty consensus anyway so it seems like a convenient way to distance yourself from whatever the vote result will be.Alison wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:08 pmYou've read all the posts I made where I painstakingly write down all the reasons I have to believe that those three people are scum right?Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:04 pmomg how do you have a preferred pool so early
I don't really like it, the only ~okay vote is 112 and she's like the most consensus vote in the thread. Why are you not including some of the other low posters?
I have no idea why you're confused that I have a preferred exe pool early when I have real reasons to believe these people are scum and I don't have any reason to believe assorted other low posters are scum other than being low posters (which is weaker than the scumreads I have on these specific people)
I don't care if my reasons seem weak to you as long as it's clear to you why I believe themCarotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:22 pmI mean. Your reasons exist but they seem pretty weak to me and realistically you're probably not gonna be sheeped on tutuu/Turnip Head and 112 is pretty consensus anyway so it seems like a convenient way to distance yourself from whatever the vote result will be.Alison wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:08 pmYou've read all the posts I made where I painstakingly write down all the reasons I have to believe that those three people are scum right?Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:04 pmomg how do you have a preferred pool so early
I don't really like it, the only ~okay vote is 112 and she's like the most consensus vote in the thread. Why are you not including some of the other low posters?
I have no idea why you're confused that I have a preferred exe pool early when I have real reasons to believe these people are scum and I don't have any reason to believe assorted other low posters are scum other than being low posters (which is weaker than the scumreads I have on these specific people)
it does seem like a moot pointnutella wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:22 pmit was beforetedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:17 pmReinforcing the point because you either missed it or ignored it - you literally gave a tone read when all I did was post GIFs this game? Or is there some other development to this read?nutella wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:14 pmYeah idk you felt comfortable here while the toneread of you as wolf was that you were kinda stiltedtedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:11 pmI mean idk what to say about this given that I am town so you're correct but the why is kinda vague
I remember you tone reading me as a wolf in that game so I don't know what your perception of my meta is?
My problem with you altogether is that if I understand correctly, you tone read me based on you comparing to my wolf meta from turbo or whatever, when I've only posted GIFs this game (at the time you made the read)
and when you started scumreading me that solidified it more I guess
Like did you only come up with the tone read after I "tunneled" you or was it before?
If it wasn't before, then why was I ever a town read in the first place?
idk why we're still talking about this?
[mention]protocultures[/mention] You missed this post >:( Anyway:Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:44 pm... Is Alison a town read or a scum read?protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:06 pm pretty sure it was Alison who was describing that sometimes they like to get scrumread at start of game and then climb out of the hole they dug for themselves as some sort of challenge. Might also be toitally mistaking that for another player. Cant 100% be sure it was alison. If it was, someone else can probably confirm it.
Open wolfing is also something Alison would do as mafia. It is also something they would need to do as actual mafia since they do it as town for balance reasons. You either dont understand this logic, or you do.
I have seen tutuu be more towny when town. She is not lock town to me at the moment. She in POE with everyone else.
No hard town reads or scumreads other than Alison atm.
Joseph prides himself on being good at mafia. He currently thinks I am mafia. Gonna omgus and lean Joseph as mafia here for scumreading me. Not as direct omgus, but more based on the fact that he should be able to read me as town. Granted I havent been very towny, but even so.
This post itself likely to get me more scumread. oh well.
Game is easier if I am scumread because when everyone pockets me as clear town, the game is harder. OMGUS to find the mafia usually isnt a terrible strategy.
So this implies the first quoted post was a scumread, which is ??? For every reason you think she's mafia you also give the counterargument. Second quote is even worse, t!protocultures doesn't accept nonsense like that and isn't afraid to get engaged against his scumreads.protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:57 pm[...]
Alison - prob still mafia but not voting them day 1 because: they are currently hard defending me when a couple people want to kill me. If they are town, its good I am not pushing them. If they are mafia, they are doing a good job townsiding by pocketing and hard defending me.
I assume I misremembered the name of the player who likes being scumread at start of games to dig themselves out of a hole since Alison is saying this not NOT something she said, and also nobody else remembers this either so think its a conversation I had with someone else in another mafia community. Oddly she notes she thinks I am fabricating this whole thing but still townreads me. Either way, look to point above - Alison is town and defending me or she is hard defending me as mafia, both of which are good for now and why I wont vote her day 1. Kind of unfairly, I will probably always have a suspicion of Alison in every single game I play with them.
My second point on alison i am pretty sure is NOT a lie. That is that they claim mafia on day 0/1 - pretty sure Alison did this in Lion King as town and they did it in this game as well. My point remains that if she will do this as town, she must do this as mafia as well for balance reasons.
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proto called Alison town for meta, while tutuu called Alison mafia for meta. It makes sense that the reaction is different, regardless of the alignments of all involved.Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:07 pm Ugh can proto/Alison be w/w? Alison's reaction to protocultures mischaracterizing her meta is clearly different from her reaction to tutuu.
Aaaaaaaaaaaah *resist the temptation of starting to tunnel*
There's a lot of people that just... Exist. I should probably look at them hmn
Her buddies, duh.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:21 pmWhere is the momentum supposed to come from if 112 were scum?
so you're... asserting that 112 would be getting bussed if she were a wolf? am i reading that right?Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:23 pmHer buddies, duh.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:21 pmWhere is the momentum supposed to come from if 112 were scum?
hmn, yeah proto's call to meta was much more ambiguous but it still ended in a scumreadUrist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:22 pmproto called Alison town for meta, while tutuu called Alison mafia for meta. It makes sense that the reaction is different, regardless of the alignments of all involved.Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:07 pm Ugh can proto/Alison be w/w? Alison's reaction to protocultures mischaracterizing her meta is clearly different from her reaction to tutuu.
Aaaaaaaaaaaah *resist the temptation of starting to tunnel*
There's a lot of people that just... Exist. I should probably look at them hmn
What if they haven’t logged on since I added 1 vote to put it above two other wagons at 2 votes (three now)?Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:23 pmHer buddies, duh.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:21 pmWhere is the momentum supposed to come from if 112 were scum?
what if they're just afk thoughUrist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:23 pmHer buddies, duh.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:21 pmWhere is the momentum supposed to come from if 112 were scum?
I think you meant to say skanky
I know this game feels slow, but how many AFKers do we actually have? 10k, maybe? I think that most people have logged on since 112 became the thread's pariah, so I'm not sure your counterargument is valid.Carotenoid wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:27 pmwhat if they're just afk thoughUrist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:23 pmHer buddies, duh.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:21 pmWhere is the momentum supposed to come from if 112 were scum?
i'm not sarcastic wtfNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:30 pm Wow it’s almost as fun watching people react to Urist’s quiet sarcasm as it watching them throw themselves at the wall of elli “Im not going to explain my read but it’s correct” bereth
Oh right sorry I forgot you’re a Super Serious Mafia Player with no sense of humor.Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:39 pmi'm not sarcastic wtfNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:30 pm Wow it’s almost as fun watching people react to Urist’s quiet sarcasm as it watching them throw themselves at the wall of elli “Im not going to explain my read but it’s correct” bereth
it's true, i'm basically a robotNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:41 pmOh right sorry I forgot you’re a Super Serious Mafia Player with no sense of humor.Urist wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:39 pmi'm not sarcastic wtfNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 5:30 pm Wow it’s almost as fun watching people react to Urist’s quiet sarcasm as it watching them throw themselves at the wall of elli “Im not going to explain my read but it’s correct” bereth
My bad.