The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:31 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:11 pm Please give me your most biased accounts of each case as you can muster and I will vote accordingly
Made is mafia. He made wilgy get coal.
amazing, what about the other two

Who are the other two?

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:31 pm**

I'm looking for more bias than that please

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:32 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:11 pm Please give me your most biased accounts of each case as you can muster and I will vote accordingly
Made is mafia. He made wilgy get coal.
amazing, what about the other two
Syn is mafia for his D1 EOD action + my gut/meta read. I'm abandoning that wagon atm, but plan to pursue it next phase.

What if made flips mafia?

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:33 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:11 pm Please give me your most biased accounts of each case as you can muster and I will vote accordingly
Made is mafia. He made wilgy get coal.
amazing, what about the other two
Who are the other two?

there were 3 people on the poll with votes last time I checked, one of them was wilgy and the other had an S name. maybe 4

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:36 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:32 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:11 pm Please give me your most biased accounts of each case as you can muster and I will vote accordingly
Made is mafia. He made wilgy get coal.
amazing, what about the other two
Syn is mafia for his D1 EOD action + my gut/meta read. I'm abandoning that wagon atm, but plan to pursue it next phase.
What if made flips mafia?

The tunnler in me wants to say deep wolf, but that seems kind of illogical to me given the set up, guess I'd say more of a mafia lean read that should ve discussed still.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:37 pm**

We'll have interactions to look at also so that may shift the game. But this wouldn't clear syn just maybe make eod1 look less damming

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:39 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:31 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:11 pm Please give me your most biased accounts of each case as you can muster and I will vote accordingly
Made is mafia. He made wilgy get coal.
amazing, what about the other two
Who are the other two?
there were 3 people on the poll with votes last time I checked, one of them was wilgy and the other had an S name. maybe 4

The argument against Wilgy is that he is most definitely Wilgy. There seems to be a theory which conjoins wilgy with syn, but it is circular and arbitrary. Syn has no votes currently, but is a name in discussion.

Sig has a vote. I’m not sure what argument has been made against him. I have one that I’m sitting on. I’d rather we vote for Made today.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:49 pm**

Don’t know if there’s anything I can say to switch y’all’s takes, but if y’all wanna do a deadman’s AMA come thruu

I don’t get how nothing I’ve said is valid/non circular but every read against me perfect, but so it goes

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:52 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:32 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:29 pm I'm gonna carve out like 20 minutes do a quick ISO of Made instead of just reading through the argument, then pop back in again.

I'm assuming there's no way @Samusamu @Sloonei would switch to Syn today?
i'm leaving in 2 seconds and currently think that all the arguments I've seen against Syn are nonsense. I'm not saying he's lock town, but it would take something huge to sway me there.

Plus I am very firmly reading Made as mafia.

One hour later

Does day in 9 minutes? Where is everyone??

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:57 pm**

If Made is mafia, I think sig might be his teammate. I’m not saying that’s definitely, and we’re obviously still waiting on made’s flip. But the way this phase has gone feels like it is pointing that way.

The setup is such that an aggressive mafia team can nearly wrap it up tonight. We started at 9 vs 3. Coal eliminates one player from voting each day. Assuming they are targeting civilians with that, then we actually started at 8 vs. 3 in terms of eligible voters. A mischop and a successful nightkill puts it at 6 vs 3. Another lump of coal for a civilian makes it 5 vs 3 right now.

If we mischop today and the mafia team avoids nightkills and gifts a lump of coal to a civilian, they outnumber us on Day 3. They can singularly push for a mischop today to put themselves in a position to achieve that goal. They don’t have the numbers to do it on their own yet, but a coordinated push would be the correct play for a team that wants to win as quickly as possible.

Sig and Maid have both pushed for Syn/Wilgy today. The argument is flimsy at best. They’ve dragged their feet when it comes to discussing each other. Sig has finally voted for Made today, but it took a lot of verbiage to get him there, and I feel ad though I’ve basically strong-armed the thread into this Made wagon.

Mewtini could be teammate #3. Made’s town read on her was way overstated for her level of participation, and there was an implicit defense of her in his response to me. She has voiced suspicion of Made but has taken zero steps toward manifesting any sort of pressure on him, and seems to have shifted to a more pro-made stance today. I do not know that she has had a whole lot to say about sig/syn/wilgy.

I would not take any of this to the bank if Made flips mafia. We would still need to do the work of analyzing player interactions. If we are right today, that is what our energy should be spent on Day 3.

Independent of all associations, Made is the most suspicious player in the thread right now.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:01 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:57 pm If Made is mafia, I think sig might be his teammate. I’m not saying that’s definitely, and we’re obviously still waiting on made’s flip. But the way this phase has gone feels like it is pointing that way.

The setup is such that an aggressive mafia team can nearly wrap it up tonight. We started at 9 vs 3. Coal eliminates one player from voting each day. Assuming they are targeting civilians with that, then we actually started at 8 vs. 3 in terms of eligible voters. A mischop and a successful nightkill puts it at 6 vs 3. Another lump of coal for a civilian makes it 5 vs 3 right now.

If we mischop today and the mafia team avoids nightkills and gifts a lump of coal to a civilian, they outnumber us on Day 3. They can singularly push for a mischop today to put themselves in a position to achieve that goal. They don’t have the numbers to do it on their own yet, but a coordinated push would be the correct play for a team that wants to win as quickly as possible.

Sig and Maid have both pushed for Syn/Wilgy today. The argument is flimsy at best. They’ve dragged their feet when it comes to discussing each other. Sig has finally voted for Made today, but it took a lot of verbiage to get him there, and I feel ad though I’ve basically strong-armed the thread into this Made wagon.

Mewtini could be teammate #3. Made’s town read on her was way overstated for her level of participation, and there was an implicit defense of her in his response to me. She has voiced suspicion of Made but has taken zero steps toward manifesting any sort of pressure on him, and seems to have shifted to a more pro-made stance today. I do not know that she has had a whole lot to say about sig/syn/wilgy.

I would not take any of this to the bank if Made flips mafia. We would still need to do the work of analyzing player interactions. If we are right today, that is what our energy should be spent on Day 3.

Independent of all associations, Made is the most suspicious player in the thread right now.

Id counter this in that I talked about made alot but qe can discuss post flip depending how it goes.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:01 pm**

We'll see alot of people didn't reallt show up today which is meh

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:03 pm**

Deadline has passed but idk if I should lock the thread.

4 votes for Made (Samu, Sloonei, sig, Syn: S-power unite)
1 vote for sig (Wilgy)
1 vote for Wilgy (Made)

For posterity.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:07 pm**

... but wilgy’s vote doesn’t count

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:08 pm**

Oh carp, I forgot day ended now, although my vote doesn't count anyway, so whatever

If posting is still permitted, everyone should post their targets tonight imo. My pick is Wilgy.

Also, I don't think Made is mafia, but I do generally townread the voters on his wagon (and not just because their names all start with s)

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:08 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:07 pm ... but wilgy’s vote doesn’t count

No, I was coaled today. Wilgy was D1.

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:08 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:07 pm ... but wilgy’s vote doesn’t count

Wilgy's vote counts, Marmot's doesn't (he voted coal anyway)

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:12 pm**

Made (4): samu, sloon, syn, sig
Wilgy (1): made
Sig (1): wilgy
Not voting (4): marmot (coal), grand scheme, Kyle, mewtini

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:15 pm**

Made is revealed as a Santa’s helper/mafia

Posted: **Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:17 pm**

Send in your shot targets

@DrWilgy
@marmot
@sig
@Sloonei
@Syn
@Grand Scheme
@Samusamu
@Kylemii
@mewtini

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:18 pm**

@mewtini has died and flips town. @Samusamu has been coaled.

A clarification for shots: if you don’t submit a shot target, one from your alignment will be randomly selected for you. You will not be told who your target was, including if you were gifted.

@DrWilgy
@marmot
@sig
@Sloonei
@Syn
@Grand Scheme
@Samusamu
@Kylemii

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:21 pm**

Well i choose shooting mewtini this night.

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:23 pm**

The reason is the list that made did at the beginning.

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:26 pm**

made (scum)
sig ( prob scum )
syn (townlean for me)
kyle (nai) (then prob scum)
sloonei (town for me)

GS (nai)
mew (town)
cat (town)

alison (town)
wilgy (town for me)
samu (town)

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:29 pm**

Also didnt like the interactions within made an mew n1.

Also alison have problems reading mewtini.

Then i choose mewtini, dunno if anyother did the same or like nanook said somebody didnt choose target and it was random.

I'm not happy knowing mewtini is town and i choosing her to shot, but still think it was a good option.

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:36 pm**

Samusamu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:29 pm Also didnt like the interactions within made an mew n1.

Also alison have problems reading mewtini.

Then i choose mewtini, dunno if anyother did the same or like nanook said somebody didnt choose target and it was random.

I'm not happy knowing mewtini is town and i choosing her to shot, but still think it was a good option.

D1*

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:39 pm**

The longer I live the more blood of Sig I desire...

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:41 pm**

But then again Sig helper kill Made.

BUT I WANT TO YEET SIG!!!

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:46 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:41 pm But then again Sig helper kill Made.

BUT I WANT TO YEET SIG!!!

Mean

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:48 pm**

I'm just popping in, but I'll be back later

I'll give sloonie credit here, I wasn't convinced made was had even up to the lynch. I've thought more oj syn and I cant shake the gut read plus eod1

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:49 pm**

Wilgy stop tunneling:p

Or at least give me a reason

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:55 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:49 pm Wilgy stop tunneling:p

Or at least give me a reason

U have been tunneling syn and wilgy, tell me why they shouldnt tunel on you?

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:59 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:46 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:41 pm But then again Sig helper kill Made.

BUT I WANT TO YEET SIG!!!

Mean

I'm just jelly of your looks.

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:00 pm**

Interesting, I was coaled Night 1 and Alison dies (who I targeted)

Samu was coaled Night 2 and mew dies (who he targeted)

I wonder if mafia are coaling and gifting the same player every time.

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:02 pm**

Good job on catching Made there y'all, I didn't feel as confident on that one.

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:06 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:00 pm Interesting, I was coaled Night 1 and Alison dies (who I targeted)

Samu was coaled Night 2 and mew dies (who he targeted)

I wonder if mafia are coaling and gifting the same player every time.

Almost three persons choose alison n1.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Who is the mafia right now for u? And what do u choose this night?

These two points are what a town have to begin with.

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:11 pm**

Samusamu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:55 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:49 pm Wilgy stop tunneling:p

Or at least give me a reason
U have been tunneling syn and wilgy, tell me why they shouldnt tunel on you?

Yea but like, I'm right.

Annnnnd ive mainly been tunneling on syn

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:11 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:59 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:46 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:41 pm But then again Sig helper kill Made.

BUT I WANT TO YEET SIG!!!

Mean
I'm just jelly of your looks.

I mean that makes sense.

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:23 pm**

hello everyone. i apologize for missing the vote, i meant to catch up on my lunch break or at least find out what was going on, but i got distracted by a really good youtube video and forgot about the game entirely

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:46 pm**

hey did you guys know Sloonei is all-time Mafia champ

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:53 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:46 pm hey did you guys know Sloonei is all-time Mafia champ

What do u mean?

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:15 pm**

I chose to shoot Sloonei last night
Maybe we should string him up tight

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:26 pm**

In what world a mafia slooney will do that post against made, He was able to make literally half the effort in them to convey his idea and yet he made an effort to convey his readings so that he decided to go to Made once and for all.

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:27 pm**

Samusamu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:21 pm Well i choose shooting mewtini this night.

Me too, but I highly doubt I was picked to shoot

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:27 pm**

Grand Scheme wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:15 pm I chose to shoot Sloonei last night
Maybe we should string him up tight

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

Lol

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:27 pm**

Also I thought coal was permanent

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:35 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:27 pm Also I thought coal was permanent

No, thoughts on marmot?

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:43 pm**

Samusamu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:27 pm Also I thought coal was permanent
No, thoughts on marmot?

Town, but I haven’t looked into made’s interactions beyond sig and mewtini yet.

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:44 pm**

@Grand Scheme how much of this game have you read?

Posted: **Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:20 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:43 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:27 pm Also I thought coal was permanent
No, thoughts on marmot?
Town, but I haven’t looked into made’s interactions beyond sig and mewtini yet.

Well, hoping to read why town.

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