The Syndicate

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:15 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:11 pm @MacDougall the first time you played with Gavial, do you remember your alignment/his alignment by any chance?

Oh this question. The first time I played with Gavial I believe was in the Fallout game and I believe he was mafia.

Hmm... the first time I played with Gavial was actually also Fallout, but I had no recollection of him because I repped in and he was chop at that point...

The second time I played with Gavial though I was a wolf and he was town. A funny thing happened in thread... I think he was obvtown. I really just had a hard time doing anything other than just claiming he was obvtown, and I was surprised that villagers were scumreading him.

Any guesses why I bring this little anecdote up?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:15 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:11 pm @MacDougall the first time you played with Gavial, do you remember your alignment/his alignment by any chance?

Oh this question. The first time I played with Gavial I believe was in the Fallout game and I believe he was mafia.

Hmm... the first time I played with Gavial was actually also Fallout, but I had no recollection of him because I repped in and he was chop at that point...

The second time I played with Gavial though I was a wolf and he was town. A funny thing happened in thread... I think he was obvtown. I really just had a hard time doing anything other than just claiming he was obvtown, and I was surprised that villagers were scumreading him.

Any guesses why I bring this little anecdote up?

Sure. You are mafia and you think Creature is town.

Lol. No it's probably that you are seeing in me how you were playing there.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:36 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:15 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:11 pm @MacDougall the first time you played with Gavial, do you remember your alignment/his alignment by any chance?

Oh this question. The first time I played with Gavial I believe was in the Fallout game and I believe he was mafia.

Hmm... the first time I played with Gavial was actually also Fallout, but I had no recollection of him because I repped in and he was chop at that point...

The second time I played with Gavial though I was a wolf and he was town. A funny thing happened in thread... I think he was obvtown. I really just had a hard time doing anything other than just claiming he was obvtown, and I was surprised that villagers were scumreading him.

Any guesses why I bring this little anecdote up?

Sure. You are mafia and you think Creature is town.

Lol. No it's probably that you are seeing in me how you were playing there.

Fext, not Wilgy

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:38 pm I'm going for a run. Someone make Mac sweat about his Fext treatment while I'm making myself sweat.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:38 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:36 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:15 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:11 pm @MacDougall the first time you played with Gavial, do you remember your alignment/his alignment by any chance?

Oh this question. The first time I played with Gavial I believe was in the Fallout game and I believe he was mafia.

Hmm... the first time I played with Gavial was actually also Fallout, but I had no recollection of him because I repped in and he was chop at that point...

The second time I played with Gavial though I was a wolf and he was town. A funny thing happened in thread... I think he was obvtown. I really just had a hard time doing anything other than just claiming he was obvtown, and I was surprised that villagers were scumreading him.

Any guesses why I bring this little anecdote up?

Sure. You are mafia and you think Creature is town.

Lol. No it's probably that you are seeing in me how you were playing there.

Fext, not Wilgy

I didn't claim Fext was obvtown or even really townread Fext? I waivered a lil bit sure but how is how I treated Fext anything like how you describe the way you treated Gavial?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:43 pm Nah man the main reason I "dipped" is because this game has an EOD about 30 minutes before I get out of bed so I more or less missed the entire final 10 hours of the day due to sleeping. I left my vote on Fext because Alison showed up and buried Fext in a way that made me feel like leaving my vote there was probably just the correct thing to do.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:20 pm Sorry about that I got very busy. NAA why are you thinking Alison?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:43 pm Nah man the main reason I "dipped" is because this game has an EOD about 30 minutes before I get out of bed so I more or less missed the entire final 10 hours of the day due to sleeping. I left my vote on Fext because Alison showed up and buried Fext in a way that made me feel like leaving my vote there was probably just the correct thing to do.

If you believe that you made the correct play, then you don't need to ask the question that you did coming into the thread:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:20 pm Sorry about that I got very busy. NAA why are you thinking Alison?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:47 pm Oh so it's Alison and Mac

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:43 pm Nah man the main reason I "dipped" is because this game has an EOD about 30 minutes before I get out of bed so I more or less missed the entire final 10 hours of the day due to sleeping. I left my vote on Fext because Alison showed up and buried Fext in a way that made me feel like leaving my vote there was probably just the correct thing to do.

If you believe that you made the correct play, then you don't need to ask the question that you did coming into the thread:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:20 pm Sorry about that I got very busy. NAA why are you thinking Alison?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:48 pm Damn though

I was trusting Alison, Mac and Seanzie had good reads yesterday.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:04 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:59 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:59 pm Just realized I'm the only one not voting anyone. So where should I vote?

Fext

Why?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:54 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:53 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:53 pm We're missing the important players

Vote Alison, TIE TIE TIE

but I don't want to lynch Alison

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:56 pm Meh

[VOTE: Fext] aubergine

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:57 pm The Fext wagon strikes me more confidence than the Alison wagon

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:49 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:43 pm Nah man the main reason I "dipped" is because this game has an EOD about 30 minutes before I get out of bed so I more or less missed the entire final 10 hours of the day due to sleeping. I left my vote on Fext because Alison showed up and buried Fext in a way that made me feel like leaving my vote there was probably just the correct thing to do.

If you believe that you made the correct play, then you don't need to ask the question that you did coming into the thread:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:20 pm Sorry about that I got very busy. NAA why are you thinking Alison?

How about answering the question for a change... that'd be quite helpful to me.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:55 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:49 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:43 pm Nah man the main reason I "dipped" is because this game has an EOD about 30 minutes before I get out of bed so I more or less missed the entire final 10 hours of the day due to sleeping. I left my vote on Fext because Alison showed up and buried Fext in a way that made me feel like leaving my vote there was probably just the correct thing to do.

If you believe that you made the correct play, then you don't need to ask the question that you did coming into the thread:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:20 pm Sorry about that I got very busy. NAA why are you thinking Alison?

How about answering the question for a change... that'd be quite helpful to me.

I don't know what there is left to say... An obv town player was axed on D1 of a game that has 2 miss-elims. The logic was that he was mafia with a polarized player that had one good game in which people didn't force anything alignment indicative out of him.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:57 pm Like, I'd love to provide you with more answers Mac, but how on earth do 2 experienced players go to town on some of the most polarized players in the game D1 and expect to not get called out?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:00 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:55 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:49 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:43 pm Nah man the main reason I "dipped" is because this game has an EOD about 30 minutes before I get out of bed so I more or less missed the entire final 10 hours of the day due to sleeping. I left my vote on Fext because Alison showed up and buried Fext in a way that made me feel like leaving my vote there was probably just the correct thing to do.

If you believe that you made the correct play, then you don't need to ask the question that you did coming into the thread:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:20 pm Sorry about that I got very busy. NAA why are you thinking Alison?

How about answering the question for a change... that'd be quite helpful to me.

I don't know what there is left to say... An obv town player was axed on D1 of a game that has 2 miss-elims. The logic was that he was mafia with a polarized player that had one good game in which people didn't force anything alignment indicative out of him.

I barely paid attention day 1 so you're really going to have to be verbose with me here.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:04 pm Well the way you are describing things is not painting a very clear picture for me. It's like trying to tell me the plot of episode 3 without telling me what happened in the first two episodes.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:04 pm Well the way you are describing things is not painting a very clear picture for me. It's like trying to tell me the plot of episode 3 without telling me what happened in the first two episodes.

Go read it, or take the L

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:48 pm Damn though

I was trusting Alison, Mac and Seanzie had good reads yesterday.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:07 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:48 pm Damn though

I was trusting Alison, Mac and Seanzie had good reads yesterday.

Anyone else read this & think it's genuine?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:06 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:04 pm Well the way you are describing things is not painting a very clear picture for me. It's like trying to tell me the plot of episode 3 without telling me what happened in the first two episodes.

Go read it, or take the L

Read what though? I'm not even sure that your description of what occurred is lining up with events because you're suggesting things that I know for a fact didn't happen and describing people in belittling ways that do not describe them.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:10 pm I still think it's Alison / Mac though.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:45 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:05 am given LC is a leading wagon I do have to ask

in poking around I saw he just won a game as mafia where people were like really shocked by his performance

how much does that factor into all of your guys' perceptions of him in this game

I used to clear him for having a pulse. Now I don't.

That's about it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:56 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:55 pm as I mentioned though I'm not exactly planning to constrain myself to 1v1ing LC

stop town telling when i'm trying to get you mischopped

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:32 am Seanzie, myself and Mac are all projecting strong scumreads on Fext.

We are all well known for having accurate D1 reads and we can't all be wolves.

We should just throw Fext into the sun and then turbo LC if he flips mafia.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:52 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:13 pm So we're still lynching Host/Spec today, right?

I've been called a straight shooter before, so I'm not gonna beat around the bush. You aren't a contribution to town and I reckon we need to get rid of you before f5.

Hustles ain't the place for this, we need to get that pool of people down.

Can you please move to Fext though? If Fext is wolf, the wagons are in a perfect position for a save right now, and I really don't like that.

Also, LC seems more-or-less deflated at this point, which again strongly suggests LC/Fext. We just need to flip Fext. If that is wrong, we need to seriously re-evaluate, but if we don't flip Fext, tomorrow is going to be insanely unproductive.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:19 pm I mean, Mac is straight-up lying through his teeth by saying he didn't read and also arguing that my explanation of what happened isn't reality.

Also, my thoughts on specific players being generally polarized are not unsupported and aren't something Mac should be balking at (even if he thinks it's a bit unfriendly).

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:45 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:05 am given LC is a leading wagon I do have to ask

in poking around I saw he just won a game as mafia where people were like really shocked by his performance

how much does that factor into all of your guys' perceptions of him in this game

I used to clear him for having a pulse. Now I don't.

That's about it.

Also, gamestate items:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:56 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:55 pm as I mentioned though I'm not exactly planning to constrain myself to 1v1ing LC

stop town telling when i'm trying to get you mischopped

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:32 am Seanzie, myself and Mac are all projecting strong scumreads on Fext.

We are all well known for having accurate D1 reads and we can't all be wolves.

We should just throw Fext into the sun and then turbo LC if he flips mafia.

I should probably just stop interacting with Mac.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:19 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:52 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:13 pm So we're still lynching Host/Spec today, right?

I've been called a straight shooter before, so I'm not gonna beat around the bush. You aren't a contribution to town and I reckon we need to get rid of you before f5.

Hustles ain't the place for this, we need to get that pool of people down.

Can you please move to Fext though? If Fext is wolf, the wagons are in a perfect position for a save right now, and I really don't like that.

Also, LC seems more-or-less deflated at this point, which again strongly suggests LC/Fext. We just need to flip Fext. If that is wrong, we need to seriously re-evaluate, but if we don't flip Fext, tomorrow is going to be insanely unproductive.

Why is Seanzie getting a free ride when he was the captain of the Fext wagon and pushed the LC/Fext world actively?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:43 pm Nah man the main reason I "dipped" is because this game has an EOD about 30 minutes before I get out of bed so I more or less missed the entire final 10 hours of the day due to sleeping. I left my vote on Fext because Alison showed up and buried Fext in a way that made me feel like leaving my vote there was probably just the correct thing to do.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:20 pm Sorry about that I got very busy. NAA why are you thinking Alison?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:54 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:53 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:50 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:45 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:42 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:42 pm

This is a serious question though. Do you understand why I strongly believe one of you or Fext absolutely has to be the chop today?

Not at all. The point to mafia is to lynch wolves. Not towns.

Okay, thank you. This essentially confirms that you're mafia as well to me. I was a bit worried that maybe Fext had heard that from someone else in scum chat, but nah, you're doubling down on defending him and not willing to acknowledge that his knowledge about you is extremely suspicious (which it REALLY should be extremely suspicious from a town!LC perspective).

It was obvious post game in Molly Maguires that everyone was shocked that I played a strong wolf game. He said he saw it, I believe it.

When Fext flips town then you better be going after Mac, otherwise you're just outing yourself even more.

frankly I'm going to do my damndest to get you lynched before I ever go over

but that's neither here nor there

Lol, *need towncred now!* *bus!*

ehhhhhhhhhhh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:54 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:54 pm fr tho seanzie I saw you pinging me but saw no effort to ask questions or do anything that would help you get in my head

it was a few questions about what games I'd looked at and when with no change in your viewpoint or approach

seems incongruous with your insistence that I talk in realtime because literally none of those questions are things where my answer would change if I had time to think about and plan out an answer

townie words tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:56 pm

Fext wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:55 pm as I mentioned though I'm not exactly planning to constrain myself to 1v1ing LC

stop town telling when i'm trying to get you mischopped

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:17 pm That is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:45 pm I didn't even see your post and the first thing I did was comment on it.

I got busy = I couldn't camp and actually do much aside from shit out hot takes.

I left my vote there = I saw Alison post and thought sheeping her was fine. I missed the last 10 hours of the day because the EOD is 7am my time.

Feel free to chop me and make this upcoming town L more your fault than mine.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:49 pm It's not one person casing me. It's half the game deciding I'm mafia because I took a shit on day 1. I'm probably spewed town from it from Creature tbh.