The Syndicate

I should probably sleep

I am manic today

@Boquise give me a time when we can realtime for like 30m

what's realitime?

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:50 am what's realitime?

talking like this, when you know the other person is online and can rapidly respond
compared to catching up and being analytical in the thread hours or days after x has happened

chet what’s ur read on me/dizzzy/boq

Violet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:29 am
Can anyone more familiar with the site confirm if violations against AtE policy are brought up in the thread like this? At first I didn't think about it, but considering the theme of the game, this might be related to a some in game ability.

Dunno how Nanook enforces AtE policy in other games, but it's probably ability-related, given the theme of this game.

Town, wolf, indy ability, though?

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:53 am chet what’s ur read on me/dizzzy/boq

oh, I realized chet is me, not general chat, lol, you used it before

don't have flip reads started

on you, as a player committed to reads, I want to see reads. I'll sus you on principle, till then.
on dizzy, they fretted an awful lot EOD and almost pushed low-hanging fruit, can't tell yet if genuine lost-at-sea townie or wolf that wasn't on a clean vote/read
boq good vibes, though less active rn.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:53 am

Violet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:29 am
Can anyone more familiar with the site confirm if violations against AtE policy are brought up in the thread like this? At first I didn't think about it, but considering the theme of the game, this might be related to a some in game ability.

Dunno how Nanook enforces AtE policy in other games, but it's probably ability-related, given the theme of this game.

Town, wolf, indy ability, though?

only the Uzbek’s know that for now, and since jack didn’t say he got destroyed last night i will assume the ability might’ve been a buff
but idk if nook thinks acab and is a 19yo reader of political and social theory
i lied, nook does take the acab pov because my role is ate related and therefore staff is mafia, therefore it was probably a buff due to it being ate
wait but it was an ate warning by ate policy ergo it wasn’t a buff

tldr: acab and i’m gay

Violet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:04 am I got unexpected trouble on weekend, but now I am fully able to play. I will analyze every post, every player and every vote that has been cast. You can expect results later today

every, bold

ping on this. I smell overcooked pledge.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:59 am

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:53 am chet what’s ur read on me/dizzzy/boq

oh, I realized chet is me, not general chat, lol, you used it before

don't have flip reads started

on you, as a player committed to reads, I want to see reads. I'll sus you on principle, till then.
on dizzy, they fretted an awful lot EOD and almost pushed low-hanging fruit, can't tell yet if genuine lost-at-sea townie or wolf that wasn't on a clean vote/read
boq good vibes, though less active rn.

okay, what’s your stance on twinks?

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:02 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:59 am

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:53 am chet what’s ur read on me/dizzzy/boq

oh, I realized chet is me, not general chat, lol, you used it before

don't have flip reads started

on you, as a player committed to reads, I want to see reads. I'll sus you on principle, till then.
on dizzy, they fretted an awful lot EOD and almost pushed low-hanging fruit, can't tell yet if genuine lost-at-sea townie or wolf that wasn't on a clean vote/read
boq good vibes, though less active rn.

okay, what’s your stance on twinks?

Dunno what that is.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:03 am

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:02 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:59 am

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:53 am chet what’s ur read on me/dizzzy/boq

oh, I realized chet is me, not general chat, lol, you used it before

don't have flip reads started

on you, as a player committed to reads, I want to see reads. I'll sus you on principle, till then.
on dizzy, they fretted an awful lot EOD and almost pushed low-hanging fruit, can't tell yet if genuine lost-at-sea townie or wolf that wasn't on a clean vote/read
boq good vibes, though less active rn.

okay, what’s your stance on twinks?

Dunno what that is.

you’re missing out

gn fr

you should research twinks

My lunch break has concluded. Later

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:28 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:53 am kinda interested in epi not snapping at Lucy

Can you elaborate on this? I don't recall what you mean.

I don't recall either

I'm also partially chalking it up to you playing this game a little differently than how my mental image of you would play it, which I'm currently chalking up to you mellowing with old age over you being a wolf (this may change but I don't really feel it)

Violet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:29 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:49 pm Flavor? Never heard of her!

In the night! In alphabetical order:

@MartinGG99 has died. They flip town.

@Ruri has died. They flip town.


In addition, @Jackofhearts2005 has been warned by the AtE Policy for the following post:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:26 pm I can barely fucking dribble a basketball get out of here with that shit.

Be careful owo

Flips will update after approximately 24 hours.

D2 starts in 10 minutes and is 48 hours long. Day action deadline is one hour before eod.

There will be an announcement for a d2 event coming soon.

Spoiler: show

@ Boquise
@ Dolby
@ Dyslexicon
@ Epignosis
@ Jackofhearts2005
@ lucy
@ Moonwink
@ Ricochet
@ Spacedaisy
@ TonyStarkPrime
@ Violet

Can anyone more familiar with the site confirm if violations against AtE policy are brought up in the thread like this? At first I didn't think about it, but considering the theme of the game, this might be related to a some in game ability.

Honestly, I think it’s an in game ability.

i have strong reason to think it's an in game ability (i didn't do it)

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:05 am gn fr

you should research twinks

lucy do you enjoy towning or wolfing more

If it’s not an in game ability, player base agrees that the warning on Jack was uncalled for. Get rekt, mods.

Why should I not blast Dolby right now?

blast dolby rn

let the game move along

If I die making a shot and the player I say I’m blasting lives, that’s a green peek on them, fyi.

Game is probably a little bastard so grain of salt but it’s still a green peek.

Also, I’m not shooting just yet. On the off chance Dolby is a wolf and the mafia has a daykill wowee.

Fuck it’s let’s goooooooo

Good luck have fun happy anniversary o7

@Jackofhearts2005 has died. He flips TOWN.

He has taken @Dolby with him. Dolby flips MAFIA.

Their manner of death does not allow for their roles to be inherited. Their flips are as follows:

Jack flip:

**LiGhT rOlE mAdNeSs**

You’re my favorite TS meme, congratulations. You have a few things you can do:

Compulsive D2 Loyal Desperado (kind of): On d2 you must shoot someone. It’s mandatory. If they are town, you will die. If they are mafia, you will both die. Fun? Fun!

Godfather, kinda sorta: you will check as aligned with town to any parity cop checks. If you are role copped you will return as “lol.” If you are flavor copped you will return as “lultsp.” If you are alignment checked you will return as no feedback.

You also have a one shot jailkeep–protect, roleblock, and prevent any non-factional actions from targeting your target.

What could go wrong!

You are town

Dolby:

**Toxic Personality**

You’re, like, so toxic. Just a raging cesspool of toxicity. Literally just so toxic. OMG. I cannot even with you. Anyways, starting night two you’ll be told of one player that targeted you the previous night and you’ll roleblock them (eg: nanook targets you n1. You are told that on n2 and block nanook). This does not block lethal actions. Being roleblocked or otherwise prevented from acting and not being targeted will return the same “no feedback” result.

You are mafia

D2 continues!

Any votes placed on Jack or Dolby at eod will be counted as no votes

tsp told people to shoot a wolf that means he's rand wolf

Nice show, awesome! Thank you for your service, Jack.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:49 am tsp told people to shoot a wolf that means he's rand wolf

Are you the bussing type if wolf?

I have that image, at the least

Heck yea <3

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:19 pm

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:44 pm @Epignosis I still wanna form, like, a group of people to work with that includes you and SpaceDaisy, because I do genuinely believe that at most one of you is wolf (worst case scenario), if any at all (best case scenario). Do you have a pair of people that doesn't include us three that probably aren't scum together?

For future reference, mentioning me isn't necessary because I prefer to read the thread in chronological context, so I'll get to your post when I arrive at it, promise. I know you (and lucy below) don't know that about me, so I wanted to respond as soon as I could.

To answer your question, my mind doesn't work like that, and certainly not this early. Although I'm not altogether sure what you're asking for, since why would you want to work with me and Spacedaisy if one of us is bad? What does "work with" mean here?

Alright, got'cha on that first point.

Regarding the second, what I mean by "work with" is listening to and helping to push any theories you've got on the game unconditionally. And the reason why I'd want to work with you and Spacedaisy even if one of you is bad is because if there ISN'T mafia among us three, mafia will have to kill one of the three of us eventually since we'd be unconditionally working with each other and not questioning each other's alignment. It's similar to what I was doing with Dizzy D1 -- I tried just calling them unconditionally town and encouraged people to do the same in hopes to bait mafia to kill them N1.

Speaking of which...

@Dyslexicon Are you lowposting now because of me? :3

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:56 pm vote: moonwink

Pocket attempt denied. :P

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:38 am

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:16 pm Sorry that I wasn't around at EoD -- I overslept.

With that said, I'm kinda glad I missed EoD if it was always gonna be between TH and Lucy. I wouldn't have had the energy to fight for them outside of saying that this was a bad move.

Like, even /I/ would have been better a yeet than either of those two.

What would you have pushed for, say your presence and energy would have been there.

I probably would've taken the lazy route and went for Ruri since there was momentum there and because I didn't trust that we'd get enough out of them later on to get a more accurate read than we had D1. Basically, would've just resolving and non-resolvable slot sooner rather than later. Buuuut a Vig probably took care of that for us. <3

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:38 am

Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:13 pm I told y'all. :P

Moonwink wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:37 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:59 pm null-scum lean on dizzy

TripleHaven wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:27 pm Don't know what to think about dyslexicon showboating. I townread them at first for it but now I'm starting to think it's just a playstyle thing.

I've only played with them once or twice.

With that kind of talk, Martin's gonna become the most likely nightkill N1 instead of Dizzy if he's town!

Also,
[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

was pinged for a moment that out of no flavor info on the two deaths, Moon assumed Martin was the mafia target.
then lucy also read it as most logical, so perhaps Moon assumed likewise? ech

I mean, do you think a VIG would have shot Martin last night even though Martin was townread by practically EVERYONE in the game? I mean, I get that sometime people go rogue and make crazy shots that go against what town thinks, but I don't get the vibe that we've got anyone like that in this game! :3

im still gay

Thank god for Jackofmyheart

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:14 pm I did not submit an action successfully whoops

Did anything else happen to you at night?

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

Wouldn't that just entirely depend on who the mafia are? Different people have different play styles.

Or let me ask another way: What makes you think this in particular?

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:49 am @ilario what's your stance on twinks?

I can't believe that you haven't asked me about this. I have many years of experience.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:53 am chet what’s ur read on me/dizzzy/boq

How is your scum lean on me coming along?

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:08 pm@Dyslexicon Are you lowposting now because of me? :3

No. I've been at work all day. There was a thing.
Anyway, planned to not post a lot today and just do my necessary part, because I'm personally just not very motivated. Doesn't mean I can't have a good time. I am, however, a little bit more motivated by seeing a mafia flip.

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:16 pmI mean, do you think a VIG would have shot Martin last night even though Martin was townread by practically EVERYONE in the game? I mean, I get that sometime people go rogue and make crazy shots that go against what town thinks, but I don't get the vibe that we've got anyone like that in this game! :3

@Epignosis You talked about my TripleHaven vote. I didn't know who to vote. Nothing felt good with no information. Felt it in my bones that I was wrong in the end and said so much. Kind of hate it. That's kind of how it's been for me the last games, and why I breaked from mafia. Feels like all of it is just guesswork, mostly.

I take umbrage with "blaming" people who voted for a mischop. Especially on D1. Depending on if any mafia was actually in danger at all, there's no pattern in there being lots of mafia just piling on a town about to go over for fun. They don't like to get caught red handed. It all depends of course. And looking into all votes is good and fine.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:33 pm Well shit. That was fast.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:41 pm Nah, I rescind that vote. I think I'm misreading Dolby something fierce. [VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

I can easily see a town motivation behind all of this, for what it's worth. From the same school as Epignosis, for the Syndicate folks in the crowd.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:27 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

Wouldn't that just entirely depend on who the mafia are? Different people have different play styles.

Or let me ask another way: What makes you think this in particular?

I return to my general hunch that a mafioso in this environment would be more apt to make a bold play on Day 1 than normal.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:42 pm Nah, that's not the way this works. You all get the privilege of my thoughts even if they're wrong. I don't care. Two shakes please.

Town

Going through Dolby's ISO.
It's probably a lot of "looks slightly good for this person" or "looks not good for this person". But that's all meh, and could easily be wrong. But I do have the thoughts and maybe I'll say something about that later.

One thing that sticks out to me is how serious and relatively much space Dolby used to talk and ask about me and Rico's fake kill. It looks to me like he really wanted to give the impression that he bought it and believed it. I think it fits Dolby's player style and make sure to show that like this in the specific case that he is mafia with Rico and already know that it is fake.

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pm hey Dizzy

1. has that kill gone through yet ?
2. when is the deadline for it?
3. is ricochet still around?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:35 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:33 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pm hey Dizzy

1. has that kill gone through yet ?
2. when is the deadline for it?
3. is ricochet still around?

Do you have suggestions? He'll be around

still in catchup mode. don't really have suggestions for who rather as much as who not but we do match to an extent anyway. would argue towards one of the three wagons just on a basis of them having votes, though i don't see any of the three as having mutual exclusivity towards each other

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:36 pm i want to create some game theory tables but i don't know how long mapping would take or what considerations i should have in a dual control kill setup

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:07 pm tbh it's hard for me to break out of the two yeet mentality that i set within myself 30 minutes ago

Couple this with Dolby being critical about Rico's posts, but never pushing there.
Rico's mention of Dolby also doesn't hit me right in the gut. Especially early on when he says Dolby is "boasting" and asks if low-posting is normal for him. Characterising others as "boasting" is kind of a negative jab that usually you are less willing to throw around if you don't know another player and you don't know their alignment, while that kind of talk is more normal among mafia teammates in my experience.

And I just have a bad gut feeling about Rico. That's all.

For my own sanity, although it should be obvious, this may all be wrong. But that's where my head is right now.

I probably have other thoughts, but I'll wait.

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:27 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

Wouldn't that just entirely depend on who the mafia are? Different people have different play styles.

Or let me ask another way: What makes you think this in particular?

I return to my general hunch that a mafioso in this environment would be more apt to make a bold play on Day 1 than normal.

I don't understand why or what you mean by that exactly, but that is quite ok. Whatever floats your boat rn tbh.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:22 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:19 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:55 am Day 1 Mafia in a vacuum is Spacedaisy, Dyslexicon, and Ricochet.

Agree.

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

I am struggling to reconcile these two positions.

Reads are happening. They'll come out when they're ready.

@Moonwink Why are you so sure I'm town and stuff? It's bit off-putting lol

@lucy You should probably catch mafia today, or tell me if I already did. Or else I'm probably going to tunnel you before you can tunnel me.

The game being insanely slow actually fits my general attitude towards mafia right now. So thank you for that.