Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Day 2]
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:04 pm
I am not playing the money game.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Some say the only way to win the money game is not to play.Snow Dog wrote:I am not playing the money game.
Winning proverb!thellama73 wrote:Some say the only way to win the money game is not to play.Snow Dog wrote:I am not playing the money game.
I'm off to take Spongebob in search of tricks or treats. Not easy to do under the sea with a sponge.Epignosis wrote:Tonight's post will be delayed, as three foul demons from the darkest pits of hell will be pestering the living for goodies. Be advised that Night closes at 7:32pm EST.
I've played with him in DW (and I think another game or two but I can't remember what), which I know he is passionate about (I mean, hey, DT in the avatar is never wrongMovingPictures07 wrote:Actually, I've thought about this a bit more, and I'm not sure I'm getting the passionate, genuine civvie vibes from zeek this game. His playstyle seems absolutely different, and I don't like how he essentially "randomized" on Day 2.
Yeah, I wonder about that too, so that's why I'm not jumping at the case. But I am curious what he's thinking suspect-wise.nijuukyugou wrote:Happy Halloween, everyone
RIP, Hedge! My gut was right. And your owl pictures always make me laugh really loud in inappropriate places.
Lots of suspicions going around today. I was looking at Boogs on Day 1, and I also haven't really changed my mind much about him. The cheerleading for Team Ganon, as LizKeen mentioned, seems too..."hey hey look I'm a Civ!" And his eyeball towards Liz for pointing it out doesn't really help the case.
I've played with him in DW (and I think another game or two but I can't remember what), which I know he is passionate about (I mean, hey, DT in the avatar is never wrongMovingPictures07 wrote:Actually, I've thought about this a bit more, and I'm not sure I'm getting the passionate, genuine civvie vibes from zeek this game. His playstyle seems absolutely different, and I don't like how he essentially "randomized" on Day 2.), so I wonder if the fact that he says he knows "nothing about Zelda" has to do with his playstyle this game? I will agree - his behavior is different from what I've seen before.
So you no longer stand by your vote for Llama or do you still?sabie12 wrote:Well I'm suspicious of the Hedge voters. I didn't see a whole lot there that pinged me about her and she did turn up civ so I'll be paying attention to them for the next lynch. I just need some time to look over everything. Too much going on with halloween and such right now.
Well this is a bother. I thought the periods were ending around 9 EST.Epignosis wrote:Tonight's post will be delayed, as three foul demons from the darkest pits of hell will be pestering the living for goodies. Be advised that Night closes at 7:32pm EST.
I agree with giving more of a look at Hedge voters. It just seemed so drummed-up to me at the time, even before Hedge flipped civ.sabie12 wrote:Well I'm suspicious of the Hedge voters. I didn't see a whole lot there that pinged me about her and she did turn up civ so I'll be paying attention to them for the next lynch. I just need some time to look over everything. Too much going on with halloween and such right now.
S~V~S wrote:Russ, this was MPs first post about Hedge; he referenced Splints suspicions.
So this is saying MP jumped on splints' suspicion and not the other way around, right?MovingPictures07 wrote:Yay no death!
Nice job, those who worked on the riddle.![]()
Very good question, sir! I'm not honestly quite sure yet, I'll have to think about it myself. However, I did wonder if there was a push to lynch you over Sabie due to saving a teammate OR whether a push to lynch both of you could have been bandwagoned by some baddies.Made wrote:Yo MP,
If you feel that d2 shouldn't begin with you, where do you feel it should begin?
I also wonder if splints is onto something with Hedge's posts being all jokey too, that was a good point.
If so I think a harder look needs to be taken at MP. However, I still think the suspicion itself was a little out there, and I have been getting bad vibes from fingers, so I stand by that suspicion too.
This is Splints, 1:15 Tuesday
Linki, MP is Alexfingersplints wrote:hedgeowl' bothered me more then sabie's. Sabie has otherwise contributed. Hedgie has not.thellama73 wrote:I don't know, I always find Sabie's "oh gosh, how does this work? I don't know what I'm doing!" schtick suspicious, but she has done it in a bunch of games now, so I don't know if it means anything.
Yeah I don't know whether it was a bluff, but it was never even a mediocre argument.thellama73 wrote:Okay, I reread Zeek. Tow posts stick out to me. Nothing major, but two I noticed.
The whole "I'm never mafia so I can't be mafia this time" can be a cheeky little ploy that amounts to a sort of double bluff. I've used it before. Stood out to me.zeek wrote:I voted Dragon, just cause I'd be more scared of a Dragon than anything else.
Everyone trusts me, all the time, because I've never been mafia (:(), so I am not upset I haven't been included...
...I'm mad instead
From yesterday:Snow Dog wrote:Dom, are you cross with me?Dom wrote:second
hmphSnow Dog wrote:Dom wrote:WhySnow Dog wrote:Dom, any thoughts?
Mm needs to be stopped
I will tell you why.
1.Haven't seen you around much
2.I value you input.
Well Llama and MetalMarsh MUST be stopped.
And why must they be stopped?
I am seeing a different Dom here than normal. Anyone agree? Am I way off here?
Who knows, he could be acting weird cuz he's bad. He hasn't contributed a whole lot IMO. But then, every time I try to lynch someone for not contributing, they seem to be good. So I agree that he's being weird, Snowy, but there's probably better candidates for my vote today.Russtifinko wrote:I also think Dom has been acting different than I'm used to, but I don't think it's in a suspicious way.
I'm not sure how to address this really. I'm a big Doctor Who geek and I've never played Zelda. That's why I don't seem as passionate.MovingPictures07 wrote:Actually, I've thought about this a bit more, and I'm not sure I'm getting the passionate, genuine civvie vibes from zeek this game. His playstyle seems absolutely different, and I don't like how he essentially "randomized" on Day 2.
Fair enough.zeek wrote:I'm not sure how to address this really. I'm a big Doctor Who geek and I've never played Zelda. That's why I don't seem as passionate.MovingPictures07 wrote:Actually, I've thought about this a bit more, and I'm not sure I'm getting the passionate, genuine civvie vibes from zeek this game. His playstyle seems absolutely different, and I don't like how he essentially "randomized" on Day 2.
As for my vote, AGAIN, I had five minutes. We've all had those times I'm sure. What would you have preferred? A self vote? Jumping on the Hedgeowl express all the way to lynching another civ? I did the only fair thing I could without knowing what had happened.
Honestly, these suspicions seem contrived to me.
I know what you mean; it's still a bit early, but I'm feeling lost in which direction to take, even if I have a few general ideas. Look forward to future input.zeek wrote:I think we're lynching civs for not much. It's early of course and there will be more to work with in the future, but I'm going on gut tomorrow. Thinking Made had slipped up got me nowhere so I'll reread and see who pings me.
Based on a random drawing:Epignosis wrote:Let's play money making game.
-10 rupees
-10 rupees
-10 rupees
Choose first, second, or third (bold in the thread). If you are with Ganon, you can choose to play, with the group losing or winning accordingly. If you are with Hyrule, you may only risk your individual rupees (so you must have ten to play).
You did. I neglected to mention it at the time.Boogs wrote:Epignosis: The moon voters like myself don't get any advantage tonight like the Eale voters publically were told did last night??
Epignosis wrote:The Triforce of Power
So...it is power you desire. Very well.
Describe to the Host the greatest Night power you have ever had...or the one you always wish you had.
“Is that all?” you ask? Ha! Of course not, fool!
In your private message containing the above, you may choose (or choose not) to grasp at the Triforce of Power and win it for yourself.
To attempt this feat, you must state who is going to be lynched on Day 3.
And then make it happen.
Yeah, I agree with your point. I knew what you meant until you said Aragorn; he was good through and through.Snow Dog wrote:Regarding Dom, Rusti, if just seems too obvious. If he was bad he'd seem more good if you know what I mean. Like Aragorn.
I don't get this strategy. As far as I know, the goodies do not need the Triforce to win; just whoever gets it wins automatically as an indy.Made wrote:Epignosis wrote:The Triforce of Power
So...it is power you desire. Very well.
Describe to the Host the greatest Night power you have ever had...or the one you always wish you had.
“Is that all?” you ask? Ha! Of course not, fool!
In your private message containing the above, you may choose (or choose not) to grasp at the Triforce of Power and win it for yourself.
To attempt this feat, you must state who is going to be lynched on Day 3.
And then make it happen.
Based on this, I think it would be in our best intrest to not kill Zeek tonight.
Likewise i think persuing Sabie, LLama, and MM would also be a mistake.
While yes, they are our top suspects (based on vote received/general night time consistence) anyways, But Mafia needs the piece of power to win the game, without it, they can't win the game.
I refuse to vote any of the above people unless
1. Someone makes a obvious baddie slip/accidentally outs
2. 5 people say that the above strategy is straight up stupid.
I am?Made wrote: While yes, they are our top suspects (based on vote received/general night time consistence)
I would like to know why you think that. I'm curious.Russtifinko wrote:Also, RIP MP.
It's super worrisome to me that Link's sword is already powerful enough to kill, seeing as it gets upgraded throughout the game. I thought we had another night before kills started coming in.
I've self-voted and taken votes from Dom. I'm disregarding those right now.Russtifinko wrote:Oh never mind, they do have to acquire all 3 pieces. So Made, your post kind of makes sense.
However, it seems to me like they don't win just by getting it; they probably win by killing us all, and since if you die someone else can get your Triforce, them getting it would just be a necessary side effect of us all being dead.
Linki: Why I think what? And now that you mention it, why is Made deciding who our suspects are, and why are you a top one. Have you even taken a vote yet?
That sounds reasonable.Russtifinko wrote:Because bombs and arrows cost 40 rupees apiece, and based on how many rupees it's been possible to get so far, I figured that an active goodie would probably get there today or tomorrow.
No, but Baddies do, and by voting to kill someone who wasn't a main suspect n2 and d2, we reduce the chance that they get someone they predicted. They need the triforce to win, so lynching someone who's been off the radar is in our best interest.Russtifinko wrote: <snip>
I don't get this strategy. As far as I know, the goodies do not need the Triforce to win; just whoever gets it wins automatically as an indy.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I am?Made wrote: While yes, they are our top suspects (based on vote received/general night time consistence)![]()
RIP MP.
Disregarding the point of the lynch to catch a baddie, wouldn't we be better off anyway? If say zeek is a baddie, it isn't likely that his teammates would put his name down and sarifice him. Even if they do, I don't think the Hyrulians would be the only ones to put his name down.Made wrote:Note: the above post does not reflect my current opinion of Zeek, or anyone else listed above.
One was a self-vote and one was a Dom vote whose reasoning was "MM must be stopped".Made wrote:you, and Sabie recieved 2 votes, Llama received 3. It's more than most others.
From what i understand they need to kill all 8 guardians and collect the pieces of the triforce, so hypothetically, they could win even if town out numbered them 6-1, which is why we need to prioritize them not getting the triforce.Russtifinko wrote:Oh never mind, they do have to acquire all 3 pieces. So Made, your post kind of makes sense.
However, it seems to me like they don't win just by getting it; they probably win by killing us all, and since if you die someone else can get your Triforce, them getting it would just be a necessary side effect of us all being dead.
Linki: Why I think what? And now that you mention it, why is Made deciding who our suspects are, and why are you a top one. Have you even taken a vote yet?
Good point, I'm not sure how duplicate entrees would be handled.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Disregarding the point of the lynch to catch a baddie, wouldn't we be better off anyway? If say zeek is a baddie, it isn't likely that his teammates would put his name down and sarifice him. Even if they do, I don't think the Hyrulians would be the only ones to put his name down.Made wrote:Note: the above post does not reflect my current opinion of Zeek, or anyone else listed above.
If you've got any ideas about someone else though, I'm willing to listen.
There are only 6 guardians though, but we may be fortunate enough to not have lost one yet.Made wrote:From what i understand they need to kill all 8 guardians and collect the pieces of the triforce, so hypothetically, they could win even if town out numbered them 6-1, which is why we need to prioritize them not getting the triforce.Russtifinko wrote:Oh never mind, they do have to acquire all 3 pieces. So Made, your post kind of makes sense.
However, it seems to me like they don't win just by getting it; they probably win by killing us all, and since if you die someone else can get your Triforce, them getting it would just be a necessary side effect of us all being dead.
Linki: Why I think what? And now that you mention it, why is Made deciding who our suspects are, and why are you a top one. Have you even taken a vote yet?
Just so we're on the same page, I'm referring to the Hyrulians as baddies and Ganon's army as civvies. I know it's counterintuitive, but it makes sense in this game.Made wrote:linki-Good point, I'm not sure how duplicate entrees would be handled.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Disregarding the point of the lynch to catch a baddie, wouldn't we be better off anyway? If say zeek is a baddie, it isn't likely that his teammates would put his name down and sarifice him. Even if they do, I don't think the Hyrulians would be the only ones to put his name down.Made wrote:Note: the above post does not reflect my current opinion of Zeek, or anyone else listed above.
If you've got any ideas about someone else though, I'm willing to listen.
Still, the point remains that the baddie team does have 3 opportunities to grab the piece of power, and therefore three different lynch predictions, I couldn't see a suicidal move this early in the game but it's still interesting.
As for the "point of the lynch is to catch the baddies"; just a thought, if we prevent the goodies from achieving their objective, do we even need to lynch them?
Yeah, baddies (or goodies) Hyrule, and Ganon are civvies (never to be referred to as baddies)Metalmarsh89 wrote:There are only 6 guardians though, but we may be fortunate enough to not have lost one yet. I thought there were 8 for some reason. Point still stands, they could potentially win 8-1Made wrote:From what i understand they need to kill all 8 guardians and collect the pieces of the triforce, so hypothetically, they could win even if town out numbered them 6-1, which is why we need to prioritize them not getting the triforce.Russtifinko wrote:Oh never mind, they do have to acquire all 3 pieces. So Made, your post kind of makes sense.
However, it seems to me like they don't win just by getting it; they probably win by killing us all, and since if you die someone else can get your Triforce, them getting it would just be a necessary side effect of us all being dead.
Linki: Why I think what? And now that you mention it, why is Made deciding who our suspects are, and why are you a top one. Have you even taken a vote yet?
Just so we're on the same page, I'm referring to the Hyrulians as baddies and Ganon's army as civvies. I know it's counterintuitive, but it makes sense in this game.Made wrote:linki-Good point, I'm not sure how duplicate entrees would be handled.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Disregarding the point of the lynch to catch a baddie, wouldn't we be better off anyway? If say zeek is a baddie, it isn't likely that his teammates would put his name down and sarifice him. Even if they do, I don't think the Hyrulians would be the only ones to put his name down.Made wrote:Note: the above post does not reflect my current opinion of Zeek, or anyone else listed above.
If you've got any ideas about someone else though, I'm willing to listen.
Still, the point remains that the baddie team does have 3 opportunities to grab the piece of power, and therefore three different lynch predictions, I couldn't see a suicidal move this early in the game but it's still interesting.
As for the "point of the lynch is to catch the baddies"; just a thought, if we prevent the goodies from achieving their objective, do we even need to lynch them?
Well, not much I can address with something reading funny to you.Made wrote:fingersplints wrote:shit sorry hedgie ;( I really thought I was onto something :/
why?Made wrote:Fwiw, I probably would of persued MP and Splints yesterday.
Also two of the votes for Llama, the second highest vote getter, were "no yous" so....This post just read funny to me. When i said peruse, i didn't mean vote, just the kind of points i would of liked to of brought up.fingersplints wrote:^this.thellama73 wrote:You know who else I have my eye on? Bass_the_Clever. No posts on Day 2 so far. I keep forgetting he's playing, and I don't trust people I forget about.
Bass, come out of the woodwork and say something about the game.
Also, to address the comments earlier, I am not on a baddie team with sabie. I have no idea about her at this point. In fact she is doing things I find suspicious in hedgeowl. I just feel stronger about hedgie at this point. Although I really don't like her last comments that A Person only had two posts. ofc he wasn't posting a lot that's why he was replaced.
Russtifinko wrote:I agree with giving more of a look at Hedge voters. It just seemed so drummed-up to me at the time, even before Hedge flipped civ.sabie12 wrote:Well I'm suspicious of the Hedge voters. I didn't see a whole lot there that pinged me about her and she did turn up civ so I'll be paying attention to them for the next lynch. I just need some time to look over everything. Too much going on with halloween and such right now.
S~V~S wrote:Russ, this was MPs first post about Hedge; he referenced Splints suspicions.
So this is saying MP jumped on splints' suspicion and not the other way around, right?MovingPictures07 wrote:Yay no death!
Nice job, those who worked on the riddle.![]()
Very good question, sir! I'm not honestly quite sure yet, I'll have to think about it myself. However, I did wonder if there was a push to lynch you over Sabie due to saving a teammate OR whether a push to lynch both of you could have been bandwagoned by some baddies.Made wrote:Yo MP,
If you feel that d2 shouldn't begin with you, where do you feel it should begin?
I also wonder if splints is onto something with Hedge's posts being all jokey too, that was a good point.
If so I think a harder look needs to be taken at MP. However, I still think the suspicion itself was a little out there, and I have been getting bad vibes from fingers, so I stand by that suspicion too.
This is Splints, 1:15 Tuesday
Linki, MP is Alexfingersplints wrote:hedgeowl' bothered me more then sabie's. Sabie has otherwise contributed. Hedgie has not.thellama73 wrote:I don't know, I always find Sabie's "oh gosh, how does this work? I don't know what I'm doing!" schtick suspicious, but she has done it in a bunch of games now, so I don't know if it means anything.
...darn it, never mind. I don't even remember what I was gonna say any more.fingersplints wrote:Russ, was there supposed to be more to this? Your quote from SVS has nothing after it.
Russtifinko wrote:I agree with giving more of a look at Hedge voters. It just seemed so drummed-up to me at the time, even before Hedge flipped civ.sabie12 wrote:Well I'm suspicious of the Hedge voters. I didn't see a whole lot there that pinged me about her and she did turn up civ so I'll be paying attention to them for the next lynch. I just need some time to look over everything. Too much going on with halloween and such right now.
S~V~S wrote:Russ, this was MPs first post about Hedge; he referenced Splints suspicions.
So this is saying MP jumped on splints' suspicion and not the other way around, right?MovingPictures07 wrote:Yay no death!
Nice job, those who worked on the riddle.![]()
Very good question, sir! I'm not honestly quite sure yet, I'll have to think about it myself. However, I did wonder if there was a push to lynch you over Sabie due to saving a teammate OR whether a push to lynch both of you could have been bandwagoned by some baddies.Made wrote:Yo MP,
If you feel that d2 shouldn't begin with you, where do you feel it should begin?
I also wonder if splints is onto something with Hedge's posts being all jokey too, that was a good point.
If so I think a harder look needs to be taken at MP. However, I still think the suspicion itself was a little out there, and I have been getting bad vibes from fingers, so I stand by that suspicion too.
This is Splints, 1:15 Tuesday
Linki, MP is Alexfingersplints wrote:hedgeowl' bothered me more then sabie's. Sabie has otherwise contributed. Hedgie has not.thellama73 wrote:I don't know, I always find Sabie's "oh gosh, how does this work? I don't know what I'm doing!" schtick suspicious, but she has done it in a bunch of games now, so I don't know if it means anything.
He was. But when the hobbits first met him Sam thought that because he looked foul he seemed fair. On the other hand if Aragorn had been evil then he would have looked good.Russtifinko wrote:Yeah, I agree with your point. I knew what you meant until you said Aragorn; he was good through and through.Snow Dog wrote:Regarding Dom, Rusti, if just seems too obvious. If he was bad he'd seem more good if you know what I mean. Like Aragorn.![]()