The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:35 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Wah wah wah I wish somebody would do something about all the non-participants making Mafia not fun for me wah wah wah

*votes Epi*
Somebody did do something about that
Yeah, he did.

Thanks for that btw MP

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:39 pm**

Well that blows....

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:42 pm**

Well boo! Does this mean I am a good enough Mafia player now to be a threat? I have never been killed Night 1. And, if my memory is correct, I've been nightkilled two other times.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:42 pm**

Gonna pull a poor man's MP

YO GMAN
Why did you vote for EPH. IF you don't give an answer--a non8ball answer--you''ll be put on the top of my i vote for you if no one better comes up list (there's a slot for that on my spreadsheet!)

AYYY DH,
Who would you of voted for yesterday had you not checked to see if votes were changeable?

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:44 pm**

So Scotty was an Xtacle, who didn't approve of Long Con's plan.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:46 pm**

Made wrote:Gonna pull a poor man's MP

YO GMAN
Why did you vote for EPH. IF you don't give an answer--a non8ball answer--you''ll be put on the top of my i vote for you if no one better comes up list (there's a slot for that on my spreadsheet!)

AYYY DH,
Who would you of voted for yesterday had you not checked to see if votes were changeable?

You because you said Dick Grayson.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:48 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
Made wrote:Gonna pull a poor man's MP

YO GMAN
Why did you vote for EPH. IF you don't give an answer--a non8ball answer--you''ll be put on the top of my i vote for you if no one better comes up list (there's a slot for that on my spreadsheet!)

AYYY DH,
Who would you of voted for yesterday had you not checked to see if votes were changeable?
You because you said Dick Grayson.

I didn't say Dick Grayson, I said NightWing, there's a difference. Jason Todd was NightWing for a little bit Fyi

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:49 pm**

Epignosis wrote:So Scotty was an Xtacle, who didn't approve of Long Con's plan.

Could you repeat that in stupid people?

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:50 pm**

Made wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Made wrote:Gonna pull a poor man's MP

YO GMAN
Why did you vote for EPH. IF you don't give an answer--a non8ball answer--you''ll be put on the top of my i vote for you if no one better comes up list (there's a slot for that on my spreadsheet!)

AYYY DH,
Who would you of voted for yesterday had you not checked to see if votes were changeable?
You because you said Dick Grayson.
I didn't say Dick Grayson, I said NightWing, there's a difference. Jason Todd was NightWing for a little bit Fyi

Also not Jason Todd.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:50 pm**

Made wrote:
Epignosis wrote:So Scotty was an Xtacle, who didn't approve of Long Con's plan.
Could you repeat that in stupid people?

I could, but I don't utter phrases inside the bodies of people.

That's weird.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:51 pm**

I want to lynch timmer.

I want to lynch Cookie.

I want to lynch Long Con.

Those are my three top picks in order.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:53 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
Made wrote:
Epignosis wrote:So Scotty was an Xtacle, who didn't approve of Long Con's plan.
Could you repeat that in stupid people?
I could, but I don't utter phrases inside the bodies of people.

That's weird.

No the person, the language silly. I'm learning english atm tho, am i correct in translating the above as you think that all the Xtacle voted LC due to his giant orange xtacle themed post?

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:56 pm**

Stan killed Scotty.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:56 pm**

Made wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Made wrote:
Epignosis wrote:So Scotty was an Xtacle, who didn't approve of Long Con's plan.
Could you repeat that in stupid people?
I could, but I don't utter phrases inside the bodies of people.

That's weird.
No the person, the language silly. I'm learning english atm tho, am i correct in translating the above as you think that all the Xtacle voted LC due to his giant orange xtacle themed post?

I think he means that since Scotty's head exploded he was a Xtacle. And due to his vocal in thread opposition to LC's plan, he did not approve.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:59 pm**

Nah, I'm rethinking this.

Over dark rum.

Elohcin was killed on Night 1?

This tells me the killers are new fish. Elohcin has never been killed Night 1 that I can remember. Nobody ever feels threatened by her. She gets lynched for stupid reasons. Last game she played, she was silenced and got lynched anyway.

No. This is the work of newer fish.

Roxy, vote a new person, would ya?

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:00 pm**

Epignosis wrote:Nah, I'm rethinking this.

Over dark rum.

Elohcin was killed on Night 1?

This tells me the killers are new fish. Elohcin has never been killed Night 1 that I can remember. Nobody ever feels threatened by her. She gets lynched for stupid reasons. Last game she played, she was silenced and got lynched anyway.

No. This is the work of newer fish.

Roxy, vote a new person, would ya?

This is only Cookie's second game on this site.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:01 pm**

Alright peeps,

I've got friends over for the next day but after that it is time to get real okurr? ?

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:03 pm**

Cookie
Hamburger Boy
Ika
Mac's Mom
Saberfish
Sig
TinyBubbles

Seven new people who would not know the dynamics.

This will be my focus.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:03 pm**

Oh, and timmer.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:08 pm**

Long Con wrote:
Cookie wrote:Can anybody explain to me what the deal is with people using adverbs? I don't understand why it makes someone appear bad.
I don't suspect all adverbs, but I recognize that they can be red flags.

You can "just say something" or you can "craft a sentence". Civvies aren't trying to deceive everyone, so they are free to just say things. Baddies are trying to deceive everyone, so they may tend more toward crafting sentences. "Trying to sound Civvie", is one way of putting it.

Here's how I see the Scotty adverb thing - when he says "I honestly don't think you're on Crews' team", it feels like he's crafting it. An honest man doesn't need to tell everyone how honest he is.

Oh. Thanks for this explanation. That makes a lot of sense.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:10 pm**

Also, further proof the adverb thing is crap

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:11 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:Also, further proof the adverb thing is crap

Says the guy who got lynched early on in Watchmen and is somehow now an expert on tone.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:12 pm**

Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Also, further proof the adverb thing is crap
Says the guy who got lynched early on in Watchmen and is somehow now an expert on tone.

"Early"

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:15 pm**

Epignosis wrote:Cookie
Hamburger Boy
Ika
Mac's Mom
Saberfish
Sig
TinyBubbles

Seven new people who would not know the dynamics.

This will be my focus.

Why would that matter when Team KillFace has BTSC? Wouldn't a new player be likely to ask their experienced regulars where to place the shot?

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:16 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Nah, I'm rethinking this.

Over dark rum.

Elohcin was killed on Night 1?

This tells me the killers are new fish. Elohcin has never been killed Night 1 that I can remember. Nobody ever feels threatened by her. She gets lynched for stupid reasons. Last game she played, she was silenced and got lynched anyway.

No. This is the work of newer fish.

Roxy, vote a new person, would ya?
This is only Cookie's second game on this site.

But... I lasted until like.. day 8 or something as mafia soo... The NK doesn't suggest anything about me.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:18 pm**

Cookie wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Nah, I'm rethinking this.

Over dark rum.

Elohcin was killed on Night 1?

This tells me the killers are new fish. Elohcin has never been killed Night 1 that I can remember. Nobody ever feels threatened by her. She gets lynched for stupid reasons. Last game she played, she was silenced and got lynched anyway.

No. This is the work of newer fish.

Roxy, vote a new person, would ya?
This is only Cookie's second game on this site.
But... I lasted until like.. day 8 or something as mafia soo... The NK doesn't suggest anything about me.

Doesn't it though?

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:19 pm**

Either the mafia didn't think very hard on which player they should kill or they killed someone they thought had a threatening role. Did Elo give off any indication to what her role was or how she felt about it?

Are we reading too far into the NK?

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:20 pm**

Cookie wrote:Either the mafia didn't think very hard on which player they should kill or they killed someone they thought had a threatening role. Did Elo give off any indication to what her role was or how she felt about it?

Are we reading too far into the NK?

Are we not reading far enough into it?

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:22 pm**

HamburgerBoy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Cookie
Hamburger Boy
Ika
Mac's Mom
Saberfish
Sig
TinyBubbles

Seven new people who would not know the dynamics.

This will be my focus.
Why would that matter when Team KillFace has BTSC? Wouldn't a new player be likely to ask their experienced regulars where to place the shot?

No offense to anyone here, but I have witnessed the least communicative teams ever in the past several months.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:23 pm**

Cookie wrote:Either the mafia didn't think very hard on which player they should kill or they killed someone they thought had a threatening role. Did Elo give off any indication to what her role was or how she felt about it?

Are we reading too far into the NK?

Or maybe team mafia this game is comprised entirely of players that would usually be the first to go.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:24 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:
Cookie wrote:Either the mafia didn't think very hard on which player they should kill or they killed someone they thought had a threatening role. Did Elo give off any indication to what her role was or how she felt about it?

Are we reading too far into the NK?
Are we not reading far enough into it?

nah we are looking way to far into it

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:45 pm**

I bet llama made the entire evil team new people for a gas.

Posted: **Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:55 pm**

Only one way to find out. Voting Mac's Mom.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:02 am**

I voted for Made, on account of him saying Nightwing.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:15 am**

I just can't stop dying Night 1.
That's 3/4 Night 1 deaths...

That's bloody disheartening. I think I need to take a mafia break. Goodbye all, and good luck.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:16 am**

Scotty wrote:I just can't stop dying Night 1.
That's 3/4 Night 1 deaths... That's bloody disheartening. I think I need to take a mafia break. Goodbye all, and good luck.

Goodnight sweet prince.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:15 am**

I heard Mission Impossible was good-ish

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:36 am**

DharmaHelper wrote:I heard Mission Impossible was good-ish

I work at a movie theater, i'll ask around tomorrow, might see it if i'm bored before/after work.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:49 am**

RIP Eloh and LOLRIP Scotty. I wouldn't kill Eloh night 1, and I don't think Epi would either.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:47 am**

Hrm too bad about Scotty and sad about Elo ruining her record

Just to respond to what Scotty was wrong about in the post I quoted and asked him to get his facts straight - I was pointing out the post bc he had said I had followed Hamburger Boy in a vote for sig when I had said I would not vote sig - I voted MM.

Looking at a few things then working will give thoughts later.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:04 am**

Scotty wrote:I just can't stop dying Night 1.
That's 3/4 Night 1 deaths... That's bloody disheartening. I think I need to take a mafia break. Goodbye all, and good luck.

Hi Scotty, this time I died before you.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 12:53 pm**

Just stopping by for the morning, hello guys, how is everybody? Rest assures that even though I've already cast my vote I am more than willing to engage in spirited debate and baddie hunting. A man's gotta keep his word, that's all.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:30 pm**

Hey all. I really hate to do this, especially as a guy who really despises self voting in many of its forms, but I have fallen very ill, and won't be able to even think about playing until I get better. Sadly, I was counting on every day to accomplish all my wedding and PhD work, and was already feeling behind. Wasn't anticipating getting sick. So once I am feeling better, that will take utmost priority.

I apologize, I'll be back into the game as soon as I can.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:49 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey all. I really hate to do this, especially as a guy who really despises self voting in many of its forms, but I have fallen very ill, and won't be able to even think about playing until I get better. Sadly, I was counting on every day to accomplish all my wedding and PhD work, and was already feeling behind. Wasn't anticipating getting sick. So once I am feeling better, that will take utmost priority.

I apologize, I'll be back into the game as soon as I can.

Get well soon buddy.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:34 pm**

wowzers, spoiler tags are useful anyways, Yo epi

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'd rather you explain this:

"This is a very different cookie than in Watchmen mafia, which I will have to keep an eye on."

How is Cookie very different?
Tonally. She seems much more engaged in this game, my experience with her in Watchmen was basically "Hey, Cookie, could you please play?"
It was her very first game here. That alone is enough to make her tone different. It's not enough to excuse the fact that she is uncomfortable being Mafia and confident being civilian. Her words.

But since you say Cookie seems "much more engaged" here, I will give you Cookie's first five posts in Watchmen to compare to Cookie's first five posts here. Any interested person could see the whole picture here and here, respectively.

Watchmen:

Cookie wrote:Like G-Man, I have no idea what the Watchman is about and I have no idea what to investigate. I will wait until I get home tonight and maybe someone can make suggestions?

Also, I'm new to this site and have played before but with people who don't scumhunt and rely solely on night results from cops, trackers, etc. So I'm excited for a more challenging game.

Cookie wrote:After catching up on the thread, I have a few small things to say:

1) I'm new to this site so don't think I am a good candidate for policy voting (please), for those of you who support it.
2) I've never heard policy voting but I think it's good to identify that problem within mafia games. I've always hated it and having to explain that, in terms of probability, we are more likely to lynch a townie. That being said, I do not support it in any way.
3) I don't think G-Man is suspicious. Having said that, I barely remember who posted what because everyone is new to me. It's easier if I knew people and can put a personality to the post, so when I get to know everyone a bit more, I will be able to scumhunt more efficiently.
4) How do I vote not to lynch someone? On the site I use, we vote "no lynch." Is there an alternative name for it here or do I just not vote?

Cookie wrote:
Golden wrote:Cookie, there is usually no 'no lynch' option here, and missing the vote isn't usually considered an option (see the rules for epi's view on participation).
Oh, thanks! I mean, I read the rules but there was also lots of mumbo-jumbo that I didn't understand about Watchmen and stuff. I'll reread now. : )

Cookie wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Cookie wrote:After catching up on the thread, I have a few small things to say:

4) How do I vote not to lynch someone? On the site I use, we vote "no lynch." Is there an alternative name for it here or do I just not vote?
On this site you have to vote for someone because we have the P-Score. It's a way to track and rate players based on participation. If you miss too many votes, your P-Score will be docked and you might not be allowed into a future game if the host of said game requires a higher P-Score than what you have. Someone more acquainted with the P-Scores take over from here because it's still newish to me as well.
Thanks! I didn't understand what P-scores meant until now. I'm guessing it's the line under my avatar that says "Participation Score." Thanks!

Cookie wrote:
Spoiler: show
Cookie wrote:After catching up on the thread, I have a few small things to say:

1) I'm new to this site so don't think I am a good candidate for policy voting (please), for those of you who support it.
2) I've never heard policy voting but I think it's good to identify that problem within mafia games. I've always hated it and having to explain that, in terms of probability, we are more likely to lynch a townie. That being said, I do not support it in any way.
3) I don't think G-Man is suspicious. Having said that, I barely remember who posted what because everyone is new to me. It's easier if I knew people and can put a personality to the post, so when I get to know everyone a bit more, I will be able to scumhunt more efficiently.
4) How do I vote not to lynch someone? On the site I use, we vote "no lynch." Is there an alternative name for it here or do I just not vote?
Welcome, Cookie!

Why do you not think G-Man is suspicious? Can you elaborate?

Why would you want to vote a "no lynch"?
I don't think G-Man is suspicious because, at this point, I don't suspect anyone's posts to be suspicious. Also, I don't remember who's posted what in the thread because there are so many people to keep track of, therefore, anyone who might have been suspicious would have been more memorable (or their post would have been).

I had been mistaken last night. After I voted for what to investigate, the list of players became available to vote and I saw Epi said we had until midnight to vote so I was panicking that no one else was voting anyone else and so I wanted to vote no one. I didn't want to be responsible for casting the only vote, resulting in a lynch of that person who might have been civ.

Frisky Dingo:

Cookie wrote:Hi guys!! Excited to play!

Cookie wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Whenever I think of Cookie, I think of Billy Sunday in Men of Honor.
Why?!

Cookie wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I would like to lynch Cookie Day 1.
Why again?

Cookie wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I would like to lynch Cookie Day 1.
Why again?

Cookie wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Totally stoked to start playing this game! I’m pretty sure I’ve played at least one game with most of you, but if I haven’t, hello new guys! My strategy this game is going to be a little fast and loose, but I’m ready to wreck face.

Does anyone have any questions for me? Really nervous since I haven’t even seen a single episode of this show… Anybody know who Brent/Trent are? Killing one of them is gonna be an interesting decision, and I feel like I’d make a better choice if I knew more about them. Every Day 0 Poll is almost always nerve wracking.

Who wants to take bets on the first person to ask if anyone has poll info? At least there are only two options. Seems less likely there would be too much oddness with just two options to go off of.
The one problem I can see us running into pretty early is the lack of activity from some of the newer folks, but I’ll hold off judgement on that until more people start to trickle in or the days start to tick by, whichever comes first. Having inactive players (however intentionally) is only going to hurt the civs as the game goes on; having just won a game based on that, I don’t plan on tolerating it if I can help it. Everyone needs to pitch in.

This post is getting a little long but it’s late so it will probably be my only post of the night, better to make it count. Happy to be playing a full game again! I don’t think I could handle a 24/24 game again so soon after Watchmen. Ready to take my time and read everything carefully. Don’t expect me to fuck around with ISO’s or rainbow lists or whatever though.

Rainbow lists, as (inexplicably) popular as they’ve gotten, piss me off because they are annoying and serve no real legitimate purpose. Others obviously disagree, but I figure I’d best get my thoughts on the matter out early; I won’t hold it against anyone who wants to make one, but I won’t really hold those lists in a high regard either. But that’s probably my stubbornness influencing my game. I don’t adapt well to change. Now before I get too ramble-heavy, I’m gonna bounce outta here; bye guys!
What... I like rainbow lists. It helps me organize other peoples' thoughts in my mind. I'm a visual person so maybe that has to do with my preference. I've never made my own rainbow list (although I've only just learned what they are in Watchmen).
++++

No editing. No commentary in that. Just the first five posts.

Tell me: In which scenario does Cookie seem more engaged?

In which scenario do you find yourself more apt to ask "Hey, Cookie, could you please play?"

DH: What makes you say Cookie seems more engaged here and less engaged in Watchmen?

I think the major thing that's different between these two games Cookie is immediately questioned, and in another she isn't. Comfortable/=/ objectively better. I don't know who said it, but i'd say this is a very different cookie from last game. If not civvie, then politician maybe?

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:34 pm**

lol what... sorry for abysmal formating.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:08 pm**

Made wrote:Gonna pull a poor man's MP

YO GMAN
Why did you vote for EPH. IF you don't give an answer--a non8ball answer--you''ll be put on the top of my i vote for you if no one better comes up list (there's a slot for that on my spreadsheet!)

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Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:13 pm**

Epignosis wrote:Nah, I'm rethinking this.

Over dark rum.

Elohcin was killed on Night 1?

This tells me the killers are new fish. Elohcin has never been killed Night 1 that I can remember. Nobody ever feels threatened by her. She gets lynched for stupid reasons. Last game she played, she was silenced and got lynched anyway.

No. This is the work of newer fish.

Roxy, vote a new person, would ya?

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Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:14 pm**

G-Man is right, I'm the only one who has tried at all to reach out to him and help him communicate via the Magic 8-Ball he's unfortunately trapped in.

DharmaHelper wrote:Rest assures that even though I've already cast my vote I am more than willing to engage in spirited debate and baddie hunting.

Indeed it does. Get some rest then!

Sorry to hear about your health, MP.

Posted: **Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:16 pm**

Epignosis wrote:Cookie
Hamburger Boy
Ika
Mac's Mom
Saberfish
Sig
TinyBubbles

Seven new people who would not know the dynamics.

This will be my focus.

Epignosis wrote:Oh, and timmer.

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The Syndicate

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