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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:57 pm
by Syn
are claims alignment indicative in this game

what's the plus side of a mass claim

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:57 pm
by Alison
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:54 pm
Marmot wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:52 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:50 pm i might actually be ok with massclaiming today
Isn't that a bad thing since we're looking at alternate win cons?
no it's a good thing if it helps the town factions work together to ensure that everyone can win (aside from mafia).
also it might be mechanically accurate for the slaver to fullclaim today idk
The last time someone said "let's all work together to ensure that everyone can win" in a game of mafia it went badly.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm
by Syn
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:57 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:54 pm
Marmot wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:52 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:50 pm i might actually be ok with massclaiming today
Isn't that a bad thing since we're looking at alternate win cons?
no it's a good thing if it helps the town factions work together to ensure that everyone can win (aside from mafia).
also it might be mechanically accurate for the slaver to fullclaim today idk
The last time someone said "let's all work together to ensure that everyone can win" in a game of mafia it went badly.
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm
by Urist
actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:59 pm
by Gavial
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:32 pm @ChopChop i have a clever idea. I think we both know that alison is the slaver. But i think if we just treat her as conftown, scum will have to kill her eventually. What do you think?
Scum wouldn’t kill their Slaver.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:59 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Mac would not have been able to differentiate between the claims he was not a role cop that could

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:00 pm
by Urist
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:57 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:54 pm
Marmot wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:52 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:50 pm i might actually be ok with massclaiming today
Isn't that a bad thing since we're looking at alternate win cons?
no it's a good thing if it helps the town factions work together to ensure that everyone can win (aside from mafia).
also it might be mechanically accurate for the slaver to fullclaim today idk
The last time someone said "let's all work together to ensure that everyone can win" in a game of mafia it went badly.
easy to say for someone who has probably fulfilled most of her wincon :nicenod:

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:00 pm
by Marmot
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:57 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:54 pm
Marmot wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:52 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:50 pm i might actually be ok with massclaiming today
Isn't that a bad thing since we're looking at alternate win cons?
no it's a good thing if it helps the town factions work together to ensure that everyone can win (aside from mafia).
also it might be mechanically accurate for the slaver to fullclaim today idk
The last time someone said "let's all work together to ensure that everyone can win" in a game of mafia it went badly.

Tbf, there were secrets and janitored nightkills in that one that let sneak around the massclaim.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:01 pm
by Urist
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:59 pm Mac would not have been able to differentiate between the claims he was not a role cop that could
he would have received "fatal" for eldridge and "multiple" for the slaver.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:01 pm
by Alison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:59 pm Mac would not have been able to differentiate between the claims he was not a role cop that could
He could differentiate. He'd see Fatal on Elridge and Multiple on any Slaver.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:01 pm
by Alison
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:01 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:59 pm Mac would not have been able to differentiate between the claims he was not a role cop that could
he would have received "fatal" for eldridge and "multiple" for the slaver.
towny mind meld

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:02 pm
by Alison
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:00 pm easy to say for someone who has probably fulfilled most of her wincon :nicenod:
:srsnod:

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:02 pm
by Gavial
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:59 pm Mac would not have been able to differentiate between the claims he was not a role cop that could
What a great opening post!
:werewolf:

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:03 pm
by Alison
someone give me a one shot silencer so I can use it in a pro town way

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:03 pm
by Urist
if the slaver outs themselves today i will lock my vote on chopchop until he is dead, i guarantee it

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:04 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Yeah you right I’m wrong

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:06 pm
by Marmot
New Reno members are looking pretty good right now.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I think Eli’s role is clear

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm
by Marmot
Oh hey, I see you Alison.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm
by Alison
If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:08 pm
by Marmot
I don't know what you're talking about, but I'll try to figure it out.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:10 pm
by Urist
outing other peoples' roles is not very pro-town behaviour

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:11 pm
by Urist
i guess alison must be the slaver

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:12 pm
by Marmot
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:10 pm outing other peoples' roles is not very pro-town behaviour
I don't think any role was outed and weren't you suggesting a massclaim. ;)

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:13 pm
by Urist
Marmot wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:12 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:10 pm outing other peoples' roles is not very pro-town behaviour
I don't think any role was outed and weren't you suggesting a massclaim. ;)
i suggested people out their own roles, totally different!

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:14 pm
by Alison
I only outed Epi's role to people who already figured it out.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:17 pm
by Marmot
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:14 pm I only outed Epi's role to people who already figured it out.
Is it useful to figure it out?

I'm TRing Epi right now mainly because he used an ability on Alison, and I dunno if Enclave bothers to do that.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:21 pm
by Grogu
Not bad night. Sun are you scum?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:21 pm
by Grogu
Syn

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:22 pm
by Long Con
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo
How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:23 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:17 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:14 pm I only outed Epi's role to people who already figured it out.
Is it useful to figure it out?

I'm TRing Epi right now mainly because he used an ability on Alison, and I dunno if Enclave bothers to do that.
Towny soft claim

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
by Alison
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:22 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo
How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.
Did you claim your role and I didn't see or what?

I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm
by Urist
i mean he's claiming vt

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:26 pm
by Long Con
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:22 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo
How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.
Did you claim your role and I didn't see or what?

I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.
You guys are willing to just slap-vote me because the all-powerful Epignosis deigned to notice me enough to flick a booger of a vote at me?

That's unforgivably lazy for a player of your caliber. At least pretend to wait for him to make a case or something.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:27 pm
by Long Con
Yeah, I've claimed a few things here and there. Mostly bullshit.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:27 pm
by Marmot
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:26 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:22 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo
How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.
Did you claim your role and I didn't see or what?

I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.
You guys are willing to just slap-vote me because the all-powerful Epignosis deigned to notice me enough to flick a booger of a vote at me?

That's unforgivably lazy for a player of your caliber. At least pretend to wait for him to make a case or something.
I made a case the other day, does that count?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:27 pm
by Alison
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:26 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:22 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo
How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.
Did you claim your role and I didn't see or what?

I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.
You guys are willing to just slap-vote me because the all-powerful Epignosis deigned to notice me enough to flick a booger of a vote at me?

That's unforgivably lazy for a player of your caliber. At least pretend to wait for him to make a case or something.
Seeing how people respond to pressure is telling. Not even you yourself responding to pressure - if you're scum maybe your partners panic and try to start a counter wagon, or some such.

I'm not obligated to lock my vote in on you until EOD. Why should I be a miser with it?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
by Syn
Grogu wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:21 pm Not bad night. Sun are you scum?
ye prolly

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
by Alison
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:30 pm
by Long Con
Marmot wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:26 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:22 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo
How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.
Did you claim your role and I didn't see or what?

I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.
You guys are willing to just slap-vote me because the all-powerful Epignosis deigned to notice me enough to flick a booger of a vote at me?

That's unforgivably lazy for a player of your caliber. At least pretend to wait for him to make a case or something.
I made a case the other day, does that count?
Probably not.
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:26 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:22 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:58 pm actually we will probably just yeet LC no matter what here soo
How is this suddenly a thing out of nowhere?
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
Huh. I don't know if you're wrong or just evil. There's no reason for any bluey-greeny type to vote for me, except Hubologists. Those guys are the worst.
Did you claim your role and I didn't see or what?

I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.
You guys are willing to just slap-vote me because the all-powerful Epignosis deigned to notice me enough to flick a booger of a vote at me?

That's unforgivably lazy for a player of your caliber. At least pretend to wait for him to make a case or something.
Seeing how people respond to pressure is telling. Not even you yourself responding to pressure - if you're scum maybe your partners panic and try to start a counter wagon, or some such.

I'm not obligated to lock my vote in on you until EOD. Why should I be a miser with it?
No, you're right, I'm overreacting. There's a long day ahead. Sorry.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:31 pm
by Long Con
Maybe I could at least be allowed to know why my suspicion of Grogu was so incriminating? Ep?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:31 pm
by Marmot
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction
Actually, it might be worth asking any VT's to claim their name.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:31 pm
by Long Con
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction
You'd think.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:32 pm
by Alison
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:31 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction
You'd think.
Oh so you are hardclaiming VT.

What's your flavor?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:34 pm
by Marmot
Actually, I take that back, I could see a world where a PR would claim VT to hide.

Or am I the only weird one who does that...

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:35 pm
by Long Con
Marmot wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:31 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction
Actually, it might be worth asking any VT's to claim their name.
Marcus.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:37 pm
by Marmot
Long Con wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:35 pm
Marmot wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:31 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction
Actually, it might be worth asking any VT's to claim their name.
Marcus.
Hi Marcus

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:39 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction
Alison’s slaver just for this

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:40 pm
by Long Con
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:39 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
Urist wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:25 pm i mean he's claiming vt
Given the flips so far VT is statistically less likely, even though we know it's the biggest faction
Alison’s slaver just for this
What does that make Epignosis?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:49 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
still town but probably not paying attention which is unfortunate