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Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:22 pm
by nutella
ah i misremembered then


perhaps if someone has received role info about someone they voted for they should claim as such?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:26 pm
by outed wolf
MacDougall claim the goddamn peek

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:42 pm
by Long Con
I wish moth would come on in and let us know if he sent something last night... although it seems really unlikely since no one has said they got anything. Which is crap because he could have bought enough Glory by now to have done it, which means he really just doesn't give a shit about the game at all, or he's just bad and lying.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:57 pm
by MacDougall
Sorry I been asleep forever I'm sick as hell Wilgy is the red check bye

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:59 pm
by bronana
dank

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:05 pm
by Long Con
LOL

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:20 pm
by DrWilgy
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:57 pm Sorry I been asleep forever I'm sick as hell Wilgy is the red check bye
Kill this man

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:20 pm
by Carotenoid
lol does that mean we can finally banish DrWilgy

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:24 pm
by outed wolf
whats your role wilgy, time to claim friendo

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:24 pm
by DrWilgy
Goddammit. Carot and Mac are scum and are power playing wtf.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 pm
by nutella
[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

Yeah you should prob claim

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:00 pm
by Lissa
cool cool

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:01 pm
by DrWilgy
If I claim, my role becomes mostly worthless. He literally chose the easiest player to fake a red check on. He is lying.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:01 pm
by Lissa
nutella wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:22 pm ah i misremembered then


perhaps if someone has received role info about someone they voted for they should claim as such?
seemsgood

they maybe should not claim the actual info itself depending on who it is and what it is but

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:02 pm
by Carotenoid
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:01 pm If I claim, my role becomes mostly worthless.
hmmn Marcher said the same thing lol

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:03 pm
by outed wolf
how exactly do you expect us to believe you if you won't claim your role

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:03 pm
by outed wolf
Carotenoid wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:01 pm If I claim, my role becomes mostly worthless.
hmmn Marcher said the same thing lol
lol ya

wolf playbook 101

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:04 pm
by bronana
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:01 pm If I claim, my role becomes mostly worthless. He literally chose the easiest player to fake a red check on. He is lying.
why would he out himself to lie and take out someone who was likely going to die to POE anyway

if he was a wolf i expected him to go try and take out a spicier target

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:05 pm
by DrWilgy
w/e

I'm a chicken shit and have a action redirect.
Didn't have enough Glory day 1, purchased glory for n2 and targeted Soneji as a freebie, then Mac followed by Dunya. I was not notified to if my redirect did anything.

Here's the thing though if the redirect happened, I do not think Mac red checked Dunya, if the redirect didn't, he didn't red check me. Again, he chose the easiest player to red check and just threw it. Now we have another 24 hours without discussion and I'm just going to die.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:06 pm
by DrWilgy
bronana wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:04 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:01 pm If I claim, my role becomes mostly worthless. He literally chose the easiest player to fake a red check on. He is lying.
why would he out himself to lie and take out someone who was likely going to die to POE anyway

if he was a wolf i expected him to go try and take out a spicier target
Because it was safe. I'm actually really worried about us being close to end game and this is likely the power play.

We have to lynch Mac here.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:06 pm
by bronana
i can't follow your actions at all man

you redirected which player to where, on which night?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:07 pm
by Lissa
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:01 pm If I claim, my role becomes mostly worthless. He literally chose the easiest player to fake a red check on. He is lying.
i mean

i said this to the flipped wolf and i will say it to you

your role is 100% worthless if you die

so

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:07 pm
by DrWilgy
The redirect is from me to someone else.

No one N1, me to Soneji N2, me to Mac N3, and me to Dunya N4.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:08 pm
by Lissa
that doesn't really seem like a villagery role

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:09 pm
by nutella
oh you mean like a deflection of actions targeting you


im confused man lol

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:09 pm
by nutella
Lissa wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:08 pm that doesn't really seem like a villagery role
also very much this

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:09 pm
by Carotenoid
isn't that how wolf play redirection

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:10 pm
by Carotenoid
wait you meant that you can only redirect actions from you to someone else?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:10 pm
by nutella
sounds like a nexus (with chosen targets)

sounds anti-town to me chief

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:11 pm
by Long Con
I don't think we're in a place where wolf-Mac can throw away his life on a fake red-check, and frankly Wilgy isn't even in the towncore, so why would he choose Wilgy? [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine Sorry doctor, but also could I please have your Hope into my Glory when you die? :grin:

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:12 pm
by nutella
but how does this fit in with the red check

does this mean mac is faking because

they can't both be telling the truth right lmao

or am i just confused

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:13 pm
by DrWilgy
Theoretically it could be used to bounce negative actions back to scum and that's how I wanted to use it originally.

Actually while I'm at it, a role being 'villagery' or not seems dumb in the first place.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:13 pm
by nutella
ah yeah that's what he's saying about dunya

he claims mac must be lying because he doesn't believe dunya would return a red?

yeah no that's just a lie lmao

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:14 pm
by DrWilgy
nutella wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:12 pm but how does this fit in with the red check

does this mean mac is faking because

they can't both be telling the truth right lmao

or am i just confused
You're right.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:15 pm
by DrWilgy
wtf.

There's literally 0 opposition to this and I went from 1 to 8. I AM NOT SCUM.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:15 pm
by Carotenoid
the claim is confusing but DrWilgy is really suspicious from Marcher Jovian interactions anyway

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:15 pm
by Lissa
nutella wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:12 pm but how does this fit in with the red check

does this mean mac is faking because

they can't both be telling the truth right lmao

or am i just confused
wilgy is probably just like

straight making it up

if he's a wolf it doesn't make sense for it to be actually also real

and if he's a villager it's just weird as fuck

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:17 pm
by bronana
I don't remember wilgy suspecting dunya?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:17 pm
by DrWilgy
If I were making up a role, why would I not just make up a villigery sounding role.

the argument for if a role is villigery is dumb and WIFOM.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:19 pm
by outed wolf
if wilgy is a villager, and mac is a villager, it means dunya is a wolf

if wilgy is a wolf who cares

if wilgy is a villager, mac can unfortunately still be a wolf

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:19 pm
by DrWilgy
bronana wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:17 pm I don't remember wilgy suspecting dunya?
No, I thought Dunya was town.

After the 3rd day of being a wagon in a row, I figured only civ powers would be going towards me and thought I may as well redirect it to a civ. Don't see why a wolf targets me in the position I was in.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:19 pm
by MacDougall
Fwiw I wanted you to be town.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:20 pm
by DrWilgy
Bullshit.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:20 pm
by Lissa
wilgy if you don't think dunya would've been a red check why did you target her?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:21 pm
by nutella
if your claim is true though why would you not assume or at least even consider that mac got dunya's alignment back


the fact that you're not thinking that way shows me you're prob just lying

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:21 pm
by outed wolf
wilgy, can you only redirect from yourself?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:21 pm
by DrWilgy
Mac CLEARLY went to save Jovain against Sloon and is redchecking me now that I've called him out for it.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:21 pm
by Lissa
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:19 pm
bronana wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:17 pm I don't remember wilgy suspecting dunya?
No, I thought Dunya was town.

After the 3rd day of being a wagon in a row, I figured only civ powers would be going towards me and thought I may as well redirect it to a civ. Don't see why a wolf targets me in the position I was in.
i

i mean

still you'd expect them to be negative or at best neutral/investigative civ powers, though, yeah?

????

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:22 pm
by DrWilgy
nutella wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:21 pm if your claim is true though why would you not assume or at least even consider that mac got dunya's alignment back


the fact that you're not thinking that way shows me you're prob just lying
Because I'm 100% sure Mac is lying here.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 5]

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:23 pm
by nutella
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:19 pm
bronana wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:17 pm I don't remember wilgy suspecting dunya?
No, I thought Dunya was town.

After the 3rd day of being a wagon in a row, I figured only civ powers would be going towards me and thought I may as well redirect it to a civ. Don't see why a wolf targets me in the position I was in.
....what


this makes no sense


if you're a consensus suspect, the only town roles that are gonna target you are gonna be negative ones

why would you target someone you thought was town then

literally nothing about your claim makes sense from a town or honest perspective, sorrynotsorry