Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 5]
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 9:15 pm
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Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:07 pmI tracked you but the mods haven’t given me a result yet.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:04 pm That was not the ideal vig shot at all. Maybe there really is a serial killer. But N4 we were due for a vig shot so still probably not.
@Gavial who did you track and where did they go...and if you say you tracked Made I will slaughter you today, just so you know.
iirc you are supposed to just talk about this sort of thing with host and host only.
If I am the serial killer how does tracking me to a kill "prove my innocence"? smh.
My bad if it’s angle shooting.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:15 pmGavial wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:07 pmI tracked you but the mods haven’t given me a result yet.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:04 pm That was not the ideal vig shot at all. Maybe there really is a serial killer. But N4 we were due for a vig shot so still probably not.
@Gavial who did you track and where did they go...and if you say you tracked Made I will slaughter you today, just so you know.iirc you are supposed to just talk about this sort of thing with host and host only.
this has 0 bearing on the game and your alignment.
you seem to try and force angelshooting and that is wrong and messed up.
That's why I read it as just town. A wolf would have calculated out that tying themselves to the same thing I was getting sussed for would have no good results for themselves, so would have just passed that by.Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:06 pmI wasn't really cognizant of the idea that I could be suspected for what Tim is saying, on Day 1. I was just sharing what my Shrine experience/relationship was... or wasn't. It probably doesn't read like a pocket attempt.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:46 pmThis looks like a pocket if I’ve ever heard one, if LC is bad. And if it looks like a pocket to me, and you aren’t deemed worth pocketing? Why is that?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:43 pmMy only alignment indicative thing on LC is that he stepped in day one when I was potentially mischoppable and got me off the hook.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:36 pmI don’t remember you “starting” the wagon. But I also don’t have the patience to look all the way back through through the various vote orders yesterdayTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:33 pmNAI...I post a lot when I am on defense.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:27 pmIt’s not just your EoDs that are troubling, but I am harping on those because I see a pattern, and it’s not catching scum while still being entrenched as the town voice.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:24 pm
I appreciate the effort and will stop screaming at you.
FWIW, my alignment aside I live and by by watching movements at EoD. I generally get a lot more information that way than any other. That's why you see me and Mac as potential partners (in alignment) because we were partnery at EoDs...but it's because we play the same way in that respect. I am more considered in my movements where Mac just wildly flings votes (IMO), but we are both moving to cause movements more than we are following particular reads.
Also you passed me in highest poster sometime yesterday, so there’s that.
And yeah, I've said it myself that when I don't have pelts I am hard to trust, so I understand. But seriously, "I helped start a wagon on the most powerful wolf just so that I could wifom off it if he did flip" is just bad wolf play no matter how you look at it, and the one thing I think everyone will agree on is that if you find yourself saying "yeah bad play but wolves just make bad plays sometimes so Tim"...I'm not that wolf. I may not be great town, but when I play wolf I am three steps ahead on every path.
But point taken.
Hey, how do you read LC right now?
You and I had our clear difference about how you knew what the shrines you could visit would do and I could go to any shrine but didn't know shit. I see no reason why a w!LC steps in there and says "yeah me too" when I was on that hot seat. Sure, it was going to eventually resolve as NAI on both sides, but what's the point of making that happen? Just to pocket me? I am usually deemed not worth pocketing by most wolf teams, but maybe. Not something I am quite ready to look at when Radishes has done obvious wolf driven things.
That’s the ONLY alignment-indicative thing you’ve taken away from LC? Sheesh
is it bad that I like reading LongCon's posts i think he is town?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:13 pmYou’re not gonna get that. LC wolf is sneaky wolf. He will appear town, but really he’s pulling...the long conDaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:11 pm if LongCon is supposed to be scum then someone is going to have to literally walk me through it. not just show me posts and talk about his actions but go in depth and explain everything. I expect charts and graphs and lists and actual spreadsheets and vote count analysises. im going to need in depth explanations and reasoning.![]()
Different how exactly?DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:21 pm the fact that Gavial is playing completely different from the last game is partially why I think he is scum in this game.
In that game you made sense?Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:22 pmDifferent how exactly?DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:21 pm the fact that Gavial is playing completely different from the last game is partially why I think he is scum in this game.
Gavial! this ^ a million times thisTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:25 pmIn that game you made sense?Gavial wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:22 pmDifferent how exactly?DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:21 pm the fact that Gavial is playing completely different from the last game is partially why I think he is scum in this game.
this whole entire game you been tin foily and random. you give 0 explanations. you don't explain your reads or nothing. you don't give reasons for anything you do. you yell and demand people to listen to you and do what you say instead of trying to be show people your process. you expect everyone to just see or know what u r talking about. you call people scum for disagreeing with you. and you never own up when you yourself have been wrong. we are not mind readers, yet you expect us to be.
she was town in that game. she is town in this one.
lol
No overlap and they don’t suspect each other.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:02 pmRadish, Marmot, Lost Monkey...from my POV an easy possibility that you should be able to immediately think "hmmm, could be" about...without even having to dismiss obvious facts with "well, wolf Tim could do just anything so I never clear him ever."Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:55 pm I have a very hard time making a 3 player wolfteam without Tim even if I had no reason to suspect him and I feel like I have a fair bit.
Same goes for LC only I don’t have a lot of specific reason to suspect LC.
Tim not all that attached to his suspect list tho lolTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:05 pmSub Radishes for Vulgard and consider Vulgard a dupe...how does it look then?
I was hoping you at least would pick up on meeting me at Mehrunes Fagon's shrine so I hope you got something interesting from the night.
Distancing?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:07 pmI switched to Marmot FROM Falcon. I piled on Falcon behind Vulgard and MADE HIM A WAGON. Why, as a wolf do I do that?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:03 pmYou didn’t need to pile on falcon. When you switched to marmot it was a 3-3-3 tie, was it not? Then when falcon took the lead by 2, you didn’t need to move. I mean, you could have, and my opinion might have swung either way saying “well he bussed him” or “he’s town”.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:57 pmCatch them in a lie? Like after all my claims to being the merchant if you found out I was not an Imperial you'd have a genuine reason to vote me instead of whatever conf bias nonsense you are feeding on currently.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:51 pmYeah, cool cool. Me tooDaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:49 pmidk if it's cool or not but I found out some stuffs. idk what it means or not means tho.
You know what would be nice? Figuring out how learning someone’s race means anything.
I'm gonna say this one more time because it is so damn frustrating. When the wagons were me and Falcon and I was already well ahead WTF makes you think I, as a wolf, would pile on Falcon and fight my ass off instead of just laying down and eating the chop there? Ask Jack...in what fucking world am I that bad of a wolf?
You didn’t bus him, because he was a good mafia role.
I would buy the aforementioned argument from literally nobody.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:09 pm Enter Jack saying "for the WIFOM...sure anyone but Tim I buy that, but always chop Tim no matter what."
This is a fair perspective for a townie in general.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:13 pmBecause I thought when Vulgard and Radishes abandoned their cases on Falcon and voted me instead that I was being set up. I never made a case on Falcon, I just sheeped theirs. "Yeah I am sheeping these guys on Falcon and oh yeah both of them are voting me" is a stupid position, so I got out of it. I could at least push Marmot with my own case.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:09 pmTit for tat- why leave falcon?Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:07 pmI switched to Marmot FROM Falcon. I piled on Falcon behind Vulgard and MADE HIM A WAGON. Why, as a wolf do I do that?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:03 pmYou didn’t need to pile on falcon. When you switched to marmot it was a 3-3-3 tie, was it not? Then when falcon took the lead by 2, you didn’t need to move. I mean, you could have, and my opinion might have swung either way saying “well he bussed him” or “he’s town”.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:57 pmCatch them in a lie? Like after all my claims to being the merchant if you found out I was not an Imperial you'd have a genuine reason to vote me instead of whatever conf bias nonsense you are feeding on currently.Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:51 pmYeah, cool cool. Me tooDaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:49 pm
idk if it's cool or not but I found out some stuffs. idk what it means or not means tho.
You know what would be nice? Figuring out how learning someone’s race means anything.
I'm gonna say this one more time because it is so damn frustrating. When the wagons were me and Falcon and I was already well ahead WTF makes you think I, as a wolf, would pile on Falcon and fight my ass off instead of just laying down and eating the chop there? Ask Jack...in what fucking world am I that bad of a wolf?
You didn’t bus him, because he was a good mafia role.
I still think there were two wolf wagons there and i wasn't one of them, by the way.
Can you summarize your reasoning for suspecting both Falcon and Marmot and for townreading Tim?
What are you talking about? Lol we thinking of a different game.
It was not nothing it was no result.
How is it tmi to get the setup wrong?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:41 pmReally? It’s minor but I find it hard to believe you’re posting this, what with the very first line of the description of this game as 18 v 5 v 1.Vulgard wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:23 pm One thing concerns me. It's a 24er, so I expect six or seven nontown. We have two flipped nontown and 12 people alive, if my math isn't terrible.
In that case, we have four or five nontown alive with seven or eight town alive. My PoE is too small for this. Which is why I'm moving people out of my clear zone. People like Gavial and Marmot.
I don't know what to do with Tim at this point, plain and simple.
This whole post reads like TMI
What’s with the “?” In this post?DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:19 pmis it bad that I like reading LongCon's posts i think he is town?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:13 pmYou’re not gonna get that. LC wolf is sneaky wolf. He will appear town, but really he’s pulling...the long conDaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:11 pm if LongCon is supposed to be scum then someone is going to have to literally walk me through it. not just show me posts and talk about his actions but go in depth and explain everything. I expect charts and graphs and lists and actual spreadsheets and vote count analysises. im going to need in depth explanations and reasoning.![]()
Honestly I would be willing to vote Vulgard here considering he had me as hard town when he entered and now wants to take it out of his list because others are growing suspicious of me despite my interaction with Mac should have been a clear TVS indication.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 10:49 pmHow is it tmi to get the setup wrong?Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:41 pmReally? It’s minor but I find it hard to believe you’re posting this, what with the very first line of the description of this game as 18 v 5 v 1.Vulgard wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:23 pm One thing concerns me. It's a 24er, so I expect six or seven nontown. We have two flipped nontown and 12 people alive, if my math isn't terrible.
In that case, we have four or five nontown alive with seven or eight town alive. My PoE is too small for this. Which is why I'm moving people out of my clear zone. People like Gavial and Marmot.
I don't know what to do with Tim at this point, plain and simple.
This whole post reads like TMI
Isn’t that a (real or fake) derpclear, literally the opposite of tmi?
Should I suspect Tim for having different reads than me?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 10:28 pmNo overlap and they don’t suspect each other.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:02 pmRadish, Marmot, Lost Monkey...from my POV an easy possibility that you should be able to immediately think "hmmm, could be" about...without even having to dismiss obvious facts with "well, wolf Tim could do just anything so I never clear him ever."Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:55 pm I have a very hard time making a 3 player wolfteam without Tim even if I had no reason to suspect him and I feel like I have a fair bit.
Same goes for LC only I don’t have a lot of specific reason to suspect LC.
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I didn't suspect falcon or Marmot beyond not specifically townreading them like Tim or Scotty or Made. I think Tim has been very towny in this game, and that most of the cases against him sound wrong.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 10:44 pmCan you summarize your reasoning for suspecting both Falcon and Marmot and for townreading Tim?