The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:59 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:58 am So maybe Tim is the one lying then. And Wilgy's claim is legit, and I was the only person visiting Ted?

But Wilgy said he saw that Tim visited Ted.

So if Wilgy's claim is legit, then he would see you visit Ted, not Tim.

or both

Wilgy has to be lying in all worlds.

Ted, you said you were roleblocked, but Dizzy tracked you to Tim. Can you resolve this?

I didn't say I was roleblocked.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:59 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:58 am So maybe Tim is the one lying then. And Wilgy's claim is legit, and I was the only person visiting Ted?

But Wilgy said he saw that Tim visited Ted.

So if Wilgy's claim is legit, then he would see you visit Ted, not Tim.

Oh. He specified that it was Tim? I didn't see that part of his claim. Just stopped at the first post I quoted a few posts ago. Well, if he specified that, he's lying. Cause I visited Ted as well, and if he was watcher he should've seen that.

The Dizzy track seriously just blew up the POE lol. This was a fantastic claim by Dizzy.

So, I thought Tim softed a roleblock on me.

Then he said he softed a Motion Detect.

And then he said he ACTUALLY roleblocked me N1.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:00 pm So, I thought Tim softed a roleblock on me.

Then he said he softed a Motion Detect.

And then he said he ACTUALLY roleblocked me N1.

So at the point in time that Tim said, "yeah, I legit roleblocked Ted" - why didn't you come out and say "that's nonsense, I was never roleblocked"?

This is big news

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:00 pm The Dizzy track seriously just blew up the POE lol. This was a fantastic claim by Dizzy.

Lol. And that was just my random N1 action. I feel bad for that mafia team. Kind of =p

Because I already explained it - my action should not receive a roleblocked message or not, I'm not an investigative.

In any case Wilgy is scum in all worlds here so I'm just going to [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine. I need to go for a bit and I'll let other people comb through the Tim/Ted conflict and figure out who's lying.

Sorry, so..If I am roleblocked, I should NOT receive a message of me being roleblocked given my role. Nobody is told they are roleblocked lmao.

The only people knowing they're roleblocked or their action was tempered with are obviously investigatives.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:02 pm Because I already explained it - my action should not receive a roleblocked message or not, I'm not an investigative.

Oh, I see, because on some other sites I've played on, it gives you a roleblocked message whether or not the action went through. I guess that was just a simple confusion then.

I guess this proves Tim was lying about roleblocking Ted. I'll give Wilgy and Tim some chances to explain themselves, and then we'll turbo them if they don't have a good explanation.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:03 pm Sorry, so..If I am roleblocked, I should NOT receive a message of me being roleblocked given my role. Nobody is told they are roleblocked lmao.

The only people knowing they're roleblocked or their action was tempered with are obviously investigatives.

But if you were roleblocked, I wouldn't see you go anywhere, I assume.

Tim scum flip 100% clears Oddmerta btw. I will hear no more slander of him after that.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:03 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:02 pm Because I already explained it - my action should not receive a roleblocked message or not, I'm not an investigative.

Oh, I see, because on some other sites I've played on, it gives you a roleblocked message whether or not the action went through. I guess that was just a simple confusion then.

I guess this proves Tim was lying about roleblocking Ted. I'll give Wilgy and Tim some chances to explain themselves, and then we'll turbo them if they don't have a good explanation.

Put a fork in them because they are done

i'd like to hear from tim. or can someone pull up the post where he said he roleblocked ted? because I thought he said something like md

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:04 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:03 pm Sorry, so..If I am roleblocked, I should NOT receive a message of me being roleblocked given my role. Nobody is told they are roleblocked lmao.

The only people knowing they're roleblocked or their action was tempered with are obviously investigatives.

But if you were roleblocked, I wouldn't see you go anywhere, I assume.

Yes, of course you don't see me.

Now all I have to do is be right about spf and I am literally perfect

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:51 am

dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:48 am idk how i feel about another tracker claim. I think trackers are a little weak in a role madness setup so maybe?

Well, I'm Tracker. Also, didn't Tim claim to target Ted as well on N1. Cause if Wilgy is saying 1 person targeted Ted, then that means either Wilgy or Tim is lying or one action is ninja. Probably Wilgy is lying and made up the result based on what had been talked about in thread already (Tim targeting Ted), and he didn't know I also targeted Ted.

This would explain why Tim's been obsessively on me since my reveal. Lol.

This is exciting. Good ol' dizzy!

[mention]Timsup2nothin[/mention] [mention]DrWilgy[/mention]

A night action has been claimed that proves you are lying about your night results. I see absolutely no reason to distrust that claim. I hope you have a good explanation.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:04 pm Tim scum flip 100% clears Oddmerta btw. I will hear no more slander of him after that.

Excuse me - I called the guy on page 5 and when everyone doubted it, I stuck with it.

I'm leaving this game with the biggest pelt if Tim is a wolf.

this is a re-run of Pyre and me vs Marcher if Tim's a wolf here

dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:34 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:04 pm On the bright side, I know JPIC didn't target anyone last night.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 pm JK, JPIC targetted tutuu

@Alison

I have my reasons. May spill later in the day.

lol the time to spill is before we vote you out...which looks like it may be happening

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:06 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:04 pm Tim scum flip 100% clears Oddmerta btw. I will hear no more slander of him after that.

Excuse me - I called the guy on page 5 and when everyone doubted it, I stuck with it.

I'm leaving this game with the biggest pelt if Tim is a wolf.

this is a re-run of Pyre and me vs Marcher if Tim's a wolf here

You're alright ted but that pelt is mine

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:06 pm @Timsup2nothin @DrWilgy

A night action has been claimed that proves you are lying about your night results. I see absolutely no reason to distrust that claim. I hope you have a good explanation.

Nope, just hope you remember to actually yeet the other ends of the thunderdome this time once I'm gone.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:46 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:45 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:42 am Currently (70-79.9%)-I have a pissy investigative role which I used on Ted that didn't tell me anything useful.

What were you planning to draw out of me by asking the questions that you asked towards me?

You were softing a roleblock, not an investigative.

I was softing motion detect actually.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:22 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:18 am Tim what is the list of your powers that you acquire and at what points?

80%+ civilian double vote next day
70-79.9% civilian roleblock...used on Ted N1...yeah I lied
60-69.9% civilian motion detector
<60% civilian bulletproof

Edit: I changed my claim based on a correction I received from host.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:08 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:06 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:04 pm Tim scum flip 100% clears Oddmerta btw. I will hear no more slander of him after that.

Excuse me - I called the guy on page 5 and when everyone doubted it, I stuck with it.

I'm leaving this game with the biggest pelt if Tim is a wolf.

this is a re-run of Pyre and me vs Marcher if Tim's a wolf here

You're alright ted but that pelt is mine

50/50 ?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:00 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:59 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:58 am So maybe Tim is the one lying then. And Wilgy's claim is legit, and I was the only person visiting Ted?

But Wilgy said he saw that Tim visited Ted.

So if Wilgy's claim is legit, then he would see you visit Ted, not Tim.

Oh. He specified that it was Tim? I didn't see that part of his claim. Just stopped at the first post I quoted a few posts ago. Well, if he specified that, he's lying. Cause I visited Ted as well, and if he was watcher he should've seen that.

No, I did not specify. I just saw 1, so either you or Tim is lying if there was no RB.

I don't really care about assigning credit for pelts, you can figure it out between yourselves. If the team is Tim and Wilgy, I'll clear Ted (since they both targeted him) and Oddmerta (for, you know, the gamelong Tim tunnel).

I just checked the original post. Wilgy does indeed specify that Ted was targeted by "one person", not a specific person. We all assumed it was Tim but now we know better. Wilgy, why did you call it a Watcher if it doesn't reveal the identities of the people involved?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:12 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:08 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:06 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:04 pm Tim scum flip 100% clears Oddmerta btw. I will hear no more slander of him after that.

Excuse me - I called the guy on page 5 and when everyone doubted it, I stuck with it.

I'm leaving this game with the biggest pelt if Tim is a wolf.

this is a re-run of Pyre and me vs Marcher if Tim's a wolf here

You're alright ted but that pelt is mine

50/50 ?

I want the bigger half

I figured out the way

https://www.rpsgame.org/room?id=3d8jd

I challenge you to a manly contest of rock paper scissors in order to determine the champion that will strip Tim of his hide

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:29 pm I don't really care about assigning credit for pelts, you can figure it out between yourselves. If the team is Tim and Wilgy, I'll clear Ted (since they both targeted him) and Oddmerta (for, you know, the gamelong Tim tunnel).

I knows dem wolves whens I sees dem

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:32 pm I figured out the way

https://www.rpsgame.org/room?id=3d8jd

I challenge you to a manly contest of rock paper scissors in order to determine the champion that will strip Tim of his hide

You sonofabitch, I'm in

So here's how the Wilgy/Tim/Dizzy thunderdome is going to go since the last one I got wrapped into was so atrocious. (Thanks [mention]tedxtr[/mention] )

If the TD isn't resolved mechanically or via flips and one of us 3 are still alive, you better murk them.

We need to confirm and vote between us three on the following criteria and in this order:
1. Least likely to most likely resolve during the TD.
2. Most to Least. Amount of information to be gained by certain flips.

And I swear to god when I flip and don't see Tim/Dizzy as the next yeets I'm going to haunt y'all.

Possibilities here:

1) Wilgy and Tim are both telling the truth. Tim was roleblocked for some reason, and his action did not go through. (I don't know what happens if Tim gets roleblocked on the same night he roleblocks someone else, though.) Wilgy saw Dizzy visiting Ted.

2) Wilgy is lying, Tim is telling the truth. Two people, Tim and Dizzy, visited Ted that night, and Wilgy just completely made up his Watcher result on the assumption that only Tim visited.

3) Tim is lying, Wilgy is telling the truth. Tim is a scumbutt and went off to do nefarious things, like killing people. Wilgy saw 1 person, Dizzy, visiting Ted.

4) Wilgy and Tim are both lying. Tim agrees to pretend he visited Ted in order to make Wilgy's roleclaim more realistic, and Wilgy follows along by pretending he saw Tim visit Ted. They're caught off guard by an unexpected visitor, Dizzy, who throws the roleclaim into question.

Of these possibilities, I think we can safely rule out 4. If that were the scenario, Tim would have waited until Wilgy claimed before claiming to visit Ted. That way Wilgy's Watcher claim looks more legit because it wasn't outing information that was already public. And of course Tim went really hard at trying to murder Wilgy this day phase. I doubt they're buddies.

Could 1) be true? In theory yes. But I don't think scum roleblocks Tim, and a town roleblocker would have outed by now. So I find it unlikely. Maybe scum had some weird PR read on Tim because of his day play, but if that was the case I think they'd have shot Tim. At any case it would require some really bad luck on our side for this to be the case (either scum roleblocker had a really lucky block that messed up our night results, or town roleblocker threw by not outing).

So I'm thinking that it's 2) or 3) and that there's one wolf between Tim and Wilgy. Our job now is to find out who that wolf is and execute them. I don't think it's ever correct to vote outside of those two today.

I think I won the rps

Wilgy, I very much doubt that Dizzy is the scum here. There is no reason for them to claim the way they did if they were scum.

As per the site's rules - the game didn't end so we gotta keep on going

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:38 pm As per the site's rules - the game didn't end so we gotta keep on going

Nah, it's all glitchy and stuff for me. Reset for no reason

Good work champ, he's all yours as promised

F U C K

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:41 pm

Good work champ, he's all yours as promised

F U C K

It was just meant to be, you did good ted. Couldn't have done it without you

Something to note: according to Tim's information (which matches with our understanding of mafia balance), there are 5 wolves in the game total. Three of them (nutella, sprityo, JPIC) are dead. If we nail the fourth wolf today, then trackers become cops if there is a night kill. If you track someone, they were nowhere, and someone gets killed by the mafia, you can clear that person of being mafia. That makes our chances of winning skyrocket if we can turn dyachei and Dizzy into cops.

That means if you're town, you should not be visiting people unless you have a good explanation for why you were doing so if you get tracked and they die. Don't inadvertently frame yourself.

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] I do want to ask, why didn't you vote at all the earlier days if your role is dependent on voting?

My guts say Wilgy is town and I'd like to state that for the record

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:44 pm That means if you're town, you should not be visiting people unless you have a good explanation for why you were doing so if you get tracked and they die. Don't inadvertently frame yourself.

To be clear, this is not saying "don't follow the plan". Follow the plan. But if you aren't in the plan and have some useless fluffy power like nanook's or ted's or LC's, don't mess up our trackers by visiting people needlessly.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:38 pm Wilgy, I very much doubt that Dizzy is the scum here. There is no reason for them to claim the way they did if they were scum.

I agree and that's why I'm voting Tim.

I don't know how we resolve them, I know I can be resolved.

I think Tim flip would solve me, odd and Ted? Not entirely too sure how, but I thought I read something along those lines.