The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:04 am**

Town: DrWilgy , Michelle, Nanook , Nutella, Porscha, Santygrass, Jack, Lumi , Hally

This is my towny congregation rn I'd say

Inawy/Dezees/Pyxxy/Seanzie are also slots that I should sort out how I feel but think it can be done later with more info

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:45 am The joke is "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

Where "drinking water" is "yeeting wolf Falcon."
No.
Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
Idk how I find wolf!Falcon, I know how to find town!Falcon, and I find town!Falcon by figuring out how confortable he is.

show me his discomfort and I might agree.

I also don't understand why you townread WIlgy, but I also didn't read any of your posts about it.

This is Falcon's reaction to me pushing him. Pick out the one post I made around that time that isn't about him and vote for me without seemingly having any reason to do so. It's an awkward discredit attempt because he can't do anything about my suspicion on him because it's accurate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.
What?

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am**

Hi Falcon

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:45 am The joke is "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

Where "drinking water" is "yeeting wolf Falcon."
No.
Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.

There's whole lotta assumptions going on in this post.

I understand why you may be TR Wilgy....I just don't care

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am**

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am Hi Falcon

Bonjour

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:06 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:04 am Town: DrWilgy , Michelle, Nanook , Nutella, Porscha, Santygrass, Jack, Lumi , Hally

This is my towny congregation rn I'd say

Inawy/Dezees/Pyxxy/Seanzie are also slots that I should sort out how I feel but think it can be done later with more info

I agree with this block at the least.

My Nanook read is about drinking so much WIFOM that I get affectionate drunk.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:06 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:45 am The joke is "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

Where "drinking water" is "yeeting wolf Falcon."
No.
Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
Idk how I find wolf!Falcon, I know how to find town!Falcon, and I find town!Falcon by figuring out how confortable he is.

show me his discomfort and I might agree.

I also don't understand why you townread WIlgy, but I also didn't read any of your posts about it.
This is Falcon's reaction to me pushing him. Pick out the one post I made around that time that isn't about him and vote for me without seemingly having any reason to do so. It's an awkward discredit attempt because he can't do anything about my suspicion on him because it's accurate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.
What?

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

What?

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:06 am**

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:02 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:59 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:57 am [VOTE: falconc45a] aubergine
Where did you come from Santy?
I just quickly catched up and am vibing with Jack and want to be carried rn
Carried howso and carried why so?

As in I think Jack's view about falcon is quite correct so Im sheeping that read .

And to reply to Seanzie I also vibed with the Wilg read, and their sparks of post yesterday talking about who pointed at the dizzy/tsp kills and other stuff I also thought it was town indicative

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:06 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:57 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am I'd elim Michelle. Also this was a separate thought from IAWY asking about Michelle a few posts ago. I didn't see that post before I decided I'd elim Michelle.
Why?
Looked at a page of her ISO and got meh vibes.
Michelle having an ISO is Townie, she's quite quiet as Maf

I don't remember that from her wolf game.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:07 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:45 am The joke is "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

Where "drinking water" is "yeeting wolf Falcon."
No.
Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
There's whole lotta assumptions going on in this post.

I understand why you may be TR Wilgy....I just don't care

So what about me townreading Wilgy made you go "WHAT? Vote: Jack"?

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:08 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:06 am
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:02 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:59 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:57 am [VOTE: falconc45a] aubergine
Where did you come from Santy?
I just quickly catched up and am vibing with Jack and want to be carried rn
Carried howso and carried why so?
As in I think Jack's view about falcon is quite correct so Im sheeping that read .

And to reply to Seanzie I also vibed with the Wilg read, and their sparks of post yesterday talking about who pointed at the dizzy/tsp kills and other stuff I also thought it was town indicative

Can you quote those posts? I don't see Falcon giving heavy input into NKs on a 4-person team, so thinking that NKs point to Falcon sounds like dubious thinking.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:08 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:06 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:57 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am I'd elim Michelle. Also this was a separate thought from IAWY asking about Michelle a few posts ago. I didn't see that post before I decided I'd elim Michelle.
Why?
Looked at a page of her ISO and got meh vibes.
Michelle having an ISO is Townie, she's quite quiet as Maf
I don't remember that from her wolf game.

Perhaps she does have wolf games where she's active? I've wooofed w/ her tho, and she was virtually silent, and I've towned against her and she was remarkably silent as well

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:06 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:04 am Town: DrWilgy , Michelle, Nanook , Nutella, Porscha, Santygrass, Jack, Lumi , Hally

This is my towny congregation rn I'd say

Inawy/Dezees/Pyxxy/Seanzie are also slots that I should sort out how I feel but think it can be done later with more info
I agree with this block at the least.

My Nanook read is about drinking so much WIFOM that I get affectionate drunk.

I think Ranmilia had a good read on Nanook from the kills that Im still sheeping fwiw. Can look it up.

Also I think Lumi/Hally are prob not players but think they are protown regardless

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am Hi Falcon
Bonjour

Parlez vous ‘Ndranghetais?

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:11 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:07 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:45 am The joke is "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

Where "drinking water" is "yeeting wolf Falcon."
No.
Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
There's whole lotta assumptions going on in this post.

I understand why you may be TR Wilgy....I just don't care
So what about me townreading Wilgy made you go "WHAT? Vote: Jack"?

Wilgy is more than capable of being "in the game" as wolf, and it strikes me as an odd way to read his slot

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:12 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:23 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:19 am Also, I am missing anyone from the 'syndicaters' group in
{Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Pyxxy , Sprityo} ?
Maybe Nook or Wilg?

Cuz like, I still think that Tsp and now Dizzy kill points to someone in mafia that pays more attention to people from syndicate at the very least
Nook and Wilgy are syndicate regulars but...and don't take this the wrong way, guys, I don't think either of them, if wolves, are calling the kills itg. That is, it can only be broken clock style logically correct to accuse them of being wolves based on the nks.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:24 pm Which means likely wolf in Falcon, Pyxxy, Sprityo? I was under the impression Sprityo wasn't really playing.

I'mma look at Falcon. I'm good at reading Falcon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:26 pm Yeah so....this isn't town!Falcon.

I'm not gonna swear this is wolf!Falcon and not just NPC!Falcon but this isn't his town game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:18 pm I don't think that the idea that townies might not CC leads to the conclusion that scum might ever falseclaim. Sure, that might buy you a day but eventually, the actual town role is likely to flip or decide you're a wolf and fuck you over. Maybe people assume you're an NPC fucking about but idk, just seems like it's asking for trouble.

So basically, yeah, don't yeet Seanzie because he's not likely ever a wolf.

@Seanzie this string of posts

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:12 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:06 am
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:02 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:59 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:57 am [VOTE: falconc45a] aubergine
Where did you come from Santy?
I just quickly catched up and am vibing with Jack and want to be carried rn
Carried howso and carried why so?
As in I think Jack's view about falcon is quite correct so Im sheeping that read .

And to reply to Seanzie I also vibed with the Wilg read, and their sparks of post yesterday talking about who pointed at the dizzy/tsp kills and other stuff I also thought it was town indicative

Okay but why do you think their Falcon view is correct?

If you think Jack is townie based on vibing with their other reads, alright, but are you just blindly sheeping his Falcon read because you think he’s town, or do you think Falcon is mafia for your own reasons so you’re sheeping similar thoughts to your own?

If you think his view is correct then you have specific reasons to agree with the read, reasons that you’re being reluctant to share and dancing around

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:15 am**

? Why would I have 'specific reasons' to agree with a read?

I see a read, agree with the thought process/arguments behind it, and I sheep.

Like, I can also agree with it because Falcon was PoE and stuff for me but dont get the last part of 'having reasons that im recluctant to share' . Where does that come from?

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:15 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:11 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:07 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 am

No.
Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
There's whole lotta assumptions going on in this post.

I understand why you may be TR Wilgy....I just don't care
So what about me townreading Wilgy made you go "WHAT? Vote: Jack"?
Wilgy is more than capable of being "in the game" as wolf, and it strikes me as an odd way to read his slot

What about that makes you want to vote for me though?

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am**

Like.
Player A comes in and says that B is mafia because they posted three times.

Do I have to have another reason to agree with a read like that? Or another motivation on *why* I think its correct? Like wowee I think its correct because I agree with the fundamentals smh

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:45 am The joke is "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

Where "drinking water" is "yeeting wolf Falcon."
No.
Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
Idk how I find wolf!Falcon, I know how to find town!Falcon, and I find town!Falcon by figuring out how confortable he is.

show me his discomfort and I might agree.

I also don't understand why you townread WIlgy, but I also didn't read any of your posts about it.
This is Falcon's reaction to me pushing him. Pick out the one post I made around that time that isn't about him and vote for me without seemingly having any reason to do so. It's an awkward discredit attempt because he can't do anything about my suspicion on him because it's accurate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.
What?

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Here are the posts that I could find that you "made around that time". Am I missing some? I only went two pages back looking for your posts. If I didn't miss any, I don't think this is that weird.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:17 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:08 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:06 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:04 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:57 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am I'd elim Michelle. Also this was a separate thought from IAWY asking about Michelle a few posts ago. I didn't see that post before I decided I'd elim Michelle.
Why?
Looked at a page of her ISO and got meh vibes.
Michelle having an ISO is Townie, she's quite quiet as Maf
I don't remember that from her wolf game.
Perhaps she does have wolf games where she's active? I've wooofed w/ her tho, and she was virtually silent, and I've towned against her and she was remarkably silent as well

I will keep this in mind.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 am

No.
Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
Idk how I find wolf!Falcon, I know how to find town!Falcon, and I find town!Falcon by figuring out how confortable he is.

show me his discomfort and I might agree.

I also don't understand why you townread WIlgy, but I also didn't read any of your posts about it.
This is Falcon's reaction to me pushing him. Pick out the one post I made around that time that isn't about him and vote for me without seemingly having any reason to do so. It's an awkward discredit attempt because he can't do anything about my suspicion on him because it's accurate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.
What?

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Here are the posts that I could find that you "made around that time". Am I missing some? I only went two pages back looking for your posts. If I didn't miss any, I don't think this is that weird.

Spoiler: show
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:05 pm lolwolves

Nutella being wrong isn't necessarily scum indicative but yaknow.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:16 pm Some of y'all got like 5% of my ENTIRE POST TOTAL ON SYNDICATE in just this one game, and I have no idea how you've done it
by being town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.

Right. It's posts where I accuse him and a post where I talk about Wilgy.

Falcon quotes the post about Wilgy instead of the posts about him and votes for me because ???

That's agenda. That's panic.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:12 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:23 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:19 am Also, I am missing anyone from the 'syndicaters' group in
{Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Pyxxy , Sprityo} ?
Maybe Nook or Wilg?

Cuz like, I still think that Tsp and now Dizzy kill points to someone in mafia that pays more attention to people from syndicate at the very least
Nook and Wilgy are syndicate regulars but...and don't take this the wrong way, guys, I don't think either of them, if wolves, are calling the kills itg. That is, it can only be broken clock style logically correct to accuse them of being wolves based on the nks.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:24 pm Which means likely wolf in Falcon, Pyxxy, Sprityo? I was under the impression Sprityo wasn't really playing.

I'mma look at Falcon. I'm good at reading Falcon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:26 pm Yeah so....this isn't town!Falcon.

I'm not gonna swear this is wolf!Falcon and not just NPC!Falcon but this isn't his town game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:18 pm I don't think that the idea that townies might not CC leads to the conclusion that scum might ever falseclaim. Sure, that might buy you a day but eventually, the actual town role is likely to flip or decide you're a wolf and fuck you over. Maybe people assume you're an NPC fucking about but idk, just seems like it's asking for trouble.

So basically, yeah, don't yeet Seanzie because he's not likely ever a wolf.
@Seanzie this string of posts

Okay, yeah... if Jack is going to clear Nook and Wilgy for not being the loudest voice in NK town, then paint Falcon? Nah. Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah. I didn't even read past the second quote. That's just ONE BIG NAH

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:19 am**

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:52 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:41 am Can someone who understands the underworld timezones tell me if day is ending in approximately 9 hours 19 minutes, or did I do it wrong?
Yes…n’t? I think you’re one hour ahead, it usually ends around 6PM EST, which is 8 hours 19 minutes from your post

So pull back an hour earlier I think

Less than 12 hours till Eod anyway

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:19 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:12 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:23 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:19 am Also, I am missing anyone from the 'syndicaters' group in
{Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Pyxxy , Sprityo} ?
Maybe Nook or Wilg?

Cuz like, I still think that Tsp and now Dizzy kill points to someone in mafia that pays more attention to people from syndicate at the very least
Nook and Wilgy are syndicate regulars but...and don't take this the wrong way, guys, I don't think either of them, if wolves, are calling the kills itg. That is, it can only be broken clock style logically correct to accuse them of being wolves based on the nks.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:24 pm Which means likely wolf in Falcon, Pyxxy, Sprityo? I was under the impression Sprityo wasn't really playing.

I'mma look at Falcon. I'm good at reading Falcon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:26 pm Yeah so....this isn't town!Falcon.

I'm not gonna swear this is wolf!Falcon and not just NPC!Falcon but this isn't his town game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:18 pm I don't think that the idea that townies might not CC leads to the conclusion that scum might ever falseclaim. Sure, that might buy you a day but eventually, the actual town role is likely to flip or decide you're a wolf and fuck you over. Maybe people assume you're an NPC fucking about but idk, just seems like it's asking for trouble.

So basically, yeah, don't yeet Seanzie because he's not likely ever a wolf.
@Seanzie this string of posts
Okay, yeah... if Jack is going to clear Nook and Wilgy for not being the loudest voice in NK town, then paint Falcon? Nah. Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah. I didn't even read past the second quote. That's just ONE BIG NAH

Okay, I read the other two posts. The fourth one is okay.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:20 am**

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am Hi Falcon
Bonjour
Parlez vous ‘Ndranghetais?

I dunno, I don't speak Romanian

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:20 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am

Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
Idk how I find wolf!Falcon, I know how to find town!Falcon, and I find town!Falcon by figuring out how confortable he is.

show me his discomfort and I might agree.

I also don't understand why you townread WIlgy, but I also didn't read any of your posts about it.
This is Falcon's reaction to me pushing him. Pick out the one post I made around that time that isn't about him and vote for me without seemingly having any reason to do so. It's an awkward discredit attempt because he can't do anything about my suspicion on him because it's accurate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.
What?

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Here are the posts that I could find that you "made around that time". Am I missing some? I only went two pages back looking for your posts. If I didn't miss any, I don't think this is that weird.

Spoiler: show
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:05 pm lolwolves

Nutella being wrong isn't necessarily scum indicative but yaknow.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:16 pm Some of y'all got like 5% of my ENTIRE POST TOTAL ON SYNDICATE in just this one game, and I have no idea how you've done it
by being town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.

Right. It's posts where I accuse him and a post where I talk about Wilgy.

Falcon quotes the post about Wilgy instead of the posts about him and votes for me because ???

That's agenda. That's panic.

No, that's you having a super questionable Wilgy read.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:20 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:12 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:23 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:19 am Also, I am missing anyone from the 'syndicaters' group in
{Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Pyxxy , Sprityo} ?
Maybe Nook or Wilg?

Cuz like, I still think that Tsp and now Dizzy kill points to someone in mafia that pays more attention to people from syndicate at the very least
Nook and Wilgy are syndicate regulars but...and don't take this the wrong way, guys, I don't think either of them, if wolves, are calling the kills itg. That is, it can only be broken clock style logically correct to accuse them of being wolves based on the nks.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:24 pm Which means likely wolf in Falcon, Pyxxy, Sprityo? I was under the impression Sprityo wasn't really playing.

I'mma look at Falcon. I'm good at reading Falcon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:26 pm Yeah so....this isn't town!Falcon.

I'm not gonna swear this is wolf!Falcon and not just NPC!Falcon but this isn't his town game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:18 pm I don't think that the idea that townies might not CC leads to the conclusion that scum might ever falseclaim. Sure, that might buy you a day but eventually, the actual town role is likely to flip or decide you're a wolf and fuck you over. Maybe people assume you're an NPC fucking about but idk, just seems like it's asking for trouble.

So basically, yeah, don't yeet Seanzie because he's not likely ever a wolf.
@Seanzie this string of posts
Okay, yeah... if Jack is going to clear Nook and Wilgy for not being the loudest voice in NK town, then paint Falcon? Nah. Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah. I didn't even read past the second quote. That's just ONE BIG NAH

I don't think NK analysis points to that group to begin with. It was a thing that convinced me to look at Falcon and when I did, I noticed Falcon was a wolf.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:22 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:15 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:11 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:07 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am

Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
There's whole lotta assumptions going on in this post.

I understand why you may be TR Wilgy....I just don't care
So what about me townreading Wilgy made you go "WHAT? Vote: Jack"?
Wilgy is more than capable of being "in the game" as wolf, and it strikes me as an odd way to read his slot
What about that makes you want to vote for me though?

I often vote for players who I feel give poor reasons for their town/scum reads. Fur reel

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:23 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:20 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am

He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
Idk how I find wolf!Falcon, I know how to find town!Falcon, and I find town!Falcon by figuring out how confortable he is.

show me his discomfort and I might agree.

I also don't understand why you townread WIlgy, but I also didn't read any of your posts about it.
This is Falcon's reaction to me pushing him. Pick out the one post I made around that time that isn't about him and vote for me without seemingly having any reason to do so. It's an awkward discredit attempt because he can't do anything about my suspicion on him because it's accurate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.
What?

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Here are the posts that I could find that you "made around that time". Am I missing some? I only went two pages back looking for your posts. If I didn't miss any, I don't think this is that weird.

Spoiler: show
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:05 pm lolwolves

Nutella being wrong isn't necessarily scum indicative but yaknow.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:16 pm Some of y'all got like 5% of my ENTIRE POST TOTAL ON SYNDICATE in just this one game, and I have no idea how you've done it
by being town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.

Right. It's posts where I accuse him and a post where I talk about Wilgy.

Falcon quotes the post about Wilgy instead of the posts about him and votes for me because ???

That's agenda. That's panic.
No, that's you having a super questionable Wilgy read.

Like... what response are you expecting from either of those other two posts? Do you find them to be conversation starters? Like maybe if Falcon wanted to talk about Nutella they could reply to the first, but if they don't have anything to say about Nutella, why would they? And the second post is clearly a conversation nonstarter. One big NAH

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:23 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:20 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am

He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
Idk how I find wolf!Falcon, I know how to find town!Falcon, and I find town!Falcon by figuring out how confortable he is.

show me his discomfort and I might agree.

I also don't understand why you townread WIlgy, but I also didn't read any of your posts about it.
This is Falcon's reaction to me pushing him. Pick out the one post I made around that time that isn't about him and vote for me without seemingly having any reason to do so. It's an awkward discredit attempt because he can't do anything about my suspicion on him because it's accurate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.
What?

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Here are the posts that I could find that you "made around that time". Am I missing some? I only went two pages back looking for your posts. If I didn't miss any, I don't think this is that weird.

Spoiler: show
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:05 pm lolwolves

Nutella being wrong isn't necessarily scum indicative but yaknow.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:16 pm Some of y'all got like 5% of my ENTIRE POST TOTAL ON SYNDICATE in just this one game, and I have no idea how you've done it
by being town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.

Right. It's posts where I accuse him and a post where I talk about Wilgy.

Falcon quotes the post about Wilgy instead of the posts about him and votes for me because ???

That's agenda. That's panic.
No, that's you having a super questionable Wilgy read.

Falcon has failed to explain what is wolfy about my Wilgy read. Because there's nothing about my Wilgy read that's wolfy. You can disagree with it all day but there's a reason that you and Porscha find the read questionable and didn't jump to voting for me whereas Falcon immediately did. Falcon does not have the same town pov so they did not question my read to try to understand it or determine my alignment. In fact, Falcon has said he doesn't even care about my Wilgy read. He's not interested in solving my slot or indeed anyone's slot. He's coasting. He's faking. He's a wolf.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:23 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:15 am ? Why would I have 'specific reasons' to agree with a read?

I see a read, agree with the thought process/arguments behind it, and I sheep.

Like, I can also agree with it because Falcon was PoE and stuff for me but dont get the last part of 'having reasons that im recluctant to share' . Where does that come from?

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am Like.
Player A comes in and says that B is mafia because they posted three times.

Do I have to have another reason to agree with a read like that? Or another motivation on *why* I think its correct? Like wowee I think its correct because I agree with the fundamentals smh

False equivalency, that has not been Falcon’s state in this game at all and comparing it to a “barely-posted = scummy” read also dismisses Jack’s reasons as trivial at the same time. You’re avoiding the question

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:24 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:50 am

Why? What is townie about Falcon?
He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
Idk how I find wolf!Falcon, I know how to find town!Falcon, and I find town!Falcon by figuring out how confortable he is.

show me his discomfort and I might agree.

I also don't understand why you townread WIlgy, but I also didn't read any of your posts about it.
This is Falcon's reaction to me pushing him. Pick out the one post I made around that time that isn't about him and vote for me without seemingly having any reason to do so. It's an awkward discredit attempt because he can't do anything about my suspicion on him because it's accurate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.
What?

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Here are the posts that I could find that you "made around that time". Am I missing some? I only went two pages back looking for your posts. If I didn't miss any, I don't think this is that weird.

Spoiler: show
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:05 pm lolwolves

Nutella being wrong isn't necessarily scum indicative but yaknow.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:16 pm Some of y'all got like 5% of my ENTIRE POST TOTAL ON SYNDICATE in just this one game, and I have no idea how you've done it
by being town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.

Right. It's posts where I accuse him and a post where I talk about Wilgy.

Falcon quotes the post about Wilgy instead of the posts about him and votes for me because ???

That's agenda. That's panic.

falcon rarely, if ever, panics.

He's read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, including the cover

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:24 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:20 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:12 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:23 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:19 am Also, I am missing anyone from the 'syndicaters' group in
{Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Pyxxy , Sprityo} ?
Maybe Nook or Wilg?

Cuz like, I still think that Tsp and now Dizzy kill points to someone in mafia that pays more attention to people from syndicate at the very least
Nook and Wilgy are syndicate regulars but...and don't take this the wrong way, guys, I don't think either of them, if wolves, are calling the kills itg. That is, it can only be broken clock style logically correct to accuse them of being wolves based on the nks.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:24 pm Which means likely wolf in Falcon, Pyxxy, Sprityo? I was under the impression Sprityo wasn't really playing.

I'mma look at Falcon. I'm good at reading Falcon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:26 pm Yeah so....this isn't town!Falcon.

I'm not gonna swear this is wolf!Falcon and not just NPC!Falcon but this isn't his town game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:18 pm I don't think that the idea that townies might not CC leads to the conclusion that scum might ever falseclaim. Sure, that might buy you a day but eventually, the actual town role is likely to flip or decide you're a wolf and fuck you over. Maybe people assume you're an NPC fucking about but idk, just seems like it's asking for trouble.

So basically, yeah, don't yeet Seanzie because he's not likely ever a wolf.
@Seanzie this string of posts
Okay, yeah... if Jack is going to clear Nook and Wilgy for not being the loudest voice in NK town, then paint Falcon? Nah. Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah. I didn't even read past the second quote. That's just ONE BIG NAH
I don't think NK analysis points to that group to begin with. It was a thing that convinced me to look at Falcon and when I did, I noticed Falcon was a wolf.

So zero of these posts have an actual case on Falcon then. What do you think of Santygrass using this as an excuse to vote Falcon then?

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:25 am**

Also, if u skim / read a 250 posts ISO and the reason to scumread someone is that its just 'MEH' then that shouldnt be even taken into consideration as a read sorry not sorry.

For example, I think the offense Michelle took when threadstate treated poorly or pushed Wilg and Ender was quite towny . And other slots that I think read Michelle better said that Michelle was prob town so /shrug. Without a better reason I dont see why doubt that read.
And like, Michelle is one lf the highest presence posters in thread overall since D1 tbh and thats also Villa indicative

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:25 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:20 am
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am Hi Falcon
Bonjour
Parlez vous ‘Ndranghetais?
I dunno, I don't speak Romanian

Clever

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:26 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:23 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:20 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Spoiler: show
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:00 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am

Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
Idk how I find wolf!Falcon, I know how to find town!Falcon, and I find town!Falcon by figuring out how confortable he is.

show me his discomfort and I might agree.

I also don't understand why you townread WIlgy, but I also didn't read any of your posts about it.
This is Falcon's reaction to me pushing him. Pick out the one post I made around that time that isn't about him and vote for me without seemingly having any reason to do so. It's an awkward discredit attempt because he can't do anything about my suspicion on him because it's accurate.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm

Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.
What?

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

Here are the posts that I could find that you "made around that time". Am I missing some? I only went two pages back looking for your posts. If I didn't miss any, I don't think this is that weird.

Spoiler: show
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:05 pm lolwolves

Nutella being wrong isn't necessarily scum indicative but yaknow.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:16 pm Some of y'all got like 5% of my ENTIRE POST TOTAL ON SYNDICATE in just this one game, and I have no idea how you've done it
by being town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:46 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.

Right. It's posts where I accuse him and a post where I talk about Wilgy.

Falcon quotes the post about Wilgy instead of the posts about him and votes for me because ???

That's agenda. That's panic.
No, that's you having a super questionable Wilgy read.
Falcon has failed to explain what is wolfy about my Wilgy read. Because there's nothing about my Wilgy read that's wolfy. You can disagree with it all day but there's a reason that you and Porscha find the read questionable and didn't jump to voting for me whereas Falcon immediately did. Falcon does not have the same town pov so they did not question my read to try to understand it or determine my alignment. In fact, Falcon has said he doesn't even care about my Wilgy read. He's not interested in solving my slot or indeed anyone's slot. He's coasting. He's faking. He's a wolf.

I don't see it.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:27 am**

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:23 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:15 am ? Why would I have 'specific reasons' to agree with a read?

I see a read, agree with the thought process/arguments behind it, and I sheep.

Like, I can also agree with it because Falcon was PoE and stuff for me but dont get the last part of 'having reasons that im recluctant to share' . Where does that come from?

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am Like.
Player A comes in and says that B is mafia because they posted three times.

Do I have to have another reason to agree with a read like that? Or another motivation on *why* I think its correct? Like wowee I think its correct because I agree with the fundamentals smh
False equivalency, that has not been Falcon’s state in this game at all and comparing it to a “barely-posted = scummy” read also dismisses Jack’s reasons as trivial at the same time. You’re avoiding the question

I think either I am not understanding your question at all or it is a slander on sheeping and a big moot point to follow.

I am not doing an equivalency, my point is that agreeing to a read should be enough to sheep someone and you questioning that just feels pointless to me, there is no need to have 'another reason' to agree with a read

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:27 am**

Santy is the obvious wolf here.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:27 am**

[VOTE: Santygrass] aubergine

Flame fanner.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:27 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:22 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:15 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:11 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:07 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:53 am

He has not stricken me as particularly uncomfortable. I am not like 100% sold on town!Falcon yet, but I know I'll be able to sort him as time goes on. I'm at like 80% town Falcon, and if he likes good music, it might go up to 90% (this last part is a joke... it'd be 99.98%).
Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
There's whole lotta assumptions going on in this post.

I understand why you may be TR Wilgy....I just don't care
So what about me townreading Wilgy made you go "WHAT? Vote: Jack"?
Wilgy is more than capable of being "in the game" as wolf, and it strikes me as an odd way to read his slot
What about that makes you want to vote for me though?
I often vote for players who I feel give poor reasons for their town/scum reads. Fur reel

So you think I'm a wolf because I didn't give a good enough reason for scumreading Wilgy? Lol. No you don't.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:23 am Like... what response are you expecting from either of those other two posts? Do you find them to be conversation starters? Like maybe if Falcon wanted to talk about Nutella they could reply to the first, but if they don't have anything to say about Nutella, why would they? And the second post is clearly a conversation nonstarter. One big NAH

I expect if Falcon is a townie that actually scumreads me, he's gonna do it because I'm pushing him in a way that would feel unfair to town Falcon, not because I didn't explain my read on Wilgy well enough. But wolf!Falcon would rather I talk about my Wilgy read than talk about my Falcon read so he points to the Wilgy read as the problem and then can't really tell you why it's a problem. Because it isn't about which post is objectively more scummy. It's about trying to redirect me and make me look bad. It's fake hunting.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:28 am**

And if Santy isn't IAWY is.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:28 am**

But that one I'm not so sure about.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:28 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:24 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:20 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:18 am
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:12 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:23 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:19 am Also, I am missing anyone from the 'syndicaters' group in
{Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Pyxxy , Sprityo} ?
Maybe Nook or Wilg?

Cuz like, I still think that Tsp and now Dizzy kill points to someone in mafia that pays more attention to people from syndicate at the very least
Nook and Wilgy are syndicate regulars but...and don't take this the wrong way, guys, I don't think either of them, if wolves, are calling the kills itg. That is, it can only be broken clock style logically correct to accuse them of being wolves based on the nks.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:24 pm Which means likely wolf in Falcon, Pyxxy, Sprityo? I was under the impression Sprityo wasn't really playing.

I'mma look at Falcon. I'm good at reading Falcon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:26 pm Yeah so....this isn't town!Falcon.

I'm not gonna swear this is wolf!Falcon and not just NPC!Falcon but this isn't his town game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:18 pm I don't think that the idea that townies might not CC leads to the conclusion that scum might ever falseclaim. Sure, that might buy you a day but eventually, the actual town role is likely to flip or decide you're a wolf and fuck you over. Maybe people assume you're an NPC fucking about but idk, just seems like it's asking for trouble.

So basically, yeah, don't yeet Seanzie because he's not likely ever a wolf.
@Seanzie this string of posts
Okay, yeah... if Jack is going to clear Nook and Wilgy for not being the loudest voice in NK town, then paint Falcon? Nah. Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah nah. I didn't even read past the second quote. That's just ONE BIG NAH
I don't think NK analysis points to that group to begin with. It was a thing that convinced me to look at Falcon and when I did, I noticed Falcon was a wolf.
So zero of these posts have an actual case on Falcon then. What do you think of Santygrass using this as an excuse to vote Falcon then?

I put it as to why I think Jack is town, not to justify my vote on Falcon wowee

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:29 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:26 am I don't see it.

That's ultimately okay because I don't think you have a vote anyhow.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:29 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:27 am Santy is the obvious wolf here.

For anyone that has half a memory and can connect two obvious point from a basic wagon and game analysis I should be town cleared and had explained it more than a couple times but anyone that 'scumreads' me cant even counter it and its just sad at this point because is people prob not caring to do an effort solving fwiw

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:30 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:27 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:22 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:15 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:11 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:07 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:05 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:56 am

Lol first of all, "uncomfortable" is not the way to find wolf Falcon. It's "lacking townie fire."

Secondly, Falcon is voting the player pushing him hard because he doesn't understand why I townread Wilgy. That looks pretty uncomfortable and awkward by any reasonable standard.
There's whole lotta assumptions going on in this post.

I understand why you may be TR Wilgy....I just don't care
So what about me townreading Wilgy made you go "WHAT? Vote: Jack"?
Wilgy is more than capable of being "in the game" as wolf, and it strikes me as an odd way to read his slot
What about that makes you want to vote for me though?
I often vote for players who I feel give poor reasons for their town/scum reads. Fur reel
So you think I'm a wolf because I didn't give a good enough reason for scumreading Wilgy? Lol. No you don't.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:23 am Like... what response are you expecting from either of those other two posts? Do you find them to be conversation starters? Like maybe if Falcon wanted to talk about Nutella they could reply to the first, but if they don't have anything to say about Nutella, why would they? And the second post is clearly a conversation nonstarter. One big NAH
I expect if Falcon is a townie that actually scumreads me, he's gonna do it because I'm pushing him in a way that would feel unfair to town Falcon, not because I didn't explain my read on Wilgy well enough. But wolf!Falcon would rather I talk about my Wilgy read than talk about my Falcon read so he points to the Wilgy read as the problem and then can't really tell you why it's a problem. Because it isn't about which post is objectively more scummy. It's about trying to redirect me and make me look bad. It's fake hunting.

I will take your view into account and consider it. Right now, I don't think Falcon is as sure of a hit as you do, and I don't think they're a good elim today. I am not convinced they're town, which does worry me, but I also only started playing like 12 hours ago, so I'd like some more time to sort a slot I've had extremely good accuracy sorting and that often is a miselim and rarely is deepwolf.

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:30 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:28 am And if Santy isn't IAWY is.

How are my and INAWY alignments connected at all? Just wowee reads all along tbh

Posted: **Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:31 am**

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:29 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:27 am Santy is the obvious wolf here.
For anyone that has half a memory and can connect two obvious point from a basic wagon and game analysis I should be town cleared and had explained it more than a couple times but anyone that 'scumreads' me cant even counter it and its just sad at this point because is people prob not caring to do an effort solving fwiw

You can quote a relevant towncase on you if you wish. I will read it and consider it.

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