The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:49 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:47 pm
Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:57 pm I just don’t understand what I did wrong. This game was hard to follow given all the claims and confusion while I’m on vacation.
People I thought were wolves have claimed roles and should be town.
There’s people like KZA I really liked all game all of a sudden believing and pushing this plan of a “red” peek. This is highly suspicious. It seems to me they are trying to get me to claim my role and what info I might have. Chardonnay has been scum all game.
Nutella now feels more town since I think Mac is scum. Mac is right in like with the plan kza and char are pushing.
Michelle was scum, that was heart breaking. Feel stupid.

Sean is townie, I had my reasons to distrust but they sound genuine. Ignore if he’s very good at faking this, idk.

I have reasons to believe some of the more clear claims alive must be scum who guessed or have info about roles they can safely claim. Most games have this and this is why is very bad to claim.
Mac is an example of that. He wants to draw out the real cop by faking a red on me since cop would have to out to Challenge his claim.
what

I thought you faked a red check on me. I must have confused Mac and KZA? I don’t know what’s going on right now.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:49 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:45 pm Well my check on Grogu is somewhat obviously fake so we can unvote him for now, I was following a cue on that one

I may still be Spider Man Noir, wolves better soup me first to check

I don't really get why Jack sat there undermining my play then going "haha I'm gonna get scumread for this" as if to cover his ass so yeah I'm voting there now

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

... what?

what?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:50 pm**

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:47 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:45 pm Well my check on Grogu is somewhat obviously fake so we can unvote him for now, I was following a cue on that one

I may still be Spider Man Noir, wolves better soup me first to check

I don't really get why Jack sat there undermining my play then going "haha I'm gonna get scumread for this" as if to cover his ass so yeah I'm voting there now

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine
Are you saying that you also fake checked me? Am I confused or I thought Mac did it?

No I did it. It was a test and also done to confuse the wolves on who the real Noir is. Mac was just following my lead.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:50 pm**

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:47 pm
Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:57 pm I just don’t understand what I did wrong. This game was hard to follow given all the claims and confusion while I’m on vacation.
People I thought were wolves have claimed roles and should be town.
There’s people like KZA I really liked all game all of a sudden believing and pushing this plan of a “red” peek. This is highly suspicious. It seems to me they are trying to get me to claim my role and what info I might have. Chardonnay has been scum all game.
Nutella now feels more town since I think Mac is scum. Mac is right in like with the plan kza and char are pushing.
Michelle was scum, that was heart breaking. Feel stupid.

Sean is townie, I had my reasons to distrust but they sound genuine. Ignore if he’s very good at faking this, idk.

I have reasons to believe some of the more clear claims alive must be scum who guessed or have info about roles they can safely claim. Most games have this and this is why is very bad to claim.
Mac is an example of that. He wants to draw out the real cop by faking a red on me since cop would have to out to Challenge his claim.
what
I thought you faked a red check on me. I must have confused Mac and KZA? I don’t know what’s going on right now.

I did fake a red check on you, but everyone in the game except you knew I was faking it.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:51 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:48 pm
Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:46 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:42 pm Like not only was the logic implored by all parties awful, and look even worse when we remember Michelle’s flip, but like how does G-man make this mistake.

from his position he’s not like “uhh hmm maybe one of them isn’t lying...” HE KNOW IM LYING, he knows Michelle is lying too!!

HOW!!???!

Make it make sense
What are you saying?
G-man “was” cosmic spider
Michelle claimed Cosmic spider before dying
I counter claimed (it seemed like a good idea at the time, and worked out so )
Gman knows that both of us are lying, and decides to vote Kyle

Like what???????

I don’t even need support at this point, just acknowledge me.

This make no sense. Right?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:52 pm**

@Made you should probably just let it go and maybe chalk it up to G-man trying to conceal his role.

Unless you want to believe an item was tampered with or Omega lied to us, neither of which seems likely.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:52 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:51 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:48 pm
Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:46 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:42 pm Like not only was the logic implored by all parties awful, and look even worse when we remember Michelle’s flip, but like how does G-man make this mistake.

from his position he’s not like “uhh hmm maybe one of them isn’t lying...” HE KNOW IM LYING, he knows Michelle is lying too!!

HOW!!???!

Make it make sense
What are you saying?
G-man “was” cosmic spider
Michelle claimed Cosmic spider before dying
I counter claimed (it seemed like a good idea at the time, and worked out so )
Gman knows that both of us are lying, and decides to vote Kyle

Like what???????
I don’t even need support at this point, just acknowledge me.

This make no sense. Right?

yeah no u right

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:53 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:48 pm
Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:46 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:42 pm Like not only was the logic implored by all parties awful, and look even worse when we remember Michelle’s flip, but like how does G-man make this mistake.

from his position he’s not like “uhh hmm maybe one of them isn’t lying...” HE KNOW IM LYING, he knows Michelle is lying too!!

HOW!!???!

Make it make sense
What are you saying?
G-man “was” cosmic spider
Michelle claimed Cosmic spider before dying
I counter claimed (it seemed like a good idea at the time, and worked out so )
Gman knows that both of us are lying, and decides to vote Kyle

Like what???????

Oh wow. Didn’t gman get hanged? How did that happen. I think it was a very bad play from you. Very scummy if you ask me. It got michelle but it could have been worse. It did kill a wolf but imagine it didn’t? You out the cop and die if you were wrong on michelle. I was shocked she was scum and I had her as lock town and even I believed your claim. I didn’t know it was possible to fake claims like that, I am personally against that. Worked out though

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:54 pm**

Maybe G-Man was the seemer and carried a factional kill to Superior Spider-Man and the Soup was in addition to the factional.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:54 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:52 pm @Made you should probably just let it go and maybe chalk it up to G-man trying to conceal his role.

Unless you want to believe an item was tampered with or Omega lied to us, neither of which seems likely.

No shade, but with both players VALID play styles in mind, isn’t it more likely that omega lies here than G-man does?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:55 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:50 pm
Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:47 pm
Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:57 pm I just don’t understand what I did wrong. This game was hard to follow given all the claims and confusion while I’m on vacation.
People I thought were wolves have claimed roles and should be town.
There’s people like KZA I really liked all game all of a sudden believing and pushing this plan of a “red” peek. This is highly suspicious. It seems to me they are trying to get me to claim my role and what info I might have. Chardonnay has been scum all game.
Nutella now feels more town since I think Mac is scum. Mac is right in like with the plan kza and char are pushing.
Michelle was scum, that was heart breaking. Feel stupid.

Sean is townie, I had my reasons to distrust but they sound genuine. Ignore if he’s very good at faking this, idk.

I have reasons to believe some of the more clear claims alive must be scum who guessed or have info about roles they can safely claim. Most games have this and this is why is very bad to claim.
Mac is an example of that. He wants to draw out the real cop by faking a red on me since cop would have to out to Challenge his claim.
what
I thought you faked a red check on me. I must have confused Mac and KZA? I don’t know what’s going on right now.
I did fake a red check on you, but everyone in the game except you knew I was faking it.

Not true, I knew you were faking it. I figured you were a lying wolf, I could not believe there was any other plausible way for you to be the real cop and get a red check on me.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:56 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:54 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:52 pm @Made you should probably just let it go and maybe chalk it up to G-man trying to conceal his role.

Unless you want to believe an item was tampered with or Omega lied to us, neither of which seems likely.
No shade, but with both players VALID play styles in mind, isn’t it more likely that omega lies here than G-man does?

Why would she lie to the town with her last allowed post on something as important as whether or not the seemer is dead? That would literally be playing against her win-con

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:57 pm**

Gman not the cop imo. Wolves have a faker role

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:58 pm**

She could have wrong info. Would that be possible? I am not sure, someone smart check the roles.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:59 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:56 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:54 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:52 pm @Made you should probably just let it go and maybe chalk it up to G-man trying to conceal his role.

Unless you want to believe an item was tampered with or Omega lied to us, neither of which seems likely.
No shade, but with both players VALID play styles in mind, isn’t it more likely that omega lies here than G-man does?
Why would she lie to the town with her last allowed post on something as important as whether or not the seemer is dead? That would literally be playing against her win-con

Unless it keeps her alive because the soup on her misses. It’s risky, but still plausible. I don’t remember reywas confirming the thing he gave Doom was a seemer detector. Did that happen somewhere?

I guess to say it another way, I think we should keep a healthy amount of sus on Gil and Mac here. Nothing has to vote her right away, but it’s worth keeping in the back of the mind.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:00 pm**

I'm at the point where your tunneling onto me just makes me think you're mafia Made.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:00 pm**

Just keep in mind there’s 1 hour u til I die and I will flip town. The fact no activity is really happening should trigger your spidy senses that this is a mishang. It is very obvious from my point of view and should be at least somewhat obvious from yours.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:00 pm**

Imma look thru the iso again. Maybe I’m just missing it

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:00 pm**

guys i'm really pretty sure gman was trying to maintain the cover and omega was correct and we should just stop worrying about that

also [VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:01 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:00 pm I'm at the point where your tunneling onto me just makes me think you're mafia Made.

I’m stupid regardless of alignment Mac, you should know this

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:01 pm**

@KZA why did you unvote Grogu?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:01 pm**

or epi. i still think him accidentally getting guillo's claim was weird and actually accidental but i still think he's likely mafia

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:01 pm**

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:00 pm Just keep in mind there’s 1 hour u til I die and I will flip town. The fact no activity is really happening should trigger your spidy senses that this is a mishang. It is very obvious from my point of view and should be at least somewhat obvious from yours.

No we have another day, I wouldn't have waited this long to rescind.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:02 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:01 pm @KZA why did you unvote Grogu?

I prefer Jack?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:02 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:59 pm I don’t remember reywas confirming the thing he gave Doom was a seemer detector. Did that happen somewhere?

yes

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:02 pm**

Like Grogu could still be Mafia but Jack's approach to the fake red was so weird

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:02 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:59 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:56 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:54 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:52 pm @Made you should probably just let it go and maybe chalk it up to G-man trying to conceal his role.

Unless you want to believe an item was tampered with or Omega lied to us, neither of which seems likely.
No shade, but with both players VALID play styles in mind, isn’t it more likely that omega lies here than G-man does?
Why would she lie to the town with her last allowed post on something as important as whether or not the seemer is dead? That would literally be playing against her win-con
Unless it keeps her alive because the soup on her misses. It’s risky, but still plausible. I don’t remember reywas confirming the thing he gave Doom was a seemer detector. Did that happen somewhere?

I guess to say it another way, I think we should keep a healthy amount of sus on Gil and Mac here. Nothing has to vote her right away, but it’s worth keeping in the back of the mind.

How is Gil connected to Mac?
I do think Mac is scum. I am guessing it was KZA who faked the red but Mac went with it knowing it was wrong.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:01 pm @KZA why did you unvote Grogu?
I prefer Jack?

you... what?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm**

grogu is just outed mafia, I have no idea what kza is doing

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:02 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:59 pm I don’t remember reywas confirming the thing he gave Doom was a seemer detector. Did that happen somewhere?
yes

I found it. I’m cool for now, but like damn this game is crazy.

Imma go do yoga

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm**

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:52 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:49 pm Let me say this, we can't trust flips in this game. I can test one person who dies, but don't forget that a mafia role is allowed to pick who they flip as.
What? Lol that’s not what you got.

She got a spider tracker. She will be told when the seemer is killed

@Made

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:04 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:01 pm or epi. i still think him accidentally getting guillo's claim was weird and actually accidental but i still think he's likely mafia

How did Eli get guillo s claim?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:05 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm grogu is just outed mafia, I have no idea what kza is doing

???mac what

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:05 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm grogu is just outed mafia, I have no idea what kza is doing

Why is he outed? He seems very confused and I seriously can't tell if it's real or an act

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:05 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm grogu is just outed mafia, I have no idea what kza is doing

Explain?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:07 pm**

Wow Nutella really stepped it up now. Almost 1k post

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:07 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm grogu is just outed mafia, I have no idea what kza is doing
Why is he outed? He seems very confused and I seriously can't tell if it's real or an act

bruh what the fuck are you talking about?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:07 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:05 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm grogu is just outed mafia, I have no idea what kza is doing
???mac what

i don't want to have to spell this out

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:08 pm**

fine i really am the cop and i really do have a red check on grogu

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:09 pm**

I’m not acting KZA. Everyone claiming and lying left and right and game is a mess for me. So many people claim fake checks and info

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:09 pm**

What? I'm the cop and have a red check with Grogu.

Mac and I have been communicating with braille this entire plan.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:10 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:59 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:56 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:54 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:52 pm @Made you should probably just let it go and maybe chalk it up to G-man trying to conceal his role.

Unless you want to believe an item was tampered with or Omega lied to us, neither of which seems likely.
No shade, but with both players VALID play styles in mind, isn’t it more likely that omega lies here than G-man does?
Why would she lie to the town with her last allowed post on something as important as whether or not the seemer is dead? That would literally be playing against her win-con
Unless it keeps her alive because the soup on her misses. It’s risky, but still plausible. I don’t remember reywas confirming the thing he gave Doom was a seemer detector. Did that happen somewhere?

I guess to say it another way, I think we should keep a healthy amount of sus on Gil and Mac here. Nothing has to vote her right away, but it’s worth keeping in the back of the mind.

Dude, am I missing something here? There are a lot of reasons why Gman may have did what he did (such as realizing that there is almost no chances that two wolves claimed, then CC'd his role, so chances are one of you was town trying to protect his role by CCing in his place [possibly with some NA info or something]), and he didn't want to out himself dealing with it. He probably just didn't have a good read on which of you was the wolf?), but like... in your tinfoil universe where Gman is seemer... how are you coming to the conclusion that Guillo would be wolf who hammered the seemer, just to have the seemer flip town, making Guillo look bad because of the midday hammer on town?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:10 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:09 pm What? I'm the cop and have a red check with Grogu.

Mac and I have been communicating with braille this entire plan.

@Grogu this is a joke post btw don't get even more confused by it

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:11 pm**

[VOTE: Grogu] aubergine

k let's just do it

Jack is a very good shout for a teammate tho

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:12 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:08 pm fine i really am the cop and i really do have a red check on grogu

Sir, you need to stop this. If you feel that strongly to lie just understand I am town and when I die, you die next. Do not do this!

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:12 pm**

If Mac doesn’t retract we should kill him.

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:13 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:09 pm What? I'm the cop and have a red check with Grogu.

Mac and I have been communicating with braille this entire plan.

It has to be. I am ToWn

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:14 pm**

Mac is a liar. Vote him

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:15 pm**

Look I may be a liar, but I am absolutely not... what was that other thing you said?

Posted: **Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:16 pm**

I don’t have a team. No one is standing up for me, this is sad. I am such an easy target, I can’t defend against this. I am town and wolves working together to bully me here.

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