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Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:56 am
by dunya
so yeah, i'm caught up.
thoughts: TH is either bad, or he has some kind of direct tunnel vision and he has it focused on jack. also, could be 3p with the way he's playing afraid of actually contributing to any close tie lynches and voting off point whenever there are 2 lynch options and only hopped on the two leading bandwagons of speed and colin which had no counterwagons. that kinda makes the most sense to me actually.
i need to finish the wolbre iso cos he's left me with the most wtfs so far. then I'll look into Kyle and concentrate on Colin/speed partnership cos I didn't realize he could be the speed busser.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:57 am
by dunya
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 10:55 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 10:51 am
oh I got to the part where jack made kyle aggro angry. awkward af.
Like fake awkward or just awjward awkward?
well, he said "jesus fuck" then "jesus christ" in succession. and he had to go drink water to calm down, so whatever his alignment, I think you genuinely made him a little angry.

Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:58 am
by Kylemii
dunya why are you confident that Nova is good?
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:00 am
by Turnip Head
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 10:56 am
so yeah, i'm caught up.
thoughts: TH is either bad, or he has some kind of direct tunnel vision and he has it focused on jack. also, could be 3p with the way he's playing afraid of actually contributing to any close tie lynches and voting off point whenever there are 2 lynch options and only hopped on the two leading bandwagons of speed and colin which had no counterwagons. that kinda makes the most sense to me actually.
i need to finish the wolbre iso cos he's left me with the most wtfs so far. then I'll look into Kyle and concentrate on Colin/speed partnership cos I didn't realize he could be the speed busser.
TH could also just be providing
keen insight and getting lucky or whatever
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:04 am
by Marmot
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 10:41 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 10:32 am
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 10:30 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 10:23 am
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:16 pm
Jack's game changed completely once Day 5 started. It's impossible for me to unsee it.
he was part of the IDGaF team before day 5 (before catching some heat). so TH, the question is: does change = bad?
The question is did Jack have a bad change or a good one
you're clearly interpreting his change as a bad thing and I want to know why. you're using change as a scum tell and that's not at all what pinged me in Jack so walk me through it.
I'm not using "change" as a scum tell. I'm saying he tipped his hand when he changed. And his hand just happens to be... allegedly... Persian.
That's what Jack wants you to think.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:06 am
by Marmot
It is strange to me when Sloonei and wolbre cast shade on each other.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:06 am
by dunya
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 10:58 am
dunya why are you confident that Nova is good?
I look at the Colin push. that wasn't distancing, that was serious push. also, despite disappearing, nova played a busy game by nova standards. I've been scum with nova before and he is definitely not a shit stirrer, or a busser. he pretty much avoided me and G-Man in Image mafia completely iirc. also I always put myself in other people's shoes. if I was on that scum team, would I do what nova did to Colin? no. speed would have had a seizure if he saw that happening, pretty sure. speed's role encourages a bussing at some point of the game--I don't think they actively set out to bus two people that early on. there's so much that doesn't add up.
if nova is scum in the end, I owe you all a huge apology cos I know I've been pushing his innocence the most, but I'm pretty confident in him. the only thing I hate is how quiet he's gone.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:07 am
by Marmot
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 10:56 am
so yeah, i'm caught up.
thoughts: TH is either bad, or he has some kind of direct tunnel vision and he has it focused on jack. also, could be 3p with the way he's playing afraid of actually contributing to any close tie lynches and voting off point whenever there are 2 lynch options and only hopped on the two leading bandwagons of speed and colin which had no counterwagons. that kinda makes the most sense to me actually.
i need to finish the wolbre iso cos he's left me with the most wtfs so far. then I'll look into Kyle and concentrate on Colin/speed partnership cos I didn't realize he could be the speed busser.
A player tunneling on the most townie player in the game? That's a civtell to me, especially in this scenario of almost lylo.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:10 am
by dunya
nova has 105 posts. this is his most active game on this forum, and he's been mia more or less since May 5th. so imagine if he continued his involvement.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:11 am
by dunya
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:07 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 10:56 am
so yeah, i'm caught up.
thoughts: TH is either bad, or he has some kind of direct tunnel vision and he has it focused on jack. also, could be 3p with the way he's playing afraid of actually contributing to any close tie lynches and voting off point whenever there are 2 lynch options and only hopped on the two leading bandwagons of speed and colin which had no counterwagons. that kinda makes the most sense to me actually.
i need to finish the wolbre iso cos he's left me with the most wtfs so far. then I'll look into Kyle and concentrate on Colin/speed partnership cos I didn't realize he could be the speed busser.
A player tunneling on the most townie player in the game? That's a civtell to me, especially in this scenario of almost lylo.
you think Jack is the most townie player in the game?
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:12 am
by Marmot
Yes, yes I do.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:13 am
by Marmot
I'd like to hear more from both [mention]novaselinenever[/mention] and [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]. Where you both at?
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:14 am
by dunya
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:12 amYes, yes I do.
and you think TH is the second towniest?
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:16 am
by Turnip Head
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:12 amYes, yes I do.
It's like Harry Potter Mafia but Jack is me, I'm you, and you're Epignosis

Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:17 am
by Marmot
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:14 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:12 amYes, yes I do.
and you think TH is the second towniest?
I suppose so.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:18 am
by Marmot
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:16 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:12 amYes, yes I do.
It's like Harry Potter Mafia but Jack is me, I'm you, and you're Epignosis
I was a confirmed, unkillable civilian in that game too.

Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:19 am
by dunya
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:17 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:14 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:12 amYes, yes I do.
and you think TH is the second towniest?
I suppose so.
and you think I'm bad?
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Night 7]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:20 am
by Marmot
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 9:21 pm
Oh bam! Front page says Quin was loyal to Persia.
We didn’t need him dead but it’s somewhat of a plus, especially if he counts for majority.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:26 am
by Kylemii
[mention]dunya[/mention] I don't agree about Nova RE: Colin. He talks negatively about Colin sure but he never pushes his lynch. He was never a primary advocate of Colin's lynch and at some points even at some points resisting it, though by the means of criticizing Colin's voters and the Colin wagon.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Night 7]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:26 am
by Marmot
Alright, I'll entertain the notion Jack is mafia, here's why.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 9:15 pm
Well, that mostly sucks but on the plus side, we’ve lowered our POE by 2 and I think there are some strong town voices and confirmed Marmot to get us the win going forward. And who knows? Maybe only one 3P could join each faction and Quin was bad anyway.
Jack made this post after Quin's flip. Had Jack bothered reading Quin's death post, he'd have known that Quin was sided with Persia (
Jay wrote it up that way).
But Jack didn't realize it immediately upon Quin's death, but did after checking the front page.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 9:21 pm
Oh bam! Front page says Quin was loyal to Persia.
We didn’t need him dead but it’s somewhat of a plus, especially if he counts for majority.
This looks like a fake reaction. First one says "Oh hey, I hope Quin was bad" before he checked the front page to verify. Well, if Jack was mafia, he would have known that Quin was sided with him right? He wouldn't have needed to read Quin's deathpost for that information.
Turnip Head, have I sufficiently entered the tunnel yet?
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:33 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:12 amYes, yes I do.
I’m sorry for my part in almost getting you lynched.

Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:35 am
by Kylemii
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] thoughts on Nova?
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:35 am
by Marmot
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:33 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:12 amYes, yes I do.
I’m sorry for my part in almost getting you lynched.
Keep reading, I may have changed my mind.

Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:36 am
by dunya
how would baddie jack know Quin was persian-aligned?
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:37 am
by Marmot
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:36 am
how would baddie jack know Quin was persian-aligned?
Good question, I was operating under the assumption that the baddies do.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:39 am
by Jackofhearts2005
I’ve isoed Nova’s Colin comments awhile back and I agree with Dunya. (Why did I go back on Nova? I reached this conclusion as part of why I went after Scotty.)
I’m going to read them in context to see if I agree with Kyle that it wasn’t a push. Cause iirc, it was a pretty substantial portion of Nova’s iso and I don’t remember him seriously pushing any other suspects.
Nova is low hanging fruit for a mislynch so (and I get that this should apply to me) going after Nova today should be seen with suspicion, hence
a portion of my turn on my Kyle read.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:39 am
by dunya
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:26 am
@dunya I don't agree about Nova RE: Colin. He talks negatively about Colin sure but he never pushes his lynch. He was never a primary advocate of Colin's lynch and at some points even at some points resisting it, though by the means of criticizing Colin's voters and the Colin wagon.
I guess we interpret things differently. I don't see a motive for what he did on Night 1 before Day 2, even if it was negative talk like you're saying. I think it was more than shade and distancing, hence why I further rule out the possibility of that. finally, I take into consideration speedchuck would have been involved in BTSC and his one-day bussing must have been brought up. if nova was going to distance from anyone on N1, he would have picked speed imo, not the scum member with the most useful night powers.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:40 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:35 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:33 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:12 amYes, yes I do.
I’m sorry for my part in almost getting you lynched.
Keep reading, I may have changed my mind.
I’m sorry no matter how you read me.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:42 am
by Marmot
dunya, can you refresh my memory, who are your top suspects today?
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:42 am
by Jackofhearts2005
But seriously, [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention], ISOs and player lists before the role list next time plz.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:43 am
by Marmot
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:42 am
But seriously, @JaggedJimmyJay, ISOs and player lists before the role list next time plz.
I think I'm just going to put them all in spoiler tags from now on. Less clutter in the OP, and you can just click to view what you want.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Night 1]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:43 am
by Jackofhearts2005
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:26 pm
Read Golden's case against me on the last page, and his posts that followed the lynch, and ask yourself, "Does this [the case against Colin] make any sense?"
I'm interested in hearing your answers.
It does make some sense. You voting off-wagon while 3 people are almost tied for the lynch and 1 vote can change everything is suspicious to say the least. It's the bad kind of suspicious.
It doesn't matter how weak the cases against Sig, Epi and me are, I don't believe that after all that happened today you didn't have any read on us three. In the case, you read both 3 of us as Town, you could have voted for your weakest Town read to try to save the two others that you read strongly as Town. You didn't even attempt that and just took the easy way out.
So yeah, you voting off wagon in such a crucial time is bad and Golden's case has merits. This is something a player with inside information (scum) would do since they would know who would flip Town and thus not participate so late in a mislynch to avoid scrutinization.
This seems pretty serious.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:44 am
by dunya
[quote=Jackofhearts2005 post_id=443682 time=1526312543 user_id=541]
But seriously, @JaggedJimmyJay, ISOs and player lists before the role list next time plz.[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] he's linked to it at the top of his first post. useful to click.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:46 am
by Kylemii
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:39 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:26 am
@dunya I don't agree about Nova RE: Colin. He talks negatively about Colin sure but he never pushes his lynch. He was never a primary advocate of Colin's lynch and at some points even at some points resisting it, though by the means of criticizing Colin's voters and the Colin wagon.
I guess we interpret things differently. I don't see a motive for what he did on Night 1 before Day 2, even if it was negative talk like you're saying. I think it was more than shade and distancing, hence why I further rule out the possibility of that. finally, I take into consideration speedchuck would have been involved in BTSC and his one-day bussing must have been brought up. if nova was going to distance from anyone on N1, he would have picked speed imo, not the scum member with the most useful night powers.
can you maybe show me what you're talking about as far as "what he did on night 1 before day 2"
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:47 am
by Kylemii
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:39 am
I’ve isoed Nova’s Colin comments awhile back and I agree with Dunya. (Why did I go back on Nova? I reached this conclusion as part of why I went after Scotty.)
I’m going to read them in context to see if I agree with Kyle that it wasn’t a push. Cause iirc, it was a pretty substantial portion of Nova’s iso and I don’t remember him seriously pushing any other suspects.
Nova is low hanging fruit for a mislynch so (and I get that this should apply to me) going after Nova today should be seen with suspicion, hence
a portion of my turn on my Kyle read.
I think that's a little naive but I see where you're coming from I guess
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:47 am
by dunya
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:42 am
dunya, can you refresh my memory, who are your top suspects today?
wolbre, kyle, JOH, in that order. honestly, my mind is changing every hour. sometimes I get question marks about TH, sometimes I tinfoil on Spacedaisy again, sometimes I think Kyle is being genuine, sometimes I think Sloonei is being ungenuine.
right now I have no idea why I am most confident in my nova read, but maybe cos he's not posting after I made a conclusive read on him.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:48 am
by Jackofhearts2005
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:44 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:42 am
But seriously, JaggedJimmyJay, ISOs and player lists before the role list next time plz.JaggedJimmyJay he's linked to it at the top of his first post. useful to click.
I knew that of course. I was just testing you.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:49 am
by wolbre04
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:47 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:42 am
dunya, can you refresh my memory, who are your top suspects today?
wolbre, kyle, JOH, in that order. honestly, my mind is changing every hour. sometimes I get question marks about TH, sometimes I tinfoil on Spacedaisy again, sometimes I think Kyle is being genuine, sometimes I think Sloonei is being ungenuine.
right now I have no idea why I am most confident in my nova read, but maybe cos he's not posting after I made a conclusive read on him.
Mess at me getting mislynched

Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:51 am
by Jackofhearts2005
I don’t intend to revisit it today but Mac makes an early case on Sloonei I forgot to really look into.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:04 pm
by Marmot
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:51 am
I don’t intend to revisit it today but Mac makes an early case on Sloonei I forgot to really look into.
That was probably before wolbre indy-slipped and brougth Sloonei into the discussion.
So I don't know how relevant such a case would be.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:05 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:42 am
But seriously, JaggedJimmyJay, ISOs and player lists before the role list next time plz.
There has been a direct link at the top of the first post all game long. 
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:36 pm
by Turnip Head
Is this game rigged?
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:44 pm
by Turnip Head
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:36 pm
Is this game rigged?

Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:47 pm
by Kylemii
[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] you haven't really weighed in on jack and dunyas push against me, but I would like you to.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:58 pm
by Turnip Head
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:47 pm
@Turnip Head you haven't really weighed in on jack and dunyas push against me, but I would like you to.
I didn't want to interrupt you or overextend myself, I'm sure you've noticed my own encounters with them
Anyways I think it's obvious at this point what they're up to,
and it seems like you and I are the only ones who see it, so I don't know what else to do about it.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:15 pm
by Kylemii
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:58 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 12:47 pm
Turnip Head you haven't really weighed in on jack and dunyas push against me, but I would like you to.
I didn't want to interrupt you or overextend myself, I'm sure you've noticed my own encounters with them
Anyways I think it's obvious at this point what they're up to,
and it seems like you and I are the only ones who see it, so I don't know what else to do about it.
I'm not convinced dunya and Jack are a team together but if they are we're actually fucked
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:17 pm
by Kylemii
if that's actually what's happening here then i reserve the right to vote for either of them in the future in any game forever, in any context no questions asked.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:18 pm
by dunya
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:46 am
dunya wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:39 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 11:26 am
@dunya I don't agree about Nova RE: Colin. He talks negatively about Colin sure but he never pushes his lynch. He was never a primary advocate of Colin's lynch and at some points even at some points resisting it, though by the means of criticizing Colin's voters and the Colin wagon.
I guess we interpret things differently. I don't see a motive for what he did on Night 1 before Day 2, even if it was negative talk like you're saying. I think it was more than shade and distancing, hence why I further rule out the possibility of that. finally, I take into consideration speedchuck would have been involved in BTSC and his one-day bussing must have been brought up. if nova was going to distance from anyone on N1, he would have picked speed imo, not the scum member with the most useful night powers.
can you maybe show me what you're talking about as far as "what he did on night 1 before day 2"
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:26 pm
Read Golden's case against me on the last page, and his posts that followed the lynch, and ask yourself, "Does this [the case against Colin] make any sense?"
I'm interested in hearing your answers.
It does make some sense. You voting off-wagon while 3 people are almost tied for the lynch and 1 vote can change everything is suspicious to say the least. It's the bad kind of suspicious.
It doesn't matter how weak the cases against Sig, Epi and me are, I don't believe that after all that happened today you didn't have any read on us three. In the case, you read both 3 of us as Town, you could have voted for your weakest Town read to try to save the two others that you read strongly as Town. You didn't even attempt that and just took the easy way out.
So yeah, you voting off wagon in such a crucial time is bad and Golden's case has merits. This is something a player with inside information (scum) would do since they would know who would flip Town and thus not participate so late in a mislynch to avoid scrutinization.
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:22 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:07 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:55 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:26 pm
Read Golden's case against me on the last page, and his posts that followed the lynch, and ask yourself, "Does this [the case against Colin] make any sense?"
I'm interested in hearing your answers.
It does make some sense. You voting off-wagon while 3 people are almost tied for the lynch and 1 vote can change everything is suspicious to say the least. It's the bad kind of suspicious.
It doesn't matter how weak the cases against Sig, Epi and me are, I don't believe that after all that happened today you didn't have any read on us three. In the case, you read both 3 of us as Town, you could have voted for your weakest Town read to try to save the two others that you read strongly as Town. You didn't even attempt that and just took the easy way out.
So yeah, you voting off wagon in such a crucial time is bad and Golden's case has merits. This is something a player with inside information (scum) would do since they would know who would flip Town and thus not participate so late in a mislynch to avoid scrutinization.
So I avoided scrutinization by doing something that is more likely to get scrutinized? Not following here. Isn't it scummier to just jump on an easy wagon and parrot some BS reason that somebody else said than to actually try and hold someone different up to a light?
It's not more likely to get scrutinized since the consequences are less important. You weren't trying to hold someone different up to a light since at the time of your vote that lynch wasn't going anywhere. You completely avoided participating in who gets lynched even though you had a choice between 3 people. Or did you read the 3 of us as Town ?
Also, what is your post trying to do here ? Are you using hypotheticals of what is scummier to defend yourself ?
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:25 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:19 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:09 am
Dom wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:07 am
And again, to be clear: Colin wasn't an option because your objective was to break the tie?
My objective is always to vote somewhere it can make a difference. I don't think there is ever any value in town voting off wagon, no matter how much you might think every wagon is civ. I don't care about breaking the tie - I'd have voted my biggest suspect of the three even if it created a tie.
I think there is a difference in game philosophy coming to light here. Voting off wagon has its benefits and I don't want to spell all of them out necessarily, but one is to apply pressure. I felt that lunalee's conduct was the most suspicious of anyone I'd ISO'd that day and certainly more suspicious than the others. And I would rather put pressure on someone who I think may be scum than kill someone who I don't see a case for. Sorry if you think that's bad play, but that's how it is and how it's gonna be.
How do you apply pressure with 8 minutes left before the deadline on someone with 1 vote ?
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:07 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:33 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:22 pm
It's not more likely to get scrutinized since the consequences are less important. You weren't trying to hold someone different up to a light since at the time of your vote that lynch wasn't going anywhere. You completely avoided participating in who gets lynched even though you had a choice between 3 people. Or did you read the 3 of us as Town ?
I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. By "hold someone different up to a light," I mean precisely that I was calling attention to scummy behavior in lunalee. As far as my reads on you go, refer to the controversial vote-post in question. The case for you was a fiction, the case for sig was fluff and the case for Epi was probably worse than those two.
Why are you fixated with the cases against us ? It's not an excuse. It doesn't matter how weak they were, what matters are your reads.
Didn't you have any read on any of us ? Didn't you wish to save the two you had the best feelings about ?
i've played a few games with nova, the only time I've seen him go after someone this much was when he was civ. there were others he could have latched onto, Epignosis, me, Lunalee, Golden...even Marmot with a lone vote from SD. we were all voted against on Day 1. I'm town, and 3 of those flipped town already.
I have to see a clear motive for him to have picked Colin other than him being convinced something shady happened with Colin.
I also found the post where he voted Colin on N1 to be genuine. despite his assertions on Day 1, he grew wary of how fast the bandwagon grew on Colin on Day 2.
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:25 pm
Finally caught up. I'm still good with the Colin's lynch. He hasn't done anything to really defend himself and all of his posts are bad, real bad. In my interaction with him, I didn't like his explanation to the Luna vote and I'll be looking at her when he flips scum.
Something I find interesting is
how this wagon grew exponentially in the last few hours. I know he didn't defend himself but I still feel uneasy with all the votes he's getting when it was a tied lynch earlier.
[VOTE:
Colin] aubergine
yeah, I still feel good about nova.
Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 8]
Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 1:23 pm
by dunya
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 14, 2018 1:17 pm
if that's actually what's happening here then i reserve the right to vote for either of them in the future in any game forever, in any context no questions asked.
permission granted.