The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:03 pm**

the only problem I have with this is that I can't tell if I'm supposed to be a disposable PR or non-disposable

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:03 pm**

(and that I'm town but tbh if it clears tutuu and thunal by me flipping town that would be awesome like 2 cop checks by D2)

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:04 pm**

@Master Radishes

Please can you just apologise

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:04 pm**

Did tedxtr replace Turnip Head? [VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:04 pm**

but seriously guys I'm glad you guys think I've been so good it can only be explained as TMI xD

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:05 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:01 pm so I come back to the thread 3 hours later to find I got 7 votes

lovely

at least it isn't tutuu or thunal

See?

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:05 pm**

Its SUCH A BIG CHANGE from people constantly doubting me on my slot alone for stupid reasons such as "oh they had bad interaction with X scum" (which is the primary reason I got mis-deleted in grasslands and Bike mafia games)

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:06 pm**

So your flip clears thunal and tutuu?

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:06 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:04 pm but seriously guys I'm glad you guys think I've been so good it can only be explained as TMI xD

Actually yo wait. @Thread, don't you need tmi to know something is tmi?

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:07 pm**

but anyways I'm going to compile how I feel about ppl

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:08 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:06 pm So your flip clears thunal and tutuu?

I was skimming past 50 posts or something

some people were saying I TMI'ed Thunal and Tutuu

the thing is

in order to believe a person TMI'ed someone as town even after prevailing to ensure they are not deleted

you ought to believe my reasons that got them off the deletion train in the first place

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:08 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:04 pm @Master Radishes

Please can you just apologise

i dont want an apology and i dont appreciate this constant notion that all im doing is be upset at master radish. this is condescending

i want him to back up his argument. if he does and he proves that he was right in his assessment of me then i am the one who will apologize for being wrong so much

i care about stuff being right or wrong and i care about that more than feelings being hurt or catered to

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:09 pm**

otherwise you don't actually believe I had TMI and just think it looks like TMI

and you're just greedy that killing me as scum (AND ONLY AS SCUM) would clear those two slots

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:09 pm**

Which honestly is a sad and lazy way of solving tutuu and thunal that won't work and I do hope people have trusted my reasons, even if they believe its because of TMI that I made them

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:09 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:24 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:25 pm obligitaroy note for when I eventually claim my role, which is coronavirus: all joker gifs itt are not to be taken seriously
Are you 3p btw

town town town

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:10 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:09 pm Which honestly is a sad and lazy way of solving tutuu and thunal that won't work and I do hope people have trusted my reasons, even if they believe its because of TMI that I made them

i think they are both town regardless of your alignment so flipping you wouldnt add confidence

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:10 pm**

Are we to this point in a game ?

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:10 pm**

Guys I think Nanook is a wolf

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:11 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:09 pm Which honestly is a sad and lazy way of solving tutuu and thunal that won't work and I do hope people have trusted my reasons, even if they believe its because of TMI that I made them

actually we didn't even know it wasn't multiball (possibly) until after N1

as mafia depending on the size and # of 3P's I couldn't have exactly TMI'ed that thunal was town in some cases btw

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:11 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:10 pm Guys I think Nanook is a wolf

Ok

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:11 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:10 pm Are we to this point in a game ?

in a literal sense, yes. I don't know what you mean though

What point is "this point"?

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:11 pm**

Because I made that hard-defense read on D1.

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:10 pm i think they are both town regardless of your alignment so flipping you wouldnt add confidence

Sure. But do the others think that?

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:10 pm Guys I think Nanook is a wolf
Ok

I mean it

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm**

I mean, we quite litterally had 6 or 7 votes on her, possibly yours included idk, and yet somehow that's shrunk to 3 just hours earlier

I'm not sure if they would have the same confidence as you

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:11 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:09 pm Which honestly is a sad and lazy way of solving tutuu and thunal that won't work and I do hope people have trusted my reasons, even if they believe its because of TMI that I made them
actually we didn't even know it wasn't multiball (possibly) until after N1

as mafia depending on the size and # of 3P's I couldn't have exactly TMI'ed that thunal was town in some cases btw

if you are mafia you would almost certainly know there's only one team both bc it's likely a large team and bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one

so no this doesnt work you can easily be mafia who tmi'd thunal town and this post just looks bad lol

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:10 pm i think they are both town regardless of your alignment so flipping you wouldnt add confidence
Sure. But do the others think that?

I do, for one

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:13 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one

I don't see how that works?

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:14 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:10 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:09 pm Which honestly is a sad and lazy way of solving tutuu and thunal that won't work and I do hope people have trusted my reasons, even if they believe its because of TMI that I made them
i think they are both town regardless of your alignment so flipping you wouldnt add confidence

Wait...I see your vote moving around, but when and how did you arrive at Tutuu being town?

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:15 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:13 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one
I don't see how that works?

you should? the reason that we figured 1 mafia team is cuz the flip said "you are mafia". Mafia would of made the same assumption we made in figuring out how many teams there were

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:15 pm**

Seriously. Like a mafia wincon of just "gain vote majority" and being told you're "Mafia" does not say anything about the existence or non-existence of other factions

you said yourself it can depend on the size of the mafia as well

what if there was a 2nd kill on n1 that was saved anyways and no one outed cuz soup kill and also night-kills?

Or maybe there was a lucky role-block. Who knows.

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:16 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:13 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one
I don't see how that works?

uh the same reason we figured it wasnt multiball when cat's faction flipped as simply "Mafia"

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:17 pm**

That’s extremely unlikely

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:17 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:15 pm you should? the reason that we figured 1 mafia team is cuz the flip said "you are mafia". Mafia would of made the same assumption we made in figuring out how many teams there were

Are partially informed, but not completely informed, mafia teams not a thing here?

I mean like this setup is closed they shouldn't know if there's multiball or not unless they had a huge mafia size and I don't see any evidence pointing to the absolute confirmation of that yet

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:17 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:15 pm Seriously. Like a mafia wincon of just "gain vote majority" and being told you're "Mafia" does not say anything about the existence or non-existence of other factions

you said yourself it can depend on the size of the mafia as well

what if there was a 2nd kill on n1 that was saved anyways and no one outed cuz soup kill and also night-kills?

Or maybe there was a lucky role-block. Who knows.

is this a slip?

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:17 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:15 pm Seriously. Like a mafia wincon of just "gain vote majority" and being told you're "Mafia" does not say anything about the existence or non-existence of other factions

you said yourself it can depend on the size of the mafia as well

what if there was a 2nd kill on n1 that was saved anyways and no one outed cuz soup kill and also night-kills?

Or maybe there was a lucky role-block. Who knows.

in previous multiball games on the site the factions had clear different names

im like 99% sure it just being called "mafia" means there is only one

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:18 pm**

[VOTE: martin] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:18 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:16 pm uh the same reason we figured it wasnt multiball when cat's faction flipped as simply "Mafia"

flipping just as "mafia" doesn't prove anything lol

there can be "Mafia" and "Triad" for example

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:18 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:17 pm im like 99% sure it just being called "mafia" means there is only one

Oh. That's the site meta?

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:18 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:17 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:15 pm you should? the reason that we figured 1 mafia team is cuz the flip said "you are mafia". Mafia would of made the same assumption we made in figuring out how many teams there were
Are partially informed, but not completely informed, mafia teams not a thing here?

I mean like this setup is closed they shouldn't know if there's multiball or not unless they had a huge mafia size and I don't see any evidence pointing to the absolute confirmation of that yet

they probably arent informed of 3ps and the wincon is like a vague eliminate all threats thing but i think based on both team size and faction name being just mafia they would figure they are the only mafia team

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:18 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:16 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:13 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one
I don't see how that works?
uh the same reason we figured it wasnt multiball when cat's faction flipped as simply "Mafia"

I'm not really in this "we." It wouldn't surprise me at all id someone flipped "wolf" or some other appropriate word.

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:19 pm**

Honestly this made and martin interaction interests me

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:19 pm**

I don't think we have Mafia's win con. Do we???

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:19 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:16 pm uh the same reason we figured it wasnt multiball when cat's faction flipped as simply "Mafia"
flipping just as "mafia" doesn't prove anything lol

there can be "Mafia" and "Triad" for example

no

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:19 pm**

i have played many games hosted by epi and if theres a faction called simply mafia it's the only one just trust me lol

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:20 pm**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:16 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:13 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:12 pm bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one
I don't see how that works?
uh the same reason we figured it wasnt multiball when cat's faction flipped as simply "Mafia"
I'm not really in this "we." It wouldn't surprise me at all id someone flipped "wolf" or some other appropriate word.

no

this is a host read of epi, take it or leave it but im pretty confident

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:21 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:19 pm Honestly this made and martin interaction interests me

I think exactly one of them is mafia, not sure which atm

Mayyyybe both but meh

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:22 pm**

Hi! I am here.

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:22 pm**

...is no one seeing the slip? We don't know mafia's wincon here

Posted: **Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:22 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:19 pm i have played many games hosted by epi and if theres a faction called simply mafia it's the only one just trust me lol

This meta seems valid. Without it there was really no reason I could see for the "not multi-ball" conclusion so I thought it was weird. Glad to have had this brought out.

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