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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:09 pm
by Michelle
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:05 pm santygrass (6): Guillotine (48), Vivax (26), pyxxy (7), EnderWiggin (67), DeeZees (25), Creature (46)
hollowkatt (6): santygrass (59), Jackofhearts2005 (46), Ranmilia (96), Dyslexicon (46), tutuu (66), DrWilgy (16)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
enderwiggin (2): nutella (53), Neon (19)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)

unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)

Not Voting (13): MacDougall (5), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy

Everyone alive on these 2 wagons is a player

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:11 pm
by Inawordyes
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:06 pm I want to say that I heavily disagree with the 'falcon push has a mafia there' as a means to solve because it sounds like a super confbias read and I would think that Jack is prob town regardless of Falcon alignment here fwiw. The way that Jack pushed I think is just Villa indicative to me /shrug.

I also have other posts I quoted but I am sneaking in at work and cant spend much time posting smh skill issue
Which you’re fine to do so, especially as it regards me because obv. I also agree that Jack is more than likely town

But me and Nutella both share the same read, so running down the same plot thread would hopefully in theory help us to get on a more closer page by going back and forth on our individual notes. The reality of it didn’t exactly match all my hopes and dreams, but I can’t say it had no benefit either

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:12 pm
by Michelle
Can you please give up to use 'skill issue' ?
It feels plain rude and maybe it was funny once but now is overused

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:13 pm
by Inawordyes
Michelle wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:05 pm santygrass (6): Guillotine (48), Vivax (26), pyxxy (7), EnderWiggin (67), DeeZees (25), Creature (46)
hollowkatt (6): santygrass (59), Jackofhearts2005 (46), Ranmilia (96), Dyslexicon (46), tutuu (66), DrWilgy (16)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
enderwiggin (2): nutella (53), Neon (19)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)

unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)

Not Voting (13): MacDougall (5), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy

Everyone alive on these 2 wagons is a player
Why couldn’t Nanook and/or one of Nutella/Neon be NPCs and prevent a 2-wagon tie from forming?

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:15 pm
by santygrass
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:18 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:12 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:10 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:37 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:35 am
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:32 am Or you can ISO me, I have a towncase on myself in SoD D3 I think and if you actually read the ISO and want to solve should reach to the correct conclussion that I am town anyways /shrug
I'm not going to ISO you.
But why did you ISO Michelle then? Whats this favouritism smh
I went back and skimmed through EoD2 to give myself some context on the wagonomics thing. Walk me through why you think EoD2 clears you. I am NOT going to look through 7 pages of your ISO for a post that I don't know what it looks like.
How a scum team of 4 ends uo with a mafia being tied at the end. And look at the votes on my end and the votes on my counterwagon, and the overall EoD when I came in ig. I think its kinda clearing town indicative for me tbh

And I wasnt a CFD , I was lead wagon for quite a while that day , so the wagonomics for a mafia team that doesn't know how many players could be on each wagon dont add up at all
You being a lead wagon all day suggests that wolves would not block-vote together to save you.
This read is so crazy. Like wtf. Me being a lead wagon a bug oart of the day without push back or you know, actual cases on me is super villa indicative lol.

Unless you assume mafia wasnt playing I guess in which case you do you and prepare a Skill Issue crown /shrug. Like, I think your read is basically wrong here

Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:43 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:35 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:17 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:10 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:37 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:35 am

I'm not going to ISO you.
But why did you ISO Michelle then? Whats this favouritism smh
I went back and skimmed through EoD2 to give myself some context on the wagonomics thing. Walk me through why you think EoD2 clears you. I am NOT going to look through 7 pages of your ISO for a post that I don't know what it looks like.
How a scum team of 4 ends uo with a mafia being tied at the end. And look at the votes on my end and the votes on my counterwagon, and the overall EoD when I came in ig. I think its kinda clearing town indicative for me tbh
Here was the VC with an hour left in the day:
tutuu wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:53 pm Not Voting (7): MacDougall (33), Inawordyes (20), JaggedJimmyJay (35), risiinq- (45), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (73)
chelsea (2): Golden (47), ~Prince J~ (18)
santygrass (6): nutella (171), Creature (121), DeeZees (44), pyxxy (14), Guillotine (192), Ranmilia (125)
marmot (2): Marmot (88), sprityo (24)
michelle (4): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (21), hollowkatt (81), Chelsea (18), TonyStarkPrime (31)
scotty (4): Lilypetal (39), EnderWiggin (165), RondoDimBuckle (163), tutuu (83)
hollowkatt (6): iaafr (236), Jackofhearts2005 (108), Hally (188), Dyslexicon (100), Vivax (42), DrWilgy (30)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (66)
lily (1): falcon45ca (22)
guillotina (1): katze (131)
nutella (1): Michelle (116)
master radishes (1): Sloonei (33)
c4e5g3d5 (1): c4e5g3d5 (85)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (30)
sloonei (3): santygrass (83), Scotty (52), Ricochet (10)
manny (1): Manny (223)
golden (1): lucy (19)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (10)
test (1): Lumi (78)
unvote (2): WindwardAway (105), arogame123 (61)
arogame (1): Sabiplz (243)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (23)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (43)
enderwiggin (1): Neon (88)
If a single member of the wolves weren't around for EoD, then unless the other 3 are going to block-vote, that gives wolves only saving power of 2 - your selfpres plus a wolf saving buddy.

That means that HK or Michelle are the only ones who could have been viable saves for you. HK is the natural choice at this point, so as long as one other person is a wolf on HK, that makes sense.

if two members of the wolves weren't around for EoD, then your case is even weaker.

Even if all four wolves are around for EoD, unless they were block-voting together, they can't just magically stop your wagon from tieing.
Now think again consider the NPCs here. A 2 player or 3 player block ALWAYS would save someone here. So If I am a wolf, a partner would be voting with me kinda always otherwise it would be just a dumb play. And because scum doesnt know too who is a player and their vote counts and who doesnt a tie is simply not viable to pull / risk being scum lol
"A 2 player block ALWAYS would save someone here" is categorically false. A 3-player block might, but that requires 3 people to all be around for EoD and all to vote together on a wagon that has been a lead wagon all day. Hell, I'd say if you flip wolf, there's probably a wolf on you at that EoD, hedging their bets that the towncred they'd get from that will be worth more than keeping alive someone who is majorly suspected in thread.
And again. NO. Because the people on a wagon could be NPC, scum voting together is a guaranteed 2 player block and that in D2 specially before purge is such a huge boost to odds of surviving that the scum team should be literally dumb to not do that or try something to save a partner.

Like, go and reread D2 and see that there wasnt a 'big case' on me or that I was 'Majorly suspected' to even assume that scum wouldnt try to save me if I were scum like lmaooo this shouldnt even be discussed woweee
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:25 pm So the next logical step in the mental chain Nutella, using Sean’s #3 as a slight bolstering effect, is that if we agree that in broad strokes there’s direct mafia influence in Falcon’s wagon, then is that good or bad for Falcon?
You are scumreading my push for a hedious reason .
Nutella is sussing Jack (which I disagree)

I think this is a jump in logic to give a kinda good look on falcon that hasnt been posting towny at all tbh

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:15 pm
by Inawordyes
nutella wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:07 pm
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:40 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:35 pm
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:32 pm I am going back and forth on what that means for Falcon, I’ve already stated earlier that I think it delves more into the side of “TMI spewing Falcon mafia bevause you’re also mafia so your confidence is because you know and you can’t know unless you are mafia”, but I can ofc see it both ways
meh it's possible
It feels like pulling teeth trying to get you to engage with me here, that’s a really sucky feeling when I’m genuinely trying to solve and level with you on something we both agree about
was more referring to this post
More sadness than frustration, but I see how you read it

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:17 pm
by santygrass
The last skill issue I did was refering to myself uwu

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:18 pm
by Inawordyes
What is your read on Nutella, Santy?

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:19 pm
by Michelle
Michelle wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:09 pm
Spoiler: show
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:05 pm santygrass (6): Guillotine (48), Vivax (26), pyxxy (7), EnderWiggin (67), DeeZees (25), Creature (46)
hollowkatt (6): santygrass (59), Jackofhearts2005 (46), Ranmilia (96), Dyslexicon (46), tutuu (66), DrWilgy (16)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
enderwiggin (2): nutella (53), Neon (19)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)

unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)

Not Voting (13): MacDougall (5), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy

Everyone alive on these 2 wagons is a player
Is there any possibility for all of them to be town?
Regardless Santy's alignment I think in his wagon Vivax has wolf equity. In HKs wagon if santy is a wolf there is at least one more ig.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:19 pm
by Michelle
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:17 pm The last skill issue I did was refering to myself uwu
Doesn't matter :sigh:

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:21 pm
by Michelle
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:13 pm
Michelle wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:05 pm santygrass (6): Guillotine (48), Vivax (26), pyxxy (7), EnderWiggin (67), DeeZees (25), Creature (46)
hollowkatt (6): santygrass (59), Jackofhearts2005 (46), Ranmilia (96), Dyslexicon (46), tutuu (66), DrWilgy (16)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
enderwiggin (2): nutella (53), Neon (19)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)

unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)

Not Voting (13): MacDougall (5), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy

Everyone alive on these 2 wagons is a player
Why couldn’t Nanook and/or one of Nutella/Neon be NPCs and prevent a 2-wagon tie from forming?
Santy, Wilgy and Jack are all players

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:29 pm
by Seanzie
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:18 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:12 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:10 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:37 am
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:35 am

I'm not going to ISO you.
But why did you ISO Michelle then? Whats this favouritism smh
I went back and skimmed through EoD2 to give myself some context on the wagonomics thing. Walk me through why you think EoD2 clears you. I am NOT going to look through 7 pages of your ISO for a post that I don't know what it looks like.
How a scum team of 4 ends uo with a mafia being tied at the end. And look at the votes on my end and the votes on my counterwagon, and the overall EoD when I came in ig. I think its kinda clearing town indicative for me tbh

And I wasnt a CFD , I was lead wagon for quite a while that day , so the wagonomics for a mafia team that doesn't know how many players could be on each wagon dont add up at all
You being a lead wagon all day suggests that wolves would not block-vote together to save you.
This read is so crazy. Like wtf. Me being a lead wagon a bug oart of the day without push back or you know, actual cases on me is super villa indicative lol.

Unless you assume mafia wasnt playing I guess in which case you do you and prepare a Skill Issue crown /shrug. Like, I think your read is basically wrong here

Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:43 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:35 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:17 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:10 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:37 am

But why did you ISO Michelle then? Whats this favouritism smh
I went back and skimmed through EoD2 to give myself some context on the wagonomics thing. Walk me through why you think EoD2 clears you. I am NOT going to look through 7 pages of your ISO for a post that I don't know what it looks like.
How a scum team of 4 ends uo with a mafia being tied at the end. And look at the votes on my end and the votes on my counterwagon, and the overall EoD when I came in ig. I think its kinda clearing town indicative for me tbh
Here was the VC with an hour left in the day:
tutuu wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:53 pm Not Voting (7): MacDougall (33), Inawordyes (20), JaggedJimmyJay (35), risiinq- (45), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (73)
chelsea (2): Golden (47), ~Prince J~ (18)
santygrass (6): nutella (171), Creature (121), DeeZees (44), pyxxy (14), Guillotine (192), Ranmilia (125)
marmot (2): Marmot (88), sprityo (24)
michelle (4): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (21), hollowkatt (81), Chelsea (18), TonyStarkPrime (31)
scotty (4): Lilypetal (39), EnderWiggin (165), RondoDimBuckle (163), tutuu (83)
hollowkatt (6): iaafr (236), Jackofhearts2005 (108), Hally (188), Dyslexicon (100), Vivax (42), DrWilgy (30)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (66)
lily (1): falcon45ca (22)
guillotina (1): katze (131)
nutella (1): Michelle (116)
master radishes (1): Sloonei (33)
c4e5g3d5 (1): c4e5g3d5 (85)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (30)
sloonei (3): santygrass (83), Scotty (52), Ricochet (10)
manny (1): Manny (223)
golden (1): lucy (19)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (10)
test (1): Lumi (78)
unvote (2): WindwardAway (105), arogame123 (61)
arogame (1): Sabiplz (243)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (23)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (43)
enderwiggin (1): Neon (88)
If a single member of the wolves weren't around for EoD, then unless the other 3 are going to block-vote, that gives wolves only saving power of 2 - your selfpres plus a wolf saving buddy.

That means that HK or Michelle are the only ones who could have been viable saves for you. HK is the natural choice at this point, so as long as one other person is a wolf on HK, that makes sense.

if two members of the wolves weren't around for EoD, then your case is even weaker.

Even if all four wolves are around for EoD, unless they were block-voting together, they can't just magically stop your wagon from tieing.
Now think again consider the NPCs here. A 2 player or 3 player block ALWAYS would save someone here. So If I am a wolf, a partner would be voting with me kinda always otherwise it would be just a dumb play. And because scum doesnt know too who is a player and their vote counts and who doesnt a tie is simply not viable to pull / risk being scum lol
"A 2 player block ALWAYS would save someone here" is categorically false. A 3-player block might, but that requires 3 people to all be around for EoD and all to vote together on a wagon that has been a lead wagon all day. Hell, I'd say if you flip wolf, there's probably a wolf on you at that EoD, hedging their bets that the towncred they'd get from that will be worth more than keeping alive someone who is majorly suspected in thread.
And again. NO. Because the people on a wagon could be NPC, scum voting together is a guaranteed 2 player block and that in D2 specially before purge is such a huge boost to odds of surviving that the scum team should be literally dumb to not do that or try something to save a partner.

Like, go and reread D2 and see that there wasnt a 'big case' on me or that I was 'Majorly suspected' to even assume that scum wouldnt try to save me if I were scum like lmaooo this shouldnt even be discussed woweee
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:25 pm So the next logical step in the mental chain Nutella, using Sean’s #3 as a slight bolstering effect, is that if we agree that in broad strokes there’s direct mafia influence in Falcon’s wagon, then is that good or bad for Falcon?
You are scumreading my push for a hedious reason .
Nutella is sussing Jack (which I disagree)

I think this is a jump in logic to give a kinda good look on falcon that hasnt been posting towny at all tbh
You're moving the goalposts. Also, there were plenty of other wagons like HK and Michelle, so I don't see "without pushback".

It doesn't matter if the people on the wagon COULD be NPC. A 2-person vote block is not going to guarantee a wolf doesn't end up tied, so suggesting that anyone who gets into a tie would have to be town is bad. A 3-person vote block seems unlikely to save someone who is in a bad threadstate, so suggesting you should be town because you tied is a bad suggestion. It feels like you're that wolf that is just saying something enough times that you hope people buy it.

I don't care if there are good or bad cases on you D2. You said EoD2 wagonomics should clear you. I vehemently disagree.

My scumread of you stands.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:32 pm
by Seanzie
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:17 pm The last skill issue I did was refering to myself uwu
Multiple people have mentioned the "skill issue" issue with you and you just make excuses every time. If I feel comfortable calling myself "stupid" that doesn't make it okay for me to also call other people "stupid".

Regardless of how you meant it, it is clear that it comes off in a way that bothers other people. I really recommend listening to other people who are just trying to play a game without feeling like someone is insulting them and try to change your vernacular. I cannot force you, but like... I told you more-or-less the same thing and you brushed it off as if you weren't doing anything wrong, and you know, sure maybe you really aren't, but hopefully you'll see that if enough other people are bothered by it, it might be nice of you to try to change, or at least acknowledge the affect your language has on others.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:01 pm
by Manny
@nutella im conflicted on him id like to believe he wouldnt fuck up the NK's this badly as scum but he is also supposed to have a godread on lily so him not finding her town is pingy, i also still kinda think the amount of effort he is putting into this game is more indicative of wolf!santy than town!santy, so overall its prolly a sr-lean for me. Take into account i havent read all his posts or half the game, then again if santy is scum i kinda think town is screwed and mostly composed of slankers so lmao.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:08 pm
by nutella
Manny wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:01 pm @nutella im conflicted on him id like to believe he wouldnt fuck up the NK's this badly as scum but he is also supposed to have a godread on lily so him not finding her town is pingy, i also still kinda think the amount of effort he is putting into this game is more indicative of wolf!santy than town!santy, so overall its prolly a sr-lean for me. Take into account i havent read all his posts or half the game, then again if santy is scum i kinda think town is screwed and mostly composed of slankers so lmao.
ooooof okay. yeah im concerned now thank you

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:32 pm
by Seanzie
Manny wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:01 pm @nutella im conflicted on him id like to believe he wouldnt fuck up the NK's this badly as scum but he is also supposed to have a godread on lily so him not finding her town is pingy, i also still kinda think the amount of effort he is putting into this game is more indicative of wolf!santy than town!santy, so overall its prolly a sr-lean for me. Take into account i havent read all his posts or half the game, then again if santy is scum i kinda think town is screwed and mostly composed of slankers so lmao.
Would would wolf!Santy say anything about town being screwed? I don't follow that part.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:41 pm
by Inawordyes
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:32 pm
Manny wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:01 pm @nutella im conflicted on him id like to believe he wouldnt fuck up the NK's this badly as scum but he is also supposed to have a godread on lily so him not finding her town is pingy, i also still kinda think the amount of effort he is putting into this game is more indicative of wolf!santy than town!santy, so overall its prolly a sr-lean for me. Take into account i havent read all his posts or half the game, then again if santy is scum i kinda think town is screwed and mostly composed of slankers so lmao.
Would would wolf!Santy say anything about town being screwed? I don't follow that part.
No he’s saying that town is screwed if Santy is mafia because it means that the majority of actual town aren’t the ones solving and it’s mostly being left to NPCs and mafia trying to deepwolf

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:46 pm
by Inawordyes
@Manny have you read any of today?

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:55 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
!votecount

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:59 pm
by Michelle
The thread is rather static
I am affraid without scumhunting now and finding a wolf the game becomes an insta wolf win when the NPCs will be no more because we started to mischop and wolves started to NK villagers.

Let's check some suspects from the first days who never came back in big wagons:

Neon: self defense, i didn't notice much solving process, please correct me, probably i missed posts
Wilgy: same
Santy: self claimed spewed by wagons, but I don't think is valid

Others :
Jack has just a few solvy posts, inside scum range.

Ilario gave the impression he will play at one moment but that moment is always postponed. Never pressured.

Schiavetto was top wagon long time today and I don't think they can evade the Poe but maybe the wolves are ok with this chop? Unless they can't defend a slot who is apparently doomed and wait for villagers to get cold feet or look elsewhere...

I like the interaction Iawy/nutella, they look the best today.

The rest are ok for today or for the rest of the game, Fwog should thank Seanzie for it

Hally's batteries need a recharge ig..
Mines as well, but if i am alive next day.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:00 pm
by Michelle
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:55 pm !votecount
If you post from pc you should install the extension from Lumi

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:06 pm
by Vivax
I believe the true purpose of this game is to reach the point where we are able to break/not reach the postcap together and end in a tie.

And until then, eliminate whoever would oppose such a feat.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:10 pm
by Michelle
Vivax wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:06 pm I believe the true purpose of this game is to reach the point where we are able to break/not reach the postcap together and end in a tie.

And until then, eliminate whoever would oppose such a feat.
I forgot to say I suspect Vivax as well.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:14 pm
by Vivax
Michelle wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:10 pm
Vivax wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:06 pm I believe the true purpose of this game is to reach the point where we are able to break/not reach the postcap together and end in a tie.

And until then, eliminate whoever would oppose such a feat.
I forgot to say I suspect Vivax as well.
Thanks

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:24 pm
by Manny
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:46 pm @Manny have you read any of today?
bits and pieces, my only strong read as of rn is that Porscha is either NPC Townsiding or Lock!Town.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:24 pm
by Vivax
So where are the nasty ‚tie‘ fighters.
If you believe that power grows out of the barrel of a gun, you‘re likely to be piloting one.
As it turns out, some don‘t fear the gun but rather the death of their own convictions.
The gun just strengthens them when fired.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:24 pm
by Manny
I also think Lumi is still NPC Townsiding or Lock!Town.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:29 pm
by Michelle
Can we better talk about wolves?

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:32 pm
by Michelle
I have to sleep

My vote stays, i will try to come back at eod but I can't promise

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:33 pm
by Manny
Michelle wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:29 pm Can we better talk about wolves?
if i had any SR's i felt actually confidant about i would say so lmao

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:34 pm
by Vivax
Manny wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:01 pm @nutella im conflicted on him id like to believe he wouldnt fuck up the NK's this badly as scum but he is also supposed to have a godread on lily so him not finding her town is pingy, i also still kinda think the amount of effort he is putting into this game is more indicative of wolf!santy than town!santy, so overall its prolly a sr-lean for me. Take into account i havent read all his posts or half the game, then again if santy is scum i kinda think town is screwed and mostly composed of slankers so lmao.
Post smells like fruit salad.
Macedonia as we call it elsewhere.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:39 pm
by Vivax
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:07 pm [VOTE: ilario] aubergine

@ilario the time to start solving is now tbh
Bad vote tbh.
Has IC vibes all over and I mentioned I had scout read on him (or DZ perhaps)
Explains the Ender wagon of yesterday sufficiently.

I‘d tentatively townpile the lot who wagoned Ender.
Neon was more roundabout about it would have to do a fresh ISO first.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:39 pm
by DeeZees
Hellew

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:40 pm
by DeeZees
Accio vote count

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm
by falcon45ca
Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:44 pm
by DeeZees
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes
I thought it was magnificent

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:45 pm
by falcon45ca
DeeZees wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:44 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes
I thought it was magnificent
I'm familiar with sarcasm

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:46 pm
by Michelle
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes
It was ok-ish mafia related

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:47 pm
by Seanzie
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes
Tell me what to look for and I'll read it and confbias into the same worldview as you.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:48 pm
by Vivax
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes
I have fully embraced an attitude of ‚my work here is done‘.
But if you want to go gung-ho into CFD on DZ I‘m all ears.

It‘s not really an ISO I necessarily want to unnecessarily concern myself with.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:49 pm
by Seanzie
Does anyone know the current VC?

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:49 pm
by Michelle
Vivax wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:39 pm
santygrass wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:07 pm [VOTE: ilario] aubergine

@ilario the time to start solving is now tbh
Bad vote tbh.
Has IC vibes all over and I mentioned I had scout read on him (or DZ perhaps)
Explains the Ender wagon of yesterday sufficiently.

I‘d tentatively townpile the lot who wagoned Ender.
Neon was more roundabout about it would have to do a fresh ISO first.
I need details

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:49 pm
by Seanzie
Also, EoD is in 1 hour 10 minutes?

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:49 pm
by falcon45ca
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes
Tell me what to look for and I'll read it and confbias into the same worldview as you.
Some santy interactions that pop out to me as odd...like, santy doesn't seem concerned w/ solving that slank slot whatsoever

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:50 pm
by Inawordyes
Manny wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:24 pm
Inawordyes wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:46 pm @Manny have you read any of today?
bits and pieces, my only strong read as of rn is that Porscha is either NPC Townsiding or Lock!Town.
Alrighty

If you saw it (or can go look), being that you ended up with a conflicting read on Santy that leans mafia, what do you make of my read on Santy and then Sean’s read on Santy?

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:51 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Maybe we’re all just town /s

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:51 pm
by Seanzie
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes
Tell me what to look for and I'll read it and confbias into the same worldview as you.
Some santy interactions that pop out to me as odd...like, santy doesn't seem concerned w/ solving that slank slot whatsoever
You should vote Santy.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:51 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes
Tell me what to look for and I'll read it and confbias into the same worldview as you.
Some santy interactions that pop out to me as odd...like, santy doesn't seem concerned w/ solving that slank slot whatsoever
Anything else?

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:52 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
We’re not voting off Santy. Don’t be ridiculous.

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 5 Ends 10am Dec 17 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:52 pm
by Inawordyes
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:51 pm Maybe we’re all just town /s
I mean, there always is a nonzero chance that everybody who’s posting ITT right now actually is town