The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:28 pm**

Lorab
MacDougall
Matt

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:28 pm**

MacDougall wrote:Lorab
MacDougall
Matt

Good
Good
Good

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:29 pm**

MacDougall wrote:Lorab
MacDougall
Matt

Good
Good
Bad

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:29 pm**

MacDougall wrote:Lorab
MacDougall
Matt

Bad
Good
Good

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:30 pm**

Bad
BLERK
Bad

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:31 pm**

MetalMarsh89
MovingPictures07
Sorsha

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:31 pm**

MacDougall wrote:MetalMarsh89
MovingPictures07
Sorsha

Good
Good
Indy

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:31 pm**

MacDougall wrote:MetalMarsh89
MovingPictures07
Sorsha

Bad
Robin
Good

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:31 pm**

Bad
Good
Bad

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:32 pm**

MacDougall wrote:MetalMarsh89
MovingPictures07
Sorsha

tbgm
Good
Bad

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:32 pm**

TFW I participate in or influence the lynch of both mafia killers yet still get "Bad" GTH reads

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:33 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:TFW I participate in or influence the lynch of both mafia killers yet still get "Bad" GTH reads

Lol let's talk about this later. Gimme your reads.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:34 pm**

sprityo
S~V~S
TheFloyd73
Turnip Head
Typhoony

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:34 pm**

MacDougall wrote:sprityo
S~V~S
TheFloyd73
Turnip Head
Typhoony

Bad
Bad
Bad
Good
Good

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:35 pm**

MacDougall wrote:sprityo
S~V~S
TheFloyd73
Turnip Head
Typhoony

Indy
Bad
Bad
Good
Bad

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:35 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote:TFW I participate in or influence the lynch of both mafia killers yet still get "Bad" GTH reads

DH: Inmate

Linki:

MacDougall wrote:sprityo
S~V~S
TheFloyd73
Turnip Head
Typhoony

Bad
Bad
Bad
Good
Good

Linki: :O

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:35 pm**

MacDougall wrote:sprityo
S~V~S
TheFloyd73
Turnip Head
Typhoony

Good/Indy/lazy schmuck
Good
Good
Good
Bad

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:36 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Linki: :O

:high5:

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:37 pm**

Bass_the_Clever No read
Bubbles No Read
Bullzeye No Read
DharmaHelper Good
DFaraday Bad
Dom Barely Good
ekeknat Huuuuh
Enrique Good
Equivocate Would love to meet him one day
Golden False
Glorfindel Good
juliets Might be good
Lorab Good
MacDougall Good
Matt Bad
MetalMarsh89 Good or Bad or Indy
MovingPictures07 Good
sabie12 Bad
Sorsha Good?
sprityo Dunno
S~V~S Might be bad
TheFloyd73 Would love to meet him one day
Turnip Head Good
Typhoony Bad

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:41 pm**

To be clear I think sprityo is either a cop who's already nabbed his inmate or an inmate who's already won the game and now he's just chillin.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:42 pm**

Turnip Head wrote:To be clear I think sprityo is either a cop who's already nabbed his inmate or an inmate who's already won the game and now he's just chillin.

How would a cop know if they have nabbed their inmate? Unless they are cop number one, I guess.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:43 pm**

Golden wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:To be clear I think sprityo is either a cop who's already nabbed his inmate or an inmate who's already won the game and now he's just chillin.
How would a cop know if they have nabbed their inmate? Unless they are cop number one, I guess.

Yeah I was thinking Joker...

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:57 pm**

Upon further consideration I think Floyd might be an inmate. I don't know to what extent the hosts tweaked the roles, but I know Epignosis did not appreciate Floyd's lack of effort in previous games he's hosted. I could see him handing Floyd an indy role here so no one would have to be unfairly affected by his absence.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:07 pm**

@Hosts: Does Ra's al Ghul learn when his win conditions have been met?

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:54 pm**

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:TFW I participate in or influence the lynch of both mafia killers yet still get "Bad" GTH reads
DH: Inmate

Linki:

MacDougall wrote:sprityo
S~V~S
TheFloyd73
Turnip Head
Typhoony
Bad
Bad
Bad
Good
Good

Linki: :O

Damn Daniel.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:02 pm**

@Hosts: How does the Lazarus Pit work? Who comes back from it?

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:12 pm**

Enrique wrote:@Hosts: Does Ra's al Ghul learn when his win conditions have been met?

No.

Enrique wrote:@Hosts: How does the Lazarus Pit work? Who comes back from it?

DharmaHelper wrote:Damn Daniel.

I have to listen to this shit all day long.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:13 pm**

BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE HOST POOOOOSTS

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:12 pm**

Typhoony wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Typhoony wrote:@ Golden: baddie SVS does not vent in the thread. Maybe a little bit, but she would keep most if not all of it in the chat.
So she wouldn't, but she would.

And who's to say she didn't?
Hello I'm Mac and I'm not gonna listen to people who know what they are talking about

Ok, humor aside, you didn't really address his point.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:What's the word on SVS/sabie being teammates? Golden, I saw you mention something about that.
Timing of SVS vote for Mac, mostly. I feel almost like doing a patented G-Man Balaam voting analysis. It doesn't hurt that I already felt like SVS was bad before that.
How about this little conspiracy theory then (which I realize goes against my previous declaration about SVS).

SVS likes to nightkill inactives when she is bad. Not always, but she does. Frisky Dingo is an example of this.

Bea was nightkilled by the Maroni's on Night 4, the team sabie was on. I asked this when it happened. SVS replied immediately "I don't know".

This reminder is really what makes me think SVS might not be bad, despite evidence for it. I think SVS would have killed more inactives by now.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:13 pm**

@Dom - in your bullets over broadway, in which SVS was bad, how many inactives did she kill?

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:25 pm**

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:33 pm**

Golden wrote:@Dom - in your bullets over broadway, in which SVS was bad, how many inactives did she kill?

Good question. I forgot she was bad in that game.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:39 pm**

Dom wrote:
Golden wrote:@Dom - in your bullets over broadway, in which SVS was bad, how many inactives did she kill?
Good question. I forgot she was bad in that game.

Misleading AF. She was lynched earlier in the game before she could kill, if my memory serves me right.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:41 pm**

Dom wrote:
Dom wrote:
Golden wrote:@Dom - in your bullets over broadway, in which SVS was bad, how many inactives did she kill?
Good question. I forgot she was bad in that game.
Misleading AF. She was lynched earlier in the game before she could kill, if my memory serves me right.

No. She was lynched on day one as a serial killer, then subbed in to a mafia team, and was still alive to give them the win at end game, while all of the inactives continued to be alive.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:45 pm**

The plot thickens.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:01 pm**

What plot?

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:02 pm**

Golden wrote:
Dom wrote:
Dom wrote:
Golden wrote:@Dom - in your bullets over broadway, in which SVS was bad, how many inactives did she kill?
Good question. I forgot she was bad in that game.
Misleading AF. She was lynched earlier in the game before she could kill, if my memory serves me right.
No. She was lynched on day one as a serial killer, then subbed in to a mafia team, and was still alive to give them the win at end game, while all of the inactives continued to be alive.

Thissun

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:03 pm**

It's not like it makes SVS bad. But some of the theories for why she is not bad don't really check out, in my opinion.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:18 pm**

Golden wrote:It's not like it makes SVS bad. But some of the theories for why she is not bad don't really check out, in my opinion.

What does this mean? Is she guilty until proven innocent? Why does it seem like you want her to be bad?

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:21 pm**

Turnip Head wrote:
Golden wrote:It's not like it makes SVS bad. But some of the theories for why she is not bad don't really check out, in my opinion.
What does this mean? Is she guilty until proven innocent? Why does it seem like you want her to be bad?

I'm getting this exact vibe. Like what does make her bad?

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:26 pm**

Enrique wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Golden wrote:It's not like it makes SVS bad. But some of the theories for why she is not bad don't really check out, in my opinion.
What does this mean? Is she guilty until proven innocent? Why does it seem like you want her to be bad?
I'm getting this exact vibe. Like what does make her bad?

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:29 pm**

Turnip Head wrote:
Golden wrote:It's not like it makes SVS bad. But some of the theories for why she is not bad don't really check out, in my opinion.
What does this mean? Is she guilty until proven innocent? Why does it seem like you want her to be bad?

I think she IS bad. I don't want her to be anything. And this isn't a court of law, there is no such thing as 'innocent until proven guilty'.

What, should I ignore terrible arguments? Do you think it is good logic to say "SVS is not bad because no inactives have died, and SVS would have killed inactives by now" when I can point to an example of why this is demonstrably false?

You and Enrique seem to be implying that I should make no effort to disprove bad arguments for why she isn't bad.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:30 pm**

Enrique wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Golden wrote:It's not like it makes SVS bad. But some of the theories for why she is not bad don't really check out, in my opinion.
What does this mean? Is she guilty until proven innocent? Why does it seem like you want her to be bad?
I'm getting this exact vibe. Like what does make her bad?

What makes her good?

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:32 pm**

Golden wrote:Do you think it is good logic to say "SVS is not bad because no inactives have died, and SVS would have killed inactives by now" when I can point to an example of why this is demonstrably false?

No, I don't, but I also don't see a single person arguing this point.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:34 pm**

To be fundamentally clear here...

I think SVS endeavoured to save sabie by getting a train on Mac yesterday. I think SVS is sabie's teammate. I think it is about the best lead we have on who is bad.

I'm not sure why everyone else is approaching it as though there isn't any reason to think she was bad?

linki @TH

Dom wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:SVS likes to nightkill inactives when she is bad. Not always, but she does.
This reminder is really what makes me think SVS might not be bad, despite evidence for it. I think SVS would have killed more inactives by now.

Well, there are two for you. So, look better.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:36 pm**

Dom said he was reminded that SVS killed inactives when bad. I reminded him of a game he hosted where that didn't happen.

That's literally all that it was, until you and Enrique expressly questioned it.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:40 pm**

An odd pattern in this game so far has been

Player 1: Who do you guys think is bad?
Player 2: I think X is bad and here's why.
Player 1: I don't think that's right, I'm gonna go ahead and dismiss that.
Player 3: Yeah get dismissed homie
Player 2: Who do you guys think is bad, then?
Player 3: Get dismissed homie.
Player 1: Dismissed.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:42 pm**

And yet we still haven't lynched a pro-town player.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:44 pm**

No-one would want SVS to be mislynched for the wrong reasons.

I don't understand what is so difficult about taking that a step further and realising we don't want her to be saved from lynch for the wrong reasons either.

Posted: **Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:45 pm**

I just feel like you're not giving the other side of this any consideration. The side where SVS is civ and voted for Mac because she suspected him and it had nothing to do with sabie. You yourself said you did not suspect or engage with sabie. You could just as easily be in the same position as SVS right now.

Here's a thought: if SVS is bad and is killing active players, why didn't she just kill Mac?

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