The Syndicate

Tip to those going to the championship:

Wolf teams are diverse, I almost gurantee at least one wolf always slanks off to be under the radar.

It's town's job to avoid D1 TvT (Town vs. Town) arguments, and stay on track of cornering the slanking wolf.

Typically the slanking wolf is usually a valuable PR wolf. Let's DO THIS.

Frog wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Am I a slanker?

You're a slankpapotomus :-P

haha, of the other 3 players in the POE with you, who would you lynch and why?
Between:
Marshmellow
Pirformus
A2theZebra

Curses! Dr Wigly has escaped once again to go off to slankersville!

So, I'm guessing the website was down for everybody.

Frog wrote:@Marco

While I didn't explicitly say this, I agree with everything you've just posted here, as I've alluded to in several of my more recent posts.

As for never lynch IAWY D1 - it's more of an MU thing that I was originaly skeptical of well. But some great players are simply never on D1 lynch.

I don't disagree. But these people (who are simply never a D1 lynch) are more than capable of ensuring that they won't be a Day 1 lynch. This is a very long day-phase and we still have around 20 hours to go, right? If IAWY as good as you believe, he doesn't need any help defending himself.

Frog wrote:Imagine you are a vigilante and you have a D1 shot.

Your options are:
1) high posters / contributors
2) Medium posters
3) Medium posters but well known players
4) Slankers

I'd always choose a slanker over the top 3.

I would definitely choose the slankers if I had to choose my vig shot before Day 1 is over. But there's a difference between voting for someone and killing them. Voting is an intent to lynch, not a lynch itself. A vote allows you pressure people and get responses to build reads on. A vig shot is different because you cannot actually use it openly to question someone without claiming vigilante and threatening to kill them. Just thought it's a distinction I should mention. D1 I generally never feel too pressed to follow any one wagon. It generally takes till Day 2 (after a couple death flips) for me to really start scum-reading people conclusively. I like the idea of voting the low posters but I'm not going to be against voting others if I feel strongly.

(Y)

Marco is most Town.

Site was down for me too

Yaayyyy site is back, I lost a big post and I don't feel like doing it again so I'll continue as I was. I'll answer your question soonish Silver.

im home give 15-30 mins to settle in

ok anyways, MP i have gut read son them if that doesnt suffice then i dont got much else to say

sig is odd due to his birt of psting and being majoryldiffrent then turf

Haven't caught up yet, but mulling over this mornings exchange with Silverwolf, before I catch up I'm going to

UNVOTE

Ugh that Silver vs Golden vs MP vs Frog got annoying to read after awhile. :P

I'm leaning towards a Psittacitform or Zebra lynch today. I'll go over both of them tomorrow.
Zebra is playing different? Her filler posts to prove a point seemed really unlike her.
Psitt did something that pinged me which I can't recall atm.

Silverwolf wrote:

a2thezebra wrote: I do however think that in general going after lurkers is a common baddie tactic, and I also think that the way he's gone about it by denying that it's a policy lynch is very alarming.

Well, I hate to self meta but here goes, I will try to keep lurkers around as scum. I would much rather go after a higher quality poster. That said, and I believe this was already brought up by someone, it isn't the quantity of the posts that matters but the content. I do keep that in mind and more try to go for UTR (under the radar players) that I can't read or who are not being noticed more than just low content overall.

I agree with this. Take zebra as an example. In Star Wars, she was one of the highest posters. When she had hit something around 192 posts, I isoed her and found a distinct lack of content and commentary on very few players. I still was hesitant to lynch her (and in fact, didn't I think) because of how many posts she was contributing.

Quality over quantity, all day long. But, if people are giving so few posts that you can't measure the quality, thats when you need to induce them to post more.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:

Frog wrote:However- going to have to agree with you. Ore flip associations are usually lol. But let the ENTP in me lay out all of the tinfoils anyway!!!

You're ENTP? You should join PersonalityCafe lol \o/

I'm INTJ.

snap

Silverwolf wrote:So basically I have Golden and Inawordyes as possible scum so far.

I know you have posted about why you find IAWY scummy, but any chance you could give a brief summary or specify the one thing that most pings you? I find as of now I have very little read of him or memory of his contributions.

Golden wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:So basically I have Golden and Inawordyes as possible scum so far.

I know you have posted about why you find IAWY scummy, but any chance you could give a brief summary or specify the one thing that most pings you? I find as of now I have very little read of him or memory of his contributions.

I didn't like his RVS vote on Soneji and most of his posts show a lack of trying to figure the game out at all. Frog said he's a high quality and content poster as town. So I'd like to see some of that.

Also, @ika-Now that you are home, let's go over some of your reads. Do you have a rainbow list or a list like I produced earlier?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:I'm thoroughly over Ika defending Silver at any given chance. Can someone just clarify what their relationship normally is in games? It's bizarre as hell.

Ika should contribute something else.

Between the whole Silver/Golden discussion my thoughts are roughly this: First of all I didn't really see anything wrong with the MP vote. Second, none of Golden's questions were unreasonable or misrepping or whatever else Silver called it, it was just normal questioning. Reacting in this way seems to be normal for Silver though as I read it. All in all Silver reads townish to me, even if I don't agree with how she takes Golden's questioning. She seems to be putting herself in a position of being above questioning. Which she is not. Still reads more town to me. Golden however is if he is scum given a golden opportunity (see what I did there? :3) to defend himself in a way that makes logical sense all the way and he could objectively defend his position.
However my question is: Golden, do you still suspect Silver?
I also note that Golden is slightly apologetic in this interaction for "ticking Silver off" (which I don't think he needs to be cause he did nothing wrong). He may just be a polite young gentleman, but it reads a bit guilty mindset.
Like, I find it really hard to trust Golden, and I don't know whether I'm paranoid or not.

I don't know if this thought process will make sense to anyone.

The former.

Indeed. I can come across as quite an aggressive player, especially to those who don't know me. I want to make sure people know I'm not being personal, that it is strictly on a game level that I'm being aggressive to help figure out my reads, and that when the game is over I'll mea culpa when I'm wrong or dance on their grave a little if I'm right. I really do like everyone (and feel like the new bunch in this game seem like a great lot as well) and I like it if people know that so that they don't feel its personal.

And besides that, this site tries its hardest to pride itself on being a safe and friendly community where people can have fun and I'm committed to doing my part in that.

Silverwolf wrote:Sig ISO and thoughts:

First @Sig:

-Why is my argument with Golden TvT to you, can you elaborate on this please?

-You said you don't think zexy is mafia. Elaborate please?

-Why do you not think sloonei is mafia but are null reading him after your interaction with him?

-What was townie about In a words entrance to the thread?

I notice sig makes a lot of comments like this without much explanation so I'm gonna wait for his answers to these questions before I give a read here.

Okay so I'm civ reading both you and Golden. I think your both trying to scum hunt and be genuine. However, your attempting this in different ways and butting heads. I notice this happens alot among the town "alphas" That is what is happening with you two. It looks like you've resolved your disagreement which is good since as I said I think it was TvT. I think it is more likely for scum to be laying low right now.

I never said Sloonei was mafia, I said he was pingy and I had a mafia lean on him. Which is different from thinking he is mafia. I suspected him mainly since he suspected me and seemed to be trying to stop me from talking. However, like I've said after looking it over and seeing more of his posts I don't think this is the case. I've bumped him back up to null.

I'm reading Zexy as civ for a few reasons. It is in part due to a gut read and also since he seems to be very genuine. I haven't played with him before (I think) so I could be . I also see no reason for a mafia Zexy to have defended me early in game. So that did give him some civ points with me. Plus like I said he seems to be game solving and his tone seems good.

It was mainly a gut/tone thing his entrance post 1 and 2 doesn't seem like something a mafia player would do.
I'll have more solid reads later in the game, but I rarely have anything good besides gut/tone reads day 1.

However, I do want to point out I find it strange some people are saying I'm playing harder then usually which is scummy while others are saying I'm no contributing. Those are like the opposite.

I'm eyeballing Pits, Zebra, Dyslexicon, and Wilgy. I'll ISO all four later.

Linki: Golden I disagree with this post.

Golden wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:I'm thoroughly over Ika defending Silver at any given chance. Can someone just clarify what their relationship normally is in games? It's bizarre as hell.

Ika should contribute something else.

Between the whole Silver/Golden discussion my thoughts are roughly this: First of all I didn't really see anything wrong with the MP vote. Second, none of Golden's questions were unreasonable or misrepping or whatever else Silver called it, it was just normal questioning. Reacting in this way seems to be normal for Silver though as I read it. All in all Silver reads townish to me, even if I don't agree with how she takes Golden's questioning. She seems to be putting herself in a position of being above questioning. Which she is not. Still reads more town to me. Golden however is if he is scum given a golden opportunity (see what I did there? :3) to defend himself in a way that makes logical sense all the way and he could objectively defend his position.
However my question is: Golden, do you still suspect Silver?
I also note that Golden is slightly apologetic in this interaction for "ticking Silver off" (which I don't think he needs to be cause he did nothing wrong). He may just be a polite young gentleman, but it reads a bit guilty mindset.
Like, I find it really hard to trust Golden, and I don't know whether I'm paranoid or not.

I don't know if this thought process will make sense to anyone.

The former.

Indeed. I can come across as quite an aggressive player, especially to those who don't know me. I want to make sure people know I'm not being personal, that it is strictly on a game level that I'm being aggressive to help figure out my reads, and that when the game is over I'll mea culpa when I'm wrong or dance on their grave a little if I'm right. I really do like everyone (and feel like the new bunch in this game seem like a great lot as well) and I like it if people know that so that they don't feel its personal.

And besides that, this site tries its hardest to pride itself on being a safe and friendly community where people can have fun and I'm committed to doing my part in that.

It's a big lie! You aren't young you're like 30 that is ancient practical a dinosaur. They probably only had crank electricity when you were young. :P

Silverwolf wrote:

Golden wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:So basically I have Golden and Inawordyes as possible scum so far.

I know you have posted about why you find IAWY scummy, but any chance you could give a brief summary or specify the one thing that most pings you? I find as of now I have very little read of him or memory of his contributions.

I didn't like his RVS vote on Soneji and most of his posts show a lack of trying to figure the game out at all. Frog said he's a high quality and content poster as town. So I'd like to see some of that.

Also, @ika-Now that you are home, let's go over some of your reads. Do you have a rainbow list or a list like I produced earlier?

not really i had a list earlier, i dont plan on trying to reread it all either. i rather do real time stuff

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I find it very much in character for Golden to defend me, regardless of his alignment, since it's something we both will not hesitate to do if we think the other one is town and is attracting heat early on, since we both often talk a lot and attract a lot of early suspicion, whether fairly or unfairly. A town Golden will not hesitate to defend with conviction any player he believes is town, but a scum Golden would have a similar incentive here since he would know I'm town. So the fact that he defends me is NAI, but I wanted to elaborate upon this nonetheless, in an attempt to provide meaningful context for Silverwolf and anyone else interested.

Do you think Golden had any reason to read you town at that time?

Not particularly, no. As I mentioned earlier, I saw it more as an attempt to defend me from being mafia based on my content in the thread at that time, rather than defend me for being town, if that makes sense. If others disagree, please state so.

This is exactly what it was in my mind. At the time of SW's vote I had no read on MP either way, but silverwolf rightly called my behaviour 'whiteknighting' and I do it quite regularly. I would call it defending someone against a rationale that I don't agree with. Sometimes I get caught defending scum because I'm defending them against an accusation I think is incorrect. And maybe the accusation WAS incorrect, but in any event they are still scum.

It is important to distinguish between disagreeing with someones case (and do therefore implicitly defending the person who is the subject of that case), and saying you read someone as town. They are different, even though they can easily appear conflated.

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Golden wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:So basically I have Golden and Inawordyes as possible scum so far.

I know you have posted about why you find IAWY scummy, but any chance you could give a brief summary or specify the one thing that most pings you? I find as of now I have very little read of him or memory of his contributions.

I didn't like his RVS vote on Soneji and most of his posts show a lack of trying to figure the game out at all. Frog said he's a high quality and content poster as town. So I'd like to see some of that.

Also, @ika-Now that you are home, let's go over some of your reads. Do you have a rainbow list or a list like I produced earlier?

not really i had a list earlier, i dont plan on trying to reread it all either. i rather do real time stuff

What is your read on me?

Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

sig wrote:It's a big lie! You aren't young you're like 30 that is ancient practical a dinosaur. They probably only had crank electricity when you were young. :P

ok, apart from the young thing. Don't rub it in.

Golden wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:

Frog wrote:However- going to have to agree with you. Ore flip associations are usually lol. But let the ENTP in me lay out all of the tinfoils anyway!!!

You're ENTP? You should join PersonalityCafe lol \o/

I'm INTJ.

snap

Off topic before I dig into the meat ( should take me ±3 hours to get through analysis)

I'll definitely play a few games over on PerC soon enough :-D

My goal is to play on all of the 100+ sites signed up for the tournament

Really wish we had bigger wagons to work with, mech analysis is pretty fooked.

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

If you can't catch up, I actually think its a good idea to vote someone who doesn't have very many posts.

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

I already gave you 4 names, let me lead
[*]Marshmellow
[*]Pilfirmous
[*]Dr Wigly
[*]A2Zebra

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

ISO'd Dr Wigly, he's posted no content whatsoever, if I had to compromise, I'd lynch here.

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

you asked who to vote for noting else

Silverwolf wrote:ISO'd Dr Wigly, he's posted no content whatsoever, if I had to compromise, I'd lynch here.

I feel the same, up to where I'm at. I nearly voted Wilgy when I unvoted, but in the end I thought it better that I catch up first.

Frog wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

I already gave you 4 names, let me lead
[*]Marshmellow
[*]Pilfirmous
[*]Dr Wigly
[*]A2Zebra

I won't vote metalmarsh because being flaky and elusive early on is his MO. I won't vote Pligifudhdjd because they're a stranger and I don't want to vote a stranger on Day 1 without substance to back me up. Zebra is sometimes quiet and sometimes aggressive early on. Her quietness, in my experience, has been either because she's scum or is busy. I could vote for her.
Wilgy is normally a vocal player but Imm pretty sure he's currently in a tense late-game situation in Spirited Away so his semi-absence here would be explainable.

Zebra is my top choice of these names, I guess. I'll have a look.

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

you asked who to vote for noting else

Now I'm asking why. Why?

Silverwolf - at the point I'm up to, ika has seemingly only suspected people who have first suspected him or you. Would you say this is alignment indicative for ika in any way? More specifically, would you say the lack of other suspicions is alignment indicative, because I believe him sticking up for you and voting for people who suspect you is not alignment indicative.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Null:
sig

Why is sig null?

Golden wrote:Silverwolf - at the point I'm up to, ika has seemingly only suspected people who have first suspected him or you. Would you say this is alignment indicative for ika in any way? More specifically, would you say the lack of other suspicions is alignment indicative, because I believe him sticking up for you and voting for people who suspect you is not alignment indicative.

No, him defending me and voting those who vote me, if he truly believes I'm town-which is why I asked for his read on me-is NAI. He has to do some other scumhunting though besides that for me to get a good townread.

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

you asked who to vote for noting else

Now I'm asking why. Why?

i know i wanted to have some fun.

no but mp doesnt seem to believe in his push when he was pushing me when i called him out on it.

then when sivler moves her vote after MP was suspecing her slighy, makes a 180 and joins her

So Zebra has 18 posts, 12 of which are full blown fluff, six other posts some of which are fluffy. Most of which only address Frog's plan.

a2thezebra wrote:That's his meta, it's null. Same with anything I do that seems peculiar or suspicious.

Okay she is talking about LC not an alignment indicator.

a2thezebra wrote:Okay, now I have a total of 11 posts. I am no longer in the bottom four.

...And yet I am just as likely to be bad as I was before I started posting.

Frog can deny it all he wants, but the methods he's using to base his vote are absolutely advocating a policy lynch.

So uses filler to proves a point, I don't think she has done this before? I'd also disagree that it is a policy lynch.

a2thezebra wrote:If you're fine with a policy lynch, okay, whatever, but advocating a policy lynch while denying that it's a policy lynch is highly suspicious to me. Especially when that policy lynch is based on going after the lurkers. I have seen baddies use lurker policy lynches time and time again to pick off the civilian lower posters while cruising their way to endgame by being very opinionated and very vocal, and almost every time I've seen that they have always advocated lynching lurkers while shying away from the term "policy lynch" as much as possible.

I appreciate the effort and analysis Frog, but my personal opinion on that tactic - if it is genuine - is fuck that noise.

More talking about Frog/policy lynch. She attempts to throw some suspicion at Frog here.

a2thezebra wrote:Not to mention that I've gone after lower posters as a baddie while being extremely loud and obnoxious myself. I've totally used the myth that lower posters are more likely to be baddies than higher posters to my advantage, almost every single time I've been bad in this game. Even after people got used to that being my meta both here and on RYM, it would still work.

"Zebra can't be a baddie even though she did this suspicious thing and that suspicious thing...she's posting so much! I say we lynch one of the lurkers!"

-A few hours later-

"Ah shit, RIP So-and-so. I was so convinced, too. Well, what other lurker could we lynch tomorrow?"

The lesson is never learned.

Meta reasoning for not going after low posters.

a2thezebra wrote:

Marco wrote:Looks to me like she's either very passionate against policy lynches on low posters or she's trying to soft-defend low posters by discouraging a push on them.

It's both. I take no shame in soft(?) defending the lower posters, if for no other reason that I feel like they get taken advantage of by manipulative baddies almost every game. I'm not ruling out the possibility that any of them are bad, but I am ruling out the possibility that they are bad simply for not posting a lot of content.

She is once again defending low posters, however after just saying her baddie meta is to hunt low posters then this is pingy. It seems as if she is establishing her baddie meta then playing agaisnt it. I could see baddie Zebra doing this espacilly if one or more of her teammates are low posters.

a2thezebra wrote:And to answer your concern Marco, I'm not entirely sold on a baddie read of Frog yet, because this approach could just be his style and therefore I could be suspecting him for something irrelevant to his alignment. I do however think that in general going after lurkers is a common baddie tactic, and I also think that the way he's gone about it by denying that it's a policy lynch is very alarming.

Same point as I said above, also Zebra is hesitant to name Frog a baddie. Even though she says it is a baddie strategy.


So there isn't much here, but I dislike it. All her posts are either filler or only based around what Frog said. This makes her seem active, but in fact she has contributed very little. I also dislike her meta talk. Saying as a baddie she hunts low posters, but is defending them this game seems like she is a baddie playing agaisnt her meta to seem civvie.

a2thezebra wrote:This isn't spam by the way because I'm making a crucial point with these posts.

D.

a2thezebra wrote:Okay, now I have a total of 11 posts. I am no longer in the bottom four.

...And yet I am just as likely to be bad as I was before I started posting.

Frog can deny it all he wants, but the methods he's using to base his vote are absolutely advocating a policy lynch.

This seems like zebra is just trying to be contrarian and throw a wrench in Frog's proposed plan, but the stated reasoning does not really seem effective or sensible. Just "I'm going to tell you this plan is bad because I can."

As far as Zebra, I know is a high content poster as town in our heist game but not as much in Turf Wars-I could compromise there as well.

I am waiting until tomorrow when metalmarsh has promised to contribute more to judge him at all.

So yeah, I would prefer IAWY with Zebra and Dr Wilgy as compromise.

Psittaciform and Soneji have got to step it up soon but I can wait until D2 due to almost nothing to work with and nothing to work with.

So there ya go-Zebra, Wilgy, IAWY and metalmarsh only if no content tomorrow.

Silverwolf wrote:As far as Zebra, I know is a high content poster as town in our heist game but not as much in Turf Wars-I could compromise there as well.

I am waiting until tomorrow when metalmarsh has promised to contribute more to judge him at all.

So yeah, I would prefer IAWY with Zebra and Dr Wilgy as compromise.

Psittaciform and Soneji have got to step it up soon but I can wait until D2 due to almost nothing to work with and nothing to work with.

So there ya go-Zebra, Wilgy, IAWY and metalmarsh only if no content tomorrow.

what about sig/marco and frog reads?

have they changed

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

you asked who to vote for noting else

Now I'm asking why. Why?

i know i wanted to have some fun.

no but mp doesnt seem to believe in his push when he was pushing me when i called him out on it.

then when sivler moves her vote after MP was suspecing her slighy, makes a 180 and joins her

could you link me to the posts you are referring to? Please and thank you

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:As far as Zebra, I know is a high content poster as town in our heist game but not as much in Turf Wars-I could compromise there as well.

I am waiting until tomorrow when metalmarsh has promised to contribute more to judge him at all.

So yeah, I would prefer IAWY with Zebra and Dr Wilgy as compromise.

Psittaciform and Soneji have got to step it up soon but I can wait until D2 due to almost nothing to work with and nothing to work with.

So there ya go-Zebra, Wilgy, IAWY and metalmarsh only if no content tomorrow.

what about sig/marco and frog reads?

have they changed

They are all town to me right now with sig being the weakest of the bunch but I like his answers to my questions and his Zebra push is good.

Your read on me?

VOTE A2THEZEBRA, happy!?

Marco wrote:That is the context. If any of the Top 8 posters are scum, and their scum-buddies are in the bottom 4, by asking all 8 posters to evenly distribute their votes, we're making sure that who they vote for is pointless. They have no incentive to save their wolf bro because regardless of who they vote for, another person in the Top 8 list will equalize the votes.

I agree with this. I'd go a step further and say that if I was wolf, and I knew any of the 4 was my wolf buddy, I'd probably either get the vote in on them early, randomise and pick whoever came up (no matter whether they were my buddy or not), or wait till the end and have plausible deniability with whatever vote I pick. There are so many ways to avoid VCA when the outcome is clear.

I think the plan has other merits, but not really VCA merits amongst the high posters. Quite possible VCA amongst the others, though.

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Somebody tell me who I should vote for. I am not going to be able to read this thread tonight. Or tomorrow. Or the next day. I probably should have stayed on the sidelines.

moving picutre

Why?

you asked who to vote for noting else

Now I'm asking why. Why?

i know i wanted to have some fun.

no but mp doesnt seem to believe in his push when he was pushing me when i called him out on it.

then when sivler moves her vote after MP was suspecing her slighy, makes a 180 and joins her

could you link me to the posts you are referring to? Please and thank you

sigh...... can you iso him and read that at least?

Silverwolf wrote:

ika wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:As far as Zebra, I know is a high content poster as town in our heist game but not as much in Turf Wars-I could compromise there as well.

I am waiting until tomorrow when metalmarsh has promised to contribute more to judge him at all.

So yeah, I would prefer IAWY with Zebra and Dr Wilgy as compromise.

Psittaciform and Soneji have got to step it up soon but I can wait until D2 due to almost nothing to work with and nothing to work with.

So there ya go-Zebra, Wilgy, IAWY and metalmarsh only if no content tomorrow.

what about sig/marco and frog reads?

have they changed

They are all town to me right now with sig being the weakest of the bunch but I like his answers to my questions and his Zebra push is good.

Your read on me?

town, i know your furstation like that is town you by a default. yes i know you have said that you can do it as scum in EXTREME situations.

i feel like if you were scum you wouldnt be so aggro about defending me

Silverwolf wrote:

Frog wrote:Lol Silverwolf - such effort. I'm literally just ignoring MP right now. He's either derping hard or tryhard wolf. It's really not worth the effort.

If he's tryhard wolf, it is worth the effort to me.

@LC-if you think ika and I pad ourselves to midgame, why am I dying early in my games? Makes no sense you would say that.

Indeed. Actually, I had an epiphany earlier when I suspected you that if I were a scum, I would probably nk one of you before ever suspecting either of you so that I could take the other one of you on in the thread without having the other person in defence. If anything, I think the fact you look like the pair is a disadvantage for you staying alive. Except where you are both scum, in which case it might be an advantage in avoiding the lynch for a while.

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote: i know i wanted to have some fun.

no but mp doesnt seem to believe in his push when he was pushing me when i called him out on it.

then when sivler moves her vote after MP was suspecing her slighy, makes a 180 and joins her

could you link me to the posts you are referring to? Please and thank you

sigh...... can you iso him and read that at least?

No. I am a lazy townie and I'm dragging you all down with me.

Golden wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Frog wrote:Lol Silverwolf - such effort. I'm literally just ignoring MP right now. He's either derping hard or tryhard wolf. It's really not worth the effort.

If he's tryhard wolf, it is worth the effort to me.

@LC-if you think ika and I pad ourselves to midgame, why am I dying early in my games? Makes no sense you would say that.

Indeed. Actually, I had an epiphany earlier when I suspected you that if I were a scum, I would probably nk one of you before ever suspecting either of you so that I could take the other one of you on in the thread without having the other person in defence. If anything, I think the fact you look like the pair is a disadvantage for you staying alive. Except where you are both scum, in which case it might be an advantage in avoiding the lynch for a while.

remind me to tell you how badly we want scum together. like we have had dicussions about what we would do every time

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

ika wrote: i know i wanted to have some fun.

no but mp doesnt seem to believe in his push when he was pushing me when i called him out on it.

then when sivler moves her vote after MP was suspecing her slighy, makes a 180 and joins her

could you link me to the posts you are referring to? Please and thank you

sigh...... can you iso him and read that at least?

No. I am a lazy townie and I'm dragging you all down with me.

i know, im lazy too, i jsut got home from baingout of state

Zexy wrote: Inactive, not reading through the thread… is this his regular meta?

From my perspective, Wilgy is the most metaless player I know.

linki @ika - I bet. I can imagine you being very effective. I think the worst case scenario for you to is being on opposite sides and having to fool each other.