The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:59 pm**

About 30 minutes to go and I'm torn. Other input would be incredibly appreciated.

I wish I had the chance to explore other ISOs, but at this point it'd be a mad dash. Ugh.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:02 pm**

Looking at other counterwagons:

I'm a bit paranoid of Sloonei and malakim at the moment for distinct reasons, but I can't see myself wanting to vote for them considering the other names on the table and without having done thorough investigation.

I could consider a vote for Blooper, I suppose. I'll look at her ISO quickly now.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:04 pm**

Just FYI guys, we think we figured out why there were some problems with phantom @ mentions. If you quote a post with an @ mention in it, it kind of confuses the @ mention system. If you quote something with an @ mention in it, try deleting the @ mention.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:07 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:52 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:46 pm What do you mean by feeling any lynch pressure? And what post?

If you mean feeling like I'd be lynched....I felt like tgat all day.
Sorry, I should have been more specific.

The post I'm referring to is this post in which you said Dom was coming out of nowhere and such, you didn't mention him being suspicious. If you click on that post and scroll up, that's when I had already made my aggressive posts and vote towards Dom, though I hadn't yet come back to the thread and made my giant reiteration post. So I would say he was a topic of discussion.

Now regarding lynch pressure, you just said in response to me asking you why you didn't mention suspects earlier is that you felt as though you were going to be lynched. But you made various posts throughout the Day cycle, including that post I just referenced above, right? And you mentioned you said "all" of the names being discussed are town. I already have reason to believe this is noncongruent with a suspicion of Dom you just now stated. What further bothers me is that your explanation that you thought you were going to be lynched and THAT's why you didn't give suspects earlier is a bit odd considering you had zero votes at the time you made your posts earlier in the day. So what made you feel like you were going to be lynched, especially if there were many other topics of discussion?

I just really don't understand your motivations. You've said you're baddie hunting. I don't see it. Then I threatened your life tonight and you threw out some reads in quick succession, but you never mentioned these earlier. You can see why I think you might be pulling them out of thin air, right?

TBQH, I don't read your whole posts thoroughly all the time. I didn't know you had suddested Do. As a suspect. With all due respects, your poata are long. Today I got up at 7:30 and got the kids out the door to take epi to work, came back, made breakfast, did school for three different kids, three different grades, sang a song (don't ask), made lunch, packed water and snacks, went to a two hour apt with the kids for Simon... did more school in the waiting room with grade K ans grade 3, went to the park, got called back to the appointment place because the specialist forgot to test simon on one section, went back to the oark for an hour in which I pushed E on the swing, helped with monkwy bara, etc, picked epi up, went home and bathed youngwst two kids, worked on cakes, showered, got my hair done by abigail aince she likes to do it wgen its wet, ate dinner, watched a show with my fam, and now I'm talking to you. I'm just a busy gal. I'm trying. I posted a LOT today for my busy day. I deserve a cookie.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:08 pm**

Elo, that's fair, thanks. It's believable.

I know I just grilled you; you have to understand I'm just trying to sort you out.

I'm willing to let you live for the duration.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:09 pm**

My namea been thriwn around aince last night...i knew I was doomed then.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:11 pm**

I suppose I'm headed back to Dom. At the end of the day, I still feel there's something of substance there, even having taken a step back and tried to consider it all again removed from the immediate frustration. dunya's perspective in particular was understandable, but in my mind I think Dom's logic still falls apart and the point stands that he had plenty of time to explain his assertion and yet he has failed to do so, and I still think it's more likely than not because he fabricated it.

It really is completely inconvenient that Dom has vanished though; I am at truly a loss. I was hoping for him to say at least something today so I could assess a response. Ugh.

I'm still throwing around other options, I suppose.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:12 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:09 pm My namea been thriwn around aince last night...i knew I was doomed then.

Never resign your fate as a townie. You are just as capable as anyone to contribute to a win, regardless of your RL obstacles. I know you have it in you.

Now if you're bad, then by all means, throw in the towel.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:12 pm**

Don't think I'm upset... I'm not. I just want you to know everything so you know how much it takes for me to be as involved as I am. I don't want you to feel bad that I only skim tour longa posts. Iwasn't planning on being in two mafias. Epi guilts me into it every time. I haven't had a day off from work in weeks.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:13 pm**

Thanks, MP. I just got that same pep talk an hour ago. Thats why Im hwre

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:13 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:12 pm Don't think I'm upset... I'm not. I just want you to know everything so you know how much it takes for me to be as involved as I am. I don't want you to feel bad that I only skim tour longa posts. Iwasn't planning on being in two mafias. Epi guilts me into it every time. I haven't had a day off from work in weeks.

Good to know. I hope you know that any aggression I throw your way or anyone else's way is purely in an in-game fashion.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:14 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:13 pm Thanks, MP. I just got that same pep talk an hour ago. Thats why Im hwre

From your teammates?

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:15 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:55 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:51 pm The whole nap thing today though and catching up and ready to post all in about 40 minutes time is what sealed my suspicion of blooper.
Whom do you find more suspicious: Blooper or Dom? You said those were you top two suspects, right?

[mention]Elohcin[/mention]

Didn't see a response to this.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:16 pm**

Blooper. That's why I voted her.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:17 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:16 pm Blooper. That's why I voted her.

Got it, thanks. Try your best to convince me.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:19 pm**

Go find her posts. Have you heard of anyone taking a nap, catching up on over 24 hours of mafia, and writing a post in about 40 minutes?

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:21 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:14 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:13 pm Thanks, MP. I just got that same pep talk an hour ago. Thats why Im hwre
From your teammates?

No. I was talking to a friend of mine this evening about mafia.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:22 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:19 pm Go find her posts. Have you heard of anyone taking a nap, catching up on over 24 hours of mafia, and writing a post in about 40 minutes?

I did just take a look at her ISO; there's a whole lot of nothing mostly, though she has thrown out a few thoughts/opinions.

I do find it dubious, but it's plausible that she didn't so much catch up as she did notice the @ mention in Sloonei's post and respond to it first.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:22 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:21 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:14 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:13 pm Thanks, MP. I just got that same pep talk an hour ago. Thats why Im hwre
From your teammates?
No. I was talking to a friend of mine this evening about mafia.

I'm just messing with you.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:23 pm**

IRL. Its always weird explaining it to RL people. They always say things like..."oh, interesting"

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:24 pm**

FWIW, just so it's clear, I'm still keeping an eye on you, Elo, but you're a slight town read. I put enormous pressure on you and GTH I think you responded in a genuine fashion. I appreciate your attempts to get grounded back into the game.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:25 pm**

MP Rainbow List #5 - EoD Day 2

Moderate Town
dunya
Long Con
speedchuck

Slight Town
DFaraday
Diiny
Elohcin
malakim2099
Sloonei

Slight Mafia
DrWilgy
JaggedJimmyJay
nijuukyugou
Simon

Moderate Mafia
Dom

I'm keeping my vote on Dom.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:26 pm**

Well... you're welcome. I do like playing and I shouldn't have given up so easy.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:27 pm**

Less than 10 minutes to go and 8 votes. I'm assuming we aren't getting any additional ones.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:28 pm**

Well...less thank 10 minutes left and I am ties with dom. Voting him. I'm not only trying to save myself but I think he may be bad.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:28 pm**

God I hope I'm right.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:36 pm**

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:37 pm**

Round 2...Fight!

Poll ended at Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:35 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

DFaraday
0
No votes

Voters: None

Diiny
0
No votes

Voters: None

Dom
3
27%

Voters: Elohcin, DFaraday, MovingPictures07

DrWilgy
0
No votes

Voters: None

dunya
0
No votes

Voters: None

Elohcin
2
18%

Voters: Sloonei, malakim2099

Long Con
0
No votes

Voters: None

MovingPictures07
1
9%

Voters: Simon

JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes

Voters: None

malakim2099
1
9%

Voters: dunya

nijuukyugou
0
No votes

Voters: None

Simon
0
No votes

Voters: None

Sloonei
1
9%

Voters: Diiny

speedchuck
0
No votes

Voters: None

Adon (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
3
27%

Voters: Spacedaisy, Jackofhearts2005, Epignosis

Total votes: 11

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:39 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:36 pm F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

You and me both.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:40 pm**

Although mine is not actually F5 as I'm on my phone.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:40 pm**

YOU LOSE!
Dom has been lynched. He was:

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:41 pm**

It is now Night 2. You have until 9pm EST to submit your Night actions.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:42 pm**

Is that good or bad...i don't know these characters?

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:42 pm**

blargadm;laddisaifmmsfsaf

FUCK

I give up.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:44 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:42 pm Is that good or bad...i don't know these characters?

I wasn't totally sure myself, so I copied the post image (https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/st ... /[b]Deejay[/b]-hurt.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140419141953), but it appears to be Dee Jay based on the URL -- who is a townie.

I have a ton to do, but I also just need a break after that. Ugh. See you all whenever.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:47 pm**

Sorry dom, if you were good. Looks like a bad guy to me, but if MP is right, RIP.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:09 pm**

Dammit. I thought I voted for Eloh before I left.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:14 pm**

Diiny wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:26 pm
linki: This isn't really an argument I'd shoot down with "but wifom, though." Scum isn't going to base their entire nightkill on some weird backward motive play based on the day's previous posts.
what if that's what they want you to think
welcome to wifom hell.

Buddy you should have seen me in night vale. I literally researched games I wasn't on this site for to introduce new wine.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:18 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:35 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:27 pm malakim possible w/w with Eloh. Would rather lynch Eloh than malakim I think. Positive results will spur a look at malakim.

Gotta say I'm not huge on lynching blooper or LC

I'll leave my vote on Eloh for now. Sorry I can't be active more around dayend. Family.
Can you explain why when you get the chance?

LC's response to your pressure and the way he's doubting everything just feels town to me. Specifically LC brand flavor of town. Town that doesn't give a single crap who he targets for suspicion and doesn't care about looking scummy and won't let anyone get too comfortable.

Blooper has looked fine to me all game. The supposed contradiction that blooper was called out for made sense in context if you assume blooper is thinking flexibly, trying to catch people with too much show or too little participation. Rather than try and seem consistent, bloops is trying to hunt, and at least following a pretty good method IMO. Haven't zeroed in enough to grade performance, but I like the flexible focus.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:21 pm**

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:06 pm Elo, I feel that in an OT sense she's being very helpful and I think that's messing with my read of her. But now that MP posted the other observations, particularly her lack of reads... I'm inclined to Vote Elohcin as well. It feels like she's coasting a bit. Maybe I'm crazy.

Making me feel a bit less good about Eloh/malakim alignment. Only a little tho.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:26 pm**

Eloh's responses... some look really good, some don't. I don't see how the nap thing points to a scumread. Why would scum say that rather than town? Asking you, mostly, Eloh.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:38 pm**

Really sorry I missed the vote. I'm in three Mafia games right now, and I failed to schedule my vote correctly.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:01 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:58 pmI don't buy that MP totally thinks you're civ for a second.
Why not? I'm in the elite green of his list, and he's stated more than once that he doesn't think I'm bad, if I recall correctly.

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:56 pmThis is the post that caught my eye, really. Been thinking about this. I highlighted LC's response because I really don't like that defense of "well, I'm cleared by MP!" ...

[snip]

Long Con (the defense highlighted above, it just seems like "MP gave me a clean bill of health!" without really proving a defense)

Just want to say that your analysis is unwarranted. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but you have ignored the context and made up your own interpretation that doesn't accurately understand what happened.

You are reacting like I was defending myself by invoking MP's trust of me, when it was a response to Dom's suggestion that... that MP doesn't think I'm Civ, I think? (To be honest, I didn't quite get what Dom meant by it, maybe that MP and I are teammates?) Anyway, you see what I mean? I agree that it would not be a worthwhile or convincing defense for me to use, you are right about that. But I wasn't using it as a defense.

I was offering evidence that MP does indeed think I'm Civ.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:18 pmLC's response to your pressure and the way he's doubting everything just feels town to me. Specifically LC brand flavor of town. Town that doesn't give a single crap who he targets for suspicion and doesn't care about looking scummy and won't let anyone get too comfortable.

I should try to bottle it and drink a bit when I'm bad.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:26 pm Eloh's responses... some look really good, some don't. I don't see how the nap thing points to a scumread. Why would scum say that rather than town? Asking you, mostly, Eloh.

I am not convinced that Elohcin's accusation of nijuu was genuine.

Posted: **Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:40 pm**

Also, malakim's misinterpretation of context, intentional baddie move or innocent Civ mistake?

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:13 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:40 pm Also, malakim's misinterpretation of context, intentional baddie move or innocent Civ mistake?

Not certain.

Depends on how good malakim is at scumhunting. Or, moreso, how much he/she thinks like I do.

I could see it either way.

Scum mindset is looking for mistakes. So any apparent mistake, like contradicting yourself, is a gold mine for suspicion. But some town people hunt like that as well.

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:35 am**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:27 pm I still think niju could be bad fornsame reasons as before. And qhen I calles her on it, her whole mood changed for her moat recent posts.....

I'll catch up more today (hopefully), but I did want to make a point about this - when I was "bubbly" and active, it was a Sunday afternoon/evening, when I had finished all of my work stuff and had no obligations (and perhaps a little...beverage help

). This is the first full week of school for us, and I'm loaded up with stuff this year, so I'm definitely not as active throughout the week, and I'll be back to doing mega-catch up posts most likely instead of quick, conversational posts in real time. Such is the teacher life.

As for last night, I was genuinely pissed (and still am a bit) at, as I said, some game-unrelated family crap that happened in the evening and was in no mood for playing. Honestly, perhaps playing this game would've made me feel better about the whole thing, because I didn't sleep well last night because of it.

Anyway, I'm at work and should probably get to it, but I'll check back in later provided no other stupid crap prevents it

. Voting for me based on my moods is not the way to go - I'm going to be a whirlwind for the next, oh, year or so.

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:29 am**

Pretty much where I'm at, which is to say, not very far.

DF
Diiny
MP
Simon
Dunya
Speed
Sloonei
Elohcin
LC
JJJ
malakim
Wilgy
nijuukyugou

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:51 am**

I'm still exhausted from this game and otherwise very busy today anyway. I'll be around a bit tomorrow morning Central time (again, assuming not silenced, so if I don't post know for a fact that that's why). Company (specifically, BWT) will be here starting mid-day, so between balancing him visiting and still working a bit here and there, I'll be much less present for the foreseeable duration. I'll do what I can, but expect a massive dropoff.

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:28 pm**

If I don't post, then assume also that I am silenced.

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:31 pm**

I was exhausted after work last night and had to wake up early for another shift this morning. I am even more exhausted now. I'll have things to say later. Sorry for going silent.

Posted: **Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:43 pm**

Hey gang, back!

Sorry, between work and packing today and Pathfinder last night been VERY busy this night phase. TBH, if I knew how in depth you guys were I would probably have not signed up since my RL is crazy with the pending move. Not looking to be replaced yet though, I'm enjoying this a lot!

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:34 pm Also, just so you and malakim and everyone else knows, but dunya is female.

Sorry! I just defaulted since you can count the number of women players at HCR on one hand. Literally.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:38 pm Really sorry I missed the vote. I'm in three Mafia games right now, and I failed to schedule my vote correctly.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:01 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:58 pmI don't buy that MP totally thinks you're civ for a second.
Why not? I'm in the elite green of his list, and he's stated more than once that he doesn't think I'm bad, if I recall correctly.

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:56 pmThis is the post that caught my eye, really. Been thinking about this. I highlighted LC's response because I really don't like that defense of "well, I'm cleared by MP!" ...

[snip]

Long Con (the defense highlighted above, it just seems like "MP gave me a clean bill of health!" without really proving a defense)
Just want to say that your analysis is unwarranted. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but you have ignored the context and made up your own interpretation that doesn't accurately understand what happened.

You are reacting like I was defending myself by invoking MP's trust of me, when it was a response to Dom's suggestion that... that MP doesn't think I'm Civ, I think? (To be honest, I didn't quite get what Dom meant by it, maybe that MP and I are teammates?) Anyway, you see what I mean? I agree that it would not be a worthwhile or convincing defense for me to use, you are right about that. But I wasn't using it as a defense. I was offering evidence that MP does indeed think I'm Civ.

-snip-

LC, re-reading that, you are quite correct. That was my mistake, and I offer an apology.

I'm working on a rainbow chart to rate my feels of people right now. Will be a bit off and on the next phase, but if I don't post at all, silenced.

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