The Syndicate

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:38 am @esooa do you think there's a chance HK is town and glavial is mafia here?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:46 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:40 amyes

I can't remember much of what you said from read through, which do you think is more likely and why?

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:34 am

It wasn't a literal is it possible, it was a do you think this situation is likely, I believe the context of me asking for someone's opinion on it makes it clear I wasn't actually asking is this literally possible in any world

Unless I'm the biggest idiot in the world (possibly) I obviously knew this was possible, therefore you must apply context to what I actually mean in this instance. As far as I can tell the only person who actually didn't understand what I meant was you, consideirng esooa or no one else so far has even agreed with you or mentioned something similar to what you are saying now. Esooa went down the cool not bothered to interact route.

The problem here isn't my question, it's that you appear to take everything absolutely literally which is ok but displays a general lack of comprehension in my opinion. Not trying to be toxic about it but you're digging deeper so it forces me to point it out atp. When speaking human communication often has incidences where what someone says literal and the clear intention are different, it is up to the reciever to grasp what is intended relevant to the context and respond. Clearly you could not do this here and to be honest that a big load of not my problem. Unless you vote me. That would be my problem. Dont vote me please.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:44 am If we're talking about unproductive then I think spending 5000 words arguing about the definition of possible is pretty unproductive.

I have no concerns about Ender, he came in after 6 years of not playing mafia and immediately proceeded to be one of the highest volume solvers in the thread.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:44 am If we're talking about unproductive then I think spending 5000 words arguing about the definition of possible is pretty unproductive.

I have no concerns about Ender, he came in after 6 years of not playing mafia and immediately proceeded to be one of the highest volume solvers in the thread.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:45 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:44 am If we're talking about unproductive then I think spending 5000 words arguing about the definition of possible is pretty unproductive.

I have no concerns about Ender, he came in after 6 years of not playing mafia and immediately proceeded to be one of the highest volume solvers in the thread.

I really don't think it's that hard to not get rusty in mafia so idk about factoring that in. It sounds like you're considering him to be new

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:47 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:45 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:44 am If we're talking about unproductive then I think spending 5000 words arguing about the definition of possible is pretty unproductive.

I have no concerns about Ender, he came in after 6 years of not playing mafia and immediately proceeded to be one of the highest volume solvers in the thread.

I really don't think it's that hard to not get rusty in mafia so idk about factoring that in. It sounds like you're considering him to be new

I fully expect to have to patch holes in my scumhunting quality and my ability to hide things.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:48 am tbh if we want to talk about useless things what's about this

"We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie."

it's not true because lying is intentional and sometimes people can unwittingly say false things

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:49 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:47 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:45 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:44 am If we're talking about unproductive then I think spending 5000 words arguing about the definition of possible is pretty unproductive.

I have no concerns about Ender, he came in after 6 years of not playing mafia and immediately proceeded to be one of the highest volume solvers in the thread.

I really don't think it's that hard to not get rusty in mafia so idk about factoring that in. It sounds like you're considering him to be new

I fully expect to have to patch holes in my scumhunting quality and my ability to hide things.

maybe I'm just such a conniving bitch that my daily life includes enough wolfing to not get rusty

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:50 am And on that note, I'm now off to bed. G'night yall and I'll see you on flipside.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:20 am Does Creature try to fake acting like this as a wolf? I'm doubtful.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:29 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:20 am Does Creature try to fake acting like this as a wolf? I'm doubtful.

yes

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:40 am Oh right, I need to do something so I don't present as playing that badly as a wolf.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:25 am Every reason I've seen for people voting HK right now is bad.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:58 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:44 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:37 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:32 pm ITT: Gavial wrong AF, as usual.
When you decide to stop being a shouty gremlin lemme know and we can play some mafia, ok?

This is just ew.
First off buttercup, saying “I’m wrong” ain’t real convincing for yeah.
Your second line there seems to be a way to discredit what I’m saying, trying to call everything I’m saying out as pointless which is like real wolfy.
So like instead of complaining and whatnot how about you go ahead and discuss some other stuff with me.
You said this here -) “we can play some mafia”
We are playing mafia and as such I’m all ears to hear what you gotta say in your defence. Oh sweet sticky buttercup, how come you think you aren’t mafia?

Gavial, seriously, stop. You're making yourself look silly.

I dunno what bug crawled up your butt and died but you are being a shouty gremlin insisting you have the soul scum read on me, not giving literally any reasons why you have it, you've paired me with falcon for some god forsaken reason, and all you're doing is stomping your feet and jumping up and down shouting "HK is a wolf you guys seriously he is trust me" which isn't going to get you anywhere.

I'm not bothering to defend myself b/c you've got nothing

And just for the record, saying "HK is a wolf" ain't real convincing ;-)

Town

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:18 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:54 am Ok so let’s get to it.
The Hollowcat case. Right!

Hollowcat Case

Hollowcat has a bunch of bad reactions.
Such as Overreactions and “Your the Bad one Not Me!” type reactions with some “Unnatural”and “Not Genuine” Vibes in there
Which is Rand Wolf for them.

In Post#41 Hollowcat calls Esooa town. Now while I also read them the same, it wasn’t till later it stood out. This isn’t anything to do with the “wolfy part” but it’s more of the standby of “is this a genuine read or scum faking?”

In Post#76 Hollowcat instead of simply saying “I would have expected a different answer” which would have led to another conversation
they shut down their vote. Even though it wasn’t a strong reason anyway. But it was too the extent of trying to make them look bad. Like IDK about you but “the answer is poorly” doesn’t look that nice and towny to me and looks like exactly what I said it looks like.

In Post#79 after Esooa questioned their read they resorted to the default “Ha your funny” and if that was a meme read I honestly don’t understand what the point of it was.

Post#89 while again I agree with their read, again not for the same reason. I don’t see any of the genuine vibe here at all.

In Post#97 the first to sus HK was Alison whom calls them out on their lack of villager which I agree with. So HK calls their read weak and votes them. Lol OMGUS much? Not to mention an overreaction.

In Post#109 they are clearly discrediting Alison throwing the tennis ball like they just don’t care. Trying to make it seem like it’s pointless and they would only do this if they had motivational reason.

In Post#115 felt Unnatural like it was said oddly and done IMO like theatre but yeah I suppose it could be WvT. But I still don’t like it

Post#128 is yet again another unnatural post.
It shouldn’t have been said there considering their vote on Esooa not to mention as I said previously that out of nowhere TR Esooa and then calling it off as a meme read doesn’t sit right at all. Oh and yes “skeevy old man” means meme read try me Hollowcat, you ain’t gonna surpass.

Post#156 is an overreaction for me calling them and Falcon W/W aka scum buddies

Post#157 they purposely avoid the question like I said they would

I’ve already went over how bad Post#159 is just go read my ISO.

Post#162 they finally respond to the post that was seen from 157 and responds with “IDC”.

Post#163 Not only bad but first time you see them bringing up something “meta wise” previous game because from their stand point if they are scum which I truly think they are they don’t understand my case on them so they were presuming it had something to do with a grudge but it does not. Why would they even bring this up? I clearly said they did a good job in that game and ain’t the kind of guy to push hard for something that isn’t game relevant. See I’m a vibe man and by vibes this post is hella wolfy from HK.

As for Post#170 again went over it, check my ISO.

Post #174 is a major overreaction. Not only did they try and call out Long Con on their vote (which I’ve rarely meta wise seen HK care this much if a vote is placed on them or not)
anyway, HK then doesn’t like that I stated what I think should have been said (how LC has made a great vote) and then OMGUS votes me practically calling me a LHF and asking to PL.
Which is ????

Damn going with another one in Post#183 with another slap of the wrist town read that in HK’s world is fuckin god knows real or a meme. Like LOL.

Post #189 HK’s right! It’s not a burst of anger because he can’t get angry here because he ain’t being genuine and I’ve already given them exactly what it IS. (Overreaction, First time bring up meta, reverts to make me look bad with the LHF should I continue?) then the response of “I can link you some burst of anger if you’d like?” seems hella out of place like it just feels like a wolfy responses/defend there. Hopefully you guys can feel this vibe as well.

Post#194 came to the point I didn’t give a fuck to read that big part at the beginning of that post but what I did read is this: “My real read is that he's not town. I'm voting for him because he's behaving differently from my expectations of him, and would like to see him start making actually game relevant posts.”
Your expectations of me are???
I’ve been making plenty of game relevant posts thank you very much.

Oh FUCKIN DOOR BELL!
Check out Post#197 “Your case will be approximately as useful as an icebox to an Eskimo” bitch no. If you were town you would obviously admit here your trying to PL me for thinking I’m actually a LHF when I’m not. But instead it’s for some other dumb shit that is clearly false based on what you have given this fuckin game state.

#Post202 is a fuckin scum claim and open wolf lynch this bro now! This door shoe says “There's no policy to my vote on him.” Ok LMAO. Clearly you don’t even understand your own damn posts.

I’m not even going to care to go further.
Feel if I do I’m going to just irritate myself more but yeah that’s the case on Hollowcat so if you don’t want to vote an ObvWolf your kinda floor Matt.

Time to mass ping everyone except the voters and Nanook because he hates me pinging him.

@orangecrush
@Dolby
@Esooa
@Wiml
@EnderWiggin
@lost monkey
@Duskfall
@Creature
@Herm
@falcon45ca

Ok good chance glavial is incorrect townie I think

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:47 am Well it's more like... from what I've seen of your play before this game I think you can do a lot better than having an ISO that, in the nicest way possible, is effectively "I don't know what to do and I don't want to be wrong" regardless of your alignment and I don't see why you would attempt to have an ISO like that as a wolf when to my knowledge that isn't your usual town meta at all.

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:22 am Ok my D1 townies:
Alison
Ender
Hollokat
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Glavial
Herm

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:23 am Wrt my hk read:

It's mostly for meta/tone reasons. I've been looking for another HK wolf game to compare it to but you can't find them through his MU account for whatever reason.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:34 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:28 am

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:24 am I am reasonably confident that the whole group of actives players are overwhelmingly town and scum lie in the less active, would rather core a lurker than the people filling up the thread here today 1000 percent

Is this orangeandblack5 from 451 anyone know ?

who tf is orangeandblack5

@Duskfall

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:07 am @Long Con

Can you explain your vote on HK please?

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:14 am I'm not confident HK is town but I don't like his wagon and I certainly wouldn't go there today.

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:17 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:15 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:14 am I'm not confident HK is town but I don't like his wagon and I certainly wouldn't go there today.

Who would you go for?

ATM? Herm.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:20 am [VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:21 am [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

actually

he's naked voting orange btw

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:03 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:17 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:15 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:14 am I'm not confident HK is town but I don't like his wagon and I certainly wouldn't go there today.

Who would you go for?

ATM? Herm.

Herm is fuckin Townie yeah broken down turtle!

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:04 am @hollowkatt
Yes I’m pre-flipping you because your ObvScum.
Your Welcome!

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:04 am @hollowkatt
Yes I’m pre-flipping you because your ObvScum.
Your Welcome!

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:08 am I'm open to the idea of HK and Falcon being scumbuddies tbh.

First time playing with them though.

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:26 am Squeezing the afk players for now until HK and Falcon reappears!!!

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:29 am I was going to vote Falcon, but changed my mind in the middle of posting.

I would like to see more game thoughts from him before I decide if I want to vote him or not.

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:50 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:29 am

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:29 am I was going to vote Falcon, but changed my mind in the middle of posting.

I would like to see more game thoughts from him before I decide if I want to vote him or not.

Can you explain what made you scumread falcon please?

Unvoted and didn't move it anywhere after being pressured.

It's a very soft scumread. I waffle back and forth on him since he claimed out of nowhere.

Attributing the HK/Falcon pairing that other players have seen to my suspool.

Herm wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:24 am

Glavial wrote:Ok good chance glavial is incorrect townie I think

Glav buddy, from a scale of 1 to 100, how certain are you that HK and Falcon are scumbuddies lol?