The Molly Maguires Mafia (ENDGAME)

[DrWilgy]

Why is "mountainous" always related to an idk?

regardless, I appreciate the cliffs. I'll probably backread during lunch at work tomorrow.

[DrWilgy]

dRoPpEd OfF hArD

I said multiple times I started a new job. That's more than reasonable slank cover.

Yo, you thought you could get a job? clearly that makes you a wolf.

[MacDougall]

dRoPpEd OfF hArD

I said multiple times I started a new job. That's more than reasonable slank cover.

Yo, you thought you could get a job? clearly that makes you a wolf.

it's true... wolf of wallstreet and such

[iaafr]

i mean its not just like

the presence/lack of time

its that your only take past the sod1 period was limply sheeping kami's shitty scumread of a single post of mine

but ya sure its your job sorry for scumreading you congrats on the new job

[MacDougall]

i mean its not just like

the presence/lack of time

its that your only take past the sod1 period was limply sheeping kami's shitty scumread of a single post of mine

but ya sure its your job sorry for scumreading you congrats on the new job

i dunno man if i was wolf slanking i'd probably do some shit a little more provocative than limply sheeping the shitty scumread of a town that was way easier for me to scumread given their stance on things

notwithstanding i dont think their scumread of you was actually bad at all, the post they called out was lame for the reasons Kami stated... argue how it wasn't instead of just making statements

[iaafr]

I didn't think ender was wolfy at all early on

can anybody tell me what was wolfy from him at that point? felt like I was reading a diff thread

@iaafr @MacDougall

What are you 2 seeing in Ender that's making him scummy?

What am I, chopped liver?

I remembered him scumreading you not the other way around for some reason.

I can ask you why you find him scummy as well then.

We both scumread each other.

I find Ender scummy because he made an excuse for not following up his entrance post in a threadstate where it is unnatural to feel like you would need such an excuse, as well as trying to parrot my tone/style of engagement and project audacity.

like this was it? for saying he was playing dnd and dropping an rvs vote? just never felt it

i made these two posts to explain why i thought itd have been impressive for alison to have correctly caught ender on page 1 off those posts

idk how im supposed to provide further evidence it was simply a real thought but it was so lol

[iaafr]

ive been passively keeping track of which kami susses i actually agree with and there was a period where i thought her sus of alison, which popped up twice, was possibly the most compelling one

also possibly esooa, whose behavior around me could easily be construed as pockety

but part of what made me want to kill kami over esooa was the impression that kami was just throwing out all sorts of shade at different points and like, her bad susses of me eroded my trust in her

so her flips actually kind of useful to me for that reason but idk if its actually that useful, would depend on her being right (though i know kami has decent accuracy at points, so i just wanna hope so?)

alison/esooa is possibly a world idk

[MacDougall]

I thought ender was wolfy fwiw and I also don't even think he has to be wolfy for alison to make that read, nor does he have to be wolfy for alison to fake a read and catch him, nor a ton of outlying possibilities that gave me zero issue with the thing you called issue with

[MacDougall]

and then to top it off after he got "caught" he started sarcastically calling himself a wolf in lieu of doing basically anything game relevant and he and luckbox both just did the old "ohoho mac thinks were scum again as per usual" thing which is >rand wolf tbh

[MacDougall]

not so much for ender but for luckbox

[iaafr]

it wasnt even "issue" it was "its so hard for me to see ender/kami and i didnt see it sod at all so if alison saw it shes a god"

idk whats fake about that it was just an idle observation fmpov

[iaafr]

yeah sheeping alison onto luckbox is

kind of what i wish i did atp

i just kinda liked some stuff i saw from him and he had the legit 65h workweek alibi for why he didnt scruitinze alison like alison seemed to expect

im also not sure i agree with "you always wolfread me" sentiments as actually >rand w but maybe it is, havent really kept track

[MacDougall]

it wasnt even "issue" it was "its so hard for me to see ender/kami and i didnt see it sod at all so if alison saw it shes a god"

idk whats fake about that it was just an idle observation fmpov

well we're now arguing the validity of this point when we at minimum know for certain at least one town had said thought so i dunno why ur still arguing the merits of the read

[Esooa]

yeah sheeping alison onto luckbox is

kind of what i wish i did atp

i just kinda liked some stuff i saw from him and he had the legit 65h workweek alibi for why he didnt scruitinze alison like alison seemed to expect

im also not sure i agree with "you always wolfread me" sentiments as actually >rand w but maybe it is, havent really kept track

tgbh I'm still 100% fine with the Kami lynch who care she flipped town, I think Luckbox still is town more likely than not and more likely than I would be thinking Kami is town rn unless Luck exactly is a wolf

[Esooa]

also lime's post is super awkward
"lets try this out"

what is there to try out hes not posting your either voting a 0 poster or your not

Usually get a sense if I like being on the wagon or not. It's actually helped out more than I realize.

I don't hate the wagon. The problem is that I'm not sure if I'll like the rest of the wagons.

Yeah there is no sense to get though they won't even be able to respond lmao

naw im flipping v and I wouldnt be surprised if you guys still gave esooa a free pass cause she doesn't even need to explain her reads to get a V read lmao

left the thread for 35 minutes during EoD in which she could die only to come back to post 1 thing that's like really weak "town perspective" wtv

[Esooa]

i isoed alison and honestly her posts r fking sus
[VOTE: alison] aubergine

"consistently good thoughts that are relevant."

I mean thats a lie and you really are just trying to add as many words as possible to seem legit cause relevant is such a weird term to use to describe villagery posts lmao

plus she tries to pass off bullshit like this

[Esooa]

was clearly putting ~no effort to making like actual reads but pseudo tunneled me for low efforting which didn't make sense + was bad

[Esooa]

plus I agree with iaafr that Kami was just throwing shade around to everyone for few reasons for most which I didn't like

[Esooa]

so overall like eh yea I have no problems with the exe and tbh Mac's posts here are just kinda bad cause iaafr is obviously town

[Esooa]

I'm probably going to have to read but Esooa's approach to Kami-- especially if she said she can't read Kami when I definitely remember her literally teaching me how to read Kami-- is weird/wolfy

This is weird because luckbox hasn't outed a town read on Kami atp, could be TMI I suppose

[Esooa]

Right.

Kami's argument process is "You're outed" on repeat I see.

Good talk.

Esooa voting Kami is interesting because Esooa pretty much taught me how to read Kami when I found Kami confusing and enigmatic

but this is exactly how Kami plays, fwiw

The closest to it is this post which is commenting on someone else saying something about Kami, don't really see any indication that luckbox has any read on Kami

[Esooa]

Every time Luckbox plays with me without fail they are obsessed with trying to get a good read on me, especially if they can stan me while I am being suspected. They have said that they try to always get there on my alignment as a matter of pride. This game they haven't really shown that drive even when directly poked about it and given time to get into the game and read my posts. There is no real probing of me or probing people about me. I suspect it is because they have TMI on me and don't really want to solve me.

Kami/Ender/Luckbox/112 two in here probably.

I do not really get strong town vibes from LC but I think if Ender is town he probably does have a good meta read on LC and if he is scum he almost certainly TMIed LC town with that confident meta read. So LC is likely town in all worlds.

I'm basically just now starting to play as I actually have time to read and post and am not exhausted and with a headache...so some patience would be good

I do like this post fwiw.

posting he's now starting to play then not doing anything is meh tbh

[Esooa]

ok what's going to happen tonight?

I'm supposed to go to the casino so probably missing/on phone for EoD....and I apologize for sucking in advance.

I'd vote Mac, LC or 112 (who I have seen literally 0 posts from) and no one else if night were right now

iifar I have as a villager

Alison I do sort of hope is a villager basically for the exact same post that you liked on me.

Esooa seems like she could be a wolf.

This is only my second game with LC and the vote on me just now seems "opportunistic"-- and I also forget everything about him from my first game other than that he went emo and got modkilled-- so I have no clue what to be looking for there.

Ender I've still never seen wolf and have also never even read a Ender wolf post-- so he's due to be a wolf.

Kami I'll guess is a villager.

112 I've seen 0 posts from. Still reading..on page 4 or 5 but I can powerskim to catch up fully.

but I thought for what he had read that the LC read was reasonable, that if Luckbox is a wolf he probably always includes his wolf partner in the 3 in the first post, meaning 112 was a better vote because LC is town, and I believed too Mac was town (still think probably he is), so I didn't want to vote Luckbox really ever because 112 is just straight up better

Luckbox/Ender I guess is possible but it's hard to judge because idk what Luckbox is even aware of, like how likely he thinks it is Ender would be voted. The read on Ender seems weird but he didn't say he'd vote him so I think it's just a weird luckbox post which he has a lot of

the reason I said I'd just call Luckbox town earlier though was cause I think his read on me irt Kami was good, less sure now on that though mostly cause the way he actually handled it seems a bit awkard

[Esooa]

also I don't have a problem with Luckbox's response to pressure because it's true he's been super wolf read and as town recently mostly because he's been lower investment

[Esooa]

LC is town btw.

SUS OPOIST

Why tho?

I have a highly accurate read on him in the past.

Albeit this isn't lock yet, but he has so far played to his town meta hard.

Still think this LC read was way too preemptive

Another thing on Luckbox ftr is I'm confused why he's just calling Kami town rather than having more doubt over it. If I've told him how to read Kami before then sure but if he's not even had a good read on her and hasn't since I told him (even if just by having not played with her much) then I'd think he'd have more doubt

[Esooa]

ender Wiggin is town because he's not trying to act villagery and fake his posts are just things that he thinks

could be out leveling myself on this read, because I think he does have some scummy posts, but town

Alison is town just for having consistently good thoughts that are relevant. I don't care to explain tbh but it's facts

Mac is probably town because of the way he's playing too but I don't care to explain that either

LC can be town sure mostly sheeping, I never care to read him much day 1

luckbox if he's a wolf is bussing someone. And he's currently wolf reading only people I think are town so....

wolves are Kami 112

tbh 112 is a wolf though

voting ender now

This is a funny progression

Super bad post because Ender was obviously the 3rd lowest in my reads and he's trying to act as if the fact I voted him is something that... matters?

This is also literally the only justification he gave in any manner for wolf reading me (his strongest at the time wolf read) in an EoD where I was telling people who to kill and getting my way

[Esooa]

Really quiet eod I see.

This post was also pretty bad and I kinda wanted to CFD him for it, mostly because there's a really really easy conclusion to come to with this post if you're thinking about the game which is to say again that Kami is towny for it and I'm wolfy... the kinda thing anyone trying to solve the game posts 90% of the time

But he's completely fine to just let me have my way

And for what

[Esooa]

Kami is probably town for leaping to the conclusion that it was theater.

Peaceing out for now.

not a read I should need to explain at all but Alisons early reads are all fine

iaafr town, luckbox wolfy but not going to hold onto that at all, Mac towny, Ender wolfy

the way she interacts with all of them is what I'd expect

Super boring read to explain but haha I didn't type enough words for people to be happy so I'll do that now cause why not

[Esooa]

I think Kami is a wolf now.

Ender's re-entrance has been yuck. His strongest read is that I am scum for pushing him for bad reasons on page 1.

read change on Kami makes sense. I thought her read on Kami was fine in that it made sense she had it but that it was too strong and Alison with no reason to in thread thought about it more and switched to Kami wolf rather than town. Basically I thought her Kami read was fine but that it like wasn't actually that town indicative because Kami mostly wasn't holding onto reads in a way that I thought she believed so her being a wolf just throwing bullshit out (which is what she does) was still easily possible and that Alison just read into it too much or wtv

[Esooa]

iaafr and Mac are both town probably.

The Ender point obviously I agree with too

She calls Mac town, continuing an earlier read, which is good too because she easily could have just pushed Mac for what he did earlier, she had the reason to and generally I think the way she would change her reads here as a wolf aren't thinking about and reevaluating the Kami read in ways I thought too but rather wolf reading Mac still because that's like what's available to her, with Mac making the posts she didn't like and said she didn't like then kinda not doing much more

Though that being said I suppose it's possible she didn't want to because a few people disagreed with her post about Mac

[Esooa]

@Luckbox Inc What's your read on me?

decent thing to be thinking though I think she posted the fact that Luckbox wasn't trying to solve her so much too early to matter much tbh

[Esooa]

so I'm voting Ender tomorrow, bye now

[iaafr]

i think i might still pref luckbox and the way ender called that progression "funny" i could see from town but glgl

[Esooa]

i think i might still pref luckbox and the way ender called that progression "funny" i could see from town but glgl

it can come from town but probably never a town who has me as one of their top scum reads and that's the only reason they gave and they did nothing at all about that when I was telling people who to kill EoD

[Esooa]

but maybe it is luckbox tbh true

[Esooa]

luckbox/ender/Wilgy my PoE righ tnow and I'm fine with it

[Alison]

rip

[MacDougall]

so overall like eh yea I have no problems with the exe and tbh Mac's posts here are just kinda bad cause iaafr is obviously town

if u wanna just go on a town killing spree and line me up next be my guest

[iaafr]

so overall like eh yea I have no problems with the exe and tbh Mac's posts here are just kinda bad cause iaafr is obviously town

if u wanna just go on a town killing spree and line me up next be my guest

bruh she has a poe of 3 that doesn't include u

[MacDougall]

well I hadn't read that yet obviously

[MacDougall]

being honest I kinda thought kami was kinda wolfy but given that she was not well we have a great deal of soul searching to search through wilgy is a wolf tho

[MacDougall]

Ender is scum. Serious read.

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

probably true tbh

[MacDougall]

probably we should just kill luckbox ender and wilgy and call it a game tbh

[MacDougall]

I misread Kami last time she was a wolf

so don't this time

how could we have predicted this!

[MacDougall]

I think LC is scummy honestly.

But I suspect his alignment will become clear by EOD1 anyway.

has it tho

[MacDougall]

i think lc towny

probably clearing for iaafr tbh

[MacDougall]

if iaafr town esooa probably town for not taking advantage of me derping up the place

probably find a woof voting for iaafr at some point

[MacDougall]

Honestly I can see that reasoning working out reading Ender's 1 post, at the least the "Making an excuse to not be in the game after dropping a decent sized scumread" portion.

my eyes are narrowing

[MacDougall]

lmaooooo Alison what I had to deal with was much more

Would you like to be given a reaction test?

my eyes unnarrowed

[MacDougall]

I think kami making those reads and then looking for an ender read to try to find a villager and instead finding ender a wolf is town if that's what actually happened there

my god this post is so townie look at it