Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

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bronana
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:18 pm A) who’s the other cop claim besides carot and Mac??

B) wilgy wasn’t a redirector like he claimed lol
a- moth is role cop

b - but you and bronana are? i mean bronana is like a bus driver, but still.
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:18 pm A) who’s the other cop claim besides carot and Mac??

B) wilgy wasn’t a redirector like he claimed lol
a- moth is role cop

b - but you and bronana are? i mean bronana is like a bus driver, but still.
A-not the same thing

B-not relevant to Mac’s cop check claims
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:18 pm A) who’s the other cop claim besides carot and Mac??

B) wilgy wasn’t a redirector like he claimed lol
a- moth is role cop

b - but you and bronana are? i mean bronana is like a bus driver, but still.
outed wolf, not me

I've claimed nothing about my role
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:15 pm i feel good calling the following people town: bronana, carot, lissa, moth, nanook, nutella

i feel cayvie had a super strong start but just disappeared for me enough to want to put her in my poe again

i feel my poe is: macdougall, long con, motobot, outed wolf, cayvie

i've had glimpses of town from both cayvie and OW i think, but not enough to move them into my trusted pile. macdougall could very well be the third cop town has, but i'm still feeling uneasy about the sloonei check and marcher eod shit and how he claimed, and then the whole strongarm thing and getting a result with wilgy's name literally in a game with redirects. too many ????? for me.
seems good to me

motobot have a history of bussing to this extent?
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:23 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:18 pm A) who’s the other cop claim besides carot and Mac??

B) wilgy wasn’t a redirector like he claimed lol
a- moth is role cop

b - but you and bronana are? i mean bronana is like a bus driver, but still.
A-not the same thing

B-not relevant to Mac’s cop check claims
of course it's not the same thing, but have you ever played a game with TWO traditional alignment cops? cos i sure as fuck haven't lol. having two variations of cops makes more sense to me. role cop + alignment cop.

b - it is relevant if he's lying about being a cop...
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:28 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:23 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:18 pm A) who’s the other cop claim besides carot and Mac??

B) wilgy wasn’t a redirector like he claimed lol
a- moth is role cop

b - but you and bronana are? i mean bronana is like a bus driver, but still.
A-not the same thing

B-not relevant to Mac’s cop check claims
of course it's not the same thing, but have you ever played a game with TWO traditional alignment cops? cos i sure as fuck haven't lol. having two variations of cops makes more sense to me. role cop + alignment cop.

b - it is relevant if he's lying about being a cop...
A - I don’t think it’s unreasonable in this specific game with the glory mechanic (also I think moth is scummy)

B - it isn’t? The redirectors are irrelevant to his claimed checks, they say nothing about his claim imo
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets
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a- hmmm fair enough. but i think mac is scummier. i would go on a whim and say he could be the godfather, who thinks claiming the second alignment cop takes him to end game if he townchecks some people and busses a couple of people. that's where my head is at.

b- it's the fact his role pm came back "drwilgy is scum". in a game with redirectors, that defeats the purpose of having them in the game, no? so if he was redirected, it would come back as "nanook is town"? i....do not believe that.
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Ooh I just remembered something I want to look into
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets
Redirects that are not relevant to his checks

Why wouldn’t he get his targets name back when the redirects don’t effect his check targets
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:33 pm Ooh I just remembered something I want to look into
huh, it looks like nobody has ever ended a day with a vote on either nanook or outed wolf?

so there goes the theory about moth giving one of his teammates a rolecheck on one of them for wilgy to fake

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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets
Redirects that are not relevant to his checks

Why wouldn’t he get his targets name back when the redirects don’t effect his check targets
because uniformity. if he gets back a redirected result, will it just say "your target is green"?
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets
Redirects that are not relevant to his checks

Why wouldn’t he get his targets name back when the redirects don’t effect his check targets
because uniformity. if he gets back a redirected result, will it just say "your target is green"?
I don’t think it’s meaningful 🤷‍♀️
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets
Redirects that are not relevant to his checks

Why wouldn’t he get his targets name back when the redirects don’t effect his check targets
dunya is just arguing that in a game with redirects you wouldn't get a name back as part of your result regardless. hence she thinks mac could be lying about that
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:33 pm Ooh I just remembered something I want to look into
huh, it looks like nobody has ever ended a day with a vote on either nanook or outed wolf?

so there goes the theory about moth giving one of his teammates a rolecheck on one of them for wilgy to fake

ah well it was a cool idea
Or he’s lying about how his role works 🤷‍♀️
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:37 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:33 pm Ooh I just remembered something I want to look into
huh, it looks like nobody has ever ended a day with a vote on either nanook or outed wolf?

so there goes the theory about moth giving one of his teammates a rolecheck on one of them for wilgy to fake

ah well it was a cool idea
Or he’s lying about how his role works 🤷‍♀️
Could be
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:31 pm Her point is that the game has redirects and he claimed he got his target's name back. Not about the specific targets
Redirects that are not relevant to his checks

Why wouldn’t he get his targets name back when the redirects don’t effect his check targets
dunya is just arguing that in a game with redirects you wouldn't get a name back as part of your result regardless. hence she thinks mac could be lying about that
Yeh I got it eventually lol

I just disagree it’s meaningful
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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Also like if Mac is mafia that’s gonna claim reds on his partners I say we let him lolol
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:32 pm in a game with redirectors, that defeats the purpose of having them in the game, no?
there have been like, 3 different variations of town doctor, a watcher, a tracker, nutella's role, wilgy's role

those all seem well worth redirecting? regardless of whether or not it specifies the target's name
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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I want to hear more from carot
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Yes!!!!!!! The whole game I was right! DrWilgy was bad! :slick:
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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Hmmm...now who should I pick next? :ponder:
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:39 pm Also like if Mac is mafia that’s gonna claim reds on his partners I say we let him lolol
if he's a wolf, I think the play was to redcheck wilgy for cred (was gonna die anyway), then claim a red on a villager currently outside of the POE to mislim

I know people have said the sloonei kill makes sense, but I thought it was weird man. My gut reaction to it was that it was set up deliberately to give mac's claim cred and avoid dealing with "why did x die but not y," because why would you ever kill the peek over TWO claimed cops there? I also still think Mac was pretty wolfy prior to d4, and he's barely posted at all outside of his claim and saying his checks. I'm still ??? on carot. I hate this shit lol

Sloonei was also possibly THE most prominent pusher of outed wolf, btw. :ponder:
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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motobot wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:42 pm Hmmm...now who should I pick next? :ponder:
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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Naw mac is locked town rn
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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bronana wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:39 pm Also like if Mac is mafia that’s gonna claim reds on his partners I say we let him lolol
if he's a wolf, I think the play was to redcheck wilgy for cred (was gonna die anyway), then claim a red on a villager currently outside of the POE to mislim

I know people have said the sloonei kill makes sense, but I thought it was weird man. My gut reaction to it was that it was set up deliberately to give mac's claim cred and avoid dealing with "why did x die but not y," because why would you ever kill the peek over TWO claimed cops there? I also still think Mac was pretty wolfy prior to d4, and he's barely posted at all outside of his claim and saying his checks. I'm still ??? on carot. I hate this shit lol

Sloonei was also possibly THE most prominent pusher of outed wolf, btw. :ponder:
yeah this all makes sense tbh

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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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bronana wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:46 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:39 pm Also like if Mac is mafia that’s gonna claim reds on his partners I say we let him lolol
if he's a wolf, I think the play was to redcheck wilgy for cred (was gonna die anyway), then claim a red on a villager currently outside of the POE to mislim

I know people have said the sloonei kill makes sense, but I thought it was weird man. My gut reaction to it was that it was set up deliberately to give mac's claim cred and avoid dealing with "why did x die but not y," because why would you ever kill the peek over TWO claimed cops there? I also still think Mac was pretty wolfy prior to d4, and he's barely posted at all outside of his claim and saying his checks. I'm still ??? on carot. I hate this shit lol

Sloonei was also possibly THE most prominent pusher of outed wolf, btw. :ponder:
wow yes, yes to all of this. how can nutella be scumreading this beauty? :noble:
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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i know one of mac and carot is definitely town because of marcher's role:

"You are a meddlesome one. You will learn your target’s stats and inventory each Night. In addition, your target will be shown to be guilty if alignment checked that same Night."

i lean carot.
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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Guys c’mon we just did this, night is not the time to speculate on who is and isn’t real

Right now Mac and carot are both locked town and no other opinion is worth airing until the day starts
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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sorry, i might die, so i do all my speculating at night. :p
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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I see very few worlds you’re the NK in
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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i got anointed btw but it barely did shit to me so i still think LC is lying about having all those sols and inventory. :p
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:57 pm I see very few worlds you’re the NK in
rude... :doh:
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:57 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:57 pm I see very few worlds you’re the NK in
rude... :doh:
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm Guys c’mon we just did this, night is not the time to speculate on who is and isn’t real

Right now Mac and carot are both locked town and no other opinion is worth airing until the day starts
...didnt you start this lol
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I've been fine on glory and sols tbh :shrug2:
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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Like obv I lost some when Sloonei died but still had enough money to buy back up
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:59 pm I've been fine on glory and sols tbh :shrug2:
you had 15 sols to spare on stealing someone's power plus other cool trinkets?

doesn't everyone just get +1-+2-+3 every phase?
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:00 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:59 pm I've been fine on glory and sols tbh :shrug2:
you had 15 sols to spare on stealing someone's power plus other cool trinkets?

doesn't everyone just get +1-+2-+3 every phase?
I never did that? what
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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But like yeah my trium was all alive until last night so I racked up a decent amount
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:01 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:00 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:59 pm I've been fine on glory and sols tbh :shrug2:
you had 15 sols to spare on stealing someone's power plus other cool trinkets?

doesn't everyone just get +1-+2-+3 every phase?
I never did that? what
i know, but LC did. where did he get that many sols from :meany:
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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he's in the same trium as me so it checks out he could have had that much

this isn't hard to do the math on if you want to check, it's basically public info lol
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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nutella and sloonei, two highest posters in the game, neither died until night 4 when sloonei had been peeked. both in a triumvirate with long con. coincidence???

bronana and lissa, villagy and yeeting wolves, neither died, both in a triumvirate with outed wolf. coincidence???
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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bronana wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:09 pm nutella and sloonei, two highest posters in the game, neither died until night 4 when sloonei had been peeked. both in a triumvirate with long con. coincidence???

bronana and lissa, villagy and yeeting wolves, neither died, both in a triumvirate with outed wolf. coincidence???
why wouldn't me and nanook be dying tho. if we're both town. are our reads just that shit or sthg
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:13 pm
bronana wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:09 pm nutella and sloonei, two highest posters in the game, neither died until night 4 when sloonei had been peeked. both in a triumvirate with long con. coincidence???

bronana and lissa, villagy and yeeting wolves, neither died, both in a triumvirate with outed wolf. coincidence???
why wouldn't me and nanook be dying tho. if we're both town. are our reads just that shit or sthg
nanook was kinda low-impact for a lot of the game

you were hanging around as a possible suspect for a good number of people iirc
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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Wolves probably also been wary about villagers more likely to purchase the self-protection talisman.

KZA, Sloonei, neither expected to die I'd guess, fairly safe kills that were unlikely to fail or be tampered with.

ted wasn't able to buy anything that would have saved him, and was coming in hot for Marcher + Wilgy (he did also mention OW and moth as suspects).

Also possible they role-copped some villagers and determined they needed to prioritize killing more dangerous roles.
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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bronana wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm Guys c’mon we just did this, night is not the time to speculate on who is and isn’t real

Right now Mac and carot are both locked town and no other opinion is worth airing until the day starts
...didnt you start this lol
I’ve only given the company line that Mac is town!
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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bronana wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:27 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:15 pm i feel good calling the following people town: bronana, carot, lissa, moth, nanook, nutella

i feel cayvie had a super strong start but just disappeared for me enough to want to put her in my poe again

i feel my poe is: macdougall, long con, motobot, outed wolf, cayvie

i've had glimpses of town from both cayvie and OW i think, but not enough to move them into my trusted pile. macdougall could very well be the third cop town has, but i'm still feeling uneasy about the sloonei check and marcher eod shit and how he claimed, and then the whole strongarm thing and getting a result with wilgy's name literally in a game with redirects. too many ????? for me.
seems good to me

motobot have a history of bussing to this extent?
motobot doesn't really have a history to speak of.
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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here's a town game for [mention]motobot[/mention]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... sf=msgonly
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Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 5]

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[mention]motobot[/mention] have you been spending sols and doing stuff at night? there were 2 whole nights you didn't post (night 1 and night 2), do you have any actions you have done?
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